Quoting: Titsy
BTW, to explain why it is now Vicky's; she proclaimed that if I broke anything else on the car (not that I did, I did it to itself...) then she was going to confiscate it from me
I think I might let you off this once. I do agree that this, probably, wasn't your fault.
Quoting: Amey
I think I might let you off this once. I do agree that this, probably, wasn't your fault.
You just don't want to claim a car you can't drive...... I bet your waiting till it's in better health so you can claim a runner.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
You just don't want to claim a car you can't drive...... I bet your waiting till it's in better health so you can claim a runner....
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/oops.gif) - got found out (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
try checking the fluid (as steve sugested)
Cool, did I change my name???(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: nick69
Cool, did I change my name???
Everyone gets a nickname here, Mate. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: Big Mouse
Without wishing to seem too mercenary, I , uh hum, have a spare 4L60e going begging in my store having suffered from exactly the same trauma as yours.
Had Penn Autos fit new overrun clutch plates, overhaul kit, bush kit, 2/4th kevlar bands plus modified the servo and 3/4 clutch kit to make it a bit tougher - hasn't been used since the rebuild.
Yeah i was supposed to ask you about that if you were at the meet on sunday
Quoting: Big Mouse
have a spare 4L60e going begging in my store
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
How much would you want to sting me for Ray?
Quoting: 55starchief
Yeah i was supposed to ask you about that if you were at the meet on sunday
Didn't know there was a meet on Sunday?
The box is sitting in the store, if you want a look at it let me know
Quoting: Big Mouse
Didn't know there was a meet on Sunday?
Every first Sunday, Mate, from 3 (ish) - All year round. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Big Mouse
Didn't know there was a meet on Sunday?
Every 1st Sunday of the month.
Looks like Graeme's right, we do need an email reminder being sent out.
Quoting: Big Mouse
The box is sitting in the store, if you want a look at it let me know
Is it ready to use?
Quoting: Jamieg285
Looks like Graeme's right
im always right (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
The place that are quoting my Camaro's T5 are on 01604 755230.
£270+VAT
Quoting: 55starchief
ok have been calling around for prices
What are the prices for? A rebuild?
Quoting: Titsy
What are the prices for? A rebuild?
only exchange mate, no rebuilds
Quoting: Titsy
So I turn up with my box and £270 +VAT in cash, and they give me another box that has been recon'd?!?
no that was for my specific box
Quoting: Titsy
ah.... crossed wires.....
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Unfortunately being an Auto yours would be dearer then £270 . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
I'd recommend chatting to Ray . . .
Quoting: Roadkill
I'd recommend chatting to Ray . . .
As per my previous post, Give me a price Ray.....
Quoting: Titsy
As per my previous post, Give me a price Ray.....
[jacknicholsonmodeon]Price? You can't handle the price[jacknicholsonmnodeoff]
I have the rebuild invoice in my sweaty paw - cost £883.59 plus VAT to be rebuilt to a spec that could handle the extra bit of grunt that my LS1 dealt hence the kevlar bands, upgraded servo etc.
But.
That included taking the torque converter apart and cleaning it so say £800 plus VAT.
Rebuilt, ready to install - to you £940 - its in Custom Car and American Classic for £995
... and you get to keep your old box!
Quoting: Big Mouse
[jacknicholsonmodeon]Price? You can't handle the price[jacknicholsonmnodeoff]
Your not far wrong there.....
Thanks for letting me know Ray, but I really can't afford it.....
£940 would be almost a 1/4 of what I paid for the car.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
£940 would be almost a 1/4 of what I paid for the car....
Personally, I think for what you're getting thats a very good price, I had to pay £922 for a rebuild on my 700R4 (a simpler box) and that was cheap, other places quoted £1500! and theoretically that would have been minced by Ray's LS1 in about 3 seconds.
£922 was almost 1/3 of what I paid for my car, and about 1/2 what I SHOULD have paid for it back then.
You will Never ever destroy that box
Quoting: FUBAR
Personally, I think for what you're getting thats a very good price, I had to pay £922 for a rebuild on my 700R4 (a simpler box) and that was cheap, other places quoted £1500! and theoretically that would have been minced by Ray's LS1 in about 3 seconds.
