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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 17, 2006, 09:51:47 am
Well first things first the new IROC sailed through its MOT this morning as predicted (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)  Took it up to Paragon so was a nice drive out too, Nathan was impressed (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Here are some Piccys of My New Car: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/smilies/fubar89.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/IROCHome1.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/IROCHome3.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/IROCHome4.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/IROCHome5.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>There's a few bits i've got to swap over, and the light blackouts are awaiting cleaning before they go on but apart from that she's all there.There is also a 3" Stainless Borla Cat-Back system on order and a MOMO Millennium Steering wheel as the stock one is a bit worn out.FUBAR = Happy atm [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on July 17, 2006, 09:57:36 am
Mmm very nice mate - have fun with it .....
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on July 17, 2006, 09:57:45 am
...but dont break it  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 17, 2006, 09:59:57 am
Oh and apart from being Insanely jealous PhilO is pissed off for 1 reason... and its to do with the boot... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Sammy Lou on July 17, 2006, 10:00:33 am
Quoting: ianjpage
...but dont break it  


he is a camaro owner of course he will break it(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on July 17, 2006, 10:04:47 am
As opposed to a Ford owner, who's cars do it themselves  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on July 17, 2006, 10:07:48 am
looks well looked after fella (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
enjoy it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on July 17, 2006, 10:31:47 am
Mmm, “bellas rodas”  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on July 17, 2006, 11:05:47 am
Quoting: FUBAR

Oh and apart from being Insanely jealous PhilO is pissed off for 1 reason... and its to do with the boot...


Hmm wonder why that is - perhaps its STAYING power (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on July 17, 2006, 11:06:00 am
Quoting: Sammy Lou
he is a camaro owner of course he will break it


hehe too true!!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on July 17, 2006, 11:06:15 am
Quoting: Jamieg285

As opposed to a Ford owner, who's cars do it themselves


mumble, Grumble!!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on July 17, 2006, 11:19:54 am
Quoting: Jamieg285
As opposed to a Ford owner, who's cars do it themselves


Hmmm... My Focus gives me less hastle than my 'maro..... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on July 17, 2006, 11:49:47 am
Quoting: FUBAR
the new IROC sailed through its MOT this morning


Way to go Fella (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR
apart from being Insanely jealous PhilO is pissed off for 1 reason


PhilO told me that's why they invented broom handles (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Quoting: Titsy
Hmmm... My Focus gives me less hastle than my 'maro.....

But how many smiles per mile do you get ?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Giblets on July 17, 2006, 12:12:28 pm
Looks real good mate. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I have a spare graphic that doesn't belong with my car that may be of use to you:

'5.7 litre tuned port injection'

Does yours have these?

I think they go down the sides.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 17, 2006, 12:19:35 pm
Quoting: Giblets
'5.7 litre tuned port injection'


If its a raised letter jobby, black with silver letters and about 15mm high it goes in the recess on the Rear Bumper.  Its just about visible on the left in the Pic above.

If its got the silver text (not gold or red) and has not previously been stuck to anything (basically so the adhesive is still in good condition) then yes i'm interested.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Giblets on July 17, 2006, 12:21:43 pm
Yeah it's silver, and it's yours mate. I'll bring it to the next meet.

What's the latest on the interior swap?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 17, 2006, 12:22:15 pm
Quoting: ianjpage
Hmm wonder why that is - perhaps its STAYING power


Lets put it this way, its actually hard to push the boot closed... so much so that in the Cost Co Carpark on saturday on the way home I clicked the boot release switch, by the time I got to the back of the car the boot was fully open... all by itself!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

At which point I burst out laughing & Phil went and hid in his mustang (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on July 17, 2006, 12:26:15 pm
HAHAHAHA i bet he just loved that (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/roll.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: EDGE on July 17, 2006, 12:30:08 pm
hehehe...

looks very nice dude...

EDGE
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on July 17, 2006, 02:04:35 pm
Needs a set of pressed ally plates, Mate.

Plastic ones look nasty. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 17, 2006, 02:12:51 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Plastic ones look nasty.


Dunno, I like the ones on this Car, the eagle isn't the best thing to have on there IMO but overall they're nice.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Giblets on July 17, 2006, 03:44:31 pm
My boot opens all the way itself too.

Gas struts are only a couple of years old, so still do the job well.

Ones on bonnet are only months old!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on July 17, 2006, 03:46:15 pm
Looks cool, well done  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 17, 2006, 03:49:11 pm
Quoting: Giblets
My boot opens all the way itself too.


Hatch Racing!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 17, 2006, 03:51:14 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Lets put it this way, its actually hard to push the boot closed... so much so that in the Cost Co Carpark on saturday on the way home I clicked the boot release switch, by the time I got to the back of the car the boot was fully open... all by itself!!

At which point I burst out laughing & Phil went and hid in his mustang



grumble.......(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

looking nice dude!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Giblets on July 17, 2006, 03:53:11 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Hatch Racing!


Yeah it could catch on as a new form of motorsport!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 17, 2006, 03:53:29 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Needs a set of pressed ally plates, Mate.


they are getting mega strict on plates now, and pressed alloy plates, even the reflective ones are illegal.

not worth the risk IMHO.. plus they always seem to look dirty and tatty..
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on July 17, 2006, 05:08:56 pm
The boot rams are good because it was imported with a sunscreen thing on it that weighed quite a bit,if you want any pics of it when it came in mate let me know as it may be good for your documentation
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on July 17, 2006, 05:25:03 pm
Before and after clean

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/clairecar/2615e92a.jpg)

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/clairecar/faa1b76b.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 17, 2006, 05:53:45 pm
a truly gorgeous car.... :drool:
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: mike on July 17, 2006, 07:54:38 pm
Glad your pleased Ryan car looks great nice to see I'll be keeping an eye on it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
That's was sneaky Rocky did not tell me you had those photo's(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)
Still sad about loosing her but I know your look after her and improve her if possible
Good Luck
mate
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 17, 2006, 09:58:47 pm
Quoting: Rocky
if you want any pics of it when it came in mate let me know as it may be good for your documentation


Yes please m8, i'll have everything you've got if thats alright.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: VIPER on July 17, 2006, 10:16:52 pm
Very nice.....

DO NOT BOLT A FRONT PLATE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go sticker
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on July 18, 2006, 07:19:55 am
How about this one then
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/clairecar/DSC00013.jpg) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/clairecar/dbdf4116.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Giblets on July 18, 2006, 08:26:05 am
Fubar - Are you sure you want to stick your rear light clusters on this matey?

I'm really not sure it's a good look myself, as your car is nice and standard visually. Only my opinion of course, but I'd keep the rear lights standard, as I've always liked them.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 18, 2006, 09:32:20 am
Quoting: Giblets
Fubar - Are you sure you want to stick your rear light clusters on this matey?


They are just Overlays m8, the stock lights are still underneath.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 18, 2006, 09:32:34 am
Quoting: Rocky
How about this one then


Cheers buddy.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Sammy Lou on July 18, 2006, 09:55:24 am
oh ryan the car looks good by the way
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 18, 2006, 12:31:48 pm
Quoting: Sammy Lou
oh ryan the car looks good by the way


Cheers sammy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 18, 2006, 03:50:57 pm
I got the Light blackouts fitted today, as well as my clear side markers and replacement front indicator lenses:

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BlackousFitted.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/SidemarkersR.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/SidemarkersL.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on July 18, 2006, 04:03:26 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
I got the Light blackouts fitted today


Still not entirely convinced about those (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 18, 2006, 04:04:32 pm
Quoting: F Body
Still not entirely convinced about those


they look better in person, its a bit of a crap piccy...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 18, 2006, 04:10:48 pm
My Drive today:
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/MyMaros2web.jpg)

The fleet ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Giblets on July 18, 2006, 04:24:36 pm
You have a double drive?

YOU SWINE !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)

The lenses don't look too bad actually, and as you say they are removable.

I just find the whole concept a bit Halfords for my tastes, but it looks better on the blue car.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on July 18, 2006, 04:26:54 pm
Quoting: Giblets
You have a double drive?


Hey I've got the drive but only one garage (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 18, 2006, 04:43:38 pm
Quoting: Giblets
You have a double drive?

YOU SWINE !!!  


Oh yeah BTW Rafe, if its raining on saturday we're still on for the seat swap, i'll move my step dad's car out of the Garage & we'll stick both cars in there & swap em under cover.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 18, 2006, 07:35:48 pm
those clear side markers just look soooooo much nicer!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on July 18, 2006, 07:51:42 pm
Quoting: philoldsmobile
those clear side markers just look soooooo much nicer!

Funny they always seem better with darker colours like blue & black ?
I still prefer orange with red paint ( said Mr Bog Standard ) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 18, 2006, 08:42:02 pm
i dunno.... i've seen clear markers on red peanut headlight camaro's, and they look pretty damned good!

orange and red seem to clash to me
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 23, 2006, 09:49:53 pm
Been cleaning the IROC's engine bay this evening (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) Until the Exhaust, Steering wheel & new door rubbers arrive there's nothing else to do on it!! Its quite a nice feeling actually!

n.b. Auto Glym Instant Show shine spray is very good at removing mild engine bay grime (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/badger.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on July 24, 2006, 05:59:40 am
Quoting: FUBAR
there's nothing else to do on it!! Its quite a nice feeling actually!

World domination to the engine bay polishers (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 24, 2006, 07:33:49 pm
indeed!

(http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL534/831153/11363891/170643110.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 24, 2006, 09:43:06 pm
Only done 1/2 of mine so far, will have to take some piccies when its done (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on July 25, 2006, 08:47:05 am
Quoting: FUBAR
there's nothing else to do on it!! Its quite a nice feeling actually!


Quoting: F Body
World domination to the engine bay polishers


Uh-ooh.

The Freaks are multiplying. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Open season, methinks. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/greenrocket.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 25, 2006, 08:49:20 am
Quoting: Roadkill
The Freaks are multiplying.  


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

we will defend ourselves!
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/spam.gif)
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/hunter.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on July 25, 2006, 08:56:49 am
Quoting: FUBAR
we will defend ourselves!


With what ?

Autosol and lint free cloths ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 25, 2006, 08:59:06 am
Nope see above... Shotguns & Cans of Spam!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on July 25, 2006, 09:00:28 am
Mmmmm, Spam. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Mmmmm, Spam with peanut butter. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Mmmmm, Spam Fritters. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 25, 2006, 09:02:06 am
Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Eggs & Spam
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on July 25, 2006, 09:02:47 am
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/hijack.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on July 25, 2006, 09:28:11 am
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/postwhore1.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 26, 2006, 10:18:40 pm
Back ontopic...

Rocky has found out for me today the details of the custom Prom he knew was in my car, aparantly its a "Memory Calibration module replacment, part number '40032' from SLP but was purchaced around 1990"

I have had a brief look around the interwebnet but have not come up with any further details as of yet...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on July 26, 2006, 10:31:02 pm
I would email SLP and ask if they have any information on that part number
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 26, 2006, 10:46:58 pm
Quoting: 55starchief
I would email SLP and ask if they have any information on that part number


Good thinking Batman, will do.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 27, 2006, 08:12:18 am
Hmm SLP don't have a contact e-mail address listed on their site (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) i'll ask on thirdgen.org if anyone knows any details.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on July 27, 2006, 08:14:37 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Hmm SLP don't have a contact e-mail address listed on their site i'll ask on thirdgen.org if anyone knows any details.


Alot of those places dont you have to call up and ask
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on July 27, 2006, 05:21:42 pm
They dont like emails only dealers have email access.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Goatman on July 27, 2006, 07:33:45 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Hmm SLP don't have a contact e-mail address listed on their site  i'll ask on thirdgen.org if anyone knows any details.
The number for SLP is (732)349-2109. That's the number I have here in the states.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 09, 2006, 06:37:44 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) New Aerial Arrived today...

Aerial Before, clocking in at 31"...
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/AerialBefore.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>

Aerial After Clocking in at 8", does exactly the same job and is still more than enough to please the Ladies!!
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/AerialAfter.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on August 09, 2006, 09:26:17 pm
uhhhhh............    (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

ariel looks good..... you keep yer 8" to yerself though!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 09, 2006, 09:42:14 pm
Quoting: philoldsmobile
uhhhhh............

ariel looks good..... you keep yer 8" to yerself though!





(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 10, 2006, 08:48:31 am
Driving around last night was making me realise just how much more Body flex there is in the T-Top 3rd Gens (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) things are so much more creaky!

Think the first Major purchase for my car will be some SFCs from Rocky... before I underseal the car!
Need to save up a bit of Cash, good usage for the last of my significant Bar wages... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) but (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 10, 2006, 03:08:39 pm
Spoke to US Automotive today just chasing about my exhaust system, aparantly if it Makes it to their Atlanta Depot today (its en-route) it will fly over the weekend & be ready for collection Monday / Tuesday.

That is Provided bloody customs don't cause problems with whats happened today!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 12, 2006, 02:43:16 pm
First MPG Test results for the IROC are in,

235miles on 45litres approximately

equates too 23.76mpg (Using UK Gallons)
or 19.78mpg (using US Gallons)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on August 12, 2006, 03:40:38 pm
Joe C tried to get a Borla system from US Automotive and they said they arnt bringing in 3rd gen exhausts anymore. Unless they didnt want to supply him as he had a lot of trouble with them last week, They ended up phoning me for a yelling match
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on August 12, 2006, 04:21:11 pm
Quoting: Rocky
Joe C tried to get a Borla system from US Automotive

Well when I asked them to get me a SLP system they only wanted to supply a Borla system (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)
I told them that their avertistment at the time said " If it's manufactured we can supply it "
So five weeks later I got the SLP system, they were a Borla Dealer ??
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Giblets on August 14, 2006, 12:43:10 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
First MPG Test results for the IROC are in,

235miles on 45litres approximately

equates too 23.76mpg (Using UK Gallons)
or 19.78mpg (using US Gallons)


Time I did the same.

Would be happy with those numbers to be honest.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 14, 2006, 01:09:43 pm
That was on a nice mix of driving types too, some motorway cruising & around town too
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on August 14, 2006, 09:34:35 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
equates too 23.76mpg (Using UK Gallons)


Thats not bad think i get about 25mpg out of the Mustang...

446km on a tank  50 ltr tank...i fink

dunno maths aint my strong point and i'm tired...i'll have another look in the morning
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 16, 2006, 12:46:36 pm
Just had a phonecall from US Automotive...

My Borla Exhaust is in & ready for collection (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) so PhilO is going to go & pick it up this evening for me (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Shame we can't get clare's package to her too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 16, 2006, 12:48:39 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Just had a phonecall from US Automotive...

My Borla Exhaust is in & ready for collection so PhilO is going to go & pick it up this evening for me


kewl - that didn't take long!!

Quoting: FUBAR
Shame we can't get clare's package to her too



Yeah!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 16, 2006, 12:50:16 pm
Quoting: ianjpage
kewl - that didn't take long!!


5 weeks so, pretty much on time (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: a91_formula on August 16, 2006, 01:01:11 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Just had a phonecall from US Automotive...

My Borla Exhaust is in & ready for collection   so PhilO is going to go & pick it up this evening for me    


Kewl - just waiting for them to come back with a quote on a MAC system for the Trans Am then i'll be putting my order in for one of those too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR
Shame we can't get clare's package to her too


Not a problem mate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on August 16, 2006, 01:03:49 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
My Borla Exhaust is in & ready for collection   so PhilO is going to go & pick it up this evening for me


Remember you was gonna let me know . . . . . . ?

:nugde: :prod: :nudge:

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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 16, 2006, 01:06:09 pm
yeah give PhilO a call, he will probably pick those bits up for you too m8.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on August 16, 2006, 01:10:18 pm
Just sent him a text . . . .
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 16, 2006, 01:57:11 pm
Quoting: FUBAR

5 weeks so, pretty much on time


Fair enough!!

Quoting: Roadkill
Remember you was gonna let me know . . . . . . ?

:nugde: :prod: :nudge:



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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 21, 2006, 11:09:07 am
Rocky

If you have my car in next month for the re-spraying on the chin spoiler would you be able to fit my new steering wheel too?  I can't get the old one off and don't have an American GM wheel puller (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) have you got one?

That is of course unless PhilO's puller arrives beforehand.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on August 21, 2006, 11:54:12 am
Quoting: FUBAR
I can't get the old one off and don't have an American GM wheel puller  have you got one?


Did you want to try my one?  I can bring it to the Sept meet.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 21, 2006, 01:06:38 pm
Quoting: Jamieg285
Did you want to try my one? I can bring it to the Sept meet.


Yeah definately if you have one Jamie that would be excelent (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 21, 2006, 02:10:40 pm
Jamie, are you coming to Pods this weekend at all? If you are could you bring it with you then?

I'm trying to get some time booked off next week (Tues / Weds) to fit all the parts to my car that have arrived over the last week so would be cool if I could fit it then...

If you're not then no worries m8, it will have to wait.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on August 21, 2006, 02:15:13 pm
Unlikely, running out of weekends to do all those little jobs on the car that end up taking hours.  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on August 21, 2006, 02:16:43 pm
Bring the wheel and bits with you, it won't take long to swap over.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 21, 2006, 03:45:36 pm
Quoting: Jamieg285
Bring the wheel and bits with you, it won't take long to swap over.


Tis true, provided nothing breaks (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
I shall Bring it with me...

Will bring my socket set too as some bits will be needed...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on August 21, 2006, 05:03:55 pm
If you get stuck mate pop it round and i will take it off for you.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 21, 2006, 10:19:20 pm
New Question...

How the hell do you remove the centre console plate that houses the shifter indicator & the ashtray?

