Author Topic: Mondeo Klub for Bois - MK3 Help (Read 14495 times)

Incursus · « **Reply #150 on:** November 07, 2011, 05:09:48 pm »

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: Andy
cruise i take it with a Ghia model?

Cruise Control is on all models. As is heated front screen and A/C

No backlight on my steering wheel switches, yours the same?

Bought service items today oil, fuel, and air filter, injector cleaner and engine flush for £26.
Gotta love Car Spares in Stony

art b · « **Reply #151 on:** November 07, 2011, 05:22:40 pm »

Quoting: Incursus

engine flush

not always a good idea,

and possibly unnecessary with modern oils that have detergents in,

Incursus · « **Reply #152 on:** November 07, 2011, 05:30:52 pm »

HardRockCamaro · « **Reply #153 on:** November 07, 2011, 07:32:22 pm »

Quoting: Roadkill

I'd probably suggest (GASP !!) that it's the most reliable car in the combined MKB fleet - and it's a Mundano !!

Ford sell loads of them (and Focii and Festers) for good reason...

The only fly in the ointment is higher depreciation vs say a Golf due ot the fact that they do indeed sell so many...

I stand by my opinion that Ford make some of the most reliable cars for sale in the UK, and without being dull to drive like their Japanese equivalents.

F Body · « **Reply #154 on:** November 07, 2011, 08:21:32 pm »

Quoting: HardRockCamaro

Ford sell loads of them (and Focii and Festers) for good reason...

Indeed the Fester was in 1st place with 103,013 sales, whilst the Fockus was in 3rd place with 77,804

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/Industry-News/UK-2010-car-sales-analysis-winners-and-losers/

However the Moondayo only had 29,790 sales,compared to the BMW 3 Series with sales of 42.020

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/272134/new_mondeo_spied.html

Ford as a company was in 15th place overall

HardRockCamaro · « **Reply #155 on:** November 07, 2011, 08:43:03 pm »

15 overall for what?

In that table of 2010 sales they look to be first with 280k vehicles sold?

That article is using the stats to be a bit anti American I notice, saying that Corvette sales a re down whopping 94%. Well, they sold 2, so presumably the previous year they sold 4. So to look at it another way, they only sold 2 cars less than the previous year which probably puts them way u the rankings, lol!

But I do note that Jeep sales are pretty awful the past 2 or 3 years, at just over 2k a year compared to the 8.5k they once enjoyed. I put this down to the government hatred of 4x4s via tax and fuel costs, plus Jeep UK being totally inept and greedy with their parts prices. The fact that in the US Jeep are setting sales records and production capacity is now the problem tell me Jeep UK need to pull their finger out.

Wrangler sales are booming over there and the new Grand Cherokee is getting rave reviews. I managed to persuade a friend to consider one and when he went to look at it the Merc dealer had pulled it apart to fix their broken ML and tried to talk him into one of those as they were better off-road.

But seriously what hope does the brand have with these conditions?

Roadkill · « **Reply #156 on:** November 07, 2011, 10:04:20 pm »

Quoting: Incursus

No backlight on my steering wheel switches, yours the same?

Yep - easy to remember, though.

Incursus · « **Reply #157 on:** November 08, 2011, 03:09:18 pm »

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: Incursus
No backlight on my steering wheel switches, yours the same?

Yep - easy to remember, though.

Fair enough, at least they're not broken.

Speaking of broken I thought my intermittent wipers were knackered....until I realised it has automatic wipers

philoldsmobile · « **Reply #158 on:** November 08, 2011, 06:44:57 pm »

Quoting: Roadkill

I'd probably suggest (GASP !!) that it's the most reliable car in the combined MKB fleet - and it's a Mundano !!

Hmmmmm........I'd suggest its actually the 166..

25,000 miles / 4 years with no mechanical defects past service items. its very hard to ignore the fact its been a VERY reliable car.