£922 was almost 1/3 of what I paid for my car, and about 1/2 what I SHOULD have paid for it back then.
You will Never ever destroy that box
Indeed, my TH350 Box was $1200 and i had to ship it across as well so it does seem a very good price mate.
And as for rebuilds prices can be crazy try £2k+ for my original trans
Quoting: Titsy
Thanks for letting me know Ray, but I really can't afford it.....
£940 would be almost a 1/4 of what I paid for the car....
No problem, it all comes down to money in the end but its there if you change your mind.
Thought. I gave Martyn Quigley the GM workshop manual that covered the 4L60e plus a couple of other contemporary boxes when he bought the Camaro workshop manuals from me.
These manuals aren't like the Haynes type manual; these are original GM workshop manuals that give a complete breakdown right down to every indiviual part then build it all up again. If he's still got it, and will lend it to you, you could try rebuilding it yourself but be warned - its a tricky one and easy to get wrong without the right tools!!
Quoting: Big Mouse
I gave Martyn Quigley the GM workshop manual that covered the 4L60e , If he's still got it, and will lend it to you, you could try rebuilding it yourself but be warned - its a tricky one and easy to get wrong without the right tools!!
Yep still got it and when mine wouldn't stop leaking I looked at doing a rebuild ?
After reading the book - NO WAY (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
If you want to borrow it let me know ?
Quoting: Titsy
Option 2, what's the deal with the 6 speed manual at the barn?
Heard its already bagged by someone, but its been sitting there for a long time now (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
Option 2, what's the deal with the 6 speed manual at the barn?
Yup already alocated to ashley who owned the car originaly. If you were going manual your gonna need a lot of other parts. That 6 speed box is worth £1k easily as they are close too £2k new over here
Quoting: Roadkill
Could Andy source a Tranny cheaper and send it with Chris' MoPar lump in a month or so ?
I think it would work out abou the same price as rays one mate
Quoting: Titsy
Option 3 then..... Let it rot on my driveway untill I can afford to fix it....
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Quoting: HardRockCamaro
The sad fact is, a 4 speed auto box in need of a rebuild is going to cost £900 - £1,200 (fitted). Hence why mine has remained sick (but working well enough to kepe using the car) the last 2 years.
yup, thats pretty much the bottom line..
if you went with an unknown used box, whats to say it wouldn't suffer the same problem the day after fitting?
budget £1000 minimum for a decent, dependable box, wherever it comes from.
Quoting: Titsy
RAY,
Is the trans you have a 4L60e, or did they fit a different one with the LS1???
As already confirmed by others, yes it is.
Quoting: 55starchief
Ok matey, spoke to my mate this morning based on 4 hours it would be £120+40 for recovery +VAT if you can get the fitting times from the autodata book he charges £30+vat per hour
AllData says 4.7hours to replace without transfer of parts.
By my calcs, that's £141 +VAT
Quoting: Titsy
AllData says 4.7hours to replace without transfer of parts.
By my calcs, that's £141 +VAT
That's good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Quoting: Titsy
is anyone able to help me get car and gearbox over to wheels in motion to be worked on Wednesday 26th July
What kinda help will you need just a lift back? or you need the car trailered to Wheels in motion?
Quoting: Titsy
but it's not going to be easy to put the new gearbox in the back to transport it
Tricky might need a van for that?
Quoting: Titsy
i'll need a lift back after dropping it of and there again to collect....
This bit I can probably do
Quoting: Titsy
Can anyone PM me Ray's number.....
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/bump.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Tricky might need a van for that?
Or a big boot with seats folder down works well
Quoting: Titsy
Can anyone PM me Ray's number....
I aint got it sorry!
Quoting: ianjpage
Or a big boot with seats folder down works well
well if it will fit in the back of the renault then fine but i'm guessing it weighs quite a bit where's it being picked up from?
Quoting: Titsy
I've booked it in for 31st of July
A Monday huh (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
Well Roadkill and I are picking up my new box from Ray tomorrow, so there's nothing stopping me having a go at the old one when it's been swapped out.....
Kewl hope it all goes well for ya mate!
Quoting: Titsy
so there's nothing stopping me having a go at the old one when it's been swapped out.....