How on earth do you get the shifter knob off? thats the only way I can see it can be done... I have the non-round leather type.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 21, 2006, 10:24:39 pm
Ok... doofus does his research AFTER asking the question...

Quoting: 3rdgen.org

1. Pull the ebrake till its fully locked. Turn the key to the run position and put the car into 1st gear.
2. With a small flatblade screwdriver remove the clip from the front of the shift knob. Its shaped like a large staple. With it removed slide the shift knob off of the shifter.


http://www.thirdgen.org/shiftindicator

that took all of 5 mins... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 22, 2006, 09:11:19 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Ok... doofus does his research AFTER asking the question...

Quoting: 3rdgen.org

1. Pull the ebrake till its fully locked. Turn the key to the run position and put the car into 1st gear.
2. With a small flatblade screwdriver remove the clip from the front of the shift knob. Its shaped like a large staple. With it removed slide the shift knob off of the shifter.


http://www.thirdgen.org/shiftindicator

that took all of 5 mins...


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)

lol sposed to be other way round !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 23, 2006, 11:26:12 am
I have a plan...
but it requires some planning (duh!)

I'm intending to take a week off work at some point in September to work on my car and do the following, some jobs smaller than others:

To be Fitted:
New Exhaust (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (But might need some help (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif))
Door Rubber Seals
Window sweep seals
Mirror Glass
Instrument Panel Overlays & Bulbs (Not Chavy! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif))
Fit Speakers.
Fit steering wheel (looks like this will be done at the Fancott though)
Remove wiring for old 80's Yuppie Carphone Kit (Excluding aerial)

While the doors are in bits I'm planning to:
Grease all window mechanisms
Clean & corrosion protect the inner door Skins

Also to do is:
Thoroughly Clean & underseal entire floorpan & arches (2 days work I reckon) But a LOT easier with the pit at the Barn!

The most convinient place for me to do this work is in my Garage, however the light is awful and its fairly cramped so isn't the best place for all these jobs.  So... would it be possible for me to use the Barn to do this work? If I can the W/C 11th September would be best because the Mezz will be up opening up loads more working space
 
This however presents 1 major problem, I can't get to Brackley every day when my only car is in bits.  The only solution I can think of to that is quite a major favor from Graeme of...
a) could you put me up for a week?
b) are you happy with me being at the barn all day by myself?
c) ferry me over there before work in the mornings & pick me up later...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on August 23, 2006, 11:36:27 am
Quoting: FUBAR
c) ferry me over there before work in the mornings & pick me up later...


Walk you lazy bum (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on August 23, 2006, 11:53:30 am
Sod commuting to Brackley for a week. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Mind you the option is living with Graemey for a week . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

I'd do the work on my driveway, personally. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on August 23, 2006, 12:12:53 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
a) could you put me up for a week?
b) are you happy with me being at the barn all day by myself?
c) ferry me over there before work in the mornings & pick me up later...



Plenty of space for a tent at the barn
No problem here
See first sugestion


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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on August 23, 2006, 12:50:04 pm
Quoting: 55starchief
Plenty of space for a tent at the barn


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)

Be nice and warm in the cow shed (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 23, 2006, 12:55:11 pm
Quoting: Incursus
Be nice and warm in the cow shed


LOL yeah and plenty of extra "insulation" if ya gety cold LOL (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 23, 2006, 01:09:52 pm
Quoting: 55starchief
Plenty of space for a tent at the barn


Ok, i'll do it at home. no probs.

Most of it can be done on the driveway anyway, its just the undersealing & exhaust that would have to be done off the slopey driveway
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on August 23, 2006, 06:20:41 pm
If your planning on having SFCs please dont underseal the car in flamable stuff,(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 23, 2006, 07:37:45 pm
Quoting: Rocky
If your planning on having SFCs please dont underseal the car in flamable stuff,


I was going to use either the Hammeright underseal with waxoyl or POR15
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 23, 2006, 10:44:49 pm
Decided to start on these, i've been wanting these Instrument Panel overlays for AGES and found it very easy to justify buying them for the new car (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
in addition to this there's one for the Heater control panel and a full set for the Gauge cluster too, all in nice brushed Aluminium (effect)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BAShiftIndicator.jpg)

I also have Blue Quad-LED 194 bulbs to replace the light behind this panel and all the bulbs in the Gauge cluster too.  it's going to look awesome when its all done & paired up with my new steering wheel (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on August 23, 2006, 10:55:15 pm
Tart. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 23, 2006, 10:59:20 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Tart.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 24, 2006, 07:42:12 am
Quoting: Rocky
If your planning on having SFCs please dont underseal the car in flamable stuff,


Actually the plan might change slightly from the above based around these, It all depends how much money I get from my last week as Bar Manager.
If I get enough, are you able to do me a set of SFC's (Full) in September? the earlier the better, that way i can have those done & underseal the rest of the car afterwards
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 24, 2006, 07:42:44 am
LOL well get ti done then!!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 24, 2006, 07:43:08 am
(oh and dont forget before & after pics for the gallery - modifications section!!)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on August 24, 2006, 07:49:07 am
Blue LEDS are so 90's what you need is tri colour red,green,blue then you can have any colour you like with the flick of a switch, mood dashboard (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 24, 2006, 07:49:55 am
Quoting: 55starchief
flick of a switch, mood dashboard


Na, why would I want red & green?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on August 24, 2006, 07:51:37 am
Quoting: FUBAR
a, why would I want red & green?


cause with red,green and blue you can make any colour light (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 24, 2006, 07:53:38 am
I'm happy with Blue
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on August 24, 2006, 07:57:33 am
Quoting: FUBAR
I'm happy with Blue


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/new_russian.gif)




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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 24, 2006, 07:59:21 am
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/slap.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 24, 2006, 08:53:07 am
Quoting: FUBAR
I'm happy with Blue


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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on August 24, 2006, 05:35:08 pm
Yeah let me know when you want to bring it in
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 24, 2006, 09:25:31 pm
Piccys:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BAShiftIndicatorLight.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BAShiftIndicatorDark.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 24, 2006, 09:26:41 pm
The bad thing is with all the stereo playing around with, doors being open, headlights being on i've manage to flatten the battery this evening! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif) so couldn't take it out for a little drive (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 24, 2006, 09:39:34 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
The bad thing is with all the stereo playing around with, doors being open, headlights being on i've manage to flatten the battery this evening! so couldn't take it out for a little drive


LOL newb error!!!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 28, 2006, 04:04:16 pm
What i've been doing today...

Maro in Bits!
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BAWorkinProgress1.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BAWorkinProgress2.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
Reading up to find out which pins were the Live & Ground for the LED Lights as they are polarised and I didn't want to have the cluster out twice!!
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BAWorkinProgress3.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
All done!
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BAWorkinProgress4.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>

Heater Controls finished:
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BAHeaterControls.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
And the Gauge Cluster all re-installed!
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BAFinished1.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BAFinished2Daylight.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 28, 2006, 04:05:40 pm
I'll take some more piccys when I take the car our tonight for a little spin (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on August 28, 2006, 06:40:51 pm
nice! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 28, 2006, 10:54:55 pm
Night-time photo...
sorry for the quality but the phone camera isn't any good in the dark...

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BAFinished2Night.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on August 29, 2006, 03:11:35 pm
Ahem.

Tart.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 29, 2006, 03:15:48 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Ahem.

Tart.





LOL - is rather "pimpish" though (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on August 29, 2006, 03:49:35 pm
Quoting: ianjpage
LOL - is rather "pimpish" though


Nah thats the color change ones Pod found, they gently change through the color spectrum to sooth you as you drive
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 29, 2006, 04:01:31 pm
Quoting: 55starchief
Nah thats the color change ones Pod found, they gently change through the color spectrum to sooth you as you drive




hehehe (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/bling.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 30, 2006, 10:05:49 am
Ok... Underseal.

Is there a way that this can be done with a Spray gun & compressor? what products do you have to use? how good is it? are there difficulties?

The alternative is the Same Hammerite Paint on stuff I used on the Old Car.

Both myself and Shifty are planning on undersealing Cars this month

Also If i could Borrow some more Axle Stands that would be cool
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on August 30, 2006, 10:09:45 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Is there a way that this can be done with a Spray gun & compressor? what products do you have to use? how good is it? are there difficulties?


you can either schultz or wax oil both available from MK paint schultz is the heavier duty of the 2 but also the mesiest
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 30, 2006, 10:15:37 am
Whats the cost like of this schults stuff? is it good? waxoyl seems fine for inners of panels etc to me but not so great for the actual floorpan.

Picked from another forum:
Whats the difference between Schultz and Waxyoy?
Shutz that I've used is a Black spray paint that sticks to anything and sets to a hard, stone chip proof, matt finish.

Waxoyl or the similar Wax Oil copy is waxy oily stuff that forms a layer of greasy crud on the surface of the metal.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 30, 2006, 10:16:38 am
Stupid Proxy Server making double posts!!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 30, 2006, 10:22:13 am
Graeme,
What about POR15? can that be used with a compressor?

Would it be ok to use the Compressor & spay gun at the Barn?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on August 30, 2006, 10:22:41 am
Ok just been over the body shop and this is there recomendation.

3M cavity wax all the open X members and box section would need a couple of cans @ #5 a can

then 3M schultz over everything on the underside for total protection again would need about 6 cans @ #5 each

If you and shifty bought together might be able to get some discount
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 30, 2006, 10:29:27 am
Cool cheers m8, Cavity wax for the inners of doors / Rear Wing cavitys (Behind boot plastics) also i'd assume? or Schultz on that too?

Sounds like a plan to me...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 30, 2006, 01:38:24 pm
Will I need any of this stuff?

http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Schutz-Gun-Kit-Disposable-Heads-Sealey-SG14D;jsessionid=ac112b6b1f4382340a6ebf4d4bbda66cd90a8c463370.e3eTa3aSaxmTe3qQc3yNb3iSci1ynknvrkLOlQzNp65In0?sc=9&category=257

http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Disposable-Heads-for-SG14D-Pack-of-6-Sealey-SG14D-ACC?category=471
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on August 30, 2006, 01:39:47 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Will I need any of this stuff?


Up to you matey, i can try and borrow the one from the bodyshop or you and shifty can go halves
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 30, 2006, 01:52:17 pm
For the price i'd rather not borrow stuff, just incase...

Its £15 for the gun & £10 for the extra set of disposable heads
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 30, 2006, 02:16:28 pm
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double post again!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 30, 2006, 02:17:18 pm
Might try and fit the new exhaust this Saturday, either that or Thursday evening, I don't know how long it will take...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on August 30, 2006, 02:17:51 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Might try and fit the new exhaust this saturday...


personaly i would do that after ou underseal so as not to cover it in schultz
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 30, 2006, 02:18:22 pm
Quoting: 55starchief
personaly i would do that after ou underseal so as not to cover it in schultz


Good thinking Batman...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on August 30, 2006, 06:08:31 pm
be VERY careful to completely cover every inch of the prop too, even a small ammount of shultz on it will create a vibration by throwing it out of balance..

schultz is pretty thick stuff, but is truly excelent.. it can also be over painted, so you can repaint the floorpans afterwards to regain some of that 'as new' look
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on August 30, 2006, 06:10:29 pm
Quoting: philoldsmobile
be VERY careful to completely cover every inch of the prop too, even a small ammount of shultz on it will create a vibration by throwing it out of balance


Your gonna need to mask up quite a bit things like brake lines also need to be visable
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on August 30, 2006, 06:21:04 pm
yup.... t'aint just a point and squirt job..
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on August 30, 2006, 07:04:19 pm
You can get lots of different underseal, oil based ,water based some dry some stay tacky with a certain amount of waxoil in them watch which one you use for what. And you WILL get it every where if the car isnt high enough your face especially. It does burn a bit especially in eye (trust me i know)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on August 30, 2006, 07:07:20 pm
Quoting: Rocky
You can get lots of different underseal


I think hes gonna go with the 3M one as i can get that from my bodyshop. Would guess that hes planning on doing this at my barn where i have a pit and 500mm axle stands
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on August 30, 2006, 07:10:16 pm
3M is a good make, Only thing i wouldnt do is coat the inside panels behind interior with wax oil if you are going to work near it, messy stuff. I noramlly inject it into the sills etc. Alot of a 3rd gen is galvanized anyway.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 30, 2006, 10:00:50 pm
Quoting: Rocky
Alot of a 3rd gen is galvanized anyway.


U sure? A lot of my old one used to be rusty... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on August 31, 2006, 07:22:40 am
Yeah it was but not where it was galvanized,Trouble is alot of people bare metal them not realising it and sand all the coating off.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 31, 2006, 08:39:47 am
What is galvanised on them then? I didn't know any of it was. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif) Learn something new every day!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 05, 2006, 07:55:30 am
Lots and lots of prep work for this then...  will probably take a Day to get everything Masked up properly.

I'm still considering whether or not to use the Paint-on Hammerite goop I have at home, its mugh more precise with a brush and I can take my time over the details more but the application takes longer.  + I could do it at home.

Oh and Rocky, the SFC's aren't going to happen this month, i've been messed around selling the old car so need to sort some bits on that first.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 11, 2006, 10:39:34 am
At Swindon last thursday I realised i'm getting a vibration from the rear end of the Car somewhere.  Suggestions were Wheel Balancing, and Phil suggested it might be the Tail seal or something like that.  However, I popped to BP yesterday to check the tire pressures and the DS Rear was at a measly 13psi  Could this have caused the vibrations?
All tires are now back to 30psi like they should be (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on September 11, 2006, 10:41:53 am
Quoting: FUBAR
DS Rear was at a measly 13psi Could this have caused the vibrations?


Unlikley mate
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 11, 2006, 11:00:39 am
Quoting: 55starchief
Unlikley mate


Hmm, okey dokey.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 25, 2006, 10:27:50 am
Well Last week was successfull as far as the new car goes, everything is now undersealed with POR-15 (which has nearly come off my skin!!) & the new exhaust is fully fitted & sounding Great!!

Piccys:
(The Exhaust pic was just a test-fit so its not fully in place there)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BorlaExhaustTestFit.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/UndersealRearBootFloor.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/UndersealRearDSArch2.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/UndersealRearDSArch.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/UndersealRearDS.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/UndersealRearPSArch.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/UndersealRearPS.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/UndersealRear.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>We also got the D/S Mirror changed and most of the 3rd Brake light fixed too.  Although he won't read this many many thanks to Shifty for sacrificing a week of leave to help me out last week, it was very much appreciated and good fun too [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

I still have the new Door-Seals to fit yet...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 25, 2006, 10:44:41 am
Looks like a very professional job, mate.

Very clean. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

EDIT - Will be buying some POR-15 for the Caddy me thinks. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 25, 2006, 10:53:52 am
Quoting: Roadkill
EDIT - Will be buying some POR-15 for the Caddy me thinks.


It really is Fantastic stuff, I just wiped the floorpan off with a small towell (read Nappy!) before painting to clean it up which worked very well.
Advise though: WEAR GLOVES!! and something Longsleved.  And the paintbrushes are single use only!! even though its very messy i'd still recommend painting it on rather than spraying TBH...

I have an unopened Pint tin left over m8, won't be enough for the whole job but will help, you can have it cheap.  I used about 1 1/2 Pints to do the underside of my car and that was a very comprehensive coat.  There are a couple of small bits I couldn't get too but i'll find a way!!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 25, 2006, 11:05:33 am
Having seen the underside of both cars I fear the Caddy will be A-L-O-T more difficult to tackle with a paint brush alone.

Maybe a combination of the two.

Also the floor pan is like to require more then just a wipe-down. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on September 25, 2006, 11:31:42 am
Probably a good Idea for me to do the duster while the transmission and gubbin's is off the car (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 25, 2006, 11:36:53 am
Quoting: Incursus
Probably a good Idea for me to do the duster while the transmission and gubbin's is off the car


Yeah above the Driveshaft was the most awkward part on mine, the back section was made a million times easier by not having any exhaust in the way too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) + it ment I could get all the heatshields off easily to seal behind them too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 25, 2006, 11:37:49 am
Heatshields = Extra weight.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 25, 2006, 11:41:16 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Heatshields = Extra weight.


Heatshields = Necessary (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

also very light (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 25, 2006, 11:44:39 am
Quoting: FUBAR
also very light


Mine were very rusty !
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 25, 2006, 11:52:08 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Mine were very rusty !


Mine are Galvanised & painted
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 25, 2006, 11:56:22 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Galvanised & painted


Overkill. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 25, 2006, 12:20:05 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Overkill.  


Well, they were only Galvanised until last week... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) now they've got Plasticote Hot Paint on them
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 25, 2006, 12:23:13 pm
Uber Overkill, then. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on September 25, 2006, 12:57:37 pm
Hmm looks very nice mate, must think about checking if the cobra been sealed or not.......
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on October 09, 2006, 12:41:20 pm
I reckon I need a couple of these for the IROC...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEVY-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z28-CORVETTE-DOOR-LOCK-ACTUATOR_W0QQitemZ290035969770QQihZ019QQcategoryZ33696QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The Central Locking doesn't lock the drivers side door anymore as it moves but doesn't have the strength anymore to lock it.

if i'm going to do 1 I may as well change both... (Ryan Logic)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on October 09, 2006, 12:50:10 pm
You're spending a fortune on that thing . . . . I thought you said it was all sorted when you got it !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on October 09, 2006, 12:59:55 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
I thought you said it was all sorted when you got it !


The exhaust was necessary, but I did buy a pricey & shiny (but worth it IMO) one and the steering wheel was just shiny things. the door seals need doing & this actuator has just started playing up.

still better than the old one.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on October 23, 2006, 12:01:33 pm
Winter's nearly here...
As my car will be living outside for most of winter i've decided I need to get a good, water & weatherproof cover to prevent it spending the next 5 months constantly wet, so just sent an e-mail off to Covercraft asking for a quote for one of their weathershield covers.  I know its not going to be cheap but i think I might be asking for some Early Xmas Money for this one...