Given the amount of grief and jokes I got for buying it, i feel its my duty to point that out....

philoldsmobile · « **Reply #159 on:** November 08, 2011, 06:54:30 pm »

Quoting: F Body

Ford as a company was in 15th place overall

The current model Ka being the worst car available in the UK today wont help them, but both ford and Vauxhall have taken a major battering recently in the reliability ratings - they just cant seem to get consistency with reliability.

meanwhile fiat group market share is growing very rapidly, and no surprise, if you want granite like build, Germany or Japan are miles out in front.

art b · « **Reply #160 on:** November 08, 2011, 08:54:07 pm »

Quoting: philoldsmobile

Hmmmmm........I'd suggest its actually the 166..

25,000 miles / 4 years with no mechanical defects past service items. its very hard to ignore the fact its been a VERY reliable car.

hardly enough use to qualify...

HardRockCamaro · « **Reply #161 on:** November 08, 2011, 09:52:20 pm »

The current model KA is a Fiat 500 which is the problem.

And German cars are not reliable, however ironically a Skoda is likely to be more reliable than an Audi even if theoretically the same platform, at least in the experience of people I know who have tried several VAG group cars...

Japanese reliability is not what it once was, although probably still higher overall than European brands, they have slipped as they have expanded rapidly and brought new product to market quickly.

I'm not smug as Jeeps aren't what they once were either, the demise of the 4.0 was a real shame, the v6's that replaced it were not so good. The Merc sourced diesels all have known problems (injectors on the smaller ones, oil leaks on the larger ones), the electrics in Grand Cherokees were Merc sourced and suffered just like the Mercs with electrical reliability, the insulation goes brittle with heat and fails. Now with Fiat taking over it's not going to get better imho.

Basically the XJ Cherokee and the TJ Wrangler were the best they ever made, it went downhill from there...

As for the 166, 2 upper arms and possibly even a thermostat do not qualify as service items... And the clutch life was on the low side imho...

But even so, it has been better than I expected...

Roadkill · « **Reply #162 on:** November 09, 2011, 12:01:55 pm »

Quoting: philoldsmobile

Hmmmmm........I'd suggest its actually the 166..

Not to point out the (accidental, I'm sure) omissions on your list but didn't you replace a failed engine mount, too ?

That seems pretty poor to me for such a low mileage car (or is that a service item, too ?)

And there were other parts - we had bits arriving on a regular basis. You even listed them as you brought them but I forget, now . . . .

Quoting: art b

hardly enough use to qualify...

Exactly.

That's more "toy" mileage, rather than actual use.

Quoting: philoldsmobile

Given the amount of grief and jokes I got for buying it, i feel its my duty to point that out....

I think that stemed from the fact that you brought a SECOND one after the first failed so epically.

I'm sure if you'd have brought a second Mustang (judging by the reliability Chris has had) that would've been fine also. Not that I'm a fan of the Mustang - Just feel it's my duty to point out the obvious.

Andy · « **Reply #163 on:** November 09, 2011, 12:34:59 pm »

Quoting: philoldsmobile

25,000 miles

That was how many miles my blue one did a year! Still didn't have anything fail on it till it hit 180k miles. Then like a badly made cuddly bear with sharp edges, once the stitching started coming apart, the whole thing died.

Roadkill · « **Reply #164 on:** November 09, 2011, 12:49:44 pm »

Mine took a step closer to 190,000 today.

Been taking it fairly easy on the mleage recently as I need her to get through the winter. Might even have to put front tyres on her soon.

Bloody money pit.

I plan to sell her at 200,000 miles then treat myself to something a little less . . . . .

Quoting: philoldsmobile

completely average and uninteresting...

. . . . Like a 300C

F Body · « **Reply #165 on:** November 09, 2011, 07:13:09 pm »

Quoting: Roadkill

then treat myself to something a little less . . . . .
Quoting: philoldsmobile
completely average and uninteresting...

. . . . Like a 300C

Great looking car

I've been looking for one for a while, but there isn't anything half decent for under £7k

HardRockCamaro · « **Reply #166 on:** November 09, 2011, 08:00:55 pm »

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: philoldsmobile
Given the amount of grief and jokes I got for buying it, i feel its my duty to point that out....