Before you put the new box in change the oil filter , costs under £20 with pan gasket ( strongly recommend that you buy the cork gasket to stop any leaks ) and then dump some nice fresh oil in (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: F Body
Before you put the new box in change the oil filter , costs under £20 with pan gasket ( strongly recommend that you buy the cork gasket to stop any leaks ) and then dump some nice fresh oil in
That should have been done on the rebuild and uprate
Quoting: 55starchief
That should have been done on the rebuild and uprate
It was but its been stored for 2 years, albeit in a climate controlled environment, so removal of the pan and a quick check over plus a change of oil is recommended as per any other change of gearbox.
Quoting: Big Mouse
It was but its been stored for 2 years, albeit in a climate controlled environment, so removal of the pan and a quick check over plus a change of oil is recommended as per any other change of gearbox.
Thanks Ray (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: HardRockCamaro
Wow, that's the first I've herad of that!
You heard it hear!
Quoting: FUBAR
yeah Steve filled me in on the details tonight at the social club, this sort of mixed up naming scheme i'd never heard of b4 either and will probably teach PhilO a lesson or 2 too, makes you think the 3rd gens were simple, TH700R4 for a decade! none of this odd boxes under psudonyms stuff!!
even thirdgen 700R4's arent all the same, there are two different bellhousings, and different input splines and even two different pumps..
4th gens are a bit of a mystery to me though, dont know much about them, although as the new box came from an LS1 car, its not totaly suprising the bellhousing is different..
Quoting: philoldsmobile
its not totaly suprising the bellhousing is different..
The real difference in the bell housing is that the early 4L60e was like the 700R4 with a removable section at the bottom to aid removal, and the rest of the bell housing being part of the main casting.
The late 4L60e has a seperate casting that is all one piece and bolts onto the main casting from the inside....
From what i've seen, the bolt patterents and clearances are the same in both, but the input spline being different is a killer!
Quoting: Titsy
Only trouble is it's going to take 21days for delivery.....
They shipping by pigeon
Quoting: Titsy
Don't know, sounds like it...
Might be worth calling them and seeing how its being shipped, you might find for like £50 more you could get it quicker like in 4 days
Quoting: Titsy
Only trouble is it's going to take 21days for delivery.....
Bummer Mate you ain't having a lot of luck with that box (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
you camaro boys are starting to lag behind!!!
Sounds like racing talk, bubba. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Sounds like racing talk, bubba.
hehehe yeah MKB Drag race (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
bring it on!!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: ianjpage
hehehe yeah MKB Drag race
bring it on!!!
Can the pod cope with all of you.
Cann't include myself in that as mines still in bits
Quoting: Point and Squirt Racing
Can the pod cope with all of you.
Hmm well we can but try hehehe
Quoting: Titsy
Got my 'maro back
Have to change the ATF in 1000miles, but other than that all done for £882.71....
Glad to hear ya got it back mate, and TBH that aint a bad price at all really!!!
Quoting: F Body
That's good for the money as long as you got some sort of warranty ?
No one would offer a warranty with any kind of "after-market" equipment added to the car.
Having seen the remains of the old box was impressive.
The Guy said he'd never seen one as far gone as that one . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
No one would offer a warranty with any kind of "after-market" equipment added to the car.
So they have doubts / concerns then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
So they have doubts / concerns then
They did . . . But after Titsy explained how it worked they were happier.
The warranty bit would be a standard thing, not specific to the race logic kit.
Quoting: Roadkill
They did . . . But after Titsy explained how it worked they were happier
Yeah, they thought that it was a power adder..... But they is no way on gods earth it was anything to do with the traction control.... It's never going to be active in thrid gear unless you floor the throttle while doing 70 on an ice rink...... That and the fact that it takes power away from the engine......
But it's aftermarket, so what can I do other than remove it and put a tennis ball under the gas peddel...