Oh and semi related to the above, when I left yours last night Dean there was water in the Front Dome light lens in my car, this has never happened before but might be something to do with it being parked on flat ground.  So that needs investigating pretty sharpish!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on October 23, 2006, 12:08:14 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
so just sent an e-mail off to Covercraft asking for a quote for one of their weathershield covers.


That's what I use and it was about £350 , I'll check when I get home !

Fit and finish is excellent (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on October 23, 2006, 12:20:08 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Oh and semi related to the above, when I left yours last night Dean there was water in the Front Dome light lens in my car, this has never happened before but might be something to do with it being parked on flat ground. So that needs investigating pretty sharpish!


T-Top seals, then ?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on October 23, 2006, 12:35:06 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
T-Top seals, then ?


I hope not because they are expensive!, but they look & feel like new, and it wasn't leaking though the actual T-Top but seemingly through the top of the light housing... + the headliner was completely dry, even the very edges of it under the light housing. Its strange but as I said its never done it before, but the roof drains very well being parked on my drive. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Quoting: F Body
That's what I use and it was about £350 , I'll check when I get home !

Fit and finish is excellent


'thats good to know, I know you highly recommend them, but as you say, they aren't cheap!, but you get what you pay for (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on October 23, 2006, 01:23:54 pm
It might well be a leak else where mate and the water iss tracking along the wire and dripping of into the dome light. Had this on another car where the hole letting the water in was on the other side of the car. Places to check are any screws that go into plastic threaded inserts as the water loves to gt through by running down the threads
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Pod on October 23, 2006, 01:39:40 pm
Could it just be condensation?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on October 23, 2006, 01:41:49 pm
No, the recess in the lens was full, I only noticed it because it overflowed & dripped when I went round corners, I stopped at the shop on the way out of Furzton & emptied the lens out in the carpark (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) I had to do it again when I got home so water must be collecting somewhere up there...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on October 23, 2006, 06:26:00 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Yeah above the Driveshaft was the most awkward part on mine


That's why mine isn't done properly up there !
I'm sure it's not even a rust area never mind major rust area (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR
Mine are Galvanised & painted


Ditto.

Quoting: F Body
That's what I use and it was about £350 , I'll check when I get home !


It was £310 on 3rd June '03.

Nice underseal job (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on October 24, 2006, 10:12:07 am
Quote came back, a Custom Fitted Weathershield Cover for the IROC from Covercraft is £360
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on October 24, 2006, 10:25:23 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Quote came back, a Custom Fitted Weathershield Cover for the IROC from Covercraft is £360


I should really do the same if I keep the Z28 - but that's alot of cash !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

What guarantee do they give it ? 12 months ? . . .
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on October 24, 2006, 10:44:19 am
Their other ones which aren't quite as storm resistant are cheaper, but there are also cheaper brands. I'm not sure on the guarantee... but Martyn has had his for 3 years by the sounds of it and last time I saw it it still looked new.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on October 24, 2006, 10:50:42 am
I would have a look at california car cover http://www.calcarcover.com/ all there covers have 4 year guarantee and the weather stateside is far more severe than here. Im sure carl could get one for you if you asked him. Go for something like the storm weave
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on October 24, 2006, 11:23:49 am
STORMWEAVE  
 
Limited 4-year Warranty
Price: $199.99

For the Camaro . . . . . . Nothing for the Caddy, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on October 24, 2006, 11:24:53 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Nothing for the Caddy, though.


nah that would be a custom same as my pontiac
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on October 24, 2006, 11:27:31 am
Quoting: 55starchief
nah that would be a custom same as my pontiac


They do from a '61 Caddy Sedan DeVille . . . Just not a '58 . . . Which is surprising as I'd've guessed that the '59 would be very popular . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on October 24, 2006, 11:28:56 am
Quoting: Cal Car Cover
   If you own a pre-1965 vehicle and would like to order a cover, please call 800-423-5525 and ask for sales.


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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on October 24, 2006, 11:38:20 am
Ahh, I just went to "select a vehicle" . .

Thankfully the Cadillac has a home anyway . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on October 24, 2006, 11:39:03 am
The only problem I've had with mine is if it's very windy, it has a strap under the middle of it but it allows the whole cover to get inflated.
It can't blow off but I'd see if they could add some addition straps to remove the problem.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on October 24, 2006, 11:39:50 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Thankfully the Cadillac has a home anyway . . .


Same as the poncho but im still gonna get a carcoon for it when its in the garage
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on October 24, 2006, 11:40:44 am
I'm just gonna chuck a heater in the garage over winter.

I don't wanna spoil her. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on October 24, 2006, 11:43:48 am
Quoting: Roadkill
I'm just gonna chuck a heater in the garage over winter.


Given the current price of Electricity it's probably cheaper to buy the cover (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on October 24, 2006, 11:57:55 am
Quoting: F Body
Given the current price of Electricity it's probably cheaper to buy the cover


True, but a cover won't keep her warm . . . .

I suppose I could re-direct the central heating out there . . . ?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on October 24, 2006, 12:07:38 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
I suppose I could re-direct the central heating out there . . . ?


I can imagine it now... "why is it so cold in here..." says Sammy, "oh i've had to move the bedroom radiator to the garage to keep the caddy warm..." (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on October 24, 2006, 12:08:48 pm
Quoting: F Body
The only problem I've had with mine is if it's very windy, it has a strap under the middle of it but it allows the whole cover to get inflated.
It can't blow off but I'd see if they could add some addition straps to remove the problem.


Its quite good on our drive in that respect, because of the houses & the Garage its quite sheltered there from prevailing wind.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on October 24, 2006, 12:12:25 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
I suppose I could re-direct the central heating out there . . . ?


you would have to fix the heating first (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on October 24, 2006, 12:24:51 pm
Quoting: 55starchief
you would have to fix the heating first


It works . . . . . . It's just not controllable . . . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Giblets on October 24, 2006, 12:28:47 pm
You not allowed to use the garage then Fubar?

I'd use some of that money to bribe your parents rather than pay for a cover!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on October 24, 2006, 12:39:09 pm
Quoting: Giblets
You not allowed to use the garage then Fubar?

I'd use some of that money to bribe your parents rather than pay for a cover!


The thought had crossed my mind...
I've been using the Neighbours Garage for the past 8 months, but on friday Brian comes back from Germany as his contract will have ended and will be bringing his BMW back with him (Which reminds me, but get them a thankyou gift...).  Ian is very posessive over our Garage and if he had his way I wouldn't even have the IROC but he can fk right off on that one, however my mum does understand and is sympathetic to my cause so puts her car outside sometimes, but after a few days it always results in moaning & wingeing from Ian.

If only I had a better job & earned more then I'd have my own place with my own Garage, however I can't see that happening any time soon (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on October 24, 2006, 12:54:35 pm
Maybe murder your step Dad ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(joking, honestly)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on October 24, 2006, 01:04:32 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Maybe murder your step Dad ?  

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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on October 24, 2006, 05:13:33 pm
Quoting: 55starchief
Quoting: Roadkill
I suppose I could re-direct the central heating out there . . . ?

you would have to fix the heating first


hear hear (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on October 24, 2006, 05:20:00 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
If only I had a better job & earned more then I'd have my own place with my own Garage, however I can't see that happening any time soon


dang, i know that one only too well....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Giblets on October 24, 2006, 05:37:21 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Quoting: Roadkill
Maybe murder your step Dad ?
 


Just say the word mate. I know some 'people'.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quick and painless, but always professional - thats my motto
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 01, 2006, 06:38:16 pm
Bits arrived from MDM toay (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/NewBitsfromMDM01-11-06.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>1 new 5.7L Tuned Port Injection Emblem for the rear bumper1 new Nose emblem1 new ash tray insert (because I don't have one)1 new fog light switch1 new replacement aluminium dizzy cover1 brand spanking new drivers side seat belt buckle [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 01, 2006, 07:20:04 pm
Nothing is ever simple is it...

turns out the built in washers on the bolts attaching the plastic dizzy cover to the plenum are too big to fit in the recesses in the aluminium cover... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

so, does anyone have 3 of these:
0.7mm metric thread (or 36G) 1/2" long (thread) bolts with a 7 or 8mm diam. head, preferably with a nice pattern like a torx (stock) or allen pattern that won't rust that I could have?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on November 01, 2006, 07:31:32 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
0.7mm


Is that pitch? What diameter?

If thay are M3 then we have some stainless alan cap heads at work...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 01, 2006, 07:39:32 pm
hmm yeah 0.7mm is the thread pitch, diam is... either 1/8" or 4mm I can't tell.

you can have one to compare too if you like...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on November 01, 2006, 07:42:30 pm
M4x0.7mm sounds probable.... Will have a look...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on November 01, 2006, 07:46:30 pm
If they are M4x .7 i have about 500,000 at work chemi black button head and countersunk with torx heads also have M3 socket cap
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 01, 2006, 07:50:18 pm
Can't be countersunk as they won't fit the cover.  Blacks ok, but stainless is better... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(god aren't I being picky with peoples generosity!)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on November 01, 2006, 08:09:44 pm
I also have a full set of s/steel at the barn all sizes from 2mm-6mm and .5 sizes but they are screw head not torx
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 03, 2006, 06:38:54 pm
any luck guys?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on November 03, 2006, 07:02:20 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
any luck guys?


you didnt want black, as i said i have 1000's at work in M4 and M3 socket and button head all in torx most are s/steel then chemi blacked
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on November 03, 2006, 07:07:13 pm
I found some bright zing button heads M4 x 8mm, but I forgot to bring them home... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 04, 2006, 12:41:04 am
Quoting: Titsy
I found some bright zing button heads M4 x 8mm, but I forgot to bring them home...

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
No worries m8.

As for tonight's trip out in the car.  The Starter Motor is playing up again, this time refusing to kick in outside Xscape so I think its about time to get it changed, I think its what Deano said when it last did it about the solenoid not working properly...
Looking through the Summit Catalogue that arrived today (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) there's a lot of choice, how can I find out which ones fit? there's different numbers of flywheel teeth and different bolt patterns... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Also is there any particular brands anyone can recomend? a higher torque one would be good but I don't want to spend a total fortune on one, i'm also going to fit a heat shield because the car will eventually get headers so may as well fit the shield now when I have the thing off anyway.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on November 04, 2006, 10:32:04 am
I had one in stock a while back can get one in if needed mate 5.7 ones are pretty common
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 10, 2007, 01:41:18 pm
Well, Its been a while since I put anything in here so I thought i'd type up an IROC latest news type doobry.

The Starter motor was changed with relative ease once we figured out which way round it had to be to get past the exhaust i'm not sure if the pipes are bigger on the 5.7 but it literally scraped both sides to get it out.  There was a mild problem with starting again around Xmas time but that just turned out to be dirty contacts on the VATS system inside the Lock Barrel so once PhilO had suggested i check that, it was fixed with a quick wiggle of a cotton bud (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

As for whats happening with her this year (the first part anyway) i'm currently saving up a bit of Cash so that Rocky can have her in to respray the damaged paint on the Nose (Sometime in March if thats alright m8, will arrange nearer the time)
I'm also planning on having the Shifter & Handbrake handles re-trimmed in leather as they are quite worn at the moment and the shifter one is a bit ripped.

I am at the moment Trying to get the D/S Foglight working again after it blew the new bulb the 2nd time they were turned on (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)  I think its just moisture & stuff but we shall see, at £11 a bulb I don't want to be blowing loads of them!

The doors will be dismantled when I can get hold of a pair of new Lock Actuators for the power locks as one of them is pretty weak, at this time the new Door Seals and Window sweeps will be fitted, as well as the little Chrome Lock thingys I have for the inside.   Part of this refurb will also include sealing the inner door skins in the lower part of the door (not blocking the drain Holes I know) and also grease up all the window mechanisms.   The hope is that i will only have to have the doors dismantled once.

In addition I still have new emblems for the Nose and "5.7 Tuned Port injection" for the rear bumper to fit before the shows start. as well as a couple of the plastic panels for under the dash.
Oh and clean the carpets too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Then before summer kicks off in earnest there will be a full service too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Then she'll be ready for the show season!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/fubar.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mkb.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on January 10, 2007, 06:11:01 pm
damn... where's the green with envy smilie...



shead a tear for this one (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/philo.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 11, 2007, 10:31:44 am
After chatting to Rafe you may be the only Third Gen owner soon, Mate. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on January 11, 2007, 11:01:46 am
Quoting: Roadkill

After chatting to Rafe you may be the only Third Gen owner soon, Mate.


oh....he comtemplating selling then?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 11, 2007, 11:31:07 am
Quoting: ianjpage
oh....he comtemplating selling then?


Yeah, work is changing his mileage allowance or something  . . . He's after more of a Sedan to replace it with . . .

I suggested a Impala. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 11, 2007, 01:48:10 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
After chatting to Rafe you may be the only Third Gen owner soon, Mate.  


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) Really? that will be a first!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 11, 2007, 02:09:54 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Really? that will be a first!


Yeah.

Funny . . the difference a year makes . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on January 11, 2007, 02:10:44 pm
yup and now we are over run with mustangs (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 11, 2007, 02:12:13 pm
And you thought it couldn't get any worse. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on January 11, 2007, 06:12:37 pm
Thats alright i may have another car next week(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 11, 2007, 06:42:46 pm
Quoting: Rocky
Thats alright i may have another car next week


 Oh yeah do tell...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on January 11, 2007, 08:48:38 pm
Quoting: 55starchief
yup and now we are over run with mustangs


There's still a few of us to fend of the Ford boys... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/titsy.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/fubar.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/vicky.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/jamieg.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/baz.gif) to name a few...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on January 12, 2007, 05:19:05 pm
Quoting: ianjpage
oh....he comtemplating selling then?






(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) T T T T T T Temptaion? oddly enough, i had a dream a few weeks a go where i bought rafes camaro!..  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on January 12, 2007, 05:59:20 pm
Quoting: philoldsmobile
i had a dream a few weeks a go where i bought rafe a bunch of flowers



(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 05, 2007, 01:19:12 pm
Rocky

I have the money saved up now (I think) for you to repair the damaged paintwork on the nose of the IROC.

What sort of timescale are we looking at when i'll be able to bring the car down to you?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 05, 2007, 06:20:04 pm
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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on February 05, 2007, 06:24:19 pm
Im booked up for at least a month and a half at the moment the only other thing is if you can remove the spoiler and i can paint it off the car so you can bring it in anytime.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 05, 2007, 06:27:14 pm
I don't need it doing right now so I can wait until you can have the car, but i'd like it done before the shows start again in april.  Definately would like to reserve a slot though (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

If you remember there's a section right below the P/S headlight pocket too so removing the spoiler won't be an option...

Might have the piccys somewhere...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 13, 2007, 07:22:53 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/bump.gif)

M8, any ideas when you can fit her in?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on February 13, 2007, 07:25:45 pm
Whens good for you? Should be finishing a 70's camaro this week, then just got bike bits to do for a while, Havnt heard back about a respray so could probably get you in before that.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 13, 2007, 07:30:43 pm
cool, how long would you need the car for?

Will try & see if Phil can pop down with me to give me a lift back, weekend drop of would be better for me
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on February 13, 2007, 08:17:07 pm
Would need the car around a week, Can drop it off on a Saturday if you want probably in a couple of weeks would be fine if thats ok.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 13, 2007, 08:20:14 pm
Yep thats fine by me, how does Saturday 24th Feb sound?  Hopefully then i could pick it up the following saturday intime for the MKB meet.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on February 13, 2007, 08:36:42 pm
Ryan any chance of seeing some pics of you car mate. i've only ever seen the one with them both parked in your drive way
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 13, 2007, 08:41:30 pm
Quoting: Fin170703
Ryan any chance of seeing some pics of you car mate. i've only ever seen the one with them both parked in your drive way


Sure (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

[img]http://www.mkb.cc/gallery/albums/MKB%20Meet%20-%20Sep%2006/MKB_Meet_Sept_06_Pic_008.JPG\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://www.mkb.cc/gallery/albums/Graeme/October%2006/MKB_Meet_10-06_004.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BlackousFitted.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/SidemarkersL.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/IROCHome5.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BAFinished2Night.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BAFinished2Daylight.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://www.mkb.cc/gallery/albums/userpics/10010/P9030011.JPG\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 13, 2007, 08:42:33 pm
Oh and 1 more of work in progress fitting the borla exhaust...

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BorlaExhaustTestFit.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on February 13, 2007, 11:05:47 pm
Did you buy it like it or do the work yourself

I love the top left pic (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on February 13, 2007, 11:07:08 pm
How much does something like that cost

Dont worry if you dont want to disclose that , just interested
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 13, 2007, 11:21:22 pm
Quoting: Fin170703
Did you buy it like it or do the work yourself


The only things i've changed are
the dash lights / overlays
steering wheel (old one was worn)
Rear Light Blackouts
Clear Sidemarkers
and fitted the Borla Catback system.

Basically the outstanding condition is down to previous owners & down to me to maintain (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Credit goes to Rocky & his Uncle for finding such a good example & importing it.

Quoting: Fin170703
How much does something like that cost


I'm happy with what i paid, lets put it that way (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)

Apart from the big stereo & 95,000 miles less (not that you'd know) this car is an exact clone of mine...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=170080009266&rd=1,1
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 13, 2007, 11:23:16 pm
Quoting: Fin170703
I love the top left pic


That is my background at work, I do find myself staring at that instead of working occasionally LOL(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on February 13, 2007, 11:26:13 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Apart from the big stereo & 95,000 miles less (not that you'd know) this car is an exact clone of mine...


