Author Topic: pc help (Read 2600 times)

art b · « **on:** December 31, 2009, 07:41:18 pm »

im having a bit of greif with the sons pc, its been standing for a while[prob not relevant]

when its switched on the psu fan runs, and the cooling fan on the chips runs, a green led on the mother board stays alight [see pic] BUT then the whole thing shuts down,....

the hard drive can be heard to spin up to speed,[ive held it to my ear]
then there is a small click within it which may be causing the pc to stop[may not be ]
the whole thing only runs for around 25 seconds...

could it be hard drive failure,
could the drive be fitted to another machine....? it has a few hundred songs and pics on it.

EDGE · « **Reply #1 on:** December 31, 2009, 08:53:32 pm »

does the bios post beep ?

Cunning Plan · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:13:19 pm »

Quoting: art b

could the drive be fitted to another machine....? it has a few hundred songs and pics on it

Yep, however, the machine is quite old and has a IDE harddrive judging by the cable attached to it which means it will only be read either by an equally old machine OR a modern rig (which runs SATA) with a good motherboard - the main drive will be SATA but the good motherboard will have an IDE connection where you can just plug in the drive. It will just appear as a new harddisk under 'My Computer'.

Doing this will elimnate the harddrive from the equation..

It may be faulty memory, try taking out one stick after the other (looks like all four slots are used). - Another thing eliminated..

Next could be the CPU fan has come loose - when you first turn on your rig, any rig, you will hear a burst of fan speed for 2 seconds, then it will return to normal running - usually right around the time of the 'check beep'. This is actually the system purposly sending informaiton to the CPU to heat it up to check if the fan is opertating normally. If the fan is not connected properly (even if one prong is out) the CPU will over heat and the Motherboard will shut it down to prevent damage. Check and elimanate.

Next could be a faulty motherboard - just buy a new rig and plug the old harddisk in as a second harddisk to access as extra storage and to recover old useful ~~porn~~ files.

Couple of things there for you..

art b · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:21:43 pm »

right, i dont hear the bios beep.....

will pull the memory sticks,
i disconnected the hd and it still switches off,
its a 2006 machine,

i have another pc which may be similar,around 2008, will see if there is anywhere to connect the hd from this machine,

Cunning Plan · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:26:10 pm »

Quoting: art b

right, i dont hear the bios beep.....

The BIOS beep is when it reaches the memory isn't it Edge?

So looks like the check isn't getting to the memory at all - I would put money on CPU (either fecked or fan not secured properly / inoperable) or Motherboard now..

art b · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:41:14 pm »

had a peek, the cpu fan runs and is wired to a plug on the m/board

Cunning Plan · « **Reply #6 on:** December 31, 2009, 10:00:59 pm »

Quoting: art b

had a peek, the cpu fan runs and is wired to a plug on the m/board

Is it securely connected ontop of the CPU? Try to wriggle it about - if it moves it's no good..

art b · « **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2009, 10:26:45 pm »

pulled the ram, and the pc gives 3 beeps on start up..... i assume to indicate its missing,

the fan looks ok,
the chip "was" glued to the ali heatsink but isnt now,
it all clamps together quite well.....

ya can see the clamps in the pic...

Cunning Plan · « **Reply #8 on:** December 31, 2009, 10:37:43 pm »

Quoting: art b

pulled the ram, and the pc gives 3 beeps on start up..... i assume to indicate its missing,

So the checksum is at ram and has already gone through CPU..

Quoting: art b

the chip "was" glued to the ali heatsink but isnt now,

That glue was heat-paste which has probably dryed..

Guess it's down to mobo...

Cunning Plan · « **Reply #9 on:** December 31, 2009, 10:38:22 pm »

Cheap good rigs on www.ebuyer.com/

:computer:

ianjpage · « **Reply #10 on:** January 01, 2010, 01:08:11 am »

ok if no bios beeps with memory in indicates EITHER a motherboard problem or a grphaics card problem IF its an adapter card (which it doesn't look like it is...) so i'd go for some form of mobo problem,...

art b · « **Reply #11 on:** January 01, 2010, 05:14:10 pm »

ah ha the plot thickens,
having recovered from the new year drinks,

i fired the pc up and it ran a treat......

maybe taking apart the fan cpu and ram has encouraged a connection to play ball,

so far so good thanx so far guys

will keep ya posted on how it goes

Cunning Plan · « **Reply #12 on:** January 01, 2010, 05:38:50 pm »

art b · « **Reply #13 on:** January 01, 2010, 06:02:11 pm »

art b · « **Reply #14 on:** January 03, 2010, 02:16:20 pm »

update fyi..

the pc is running fine banged a few up dates on it,

it dosn't have a beep when booting up,
but it does have the 2 speed fan thing now it running.
gonna give it a clean out with an airline around the fans heatsink and psu as its clogged with dust,
and save all the porn to another machine.....

Cunning Plan · « **Reply #15 on:** January 03, 2010, 02:31:08 pm »

Quoting: art b

gonna give it a clean out with an airline around the fans heatsink and psu as its clogged with dust,

Good call, accumulation of dust will negate the benefits of heat sinks..

Quoting: art b

and save all the porn to another machine.....

The most important data. I would do a 2nd back up just incase too..

art b · « **Reply #16 on:** January 05, 2010, 09:27:45 pm »

as the weather has been a bit nippley outside ,

we have decided to have a bit of a computer clean and rebuild session,

Cunning Plan · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2010, 09:46:47 pm »

Best one there? Macbook

art b · « **Reply #18 on:** January 05, 2010, 11:20:43 pm »

yep along with the mac mini....

Cunning Plan · « **Reply #19 on:** January 06, 2010, 07:27:18 am »

Although, how BIG is your dock???

(NO, before anyone edits that, I said Dock DDDDock.. With a D...

)

art b · « **Reply #20 on:** January 06, 2010, 11:23:12 am »

MY DICK.....!!!!

what are you some sort of peepin tom......

Andy · « **Reply #21 on:** January 06, 2010, 11:49:49 am »

Have mine set to small icons on the left hand side, just whack up the hover magnification.

Cunning Plan · « **Reply #22 on:** January 06, 2010, 12:34:34 pm »

Quoting: art b

MY DICK.....!!!!
what are you some sort of peepin tom.....

Yes, now get it out..

Quoting: Andy

Have mine set to small icons on the left hand side, just whack up the hover magnification.

Fieldy · « **Reply #23 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:09:06 pm »

Quoting: Andy

Have mine set to small icons on the left hand side, just whack up the hover magnification.

yep, only mine are hidden too

HardRockCamaro · « **Reply #24 on:** January 07, 2010, 06:35:39 pm »

Quoting: art b

yep along with the mac mini....

The mini is so small I can't see it, LOL!