Quoting: F Body
Acording to the diagnostic chart the top temp is 302 degrees F
thats way to high acording to TCI and they build some of the best transmisions available
Quoting: F Body
you already have a transmisssion cooler built into the radiator
Yeah but thats one of the problems as the rad will get hot and transfer heat to the trans cooler. I would add a second cooler either with a electric fan or try and get it in front of the rad
Looking at that chart I really need to get the temperature down do around the 175 180 mark... After just 20 mins I'm into the 20k miles failure.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Quoting: F Body
Regarding the cooler, you already have a transmisssion cooler built into the radiator
I knew that one from changing the rad when I first got the car, was thinking of changing the the thermostat to a 160 degree one to try and get the coolent temps down a bit and hence also the trans fluid temp....
Quoting: 55starchief
is there any way to remove the transcooler from the main rad to reduce heat soak, also how big is the cooler?
It's a phisical part of the rad, I think it might actually sync the coolent and trans fluid temps...... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Quoting: F Body
I'm still browsing the 1,791 pages of the 4L60E repair manual
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) Ouch....
Quoting: 55starchief
looking at the tci site i would guess it got over hot probably when that bodywork was blocking the air flow mate. The description of the clutchpaks matches that of over heated fluid
The crack in the end tank on the rad that was replaced was on the end where the trans pipe connect too....
Quoting: Titsy
Quoting: 55starchief
looking at the tci site i would guess it got over hot probably when that bodywork was blocking the air flow mate. The description of the clutchpaks matches that of over heated fluid
The crack in the end tank on the rad that was replaced was on the end where the trans pipe connect too....
all starts to add up, if the piece of body work that i bolted back up was blocking the airflow it could cause the temps to get higher which could have caused premature failure of the plastic tank and cooked the trans.
Personaly for the sake of £50 i would get an oil cooler and move it to the front of the car
Quoting: F Body
I'm still browsing the 1,791 pages of the 4L60E repair manual
Didn't find anything quoting transmission running temperatures apart from what I've already posted. That book is just mind boggling, may be 100+ pages on just one of the clutch units (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Additional oil cooler is looking like a good idea (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
if its stock, there is absolutely no need for a cooler...
The 4th gen has a cooler fitted as stock
Quoting: philoldsmobile
if the trans is running too hot with the stock setup, something is wrong.. adding an extra cooler to bring the temp back down is just bodging over the issue..
yup agreed there, but it wont be the traction control causing heat build up as it has no conection to the trans
Quoting: 55starchief
Unless his gauge is off, something is causing excess slippage. Bad shift or TCC solenoid not locking up the converter, or bad converter. Check fluid level, too. I've seen one quart down make a 15-20 degree difference. Temp should be around 180F.
In that case i'm not driving it down to Wiltshire tomorrow......
Will get back to WIM and find out what's going wrong...
Reprogrammed my PCM tonight, (longest 90 seconds of my life) so that the 1st fan comes on at 181F and the second at 190F.... After a 25min drive the trans temperature was up to 209F... Looks like it helped a little over my test on tuesday, but not enough for me to have any convidence in driving it any great distance....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
RACELOGIC TRACTION CONTROL IS NOT THE PROBLEM!!!!!
time will tell for that.... stock TC's on auto's dont induce misfire...
Quoting: Titsy
For the record, for the two tests I ran
I had the traction disabled!!! RACELOGIC TRACTION CONTROL IS NOT THE PROBLEM!!!!!
And it's overheating!!!!!!
Quoting: philoldsmobile
for reasons of keepig it an accurate test, i'd try it woth the stock PCM programe, otherwise the figures you get are worthless....
Did that on Tuesday and it reached 220F after a 20 min gentle drive....
AGAIN WITH THE TRACTION DISABLED!!!
Quoting: philoldsmobile
misfires cause auto transmisions to run much hotter FACT, so it IS in the equasion.. turning it off removes it..
If I just ran two test with it disabled and the trans overheating then regardless of whatever fact you might quote, during those two tests it was not the cause of overheating.... It therefore is discounted as a cause of overheating during these two tests and OUT OF THE EQUATION!!!!!
Quoting: Pod
Is the trans cooler that is on the car now actually getting hot?
good point there mate we are asuming that the trans oil is getting to the cooler
Quoting: philoldsmobile
not the cause of this specific overheating problem, but the cause of the overall probelm? cant be ruled out...