Maybe you should buy a spare...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on February 13, 2007, 11:26:35 pm
Quoting: Fin170703
How much does something like that cost


having seen Ryans car in the flesh many times, i'd personaly expect to pay topside of £6000 to get anything as good...


the opportunity to own a car like this doesn't come along too often now, and cars in that sort of condition are hard to come by, dont confuse ryans with most other thirdgens, what you see in the pics really is how good car is...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 13, 2007, 11:29:49 pm
Quoting: Titsy
Maybe you should by a spare...


PMSL (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Phil really would kill me then!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on February 13, 2007, 11:31:25 pm
And have them both...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on February 13, 2007, 11:33:03 pm
awwwwww man, i miss mine....   (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cry.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on February 14, 2007, 08:57:49 am
Yeah lovely car that one. So it was an import from the states ? I've recently been toying with the idea of importing a early 50's stepside but the logistics scare the hell out of me.

cant wait to see it in the flesh. mine will probably look a nail in comparison but its still a third gen and i love it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on February 14, 2007, 09:06:16 am
Quoting: Fin170703
I've recently been toying with the idea of importing a early 50's stepside but the logistics scare the hell out of me.


Why? its as easy as 123 mate. Just get a good shipping company and your sorted. I used www.transoceanauto.com to ship my 55 pontiac across. They dealt with everything on the US side including paying on collection of the vehile and making sure the vehicle wasnt stolen or had any outstanding warrants etc. They even stored the vehicle until a container share was available.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on February 14, 2007, 09:35:04 am
Yeah people do say that its really easy but its more the problem of finding the right car in the first place.

I'd be gutted if i imported a car only to find it wasn't in the condition i thought it was. maybe the answer is to go over there for a couple of weeks and hunt for one. I know you can get companies to go and look at the car butt he prices they charge are very high and if it takes 4 or 5 times to find the right car you could find yourself paying an extra $1500 in their charges
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on February 14, 2007, 09:38:19 am
Quoting: Fin170703
maybe the answer is to go over there for a couple of weeks and hunt for one.


That's the only way I'd go about buying a car.  I'd not really entertain getting one unseen.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on February 14, 2007, 10:51:12 am
Quoting: Jamieg285

That's the only way I'd go about buying a car. I'd not really entertain getting one unseen.



I bought mine from pictures and comunication with the seller. If you find the right seller its as easy as that.

If you want a 50's car be prepared to take what you find. Stick to dry states like Arizona or texas, be careful of LA as its by the coast and salt corrosion can be a problem. Mine came from georgia a semi dry state and i got lucky with only a small amount of rust on the floor pan
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on February 14, 2007, 10:55:08 am
Quoting: 55starchief
I bought mine from pictures and comunication with the seller. If you find the right seller its as easy as that.


True, but I think it's fair to say you were buying a car that you were intending to restore, so overall condition wasn't a big issue.

If you're buying a car that you don't want to have to do a lot to, a viewing would be a must, IMO.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on February 14, 2007, 11:13:54 am
Quoting: Jamieg285

True, but I think it's fair to say you were buying a car that you were intending to restore, so overall condition wasn't a big issue.

If you're buying a car that you don't want to have to do a lot to, a viewing would be a must, IMO.



If your after 50's metal unless your paying big $$$$ its not gonna be perfect. I paid £9k for the poncho which wasnt a bad price but if it had been £30k which is what it currently stands me then i would have expected it to be perfect
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on February 14, 2007, 07:58:22 pm
Most of our cars come from california, The Iroc was from somewhere else cant remember now where it was but was bought unseen
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 15, 2007, 12:31:32 am
Quoting: Rocky
The Iroc was from somewhere else cant remember now where it was but was bought unseen


was bought from a Dealership in Menominee, Michigan (49858), I looked it up on Google earth, its right up on the lakes.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on February 15, 2007, 09:10:09 am
That was it, was the owners brothers car.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on February 15, 2007, 09:55:22 pm
Do you still want to bring the car in mate
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 15, 2007, 10:19:27 pm
yes please, Sat 24th ok?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 15, 2007, 10:20:24 pm
Quoting: Rocky
That was it, was the owners brothers car.


I keep meaning to write to him asking if he has any of the documents or history etc... might just phone the dealership... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Fieldy on February 15, 2007, 10:25:34 pm
superb car you got there mate
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 15, 2007, 10:27:06 pm
Quoting: Fieldy
superb car you got there mate


Cheers m8 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) I have to keep it that way :polishing: (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mechanic2.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Fieldy on February 15, 2007, 10:40:14 pm
its worth it!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 15, 2007, 10:52:01 pm
Quoting: Rocky
The Iroc was from somewhere else cant remember now where it was but was bought unseen

Quoting: FUBAR
was bought from a Dealership in Menominee, Michigan (49858),



Just looked at their website (never occured to me before) http://www.lindnersorenson.com/

Judging by the cars they sell no wonder you bought it sight unseen!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on February 16, 2007, 09:15:17 am
Quoting: FUBAR
yes please, Sat 24th ok?

 OK with me (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 16, 2007, 01:22:27 pm
Quoting: Rocky
OK with me


Cool, does it matter morning or afternoon?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on February 16, 2007, 10:48:27 pm
My old man will be there from 11.00 ish til 2.00.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 16, 2007, 10:49:07 pm
okies, i'll make sure i'm there between those 2 times
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 02, 2007, 01:37:52 am
Shiny Things!!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/DSC00422.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on March 02, 2007, 09:25:39 am
looking good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on March 02, 2007, 02:14:22 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on March 02, 2007, 08:46:29 pm
*dribble*



i dont think a finer yank has been made, ever.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 29, 2007, 08:39:18 am
Right Guys...

I'm looking for a NOS Rear Bumper Emblem...  like this one below but in Silver with the Bowtie still in Red.

(http://www385.pair.com/jackj/262.JPG)

I don't think the silver / red ones are still avaliable from GM, Modern Day Muscle doesn't seem to stock them and there's none at all on ebay US.

Does anyone have any ideas?  Carl, is there anywhere local to you that might have some? or even One?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on March 29, 2007, 01:53:30 pm
Like :

(http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/ProductImages/emblems/SILVERIROCEMB.jpg)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/index.asp
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 29, 2007, 02:34:42 pm
ish... they don't look quite right as they're reproduction ones...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on March 29, 2007, 05:38:42 pm
I will call round some GM dealers see if they have any surplus stock sitting around but i do need one too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on March 29, 2007, 05:42:16 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
ish... they don't look quite right as they're reproduction ones...


Ah the F Body perfection bug, I know it well (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)


F Body Management say's " Well it looks exactly the same to me " (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Well it isn't and I don't care how much cheaper it is (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/slap.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on April 02, 2007, 08:41:45 am
Quoting: FUBAR
ish... they don't look quite right as they're reproduction ones...


Your in risk of crossing that sad, thin line, there, Ryan . . . . Watch out  . . . Or you could end up like Martyn . . .  Worse maybe 'cos you'd have been infected earlier on in life.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Oh, God . . . Think of the Children !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on April 02, 2007, 09:34:54 am
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 10, 2007, 11:46:36 am
Update.

The last week has been interesting, Jobs that have been done are:

Earlier:
Re-Greased all steering linkages
Fitted new RAD Cap (was a difficult one that!!)
Checked all fluid levels / quality, all of which were fine.

Friday:
Changed Oil & Filter
Checked & Bled the Brakes, apparantly they are the more modern crossover type so you only have to do the rears... always a bonus!

Yesterday:
Changed inner & outer window sweeps on both doors.
Changed Door Seals.  We'll see how long these last as it turns out they don't have the plastic reinforcers in the end mouldings which i'm not very happy about (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)
Greased up window mechanisms.
Greased Door Hinges.
Checked & cleaned all other door related stuff which was accessible.


All in all its been a good week for the car (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) just needs a clean ready for the show now (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
And as an Added Bonus the 5.7 TPI managed 27.66 MPG on the run down to Southampton & back over the weekend too which was nice (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on April 10, 2007, 04:29:01 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
27.66 MPG


:jealous:(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on April 10, 2007, 07:02:14 pm
yep i need to get some service bits done now that my box is sorted i'm going to give my car / engine a bloody good clean this weekend and see what it comes up like , anyone recommend some engine cleaning products.

i've taken a befroe pic , so i'll post the after pic next monday

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/craigthejones/sensors005.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/craigthejones/sensors006.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 11, 2007, 11:04:50 am
Quoting: Fin170703
anyone recommend some engine cleaning products.


If its all greasy & manky anything with a GUNK label on it should do the trick, but I just use autoglym bits for cleaning.

Silicone spray will bring up all the hoses & plastics really nice too, there's loads of brands of that.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 14, 2007, 09:00:11 pm
Well i've spent this evening under the car changing the Sparkplugs...

Coming home from London on saturday (as SOON as we dropped Andy off) the car started sounding really rough on & off, sometimes at idle, always under acceleration sometimes while cruising, so after narrowing it down to electrics extremely quickly tonights job was to change the plugs...

I did the whole lot from the underside with shiny new NGK's & it took 1hr 30 mins approx, not bad for a first time I think (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

So she's happily back on 8cylinders tonight & is nicely quicker too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

2 of the champion plugs (cyl 2 & 3) were really badly fowled up, 1 totally closed so I reckon i've occasionally had 7 cylinders for a little while & not really noticed... dropping to a probable 6 was extremely noticable!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on May 14, 2007, 09:04:18 pm
i bought my V6 ness to the car! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on May 14, 2007, 10:09:16 pm
klew glad to hear all ok now then (i take it it is??)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 14, 2007, 10:14:22 pm
Quoting: ianjpage
(i take it it is??)


Indeedy

1 very happy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/fubar.gif)... 1 Extremely happy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lazy.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on May 14, 2007, 10:39:06 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on May 15, 2007, 01:36:32 pm
Just seen this and realised i never did get round to cleaning the negine bay (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 15, 2007, 05:20:35 pm
OK, looking at my RPO codes today showed that on my sticker is "D88" which means "Stripe, Hood and Deck Lid"... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Did my car used to have stripes before it was sprayed? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)  does anyone know what this means? as I wasn't aware you could order stripes for the hood & deck lid in 1989???  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on May 15, 2007, 05:29:52 pm
D88 means the lower stripes around the ground effects.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 15, 2007, 05:31:22 pm
But there's one for that "86A Stripe, Two Tone Silver/ Black "  and the other one says hood / deck lid (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 15, 2007, 05:33:04 pm
there's also a load I can't identify...

E72
IP2
U29
VA6
V73

1AY
1SD
1SZ
1SR
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on May 15, 2007, 05:35:07 pm
Dont know mate my parts catalog says D88 was on a 87 car as the lower stripe(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 15, 2007, 05:36:51 pm
fair doos, not exactly like its anything to really worry about anyway.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on May 15, 2007, 07:01:52 pm
I've got D88 on mine (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on May 15, 2007, 07:02:48 pm
I've got electric drivers seat but not passenger. Did the passenger seat ever come with an electric option ??
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 15, 2007, 07:07:27 pm
Quoting: CJ-IROCZ
Did the passenger seat ever come with an electric option ??


Nope
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on May 15, 2007, 07:27:40 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
there's also a load I can't identify...

E72
IP2
U29
VA6
V73

1AY
1SD
1SZ
1SR




E72 =  BODY LENGTH INCR 18 INCH  
IP2 =  TRIM INTERIOR DESIGN (P2)
U29 =  LAMP INTR, I/P COURTESY
VA6 =  LANGUAGE LABEL ITALIAN (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
V73 =  VEHICLE STATEMENT USA/CANADA

1AY =  ORDER MODIFICATION STOCK
1SD =  PACKAGE OPTION 04    Edit : Found a price for this one $2,858.
1SZ =  DISCOUNT OPTION PACKAGE
1SR =  PACKAGE OPTION 16

Really difficult to identify individual option packages because they varied year by year and even dealer by dealer (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Pod on May 15, 2007, 08:18:05 pm
Quoting: F Body
E72 = BODY LENGTH INCR 18 INCH


Does that mean it's longer than a normal one? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 15, 2007, 11:18:13 pm
Quoting: Pod
Does that mean it's longer than a normal one?  


Na I think its a standard code... the 18" is probably just the nosecone anyway (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Quoting: F Body
1SD = PACKAGE OPTION 04 Edit : Found a price for this one $2,858.


I sort of knew this anyway, basically because (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/fubar.gif) has so many shiny upgrades that someone ticked a lot of option boxes about the only one not ticked was the G92 option.  This however suits me fine TBH (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 16, 2007, 08:49:11 pm
Just a note to Say the IROC Passed its MOT today with flying colours (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on July 16, 2007, 08:49:49 pm
Quoting: FUBAR

Just a note to Say the IROC Passed its MOT today with flying colours


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 16, 2007, 09:45:21 pm
not really a suprise TBH, there really cant be many better ones about, so its not like MOT ing the average 18 year old car..




sell it and i'll shoot you!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on July 16, 2007, 09:47:28 pm
Quoting: philoldsmobile
sell it and i'll shoot you!


Kettle and Teapot (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/hunter.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 16, 2007, 09:51:13 pm
mine wasn't as special or as perfect as (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lazy.gif) car..
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Giblets on July 17, 2007, 12:02:54 pm
Quoting: philoldsmobile
sell it and i'll shoot you!


I've heard similar comments.

So far, so good.

I can thank the slumping property market for that!

MOT for me tomorrow. Fingers crossed!

Should be OK as Rocky got her through with a couple of minor tweaks last year. Just hope the stuff I can't see checks out OK.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on July 17, 2007, 06:41:49 pm
saw underneath of ryans car at the mot, very clean and tidy,(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
we should have took some pics ryan...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Finlay on August 15, 2007, 12:53:16 pm
Ryan....

3" tube now in stock. All on its way over to you for del tomorrow

Cheers
Fin
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on August 15, 2007, 01:31:58 pm
Quoting: Finlay
Ryan....

3" tube now in stock. All on its way over to you for del tomorrow



That'll be one shiney very strong bed (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shag.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 15, 2007, 06:09:57 pm
Quoting: Finlay
Ryan....

3" tube now in stock. All on its way over to you for del tomorrow

Cheers
Fin


Thanks M8!


Quoting: F Body
That'll be one shiney very strong bed


Not anymore i'm afraid... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on August 15, 2007, 06:18:03 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Not anymore i'm afraid...


You don't mean......................................


I hope Butterfly hasn't has flown away (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Long distance loving either makes or breaks a relationship, now if Management was 50 miles I'm be in heaven (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: HardRockCamaro on August 15, 2007, 07:11:12 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Right Guys...

I'm looking for a NOS Rear Bumper Emblem...  like this one below but in Silver with the Bowtie still in Red.



I don't think the silver / red ones are still avaliable from GM, Modern Day Muscle doesn't seem to stock them and there's none at all on ebay US.

Does anyone have any ideas?  Carl, is there anywhere local to you that might have some? or even One?



You've got almost no chance.
That particular emblem is rare and unfortunatly mine also requires one.

It is out of stock at all GM dealers and in GM's warehouse. The restoration specialists, who often just get their stuff from GM warehouse anyway, also don't have any.

The last one I found on EBay (some time ago to be honest) went for $100, more than I was prepared to pay.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: HardRockCamaro on August 15, 2007, 08:09:45 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
there's also a load I can't identify...

E72
IP2
U29
VA6
V73

1AY
1SD
1SZ
1SR


Are you 100% sure you're reading these correctly?

For example, E72 is used for the 18inch body length extension, clearly not an option on a Camaro, but E7Z is speedometer adapter/sensor delete.

IP2 - Custom leather trim I *think*.  It's certainly related to interior trim design.

U29 - LAMP, INTR I/P, COURTESY

VA6 - No idea.  Are you sure it's not VAN as in Van Nuys?  Or do you already have that one?

V73 is I *think* fixed antenna

1AY is stock order processing code.  Not sure on this one.  I *think* it means it is a dealer ordered vehicle and 1AZ would mean customer ordered.

1SD is likely a group of unrelated items that form a packge for ease of ordering, stuff that is popular or whatever.  These could change not only year on year but sometimes mid year.  There is 1SA, 1SB, 1SC etc.  I imagine 1SD is just about every option going, which probably triggered the other option codes.  I believe they may be related to the Package groups 1, 2 and 3.  Never heard of 4 though, you sure it's not 1SB?...

1SZ is normally a discount package (std GM code for one anyway).  Option Group Savings.

1SR - No idea, again I'd check that you have that right.




And from a previous post of yours:

D88 could actually be DD8?
Which is the auto-dimming rear view mirror.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 15, 2007, 11:25:45 pm
Quoting: HardRockCamaro
U29 - LAMP, INTR I/P, COURTESY


Might explain why mine has 2 roof dome lights... which i've never seen on any other 3rd gen but sure is nice (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Quoting: HardRockCamaro
V73 is I *think* fixed antenna

It does have a fixed antenna... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)

Quoting: HardRockCamaro
VA6 - No idea. Are you sure it's not VAN as in Van Nuys? Or do you already have that one?


The production location is identified by one of the VIN digits is it not? It was a California built car I think.

as for the rest, fair doos. mostly ordering related stuff
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 15, 2007, 11:27:02 pm
Quoting: HardRockCamaro
I believe they may be related to the Package groups 1, 2 and 3.


Mine is a Package 3 car... according to the brochure I have (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on August 16, 2007, 07:43:17 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Mine is a Package 3 car... according to the brochure I have


But remember :

Quoting: F Body
Really difficult to identify individual option packages because they varied year by year and even dealer by dealer (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: HardRockCamaro on August 16, 2007, 02:24:48 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
The production location is identified by one of the VIN digits is it not? It was a California built car I think.