I think that stemed from the fact that you brought a SECOND one after the first failed so epically.

I'm sure if you'd have brought a second Mustang (judging by the reliability Chris has had) that would've been fine also. Not that I'm a fan of the Mustang - Just feel it's my duty to point out the obvious.

philoldsmobile · « **Reply #167 on:** November 10, 2011, 12:23:49 am »

Quoting: Roadkill

Exactly.

That's more "toy" mileage, rather than actual use.

25,000 is more miles than you've done in the mondeo......

Incursus · « **Reply #168 on:** November 11, 2011, 11:51:05 am »

Any one need a pre 03 mk3 Haynes manual? I bought it by mistake

Cunning Plan · « **Reply #169 on:** November 11, 2011, 03:00:46 pm »

Quoting: philoldsmobile

25,000 is more miles than you've done in the mondeo......

I did 80k in my MK2 Mondeo in 4 years..

From what I can remember needed fixing to keep it on the road:

Front coil spring
Oil pressure switch
Front wishbone bushes on one side
Starter Motor
Welding on both rear arch seals near seat-belt mountings

Other items broken but not replaced:

Driver's window (wiring I think, still worked, just had to move the wiring about)
Idle hunting (occasional hunting on idle - crank-speed sensor I think)
Boot unlock button (had to use the keys to open)
Remote Central locking (central locking still worked)
CV Joint clunking at low-speed turning (could have been tie-rod ball-joint)

Then service items:
Countless oil changes, plugs, discs pads etc.

Fieldy · « **Reply #170 on:** November 11, 2011, 03:09:24 pm »

I've just ordered a fuel filter and air filter for £10, my neighbour is going to service mine and replace the oil he gets for free from work... That will tie her over for another 19 or so months! Surprised mine lasted so long with no issues without any care....

Roadkill · « **Reply #171 on:** November 11, 2011, 04:49:26 pm »

Quoting: philoldsmobile

25,000 is more miles than you've done in the mondeo......

O.K.

I know maths isn't a strong point of yours, clearly but -

25,000 miles in 4 years equals 6,250 (roughly) miles per year.

19,000 miles in 8 months equals (roughly) 28,500 miles per year.

28,500 is FOUR AND A HALF TIMES 6,250.

So.

If, over the next 4 years, instead of achieving 25,000 miles in your Alfa, aim for 114,000 miles.

My point being, as everyone else appeared to understand, is that your Alfa clocks what I referred to a "Toy" mileage. The Mondeo's owned within the MKB are workhorses and treated as such and yet they still perform admirably.

Do you really believe your Alfa will reach 190,000 miles with just """"""servicing"""""" costs ?

art b · « **Reply #172 on:** November 11, 2011, 05:40:48 pm »

and

HardRockCamaro · « **Reply #173 on:** November 11, 2011, 06:10:54 pm »

My Focus had 93,000 on it when I sold it at 5 years old.
In that time it had needed only 1 rear wheel bearing and a front cv joint (I consider this to be caused by the accident I had and hit a kerb hard with that wheel).

Beyond that it was literally oil changes, 1 set of brake pads and a set of tyres.

Andy · « **Reply #174 on:** November 11, 2011, 06:41:18 pm »

Quoting: Roadkill

O.K.

I know maths isn't a strong point of yours, clearly but -

25,000 miles in 4 years equals 6,250 (roughly) miles per year.

19,000 miles in 8 months equals (roughly) 28,500 miles per year.

28,500 is FOUR AND A HALF TIMES 6,250.

So.

If, over the next 4 years, instead of achieving 25,000 miles in your Alfa, aim for 114,000 miles.

My point being, as everyone else appeared to understand, is that your Alfa clocks what I referred to a "Toy" mileage. The Mondeo's owned within the MKB are workhorses and treated as such and yet they still perform admirably.

Do you really believe your Alfa will reach 190,000 miles with just """"""servicing"""""" costs ?

Phil jus' got served!