HOW F***ING REDICULOUS, DON'T EVEN SPEAK TO ME ANYMORE, YOU'RE TALKING S**T!!!!!!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)
Quoting: Pod
Is the trans cooler that is on the car now actually getting hot?
Same for the hoses either side of it.
It's part of the rad... The cooling pipes run inside the rad end tank.... Will have a feel round the pipes next time I run it....
Quoting: philoldsmobile
the coolers in the rad can block, but that would be unlikely with a new rad (but not impossible due to faulty brazing)
or the junk from a failed autobox
Quoting: 55starchief
or the junk from a failed autobox
Found a rebuild artical yesterday that warned about some small holes becoming blocked after transmission failure in the 4l60e, which leads to over heating !
I've just spent nearly an hour trying to find it ?
Still looking ........
Quoting: EDGE
so, with the TC off it's still overheating the fluid ???
Yes!!!!
Quoting: philoldsmobile
how many miles has the trans done?
About 100 since the rebuild...
Quoting: F Body
I've just spent nearly an hour trying to find it ?
Still looking ........
Found it !
It's likely the small VB filters (AFL/Shift solenoids) that are located in the seperator plate are clogged up.
These are notorious for clogging up and causing low line pressure in early 4th gen years.
GM evenutally went to a less restrictive material.
It's likely the trans flush may have been able to reduce this debris a bit.
One of the filters is responsible for the feed oil to the PC (pressure control) solenoid, that then controls how much pressure rises and falls to changes in throttle.
This is where the slips and likely high fluid temps are being caused.
The filters are cheap, but require the VB to be removed (which for the inexperienced is not recommended).
It may be time to learn! No special tools required.
Quoting: Titsy
Phil, heat kills auto boxes too.... With the traction disabled and after a 15min drive on tuesday the transmision fluid temperature rose to a temperaure that if sustained would cause the box to fail after 12,000 miles.... It is more logical to conclude that overheating caused buy a fault somewhere in the system cause the box to fail... The clutch plates for 3rd gear (the gear in which most driving off moterways is done) were all but gone!! 1st and 2nd were fine and dandy in comparison.....
Pritty much the only times a car will loose traction are when pulling away, or while accelerating excesivelly through a bend.... When pulling away 1st gear is being used (which was fine), and I simply don't carry speed through corners because the car scares the s**t out of me and I don't have the confidence in my driving ability to do so.... So unless there's been alot of ice on the roads over the summer the likelyhood of my car having lost traction in 3rd gear durring the 2 months between fitting the traction and the trans breaking is very unlikely......
right.. now we are looking at things logicaly..
first off though, is it normal for the trans to run hotter while breaking in? although hot, its not amazingly hot.. and probably not as hot as it would be if it was in another vehicle (say, a pickup) and towing..
if it was 250+ then there would probably be more reason for concern, but you are only about 15 - 20* over normal...
has the temp changed since the rebuild? is it gradualy coming down?
Quoting: Titsy
About 100 since the rebuild...
wont be broken in yet then...
when the tranny was rebuilt, was the housing chemical cleaned? does the whole thing look brand new?
Quoting: philoldsmobile
has the temp changed since the rebuild? is it gradualy coming down?
Have only done two tests, and for the second the temperature was marginally lower but I had the fans running from 185F up
Quoting: Incursus
Just a thought, how are you checking the temp? if its a sensor on the car can you be sure its accurate?
I am using a laptop readout of an OBD sensor in the trans.... It appears to be working correctly as it is at the right temperature when cold and not giving any eratic readings....
I may have found a possible cause of overheating though.... Every time I have checked the level the trans has been hot, but when it gets hot at the moment it gets really HOT and the fluid goes so thin it's difficult to see the level as it runs out of the holes that are ment to trap it at each end of the hot section....
So, I did a check this morning with the engine just strated, cycled through the gears pausing at each for 3 seconds as per the workshop manual, selected Park, laptop reading 80F, check the level and it is way above the 80F mark and the warm mark and well into the HOT section.....
To much fluid it a cause of overheating and spitting fluid.... Hopefully I can just suck out some fluid to reduce it to the right level and the box will run at around 180F like it's supposed too.....fingers crossed
Quoting: Titsy
To much fluid it a cause of overheating and spitting fluid.... Hopefully I can just suck out some fluid to reduce it to the right level and the box will run at around 180F like it's supposed too.....fingers crossed
Any news on the box ?