It is, but it also makes an appearence on the RPO codes.
California plant = Van Nuys
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 16, 2007, 05:32:31 pm
Finlay:

Shiny Things arrived today (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Step 2 is get someone at Phil's work to do some TIG'ing for me (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 03, 2007, 09:55:53 pm
Exhaust Works:

Well recently i've been replacing a section of the exhaust that had rotted infront of my Stainless Borla system, this included a new 3" Stainless High-flow Catalytic Converter...

Before:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/OldCat1.jpg)

New Piece:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/NewPipe.jpg)

After:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/NewCat1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/NewCat4.jpg)

Now I know the right hand end looks messy but its only temporary, because I had to cut off the old cat I lost a length of Y-Pipe so have had to make a Butt-joint under a band clamp which will be welded up soon.

Another part of this was re-fitting some of the Borla system to help with the ground clearance problems i've been having.  Hopefully when I can take some pics to compare in daylight there will be a difference...

Here's the before pics:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/Groundclearancebefore.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/P8190018.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on September 03, 2007, 10:14:36 pm
all looking good dude.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 03, 2007, 10:48:10 pm
Shiny ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on September 04, 2007, 07:13:56 am
Wondered what you had been up to (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on September 04, 2007, 08:34:58 am
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 20, 2007, 08:21:04 pm
Got a couple of little bits in the post today...

Bits: (The diddy aerial I had anyway)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/AerialBits.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>Before: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/AerialOld.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>After: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/AerialNew.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>Before: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/ShifterOld.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>After: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/ShifterNew.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>Its worth pointing out that the photos suck because of the flash, so that new leather shifter knob is actually a lot blacker than it looks in the photo.  Well pleased i've finally sorted that out [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/fubar.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on November 20, 2007, 08:22:20 pm
Result! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on November 20, 2007, 08:27:52 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Well pleased i've finally sorted that out


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)  Your making me want to go in the garage (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on November 20, 2007, 09:15:55 pm
looking gooooood (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on November 20, 2007, 09:27:14 pm
got an email stating some go (very slightly) faster parts will be here in 6 - 10 days..

when i say go faster, i mean a free flow MAC air filter, and an FR500 steering wheel...(same as edges)

kinda like this one, but blue..

(http://www.brenspeed.com/mustang_46/images/30945_thumb.gif)

apparently they give better results than a cold air kit, its a replacement cone that goes inside the stock housing.

you just cant see it...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 20, 2007, 11:28:46 pm
Opinions guys...

I've also got on order a new set of t-top body seals and outer edge seals because the seal on the passenger side is leaking water into the footwell along the A-Pillar where its got a cut in it.  So they're all being replaced.

I have also noticed recently that MDM have got NOS Original GM T-Bars in stock (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) so, i'm also considering buying one of those too because the seals are all bonded on etc & are being replaced anyway but my question 1st is this:

Is this treatable / repairable on the T-Bar (Pic is front corner, Drivers side)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/T-BarRust20-11-2007.jpg)

or shall I just stick a new one in?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 20, 2007, 11:29:51 pm
Also what would be my options for rust proofing either this panel or a new one before it goes on the car? its fully removable obviously and cannot warp AT ALL in any process applied to it (so Galv is out)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on November 21, 2007, 08:19:57 am
Remove blast repaint and fit back, job done(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on November 21, 2007, 09:33:32 am
Quoting: F Body
Your making me want to go in the garage


Uh-huh. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/jerkoff.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on November 21, 2007, 12:35:59 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
have also noticed recently that MDM have got NOS Original GM T-Bars


A lot of F Body owners buy the pattern door/roof seals and regret it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)


Quoting: FUBAR
Is this treatable / repairable on the T-Bar (Pic is front corner, Drivers side)



Looks treatable, remove the loose rust and treat with a rust treatment and then repaint (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 21, 2007, 01:33:51 pm
Quoting: Rocky
Remove blast repaint and fit back, job done

Quoting: F Body
Looks treatable, remove the loose rust and treat with a rust treatment and then repaint


Hmm... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Quoting: F Body
A lot of F Body owners buy the pattern door/roof seals and regret it  

The T-Bars are Original GM ones and the new seals I've ordered are Soffseal ones, so should be good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR
the seals are all bonded on


This is with some Black, rubbery looking stuff that is a bugger to get off... does anyone know what it is?? as i'm assuming i'll need to re-apply it for the new seals.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on November 21, 2007, 05:07:58 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
This is with some Black, rubbery looking stuff that is a bugger to get off... does anyone know what it is?? as i'm assuming i'll need to re-apply it for the new seals.


Rubber mastic, make sure you clean off all the old mastic using a solvent cleaner. I'd also recommend using a heater in the garage at this time of year otherwise it won't cure, or worse the damp will get into it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on November 21, 2007, 06:11:02 pm
Softseal are rubbish on 2nd gens have heard they are worse on 3rd gen always use GM ones
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 21, 2007, 06:34:59 pm
I had some soffseal rubbers for my old car and they were really good.

Quoting: F Body
Rubber mastic, make sure you clean off all the old mastic using a solvent cleaner. I'd also recommend using a heater in the garage at this time of year otherwise it won't cure, or worse the damp will get into it


Noted and Noted (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Is that like this stuff?...

http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8110&frostProductName=Black+Windscreen+Sealer+%28380ml%29&catID=20&subCatID=&FrostCat=Glass&FrostSubcat=
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 28, 2007, 07:38:05 pm
One of the other jobs for this winter is to fix the stereo, I have a new ipod coming for xmas so will be ordering one of these imminently..

http://www.ipodcarkitdirect.co.uk/iPod_Car_Kit/Universal_FM_Modulator/Dension_ice%3ELink_FM_Modulator

Its hardwired to the aerial socket which is exactly what i'm looking for.

Then some close colaboration with El Shiftini will occur to sort out speakers & amps (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 28, 2007, 10:05:33 pm
Hmm...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CAMARO-FIREBIRD-10-PRE92-SUBWOOFER-SUB-SPEAKER-BOX_W0QQitemZ280176648056QQihZ018QQcategoryZ38655QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Obviously not buying from the states because it would cost a fortune to ship something that could be made here for way less... especially as he very kindly posts all the dimensions LOL

+ the t-tops still have to fit in the boot...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on November 29, 2007, 06:13:13 am



Oh dear (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rice.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 29, 2007, 12:26:20 pm
Quoting: F Body
Oh dear


NO

At the moment the stereo refurb will be as follows:

1) STOCK head unit.  This is absolutely 100% set in stone that this is staying, hence the ipod kit shown above because I don't want anything visible like tape adapters / wires etc, The docking solution is WIP... but will be SO cool.
2) 2x 6x4 and 2x 6x9 speakers in Stock locations behind everything thats meant to be there.
3) some sort of amp in the boot meerly because the power output on the stock stereo is probably rubbish.  Need to speak to Shifty / G-Unit to sort out what its capable of.
4)  Maybe, and thats a BIG maybe some subs, but it depends on a long string of events that culminates in me having a normal car & keeping the IROC as a 2nd summer car, if thats the case I can use some of the boot space.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on November 29, 2007, 12:33:23 pm
Might have just the thing in the case of a compact SUB

(http://www.tymphany.com/datasheet/dwg/LAT250PB600-02.gif)

(http://www.tymphany.com/datasheet/photo/LAT250PB600-02.jpg)

Very cool technology and i have samples on the way for work shifty's motor
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on November 29, 2007, 01:33:54 pm
9cm x 26cm eh...

1st question... what does it cost.
2nd question... how does that work then?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on November 29, 2007, 01:37:14 pm
Quoting: FUBAR

1st question... what does it cost.



They are $25 to me as an OEM

Quoting: FUBAR
2nd question... how does that work then?


That unit has 10 cones in 5 pairs that push against each other, it gives the equivelant bass output of a single 10" in about a 5ltr box unlike a 20ltr box that would be needed by a sinfgle 10"


They do 2 other versions that equal a pair of 10's and a pair of 12" but they are larger in size and more expensive
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 08, 2008, 04:08:37 pm
Whats the best thing for getting old windscreen sealant rubber stuff off a car?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on January 08, 2008, 05:56:00 pm
Panel wipe degreaser
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on January 08, 2008, 05:56:09 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Whats the best thing for getting old windscreen sealant rubber stuff off a car?


Brake cleaner would be fine on the glass or metal work but you'd need to be very careful on the paintwork (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 08, 2008, 06:03:28 pm
Quoting: Rocky
Panel wipe degreaser


Hmm ok, would Meths or white spirit do it? (I have those)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on January 08, 2008, 06:05:04 pm
NO, Brake or carb cleaner should be ok if you only have that.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on January 08, 2008, 06:30:20 pm
plenty of panel wipe at the barn
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 09, 2008, 12:04:07 pm
it doesn't take off paintwork does it?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on January 09, 2008, 12:08:02 pm
Quoting: FUBAR

it doesn't take off paintwork does it?



no its designed for wiping over paint work in bodyshops
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 09, 2008, 12:10:38 pm
aah ok cool, could I borrow the tin from the barn? would that be ok?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on January 09, 2008, 12:26:41 pm
will decant some for you into a bottle
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 09, 2008, 12:41:48 pm
ok cool, cheers m8 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on January 09, 2008, 02:28:00 pm
petrol removes a wide variety of adhesives...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: EDGE on January 09, 2008, 03:14:26 pm
dude, that ipod adapter seems expensive, i got mine from maplins, fm modulator... £14.99
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 09, 2008, 03:51:39 pm
Quoting: EDGE
that ipod adapter seems expensive


Irrelevant now as i already have it and have 1/2 dismantled it... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on January 09, 2008, 04:19:45 pm
fm modulator cheap as chips on flebay from far east, i had one worked a treat,............(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

[fook knows where it went,somewhere with teaspoons, odd socks,and allen keys(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)]
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 15, 2008, 03:13:02 pm
Curtoesy of the AVO and Mr Redbourne I have a guy coming round tomorrow from Classic Car Weekly to take piccies of the IROC for an article (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

I've just been out cleaning it, and good ol' philo is coming round this evening for a furious polishing session in the garage... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/polish.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on January 15, 2008, 03:15:57 pm
Best get (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/polish.gif)  then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on January 15, 2008, 05:15:24 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
philo is coming round this evening for a furious polishing session



best wait until after the photographer has left............(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on January 15, 2008, 06:26:49 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Curtoesy of the AVO and Mr Redbourne I have a guy coming round tomorrow from Classic Car Weekly to take piccies of the IROC for an article


Cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif) with the weather !
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 15, 2008, 07:25:04 pm
Quoting: F Body
Fingers crossed with the weather !


Yeah indeed (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on January 16, 2008, 07:37:09 am
Pics after the clean please ryan
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 16, 2008, 09:26:34 am
Are you getting any lovelies supplied to drape over your car ?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/emot-quagmire.gif) ?

It's funny . . . I still don't think of Third Gens as "classics" . . . I think OLD when thinking classics . . . .

I guess anything younger then me isn't old in my books ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on January 16, 2008, 10:25:02 am
Jammy bugger looks like today is going to be the only dry day this week or next (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

As Management say's " The devil looks after his own "
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 16, 2008, 11:12:39 am
Quoting: F Body
" The devil looks after his own "


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/devil.gif)


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 16, 2008, 12:40:23 pm
Next Week's edition (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on January 16, 2008, 12:51:35 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on January 16, 2008, 07:50:02 pm
Quoting: CJ-IROCZ
Pics after the clean please ryan


Well come on then boy, let's see some pictures of the pictures (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on January 17, 2008, 05:34:44 pm
we need pics....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on January 17, 2008, 08:15:31 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
I think OLD when thinking classics


with the first thirdgens being in 82, that makes them 26 years old - for a car, that IS old..
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 17, 2008, 11:23:08 pm
Quoting: F Body
Well come on then boy, let's see some pictures of the pictures


He's sending me them on a CD... so I haven't got the Pics yet!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on January 18, 2008, 05:32:07 am
Quoting: FUBAR
He's sending me them on a CD... so I haven't got the Pics yet!


We thought you'd have snapped some of the Guy taking the pictures (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 18, 2008, 08:47:32 am
Quoting: F Body
WeMartyn clearly thought you'd have snapped some of the Guy taking the pictures


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 24, 2008, 02:43:44 pm
Its there folks (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)  Picked up my copies today (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Article.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on January 24, 2008, 04:53:16 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) looks nice!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 06, 2008, 12:38:05 am
Well, following Last Month's article I decided that it was now time to dismantle the car and fit these:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/ReplacementParts1.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>This included a New T-Bar Panel, which I was in 2 minds or not whether to replace, I previously posted this Pic... [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/T-BarRust20-11-2007.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>at the time however I am pleased that I decided to buy a new panel to fit my nice new seals to because after removing the old seals the T-Bar actually looked like this:[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Old04.jpg)

Whilst this is the worst part of it its by no means beyond useless, and probably much better than someone elses T-Bar so i'm going to clean it up, treat it, POR15 it in areas where the seals are and stick it on Flebay... never know I might get a few ££ for it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

The rest of the car however is reassuringly rust free, there is 1 'bad' section on the passenger side but this is purely surface and looks a lot better even now before treating.  Pics below taken after the old seals were removed and before any cleaning up work had commenced.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Old01.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Old02.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Old08.jpg)

More pics will follow when more work is completed.

Cleaning up of Window edge Seal grip channels (off the car)
Cleaning up of roof surfaces and removal of all old bonding material
Re-newing some seam sealant
Treatment of Rust and Clear POR15 Paint on all 'Under-Seal' areas

Re-fitting everything all new & shiny (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Headliner/Sail Panels/Sunvisors Recovering...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on March 06, 2008, 07:43:38 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Re-fitting everything all new & shiny

Headliner/Sail Panels/Sunvisors Recovering...



Looking good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on March 06, 2008, 08:15:34 am
Quoting: F Body


Looking good


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on March 06, 2008, 11:42:10 am
nice work ....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
we will make a restorer of you yet .........(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 16, 2008, 08:57:25 pm
Guys just to double check before I go ahead with this... it is right to use Windscreen type sealant/adhesive to fix the weatherstrips to the car isn't it...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Gator on March 16, 2008, 09:52:34 pm
Quoting: FUBAR

Guys just to double check before I go ahead with this... it is right to use Windscreen type sealant/adhesive to fix the weatherstrips to the car isn't it...


if you mean that frosts stuff nope dont use it its a non setting sealer

you need the 3M weatherstrip adheasive

(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/rodi_1991_21641814)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 16, 2008, 10:21:43 pm
Quoting: Gator
you need the 3M weatherstrip adheasive


Oh god damnit!!

Thats what Graeme said to use but I thought it was the same stuff.

anyone know where to get some without buying from the US?

Edit:  The Black Adhesive doesn't seem to be avaliable in the UK...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Gator on March 16, 2008, 10:31:29 pm
Quoting: FUBAR

Oh god damnit!!

Thats what Graeme said to use but I thought it was the same stuff.

anywhere know where to get some without buying from the US


US auto should do it, having said that dont frosts sell it ?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 16, 2008, 10:45:10 pm
well, i can get it from flebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3M-8008-SUPER-WEATHERSTRIP-ADHESIVE-08008-Black-Glue_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713Q2em153Q2el1262QQcategoryZ63702QQihZ010QQitemZ200199744000QQtcZphoto
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 16, 2008, 10:54:20 pm
i'll pop to hellfrauds tomorrow & double check that they don't sell it, if not i'll have to buy it from there.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on March 16, 2008, 10:57:16 pm
I doubt hellfrauds would have it, you need a 3M supplier try MK paint
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on March 17, 2008, 12:00:17 pm
try these they have all sorts of adhesives,
give em a call and ask(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on March 17, 2008, 12:02:26 pm
oops heres the link....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

http://www.directa.co.uk/site/scripts/products.php?category_id=294
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 17, 2008, 05:51:36 pm
Quoting: art b
try these they have all sorts of adhesives,


Nope (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Quoting: 55starchief
try MK paint


Just did... no answer, they've probably all gone home.

I need this stuff ASAP too because the Stepdad is going apeshit because the IROC will be occupying the Garage for MORE time!  Gonna have to go with the Flebay source (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on March 17, 2008, 05:53:24 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
the Stepdad is going apeshit because the IROC will be occupying the Garage for MORE time!


I saw that one coming a mile off ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on March 17, 2008, 05:56:12 pm
I doubt your gonna find that in the UK, just order it form the USA
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on March 17, 2008, 06:00:17 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
the Stepdad is going apeshit because the IROC will be occupying the Garage for MORE time!


Well I might sympathize with him if he had a car worth putting in a garage (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 17, 2008, 06:01:21 pm
Quoting: F Body
Well I might sympathize with him if he had a car worth putting in a garage


Exactly!!!!    God he just doesn't friggin get it!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif) indeed!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 17, 2008, 06:03:39 pm
Right, before I order some from ebay..

Does anyone else want / need any? anyone else going to need some soon and would like to jump in on my order...  the shipping is rather pricey so sharing some of it would be nice.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on March 17, 2008, 06:04:17 pm
Quoting: F Body
Well I might sympathize with him if he had a car worth putting in a garage


Thats not the point, its the fact its his garage. Im not agreeing with him entirely but it is his house and his garage and if he wants to complain he has every right
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 17, 2008, 06:05:14 pm
Quoting: 55starchief
the fact its his garage. Im not agreeing with him entirely but it is his house and his garage and if he wants to complain he has every right


This is also, Unfortunately also true.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on March 17, 2008, 06:06:54 pm
Quoting: 55starchief
Im not agreeing with him entirely but it is his house and his garage and if he wants to complain he has every right


Nope sorry I disagree :

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/ranton.gif)  


Toyota Avensis drivers should park their car in the Kitchen with all the other domestic appliances (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)


Edit : At least it's not a ruddy Prius.....................yet !
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 17, 2008, 06:09:38 pm
Quoting: F Body
At least it's not a ruddy Prius.....................yet !


No no, when he was thinking of buying a new car guess what he was looking at... yup another Blue Avensis!!! possible even still the same (old) shape!!  way to break the mould there m8!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on March 17, 2008, 06:11:08 pm
As i was told by my dad under my roof you live by my rules, you want different rules find a different roof (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 17, 2008, 06:33:12 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Does anyone else want / need any?


Going once...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on March 17, 2008, 07:04:31 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Going once...


No, Mate . . I'll need some in the distant future, but not yet.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 17, 2008, 08:14:33 pm
Going Twice...











Going Thrice... ...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on March 17, 2008, 08:33:44 pm
How much can you get it for?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 17, 2008, 08:35:41 pm
$7 per tube... + shipping if i really need it
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on March 17, 2008, 08:37:50 pm
Do you know how much the shipping is? I pay £4 per tube
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 17, 2008, 08:39:26 pm
Do you have some?  I'll give you £4 a tube if you can get it to me ASAP (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on March 17, 2008, 08:41:42 pm
I get it when i go out there, I might know someone with some though, You can always use tigerseal but you wont get them back off again.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 17, 2008, 08:44:26 pm
the only reason they'd ever come off again (unless they got damaged)would be if the car got a Total Respray, and thats not happening any time soon...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 17, 2008, 10:16:14 pm
Order Placed.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on March 19, 2008, 04:24:54 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Order Placed.



with who.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 19, 2008, 06:16:55 pm
Quoting: art b
with who.....


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200199744000&rd=1
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on March 19, 2008, 06:27:05 pm
Damn you were right that is expensive shipping , at least you will have the proper stuff though.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 19, 2008, 06:29:16 pm
Quoting: Rocky
at least you will have the proper stuff though


Indeed (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on March 20, 2008, 01:37:57 pm
ebay.com FTW ....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 30, 2008, 05:41:59 pm
Quoting: Gator (From other thread)
Quoting: FUBAR
Yep, got the weatherstripping finished on the IROC this afternoon


how did it go mate ? Phil said you had got softseal which can be hit or miss


Went fine, the passenger side ones are a 100% fit and the Drivers side ones are about 95% as there are a couple of little bits that i'm not entirely happy with. I'll just have to see how it copes with the weather...

I have bucket loads of adhesive left over LOL.

Now I just have to decide what i'm going to do with the headliner as it is currently still sat on my brothers bed atm.  the covering material is all dead, but the board is generally in good condition, although it needs some work.  I'm just not sure how it will stand up to having the old fabric removed...

The plan is also to brush the board with fibreglass resin to set it hard, and to also re-inforce a couple of areas where its cracked.

I have spoken to a trimmers company I know in MK (PG Trimmers) and have been told that to recover the headliner board (after its fixed) 2 sunvisors and the rear sail panels "won't break the bank" but he's requested to see it before quoting (will be fine as I know the guy and his wife from years back)

Have to see what happens.   In the mean time i'm driving about with no headliner.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on March 30, 2008, 05:50:05 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
In the mean time i'm driving about with no headliner.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on March 30, 2008, 05:51:08 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Now I just have to decide what i'm going to do with the headliner


Ditto. I'm wondering what sort of job a local upholsterer would do
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Gator on March 30, 2008, 06:00:41 pm
headliners for those are easy/cheap enough to get hold of aint they
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 30, 2008, 06:12:00 pm
Its the shipping from the US that makes it expensive because of the size of box needed

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=621
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on March 30, 2008, 07:17:31 pm
Quoting: Gator
headliners for those are easy/cheap enough to get hold of aint they



ummmm. No

Pain in the ass
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on March 30, 2008, 07:44:15 pm
is recovering ,not a job you could do ya-self on a ridged liner....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 31, 2008, 06:49:56 pm
Quoting: art b
is recovering ,not a job you could do ya-self on a ridged liner....


Possibly, however i'm not sure how my current fibre board liner, whilst in good condition for its age, will stand up to having the old fabric removed, i'm tempted to spend a bit more and know it'll be right...

Seaking of which I phoned Hawks today and shipping to the UK with Bax Global to Heathrow is $140, they don't do a door-to-door option by the sounds of it.  still thats cheaper than I was expecting it to be. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 31, 2008, 06:51:50 pm
Currently i'm waiting to hear back from Rocky as to whether there is one avaliable in the UK...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on March 31, 2008, 06:59:37 pm
Watch Hawks they tend to add a bit on here and there. Will let you know about the UK one asap.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on April 02, 2008, 07:18:32 am
Ryan, I would be interested in coming in with you if we could save a little on shipping ?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 02, 2008, 12:46:37 pm
Quoting: CJ-IROCZ
Ryan, I would be interested in coming in with you if we could save a little on shipping ?


See PM m8...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on April 02, 2008, 03:54:40 pm
Ryan , hold fire for a bit mate. I've just emailed my pal in regards to the shipping
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on April 02, 2008, 07:41:20 pm
Are we talking headliners ?  As I may be interested . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 02, 2008, 08:57:20 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Are we talking headliners ? As I may be interested . . . .


We are...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on April 03, 2008, 08:38:03 am
Where from ? - Hawks ?

I'm also interested in a carpet set . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on April 03, 2008, 08:48:31 am
Quoting: Roadkill
I'm also interested in a carpet set . .


Yoiu going black?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on April 03, 2008, 09:44:42 am
Yup.

Mine's black anyway (I think) but I want a carpet without the centre-console cut-out.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 03, 2008, 12:52:04 pm
yeah I was going to use Hawks, looks like this might end up being quite a big order... Craig, any news on the shipping?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on April 03, 2008, 05:58:18 pm
just waiting for an email mate. He sometimes takes a little while but he always replys.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 06, 2008, 07:53:41 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/bump.gif)
Any news m8???  as i kinda need to get this ordered otherwise because its not long until the AACUK show and I want the car ready by then for the summer
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 09, 2008, 07:42:33 pm
Well after this evenings attempts to do a bit of work on my old headliner board I have remembered the old saying "Its always 10 times worse underneath than it looks on the surface" (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

The board turned out to be as close to being in 3 or 4 bits as it possibly could be without looking totally shyte while in the car and was cracked in a fair few places as well.  The back section was in really good condition but ths was made up for by the centre (split) and front sections (disintegrating)

Pics:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/OldHeadliner1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/OldHeadliner2.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/OldHeadliner3.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Oldheadliner4.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>So this leaves me in the position of having no headliner what so ever, which is bad news for Craig i'm afraid as it means i'm going to have to order from Hawks either this evening or tomorrow to get a new set.There was however 1 +Tip of the dayFor anyone trying to remove old foam backed fabric from these headliners, after 20 odd years the foam is mostly dust, and the brush attachment of your Hoover works brilliantly at persuading all of the destroyed old backing foam to leave the headliner, all without damaging the fibreboard at all [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on April 09, 2008, 07:45:24 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
i'm going to have to order from Hawks either this evening or tomorrow to get a new set.


What's the shipping charges on this ?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 09, 2008, 07:55:34 pm
$140 Delieved to Heathrow Airport. that was for 1 headliner & some new Hood Rams (need them too)

I asked the lady about the cost of including another and she said that the shipping charge would pretty much double.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on April 09, 2008, 07:58:35 pm
Quoting: FUBAR

I asked the lady about the cost of including another and she said that the shipping charge would pretty much double.


yeah that would be about right maybe a little less as its worked on the cube. You might be able to get it delivered to bax birmingham
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 09, 2008, 08:01:52 pm
to be honest it doesn't really matter which one it goes too, i've still got to find a way of collecting it from the airport.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on April 09, 2008, 08:05:48 pm
Quoting: FUBAR

to be honest it doesn't really matter which one it goes too, i've still got to find a way of collecting it from the airport.


might be worth calling bax in the uk, let me see if u have a contact number as i think they collect from us at work
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on April 09, 2008, 08:06:32 pm
Thanks for enquiring about the shipping. I need a headliner bad but just cant raise the cash until the next couple of weeks, but like you say it isn't saving anything by ordering together.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 09, 2008, 08:12:25 pm
Quoting: CJ-IROCZ
but like you say it isn't saving anything by ordering together.


Unfortuntely not, and despite my efforts I now can't really wait a couple of weeks Sorry m8 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Gator on April 09, 2008, 08:14:23 pm
try these i have a part being shipped by them and so far so good
http://www.parcel2go.com/quick-quote.aspx
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 09, 2008, 08:16:01 pm
I don't know the box size or weight i'm afraid, the quote from Hawks was with Bax Global, and TBH $140 was cheaper than I was expecting it to be...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on April 09, 2008, 08:18:28 pm
ask fieldy to collect it as it will be at terminal 4
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Fieldy on April 09, 2008, 08:22:36 pm
Always if I can be A help.... I am always around heathrow.....

PM me though, I rarely look in this thread (don't know why I just did actually, odd)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 09, 2008, 08:24:11 pm
Well, do you have a vehicle capable of containing a box the width and 1/3 the length of a 3rd gen? because thats what it'll be in...

and how would i get it from you?

+ there's probably going to be duties to be payed i'd imagine
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Fieldy on April 09, 2008, 08:28:13 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Dude, I don't know, just trying to help lol
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on April 09, 2008, 08:29:41 pm
You should be ab;e to call bax and pay the duty over th phne mate, as for getting it up im sure edge will be coming this way or philo going the other in the coming weks as we fix his collection of broken cars
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Fieldy on April 09, 2008, 08:32:42 pm
There's always A way....Get it delivered from the aiport to mine (10mins down the road)?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on April 09, 2008, 08:34:28 pm
Dude, Just drive to hethrow in the 'maro, fit the headliner, and drive back...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Fieldy on April 09, 2008, 08:36:35 pm
Quoting: Titsy
Dude, Just drive to hethrow in the 'maro, stop for A K.K doughnut with Fieldy, fit the headliner, and drive back...


*Fixed
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 09, 2008, 08:37:33 pm
Quoting: Titsy
Dude, Just drive to hethrow in the 'maro, fit the headliner, and drive back...


There is always that option TBH, take tools, fit it in Carpark.  It is HIGHLY weather dependant tho..., although actually with it out of the box it might will fit in the back...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 09, 2008, 08:37:50 pm
Quoting: Fieldy
Quoting: Titsy
Dude, Just drive to hethrow in the 'maro, stop for A K.K doughnut with Fieldy, fit the headliner, and drive back...


*Fixed


That too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Fieldy on April 09, 2008, 08:40:17 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
There is always that option TBH, take tools, fit it in Carpark. It is HIGHLY weather dependant tho..., although actually with it out of the box it might fit in the back...


If you are talking Terminal 4 there is A short stay multi-story (making you dry regardless)

shame, my car park pass got me in free before when I was in that terminal, not anymore though, tried it last night... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on April 09, 2008, 08:42:30 pm
T4 is freight terminal isnt it?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Fieldy on April 09, 2008, 08:46:50 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

It is B.A long haul until the end of this month.....
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 10, 2008, 06:29:40 pm
Shiny Bits Ordered. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on April 10, 2008, 07:08:30 pm
Bax should deliver it but will stick you for loads of extra costs. Be better to pick it up yourself. We have a special trade number to get stuff in but had loads of customers get stung with extra charges.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on April 10, 2008, 07:10:11 pm
Quoting: Rocky

Bax should deliver it but will stick you for loads of extra costs. Be better to pick it up yourself. We have a special trade number to get stuff in but had loads of customers get stung with extra charges.


Yup i have my stuff delivered to work and never pay anything for it other than the duty.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 10, 2008, 07:12:27 pm
could you go to one of your places then on your number thingy? then i could collect it...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on April 10, 2008, 07:29:02 pm
Im not sure but i think it has to be ordered in our name to use the sudo number.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 10, 2008, 07:52:30 pm
aah ok np
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 27, 2008, 07:32:53 pm
Well, it must have been worth it because I came home today with the Best 80's trophy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cheers.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/show%20pics/Best80sTrophy.jpg)

I'm well chuffed (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on April 27, 2008, 07:36:33 pm
Trophy looks kinda squewed . .  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Congrats, mate - lots of work has paid off. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on April 27, 2008, 07:37:56 pm
Well done buddy... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: 55starchief on April 27, 2008, 07:39:07 pm
Congratulations, now get that 3rd brake light fixed
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on April 27, 2008, 07:39:19 pm
Excellent, well done mate! well deserved, its an awesome car, that you have done total justice to with your attention to detail and dedication.

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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Gator on April 27, 2008, 07:40:29 pm
about bloody time (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) well done mate
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jo on April 27, 2008, 08:04:53 pm
Yeah congrats you & your car deserved that (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rob on April 27, 2008, 08:13:14 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Well, it must have been worth it because I came home today with the Best 80's trophy


Many Congratulations Ryan.....Well deserved mate.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 27, 2008, 08:19:43 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/show%20pics/P1020431.jpg)

Shiny things (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)  The 'vert in the background we'll hopefully be seeing at our meets soon too, was a guy (Julian) from Northampton who seemed very keen (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) that is unless he sells it beforehand, it was up for 5k

So he got a flyer and was told to ignore the map to The Fancott (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Gator on April 27, 2008, 08:38:39 pm
cool pic that car sure is a beauty and the other looks good i really like vert 3rd gens
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on April 27, 2008, 09:13:30 pm
Congrats(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on April 27, 2008, 09:16:36 pm
well done ryan its a beaut.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Gator
cool pic that car sure is a beauty and the other looks good id really like workin 3rd gen

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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on April 27, 2008, 10:06:04 pm
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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Gator on April 27, 2008, 10:06:28 pm
Quoting: art b
Quoting: Gator
cool pic that car sure is a beauty and the other looks good id really like workin 3rd gen



grrr (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) id like to spit in your eye mr (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on April 28, 2008, 06:05:10 am
Quoting: FUBAR
I came home today with the Best 80's trophy


So may be all the headliner hassle was worth it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Well done mate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on April 28, 2008, 08:24:43 am
Very well done mate - thoroughly deserved win!!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on April 28, 2008, 08:25:01 am
Quoting: FUBAR

So he got a flyer and was told to ignore the map to The Fancott


Hmm lil reminder for ya then lol!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 26, 2008, 04:00:48 pm
New GM Fog lights fitted today (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/FogLights2.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 26, 2008, 04:07:06 pm
Not gonna become a foglight pilot, now, are you ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on June 26, 2008, 04:25:14 pm
looking good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on June 26, 2008, 04:37:34 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
New GM Fog lights fitted today  



(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)  About time they were letting the car down (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 26, 2008, 05:39:37 pm
well one of them was, other one was ok.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 26, 2008, 05:39:52 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Not gonna become a foglight pilot, now, are you ?


Only if its foggy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 10, 2008, 05:33:49 pm
If i'm planning to Fit these:

(http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/hok-2055-1hkr_w.jpg)
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HOK%2D2055%2D1HKR&N=700+4294908216+4294908198+4294924930+4294923429+4294840140+400390+115&autoview=sku

what else will i need to buy in addition to a Heat shield?
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=SUM%2DG1370&autoview=sku
Will I need new Plug Leads?  any other stuff?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Sammy Lou on July 11, 2008, 03:30:58 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
what else will i need to buy in addition to a Heat shield?


I'd highly recommend a mini-starter.  The large stock one will cook, shield or no shield.  I'm looking at a GM performance one for around $320.

Also, I'd go for locking bolts for the headers, not the "stardard" ARP ones - around $40, I believe, but worth it so I'm told.

Your plug leads should be O.K . . . but how old are they ?

Assuming the headers come with gaskets and relevent bungs etc . . that should do you.

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EDIT - No, that wasn't Sammy posting, there . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/boobs.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on July 11, 2008, 04:12:35 pm
The standard gaskets I got with mine were shite, I've now brouht good felpro gaskets.

The Stainless bolts I brought were fine and have never loosened but i know some people have problems
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 11, 2008, 04:17:25 pm
Quoting: Sammy Lou
I'd highly recommend a mini-starter


I only replaced it about a year or so ago... with a stock one (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Quoting: Sammy Lou
I'd go for locking bolts for the headers


Hmm, ok worth getting i guess , I assume they unlock ok when you need them too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Quoting: CJ-IROCZ
The standard gaskets I got with mine were shite, I've now brouht good felpro gaskets


I was probably going to get some branded ones as well.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 11, 2008, 04:19:27 pm
On a Separate note, took the car to Paragon today for this year's MOT and it passed easily (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

One thing I was suprised to see is that its only covered 1,741 miles since last year's test (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)  mental note, drive it more this year (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/drive.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on July 11, 2008, 04:33:02 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
I was suprised to see is that its only covered 1,741 miles since last year's test mental note, drive it more this year



That's about 937 miles more than my Camaro in the last 12 months (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

So little time & too much (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/moped.gif)

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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on July 12, 2008, 08:15:09 am
Quoting: FUBAR
I assume they unlock ok when you need them too  


Yes, they do.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on August 04, 2008, 08:40:48 pm
Here you go FUBAR:

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/slice_of_toast/tyres.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 05, 2008, 12:39:20 pm
Hmm ok, Cheers m8.



Oh btw, the WOT shift point on the 5.7TPI is at 5000rpm, with a 5500rpm redline.  You asked that ages ago but i kept forgetting to tell you.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on August 05, 2008, 10:01:58 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Oh btw, the WOT shift point on the 5.7TPI is at 5000rpm, with a 5500rpm redline. You asked that ages ago but i kept forgetting to tell you.