Quoting: Big Mouse
Would it not have occurred to you, or anyone else here, to take it back to WiM the moment it started running hot?? I would have had it back to them for a checkover the same day.
It has been suggested but it looks like WiM wont warranty the work carried out due to the aftermarket traction system that is fitted
Quoting: 55starchief
WiM wont warranty the work carried out due to the aftermarket traction system that is fitted
Hmm, thats not a good sign. Having been to their workshop and listened to him tell me about the "blown, nitroused and turboed" !!! 2nd gen bird he was planning to build that he expected "4000hp or a bit more" out of (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
I wasn't impressed.
That and the conditions they were working in would have stopped me in my tracks. A trans shop needs to be almost clinical in terms of cleanliness.
Unfortunately, and as much as Titsy thinks otherwise, a traction control unit will have some affect on a stock trans although I don't think its the cause of the overheating in this case. GM refused to carry out any warranty work on my car as soon as I fitted a cat back exhaust; this goes with the territory when modifying cars so expect it. Of course there are others who will use it to their advantage (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
If the system is clean once its pulled out and checked and the overheating continues I'd take it to a specialist shop like Allders or Penn Autos to have the rebuild checked.
Quoting: Titsy
After messing about getting the fluid level right (and I drew off quite a bit) I went for a 50min drive from Hanslope, down the A5 as far as the Fenny Stratford roundabout and back to the Old Straford Roundabout and back twice and then back to Hanslope...
The temperature peaked at about 194F, and the normal operating range for the box is 180F to 200F.....
Always check the simple things first huh....
that and the break in period mate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif)
Quoting: F Body
Really hope you've got it sorted Mate, you could do with a bit of luck with her now ?
Tell me about it....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
Quoting: F Body
Really hope you've got it sorted Mate, you could do with a bit of luck with her now ?
Tell me about it....
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
Sailed to work in my V8 boat today and no overheating...
Cool
Quoting: FUBAR
I'd hardly call a 4th gen a Boat
That's what the guys at work call it... I get all sorts of stick... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
Sailed to work in my V8 boat today and no overheating...
Great News !
This is a boat :
(http://members.aol.com/nlt99/71riv.GIF\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>Still can't believe that I turned down the chance of owning a beaut last year.It was the one feature in Classic American about Sept last year, the Guy is diabetic and has gone blind, so offered me first choice.It was just too dam big [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Quoting: Fin170703
how much was he asking f-body ??
Offers around £9k (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Fin170703
got any pics of the car mate ?
Here it is at last years AACI Summer nats 16/06/05 :
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/fbody007/Misc/CIMG0820.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>Sorry for the [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/hijack.gif)
Quoting: F Body
Here it is at last years AACI Summer nats 16/06/05 :
And you didn't rip his arm off why????? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
consider the thread on loan until the trans dies again
"We" don't want to go there (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
And you didn't rip his arm off why?????
It's about twice as wide as the Camaro and a couple of feet longer whilst still being a two door (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Although it was mint if you remember reading the CA artical it has a 350 Chevy under the hood not the original 427.
Just wish I had the space to even park it never mind even under cover (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Quoting: F Body
Here it is at last years AACI Summer nats 16/06/05 :
Very cool, Riviera is definatly on my buy if when I win the lotto list. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: 55starchief
Well this weekend we think we found what was causing the overheating and probably the failure in the first place
Do tell more...
Quoting: Titsy
They have them used for $10 on eBay USA, but don't ship outside the states....
speak to carl mate, am sure he could get it for you and ship it across
Quoting: Pod
Get someone to distract Vicky for a few minutes....
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Thought about that one, but I figured I wouldn't live very long if I tried it.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
It seems that my cooling system is missing a vital part worth just $10, and that has cost me near on £1k when you tot up the radiator replacement and trans rebuild; both of which can be contributed to long term overheating....
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!
I heard of this exact same thing a while ago.. a guy in a turd gen had over heating issues and replaced practically everything, rad, motor, heads etc.. the LOT...
turns out he was just missing the little plastic flap (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
I HOPE that solves it dude...