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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 06, 2008, 09:04:31 pm
The IROC Has a Problem!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

I've noticed it not idleing very smoothly again recently so have pulled the spark plugs this evening (Knuckle casualties: 1) and found that 2 of the plugs, on cylinders 1 & 4 were fouled up, looking not unlike this:

(http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/graphics/tech/plugconditions/deposits.jpg)

These were the same 2 plugs that were fouled last year when I changed to NGK plugs shortly after Philo's Birthday.  Apparantly according to websites means that Oil is getting into the combustion chamber, either because its too thin, or via the piston rings or Valve stem seals.

If the 710 was too thin i would imagine that the other plugs would show similar, possibly milder symptoms however the other 6 were all perfectly normal.  Even though I have recently swapped from 5w30 oil to 10w40.

Which leaves either Stem seals or Piston Rings...  My money is on a Stem seal problem.

Whats involved in Fixing this? as I probably can't afford to do it atm so am just going to have to whip the plugs out every few months & clean them up.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on September 06, 2008, 09:27:45 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)


Might be some stop leak type thing you could pour in (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)


Quoting: FUBAR
710

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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: mike on September 07, 2008, 08:34:35 am
Quoting: FUBAR
The IROC Has a Problem!!


Don't bring it back now(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Did i forget to say there was no Guarantee(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on September 07, 2008, 09:53:34 am
well if its stem seals  you will get a puff of blue smoke on start up...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif) but im sure that the small amount of oil in that case would not be fouling the plugs as it would soon burn off...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

 a compression test will show ring wear...... when was the last rebuild..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 07, 2008, 10:50:56 am
Quoting: art b
well if its stem seals you will get a puff of blue smoke on start up...


Nope

Quoting: art b
in that case would not be fouling the plugs as it would soon burn off...


They were worse than the one in the pic (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Quoting: art b
when was the last rebuild..


Um, Never? I'm pretty sure Mike & Rocky never did anything like that so its into the unknown realms of its US owner...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on September 07, 2008, 11:51:05 am
If its the rings it will smoke when you rev it. Whats the mileage now?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Fieldy on September 07, 2008, 11:57:51 am
I say return it to the previous owner, you obviously got scammed ryan. Whether you like it or not, you got yourself a shitter.....One of the worst examples I have ever seen.... Personally, i would say it was almost written off there.... I'll take it off your hands for the scrap value, i can't say fairer than that.







(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

No really, I want it!!!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on September 07, 2008, 12:00:16 pm
If your selling ill have it for breaking(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on September 07, 2008, 12:03:17 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Even though I have recently swapped from 5w30 oil to 10w40.


IMHO 10w40 is way too thin for a Yank engine (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Why have you changed ???

Quoting: FUBAR
My money is on a Stem seal problem.


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif) but............


Quoting: FUBAR
well if its stem seals you will get a puff of blue smoke on start up...


Nope



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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on September 07, 2008, 12:14:53 pm
As far as i remember that was a high mileage engine so should have a thicker oil or additive to help.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 07, 2008, 12:30:31 pm
125,000 miles  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: mike on September 07, 2008, 04:32:56 pm
Ok I'll put my hands up mate(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Just cos I know ya I'll give you your money back .
What you paid me for it that's only fair(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Just let me know when I can pick it up(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 07, 2008, 09:24:08 pm
Quoting: mike
What you paid me for it that's only fair
Just let me know when I can pick it up


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 08, 2008, 12:06:50 pm
NB:  It was running quite happily to the meet & back yesterday (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) so while the cause of the problem isn't fixed due to lack of £££, at least with regular checking & can keep it running fine.  Unfortunately that will have to do for now (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 08, 2008, 01:05:14 pm
As said - Stick in some thick oil . . . add some oil treatment, too.

Then keep an eye on it for a couple of months. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on September 08, 2008, 07:51:26 pm
If your oil pressure gauge drops you will need a thicker oil as the engine will start to show signs of wear.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 08, 2008, 09:23:51 pm
Quoting: Rocky
If your oil pressure gauge drops you will need a thicker oil as the engine will start to show signs of wear.


I'll check it more often but its never struck me as low (or too high for that matter)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on October 01, 2008, 12:14:16 pm
...

No news due to no money to do anything interesting (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

...



Pointless post eh?  well its lunchtime and i'm pi$$ bored (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lazy.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on December 31, 2008, 01:13:29 am
After a conversation with Dean & Shifty this evening it appears that the pistons are seized on my rear brake callipers...
Handbrake still works but foot Brake does Sweet FA.

Time to find out about sorting that asap seen as the car is hibernating atm, seems like the ideal time to dismantle things (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on December 31, 2008, 01:24:23 pm
JWR - New Callipers are £153 each including £50 core charge.

Think i'll try & free them first...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on December 31, 2008, 04:07:37 pm
How about going up there this weekend - was thinking about going up there to drop some stuff off @ c/van and sort some stuff out ???
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Cunning Plan on December 31, 2008, 04:08:50 pm
Yeah id just take them apart and grease it all up good first, especially if the cars not being used for a while (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on December 31, 2008, 04:42:03 pm
Quoting: ianjpage
How about going up there this weekend


Sounds like a plan, i'll bring tools (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mechanic2.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on December 31, 2008, 05:01:04 pm
Quoting: ianjpage
How about going up there this weekend


Don't you keep the Camaro at home anymore (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on December 31, 2008, 09:21:34 pm
Just rebuild the calipers
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on January 01, 2009, 09:58:26 am
Quoting: FUBAR


Sounds like a plan, i'll bring tools


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Quoting: F Body
Don't you keep the Camaro at home anymore


its in 'winter hibernation' at the barn !
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on January 01, 2009, 11:33:05 am
Quoting: ianjpage
its in 'winter hibernation' at the barn !



The Auto barn of Death (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Has anything actually come out of there working better than it went it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 01, 2009, 12:36:43 pm
Quoting: F Body
Has anything actually come out of there working better than it went in


My Old Camaro came out "better" than it went in

But yeah, its over at the barn because I was told that I couldn't use the Garage this winter.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on January 01, 2009, 12:49:50 pm
Quoting: F Body

The Auto barn of Death  

Has anything actually come out of there working better than it went it


Yeah the BBQ has come out of there lol!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 01, 2009, 02:08:55 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
JWR - New Callipers are £153 each including £50 core charge.


I'd get a quote from someone in the states, TBH . . . at that price you've got quite a good margin for savings. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Worth a look first, though.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 05, 2009, 01:26:40 pm
Seen as I forgot to take my Car Keys to the barn on Saturday (Doh!!) meaning this job is still outstanding I popped to Halfords at lunch today and have picked up a couple of new tools...

1 -  Calliper Piston rewinding tool (No more awkward G-Clamps!)
2 - Special socket for taking off Wheel nuts, basically its got a Nylon jacket so it doesn't damage the wheels, was an impulse buy this one (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 05, 2009, 03:12:21 pm
No A/F allen keys, then. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Just kidding. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR
1 - Calliper Piston rewinding tool (No more awkward G-Clamps!)


Oooo, how much was that ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 05, 2009, 04:47:42 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
No A/F allen keys, then.  

Just kidding.  


No, thats what I went in for... but they only has metric ones so i'll have to have a look elsewhere for those.

Quoting: Roadkill
Oooo, how much was that ?


£21 not cheap, but I figure that it'll last donkeys years, will be very handy and between me & lending it to peeps will get a fair bit of use. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 23, 2009, 12:11:44 pm
New Callipers ordered today for the rear... £400 total with a £100 total core charge refundable when I give them my old ones.

My wallet hurts (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on February 23, 2009, 12:12:22 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
£400 total


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) ouch....least 100 quid comes back to you though....
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on February 23, 2009, 12:53:19 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
£400 total


Just don't work out how a mile she costs you (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 23, 2009, 12:53:52 pm
Ian, reckon we could do these this Saturday before bringing the IROC home?

Just thought its the meet on Sunday and I want to take the car (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on February 23, 2009, 02:17:32 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Ian, reckon we could do these this Saturday before bringing the IROC home?


Hmmm, cant see any reason why not ..... yeah think we shoudl be able to (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR

Just thought its the meet on Sunday and I want to take the car

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on February 23, 2009, 02:22:39 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Ian, reckon we could do these this Saturday before bringing the IROC home?


NO NO NO ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono.gif)

Never attack a job like that assuming that it'll all go O.K.

If it's involving 20 year old hydrualic lines something's bound to go wrong / snap / break.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 23, 2009, 05:31:53 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Never attack a job like that assuming that it'll all go O.K.


Hmm good point, okey doke, i'll take the advise & wait until the car is home.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on February 23, 2009, 08:44:37 pm
i use a rachet clamp for piston rewinding (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

like one of these works a treat and i bought it for 10 quid,and use it for all sorts of diy stuff(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12-Ratcheting-Bar-Clamp-Spreader-Woodworking-tools-NEW_W0QQitemZ120382131771QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item120382131771
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 24, 2009, 06:11:32 pm
Well, the 'new' callipers are here... you can really tell that (on one of them in particular) they are remanufactured... the casting is battered (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif) other one is fine.
they appear to work though...

I'm not entirely happy TBH but I haven't got any choice.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on February 24, 2009, 07:06:22 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Well, the 'new' callipers are here... you can really tell that (on one of them in particular) they are remanufactured... the casting is battered other one is fine.



Jeeze £400 for that (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 24, 2009, 08:28:37 pm
I know... trouble is I can't get to JWR to complain/swap as they aren't open weekends and I can't get across there on my push bike
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 24, 2009, 08:37:02 pm
Guess which one i'm not happy with...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/NewRearCallipers1web.jpg)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on February 24, 2009, 08:37:06 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
trouble is I can't get to JWR to complain/swap as they aren't open weekends


Well if it's going to show when the caliper is fitted you have to return it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on February 24, 2009, 08:38:42 pm
Quoting: F Body
Well if it's going to show when the caliper is fitted you have to return it


Oh you posted the picture four seconds before I posted, looks like it's on the inside so shouldn't be visible (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on February 24, 2009, 08:40:12 pm
Got to love GM parts sharing (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Made in Australia  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 24, 2009, 08:42:58 pm
Quoting: F Body
looks like it's on the inside so shouldn't be visible


I reckon so yes, but thats not really the point. Those things are £150 AFTER i've been so kind as to somehow take my cores back to them (which are in much better shape, albeit grubbier)

Even for Re-Manufactured ones I'd expect better than something that looks like its been used as a doorstop for a few years.

thing is out of shear inconvinience on my part they'll be getting away with it though.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on February 24, 2009, 09:16:33 pm
if you wanted to have a chat to them ryan im sure either phil could pop in on thurs / fri or equally i could as im 'working' from home thur/fri ???
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 24, 2009, 09:45:19 pm
Quoting: ianjpage
if you wanted to have a chat to them ryan im sure either phil could pop in on thurs / fri or equally i could as im 'working' from home thur/fri ???


Could be a plan actually, as i have friday off this week (but no transport) after going to see Rise Against on Thursday night.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on February 24, 2009, 10:29:56 pm
are they different colours too....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 24, 2009, 10:43:08 pm
yeah i know... the left one is 'natural' aluminium but the right one looks suspiciously like its been painted for some reason (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) in a sort of metallic gunmetal colour
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on February 25, 2009, 06:53:03 am
Quoting: FUBAR

Quoting: ianjpage
if you wanted to have a chat to them ryan im sure either phil could pop in on thurs / fri or equally i could as im 'working' from home thur/fri ???

Could be a plan actually, as i have friday off this week (but no transport) after going to see Rise Against on Thursday night.


That sounds almost like a plan then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) - if u wanted to just use the van/camaro as transport (if you insured to) thats another possibility!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on February 25, 2009, 07:48:49 am
Quoting: FUBAR
the left one is 'natural' aluminium but the right one looks suspiciously like its been painted for some reason



Me thinks your being reamed Buddy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Not what I'd expect for £400 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on February 25, 2009, 08:07:57 am
All GM performance parts are made in Austrailia, I might of been able to get you brand new ones if i had read the thread sooner(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on February 25, 2009, 08:58:13 am
Quoting: FUBAR

Could be a plan actually, as i have friday off this week (but no transport) after going to see Rise Against on Thursday night.


OT - Seeing them next week on Thursday at Oxford... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 25, 2009, 12:03:34 pm
Quoting: Andy
OT - Seeing them next week on Thursday at Oxford


OT - Cool, saw them at Hurricane Festival in Germany last year & they were awesome (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 25, 2009, 12:06:13 pm
Quoting: ianjpage
That sounds almost like a plan then  - if u wanted to just use the van/camaro as transport (if you insured to) thats another possibility!!


I don't think my insurance covers me for driving other vehicles... i'll have a check tonight but i'm not optimistic.

I know when I used your van to move Keith back from Stoke we had to arrange a weekends insurance.

Quoting: Rocky
I might of been able to get you brand new ones if i had read the thread sooner


Damnit (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on February 25, 2009, 01:09:33 pm
Quoting: FUBAR

I don't think my insurance covers me for driving other vehicles... i'll have a check tonight but i'm not optimistic.

I know when I used your van to move Keith back from Stoke we had to arrange a weekends insurance.


ok lemme know as im sure i can work summat out for friday, i.e. long lunch / finish early etc...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 25, 2009, 05:30:26 pm
if you could Ian that would be greatly greatly appreciated.

I'll give you fuel money & lunch (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on February 25, 2009, 10:22:36 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
if you could Ian that would be greatly greatly appreciated.


no probs consider done - means you gorra be up before midday on friday though LOL!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 25, 2009, 10:24:23 pm
yep no probs.

Cheers m8, owe ya one (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on February 25, 2009, 10:27:46 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
yep no probs.

Cheers m8, owe ya one


hehe ok i'll hold ya to it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

dont worry about it t'aint no probs
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 27, 2009, 02:48:39 pm
Well, we popped over to JWR today, sadly they didn't have any other callipers in stock so I was unable to change the crap one over, after lots of moaning they eventually gave me 10% off that one which while not ideal is better than nothing i guess.

I checked with US Automotive and they don't keep them in stock so i'd be looking at a few weeks wait and not knowing what I was going to get at the end of it.

oh well.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on February 27, 2009, 04:19:18 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
eventually gave me 10% off


Better than a (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/pokey.gif) I suppose but If you were building an all-out show car that just wouldn't be acceptable.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on February 27, 2009, 04:47:57 pm
The 2nd gen calipers I had from USAutos were'nt matching either.  One was the gunmetal grey, the other gold zinc.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on February 27, 2009, 05:26:30 pm
Quoting: Jamieg285
The 2nd gen calipers I had from USAutos were'nt matching either. One was the gunmetal grey, the other gold zinc.



Whilst they are nice and clean it may be worth while painting them with caliper paint ( the two pack resin type ) I did the Panda's when it was new and they clean up very well (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

I choose black to avoid being Chavy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 27, 2009, 07:33:50 pm
Quoting: F Body
Whilst they are nice and clean it may be worth while painting them with caliper paint


The thought had crossed my mind... I kinda want to fit them pretty sharpish tho.

whats this 2 part paint you refer to?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on February 28, 2009, 06:39:11 am
Quoting: FUBAR
whats this 2 part paint you refer to?


It's an epoxy two pack paint, one can of colour resin and one can of hardener.
Mix the two together and you have about 20 minutes before it goes off.

It gives a far more durable finish than normal paint, about £16 a go (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 28, 2009, 07:35:08 pm
where can i get that stuff martyn?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: EDGE on February 28, 2009, 07:37:25 pm
i used the regular brake caliper paint from halfords, i think i did 2 coats and it stayed fine for at least 3 years, i sold the car after that so i dont know what it was like long term
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 28, 2009, 08:11:36 pm
Drove the car home today (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

1 question, with the headlights on the Indicators are VERY slow, with the headlights off they're fine.  There are no blown bulbs and they are equally slow both left and right.

anyone got any ideas what could be causing this?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on February 28, 2009, 09:04:48 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
anyone got any ideas what could be causing this?


Sounds like some sort of current drain, do you an ammeter/charge display (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on March 01, 2009, 10:00:04 am
one thing to check ryan is the voltage coming out the alternator when the engine is running - should be 13.4 volts or up AFAIK....could be its a tad low and its having the effect of slowing the relays down when the lights are causing a drain....

(Shout if you want me to bring a multimeter to the meet)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 01, 2009, 01:34:04 pm
I'll bring mine, we'll test it because I can't see where to put the probes... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 01, 2009, 11:25:22 pm
so after todays findings... anyone know anywhere where I can get my Alternator refurb'd (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on March 02, 2009, 07:24:05 am
Quoting: FUBAR
so after todays findings... anyone know anywhere where I can get my Alternator refurb'd


Nearest place i could find that does refurb was in bedford ... will get the name out for you laters....most places i rang either wern't interested in doing refurbs (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif) Only to sell a new / replacement one!!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on March 02, 2009, 12:02:22 pm
get it of the car and check all the contacts, then see if the brushes are removable/replaceable it will cost you nothing to have a look at it,
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on March 02, 2009, 12:11:20 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
anyone know anywhere where I can get my Alternator refurb'd


found it out:

Fenlake Autos
106 Fenlake Road, MK42 0EU
01234 346993

They advised me that they wouldn't charge to take it to bits to inspect it, and would give me a call once they knew what was up and then you decide fix it or return (if you have it returned it will be returned as is - in bits ! )
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on March 02, 2009, 02:42:45 pm
From what I've read, it's not too difficult a job to do yourself, and you can buy kits with all the bits in.