EDGE
Quoting: Titsy
They have them used for $10 on eBay USA, but don't ship outside the states....
Any suggestions for a supplier over hear...?
Give US automotive or JWR a call.
Quoting: Titsy
Any suggestions for a supplier over hear...?
Call geoff at astoria and tell him i gave you his number
http://www.astoria-motor.co.uk/
more details on the MKB homepage
Quoting: Roadkill
Fingers crossed that sorts it.
Indeed... Will fit it and go for a drive and see what happens I suppose...
Quoting: 55starchief
say hi to geoff for me
Will do...
Quoting: Roadkill
Fingers crossed that sorts it.
ditto!!
Quoting: ianjpage
Quoting: Roadkill
Fingers crossed that sorts it.
ditto!!
Double ditto!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Fingers crossed that sorts it.
Quadruple ditto (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
Got a call on my way over from Geoff's wife Sue saying that it was locked up in a warehouse for the night and they couldn't get to it...
Should be able to collect tomorrow...
DOH!
Quoting: Titsy
Should be able to collect tomorrow...
Well is it fitted ?
Has it made any difference ??
Quoting: Titsy
Anyone local got a garage I could pull the 'maro (or front end at least) into to fit the baffle?
Well, if I had a set of ramps . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
Anyone local got a garage I could pull the 'maro (or front end at least) into to fit the baffle?
I get enough stick for using the garage when i do, don't think inviting my mates round to work on their cars in there too would go down too well...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
I doubt the 'maro would go in on Caddy ramps, ground clerance is a little lower...
The ramps are designed to suit a ground clearance of 6.5" . . . . FYI . . .
Quoting: Titsy
Anyone
local got a garage
Quoting: ianjpage
erm if the guys are up the barn whynot use that???
Quoting: Titsy
Quoting: Titsy
Anyone local got a garage
Quoting: ianjpage
erm if the guys are up the barn whynot use that???
Well when yer me the barn islocal to MK lol
Quoting: Titsy
Anyone local got a garage I could pull the 'maro (or front end at least) into to fit the baffle? The weather for the weekend don't look to good, and I don't fancy rolling around on the floor for hours on end if it turns out to be a PITA to fit....
Guessing thats a no then
Quoting: Titsy
Doesn't seem to have helped at all....
Bummer Mate, is it worth giving the fluid lines and box a good flush through ?
It ain't much fun having a red dexron bath but the last thing you want is the box going AWOL again (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Quoting: F Body
is it worth giving the fluid lines and box a good flush through ?
Yup.... Any suggestions on how to purge and flush the box lines and cooler?
Quoting: Titsy
Any suggestions on how to purge and flush the box lines and cooler?
I'm thinking disconnect the cooler oil lines as close to the box as possible, then connect up the feed line to an airline ( compressor ) and blow all the oil out into a container. When I change the gearbox oil I use one of those large plastic under bed storage boxes on wheels ( cost £8 but you can borrow mine it you want )
Blow all the oil out into the "clean container" until you have a good flow of air back through the lines.
Now if you have a contamination problem it should be visible in the flushed oil, if the oil is a nice ruby red colour and clean that crosses the cooler and oil off the problem list.
It also saves you dropping the gearbox sump coz it's messy and costs a few quid in oil.
If there is a contamination problem, you'll have to drop the sump, change the oil and filter, run it again for a few miles and repeat the process.
The only way to check the filter for contamination is to break it apart once it's out (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
If you do buy the filter set make sure that you order the cork pan gasket ( the standard filter & gasket GM part No. 24200796 - £47.54 is paper and is a b!tch to seal )
The cork sump gasket is only £3.77 from USless Automotive (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Another key point , the sump bolts should only be tighted to 8lb ft which is bearly more than finger tight (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
I had a slight oil leak last month and just went round and nipped up the bolts just 2 flats more - sorted !
I've done the oil change five times and it's messy, the first time I left the gearbox draining for two days and it was still dripping !
If you need a hand give me a shout (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: 55starchief
when was the last oil chnage? was it flushed?
Not a clue, was planning on an oil and filter change for exactly the reasion that I don't know when it was last done...
Chuck some flush through at the same time....