I'm looking at doing mine sometime, as it died on me a month ago.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: HardRockCamaro on March 02, 2009, 03:10:19 pm
Have you checked the resistance between the battery and chassis, and all the other grounds too?

Mine is a bit slow and a new alternator didn't fix it.  the resistance is a bit high in mine so I need to clean up the grounds...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on March 02, 2009, 03:23:58 pm
What was wrong with the alt?  

HRC is right, the speed of the flash is dependant on the resistance.  If you replace regular bulbs with LEDs, the flashers go quicker due to the lower resistance.

If the lights are one, they will be drawing power, and resistance is linked to power somehow (I know V= I/R, but don't know how this links with the flasher relay)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on March 02, 2009, 05:06:39 pm
Quoting: Jamieg285
What was wrong with the alt?


not charging at all - multimeter on the battery with engine not running and then running at revs is the same reading - 11volts!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 07, 2009, 02:33:07 pm
well, I've had the alt off today but I can't separate the 2 halves to have a look inside.  I can get a rebuild kit from ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ALTERNATOR-REPAIR-KIT--GM--DELCO-CS130_W0QQitemZ400035134189QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090305?IMSfp=TL090305126003r5057

for cheap (haven;t checked UK sources yet) but I can't see how to get the things apart, there appears to be a drive shaft running through the centre of the alt into a bearing in the rear casing according to the pic on that listing but I haven't got anything large enough to clamp the alt in to try to free this & am not 100% sure thats the only thing keeping it together so don;t want to give it too much welly (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 07, 2009, 04:57:14 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
but I can't see how to get the things apart


Problem solved, Cheers Dean. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on March 07, 2009, 05:24:14 pm
No problem. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 07, 2009, 08:47:52 pm
Hmm the contacts on the 3 wires from the wire coil jobby appear to be soldered to rectifier...

hopefully they'll come apart ok, judging by the pic on the auction the new one has similar contacts on it.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on March 07, 2009, 10:19:46 pm
thats a good value rebuild kit, (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

i bet the bearings here would cost more than that...!!  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

im sure someone can solder the wires on for ya....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 07, 2009, 10:21:10 pm
I can solder the new ones on no probs, i'm just hoping I can get the old ones off...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on March 07, 2009, 11:14:07 pm
if not, you can solder onto the [old]wires and insulate with heatshrink sleeving ..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on March 08, 2009, 09:32:32 am
some connections to motors and similar, have a type of spot weld as the plating on the contact is unable to take solder ...so the tip above would apply.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 10, 2009, 09:19:27 pm
Update:

I got the P/S rear calliper changed this evening, it lost a lot of brake fluid in the processes though (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif) so i'm going to have a nice big airlock to clear!

Does Anyone (2 bods maybe just to make things easy?) fancy some garage time tomorrow evening to help me bleed the brakes through once i've changed the D/S calliper? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Pic:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/NewRearCalliperPSMar09.jpg)

as you might have noticed I decided not to paint them...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on March 10, 2009, 09:25:20 pm
Them rotors look a bit rusty now, Zinc wash?(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 10, 2009, 09:28:48 pm
na I can't be bothered with that, anyway those bits of brakes are always rusty...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on March 10, 2009, 09:38:38 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
na I can't be bothered with that, anyway those bits of brakes are always rusty...


No mine... I bought zinc palted disks, and even though the car has sat for quite some time, not even the contact area that the zinc has been rubbed off of is that rusty... The galvanic effect of the zinc on the rest of the discs appears to be protecting the bare steel...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on March 10, 2009, 10:02:31 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Does Anyone (2 bods maybe just to make things easy?) fancy some garage time tomorrow evening to help me bleed the brakes through once i've changed the D/S calliper?


If yer stuck give us a shout . . . it's my parents anniversary tomorrow so I should make an appearance there at some point . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 10, 2009, 10:42:54 pm
Quoting: Titsy
No mine... I bought zinc palted disks, and even though the car has sat for quite some time, not even the contact area that the zinc has been rubbed off of is that rusty... The galvanic effect of the zinc on the rest of the discs appears to be protecting the bare steel


Really?

Hmm didn't realise it was that effective
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 10, 2009, 10:44:07 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
If yer stuck give us a shout . . . it's my parents anniversary tomorrow so I should make an appearance there at some point . . .


cheers dude, it won't be early evening that i'll need a hand as I still have the other calliper to change
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on March 11, 2009, 08:38:49 am
Quoting: FUBAR
it won't be early evening that i'll need a hand as I still have the other calliper to change


Hmm, O.K . . . I may be about I may not, then. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Give us a bell - I'll see where I am. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on March 11, 2009, 12:42:17 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
as you might have noticed I decided not to paint them...


IMHO you'll regret that (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR
anyway those bits of brakes are always rusty...


Mine aren't (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on March 11, 2009, 06:28:20 pm
Mine either zinc is what most use nowadays, depends how fussed you are about it though
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 11, 2009, 06:38:38 pm
how much did it cost to get yours done martyn?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on March 11, 2009, 07:21:56 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
how much did it cost to get yours done martyn?


The front brake discs I had bright Zinc plated for £30 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

They are currently our Lazy Suzy on the dinning room table (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

The Zee currently just has painted discs ( gold caliper paint ).

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/fbody007/Z28/CIMG5350.jpg?t=1236799231\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>They are starting to look a bit scabby after 6 years of Wonderwheels etc but it was cheap and easy to do [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 11, 2009, 11:01:41 pm
Hmm (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)  not now, no money

Got the other calliper fitted & the brakes bled through this evening (Cheers for the help Dean(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif))

Unable to test it as the alternator is currently in Bits on my desk awaiting that rebuild kit to arrive from the US...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 19, 2009, 10:18:11 pm
Alternator stripped, cleaned, painted, rebuilt with shiny new parts, Re-assembled & refitted (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

And... it works perfectly, Double(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) voltage back up to 14.6v running (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Cost: £44 (half of which was shipping) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Piccies:

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/RefurbedAlt1.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/RefurbedAlt2.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/RefurbedAlt4.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on March 19, 2009, 11:07:10 pm
Most excellent work, young Fubes ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 19, 2009, 11:51:31 pm
1 Question, how often would the Serp belt need changing?

I don't have any concerns with it atm as it looks fine, Rocky/Mike do you know if it was changed while you had the car?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on March 20, 2009, 11:37:52 am
well done .....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

it looks like a bought one....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

great to do something ya self and save mega bucks too.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on March 20, 2009, 12:38:08 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Most excellent work, young Fubes !



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Quoting: FUBAR
1 Question, how often would the Serp belt need changing?



They start to crack & split around the ridges (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: EDGE on March 20, 2009, 12:42:21 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
1 Question, how often would the Serp belt need changing?

I don't have any concerns with it atm as it looks fine, Rocky/Mike do you know if it was changed while you had the car?


if i ever have any doubts abut when a serp belt was installed I just install a new one, they're normally under £15 and less than 10 minutes to swap.  You can always bung the old one in the boot as a spare to get you out of an emergency
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on March 20, 2009, 01:20:58 pm
Well the IROC had its first proper run out of 2009 this morning & what a day for it eh (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) Its now also had its first wash of 2009 too since coming out of the Barn & being repaired (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

No problems with the new callipers on the back, no leaks etc which is nice to see (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

and got my £115 back from JWR for the old Calliper cores too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Happy Fubes today (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on March 20, 2009, 07:07:20 pm
We never changed the belt as it was ok, just check for cracks or change as they are cheap and very quick to change
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Gator on March 20, 2009, 07:20:32 pm
always keep a spare serp on board
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on March 20, 2009, 08:08:57 pm
Change it, matey . . . I know somewhere local who'll match it for you . . the one for my Zee cost £14, IIRC, and it was the "expensive" option. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

They take seconds to fit, too.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 05, 2009, 09:01:42 pm
F'in fantastic...   (Sorry for large pic but you kinda need the detail on this)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/BoltDamage-Wheel.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>Seems some tw@t forgot to tighten one of the P/S rear calliper bolts up properly which then went walkabout @75mph on the M1 today.The Calliper then moved & hit the wheel, & the 2 top groves were caused by the Handbrake mechanism lever [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Gonna take it to Pristene this week to see if it needs repairing.

on the + side, the calliper/pads/disc/exhaust/floor & rear bumper are all unscathed.

doesn;t stop me being f'kin annoyed at myself tho.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on April 05, 2009, 09:28:35 pm
oh no.....sorry to hear that mate, thankfully sounds like it didn't cause too much overall damage - are the caliper & mounting bracketry all ok as well??
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on April 05, 2009, 10:53:54 pm
oh thats a bummer...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
.i was looking at ya wheels this morning, when we were discussing ally corrosion, and thinking how close the calipers sit to the edge of the wheel..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

 oh well it could have been worse.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
might pay to add a spot of locktight on them in future...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on April 06, 2009, 06:51:09 am
Quoting: FUBAR
some tw@t forgot to tighten one of the P/S rear calliper bolts up properly which then went walkabout @75mph on the M1 today.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/slap.gif)

Quoting: art b
might pay to add a spot of locktight on them in future...



Indeedy, ALWAYS wire brush and put some thread lock on caliper bolts (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 06, 2009, 01:48:12 pm
Yep, I know it was stupid (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I can take solace in the fact though that while waiting for the recovery truck (the RAC Van didn't have a bolt big enough) I saw another recovery truck roll past with a car almost identical to Phils on it...   I like to think of it as Karma equalising itself out LOL(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on April 06, 2009, 01:59:35 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on April 06, 2009, 03:04:07 pm
Quoting: F Body
Indeedy,I  ALWAYS wire brush and put some thread lock on caliper bolts,and polish the bolt head until it shines.


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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 15, 2009, 09:18:33 pm
New Stainless Bolts arrived today, they're not stock bolts because i couldn't find anything to match... so I changed all 4... so they all match each other (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

And yes... they're all done up fekin tight!!

Insides of both rear wheels have been painted (couldn't do just 1) no idea how long the paint will last but at least there's something on them.
I would have done the front ones too but they were holding the front of the car up (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)  + i'm not convinced I can get those 100% clean for painting.  i'll have a go & see when I've got garage space again.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on April 16, 2009, 06:31:49 am
Quoting: FUBAR
New Stainless Bolts arrived today, they're not stock bolts because i couldn't find anything to match... so I changed all 4... so they all match each other

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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on April 16, 2009, 06:45:44 am
Quoting: FUBAR
And yes... they're all done up fekin tight!!


Yes but have you put thread lock on (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 16, 2009, 06:55:52 am
yes. not gallons of it but yes.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on April 16, 2009, 11:35:47 am
Quoting: FUBAR
yes. not gallons of it but yes.



Sorted (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 26, 2009, 10:02:28 pm
Got another Trophy at the show today, won Best 80s (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on April 27, 2009, 06:47:02 am
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) well done you (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on April 27, 2009, 06:50:45 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Got another Trophy at the show today, won Best 80s



Amazing what a bit of (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/polish.gif) does (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on April 27, 2009, 07:12:00 am
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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on April 27, 2009, 11:10:02 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Got another Trophy at the show today, won Best 80s

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rob on April 27, 2009, 11:50:32 am
Many Congratulations(http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Sports/Awards_and_Trophies/Trophy.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 08, 2009, 05:49:00 pm
What was it I said LAST BLOODY WEEKEND about i think something is going to go wrong with the IROC... Well i'm not a happy bunny...


Driving home from the meet yesterday me & Vicky noticed that stuff was behaving strangely, long story short I think the alternator is f'kd again (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

I was sat there watching the volt gauge slowly droping on the way home & today when I've tried to start it to test to see if there is a difference in voltages when its running/ not running there's not enough power to start the car.

Battery is reading 11.55v across the terminals

So... can anyone else think of anything else it could be before I go I buy a new alternator (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)  I've checked the terminals etc on battery & live wire @ the alternator end & all are tight & have voltage.
There doesn't appear to be anything wrong (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)


<== NOT Happy, thats both jobs I have done on the car this year have ended up coming back to bite me in the arse (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 08, 2009, 05:50:51 pm
Ooh and FYI I blame Titsy, somehow he's managed to palm off his Yanks weekend Car breaking onto ME!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/greenrocket.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on June 09, 2009, 04:56:14 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Ooh and FYI I blame Titsy, somehow he's managed to palm off his Yanks weekend Car breaking onto ME!!


lol i like that thinking

Quoting: FUBAR
So... can anyone else think of anything else it could be before I go I buy a new alternator


I would say try jumping / charging the battery, start the car and see what voltage the alternator is putting out first, as if you spend ~100 quid on a new one and is NOT that....i imagine you'd be a bit pished off!!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on June 09, 2009, 07:53:52 am
It sounds likely that the alt is fried again.  Regardless of whether you rebuild or replace, I'd be researching to try and find reasons why they are failing.

No point buying a new one if that will go the same way due to another problem elsewhere.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on June 09, 2009, 11:02:21 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Ooh and FYI I blame Titsy, somehow he's managed to palm off his Yanks weekend Car breaking onto ME!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

No me guv...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 09, 2009, 11:52:10 am
Quoting: Jamieg285
I'd be researching to try and find reasons why they are failing.


Any ideas on that?
It died by itself over winter last time, I'd assumed through last of use.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 10, 2009, 07:36:50 am
If you buy an alternator from a company over here do you get a warranty ?

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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on June 10, 2009, 07:55:58 am
Quoting: Roadkill

If you buy an alternator from a company over here do you get a warranty ?


Yup indeed you do - think it 12 month - i bought mine for the Camaro from my brother in law who cross matched it for me - ryan - if you struggle to find one in teh UK - gimme a shout and we'll see if he can cross match again (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on June 10, 2009, 11:02:49 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Any ideas on that?


Sorry no.  I've never looked too deep into alternator troubles.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 10, 2009, 11:21:29 am
I'd suggest - unfortunately - getting a new one with warranty and seeing what happens to that.

At least if that one f*cks up you're covered. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on June 10, 2009, 11:23:48 am
Quoting: FUBAR
It died by itself over winter last time, I'd assumed through last of use.


Can't see an alternator dying through lack of use (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Was it the rectifyer or windings that gave up last time (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 10, 2009, 12:37:55 pm
Quoting: F Body
Was it the rectifyer or windings that gave up last time


I changed all the gubbins at the back of the Alt & it worked fine... so Rectifier...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 10, 2009, 01:01:49 pm
Info Dump. (inc VAT)
GM CS130 Alt
£174 - US Auto  (probably Re-manufactured)
£186 - JWR (£25 core charge deductable) Re-manufactured
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on June 10, 2009, 01:50:23 pm
fyi my one for teh 4th gen was 100 quid...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on June 10, 2009, 04:15:05 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
the Alt & it worked fine... so Rectifier...


Well electrickery isn't my area of expertise, but there is no way an alternator can send too much charge to the rectifier. so the problem is with the rectifier it self or some unlikely wiring issue (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Gator on June 10, 2009, 04:34:36 pm
got one for my safari from the US £60 ebay
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 10, 2009, 04:41:05 pm
Quoting: F Body
or some unlikely wiring issue


There's not really much wiring for an alternator... big cable goes from back of Alt to +ve battery terminal and is done up tight.

Computer pluggy thing plugs into top of alt.

Done
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on June 10, 2009, 04:47:09 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
£174 - US Auto (probably Re-manufactured)
£186 - JWR (£25 core charge deductable) Re-manufactured


you can get an ACDelco one from Rock Auto for £117 delivered, and that's not taking into accound the 5% discount...

EDIT:

Correction, £114...

£111 ish with the discount
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on June 10, 2009, 04:51:07 pm
I'm pretty sure they pre-pay the VAT / Duty too (they did with my lights) so that's all in...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 10, 2009, 06:23:29 pm
Indeed

Rock Auto $166.42 incl shipping.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: EDGE on June 10, 2009, 06:43:46 pm
Quoting: Titsy
I'm pretty sure they pre-pay the VAT / Duty too (they did with my lights) so that's all in...


I'm not sure they do dude... if it comes by fedex you can expect a bill 28 days after delivery (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on June 10, 2009, 07:15:37 pm
Quoting: EDGE
I'm not sure they do dude... if it comes by fedex you can expect a bill 28 days after delivery


Not when I ordered, it was all payed up front so it sailed through customs... Might only be an option on priority shipping, not sure...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 10, 2009, 07:39:37 pm
Right, Charged battery, took of alternator, had a look around & resoldered a couple of joints & replaced all on car.

Started Car, at first excellent 14.65v (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) I thought but odd as I hadn;t really done anything.  It then after about a minute & while I was in the car the volt gauge dropped to 13...  checked it again across the battery and it had dropped to 12.34v (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

everything is tight, there are no problems with the wiring & everything looks fine, so I can only assume that something to do with my rebuild of my old alt is not working properly (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Basically i'm going to buy a new alt & give up with this one, which is dissappointing because I thought I'd done well repairing it myself before (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

I'm going to order it from Rock auto & order a bunch of the service items I wanted to get too.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 10, 2009, 07:41:24 pm
Oh and whats also odd, is I let it run for a while to warm it up, and even off choke it seemed to be hunting for an idle, will the drop in voltage cause this?

Also the Oil Pressure gauge was jumping about a bit too which is odd? could the pressure sender be faulty?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 10, 2009, 08:38:38 pm
Order placed.
along with some other service bits needed imminently (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on June 11, 2009, 07:42:06 am
Have you taken a reading between the alt +ve and batt -ve?

I'm not leccy expert but it is possible that the batt shows a higher volt reading whilst it is recharging from the start up, and then drops once it's up to full charge?

Quoting: FUBAR
Oh and whats also odd, is I let it run for a while to warm it up, and even off choke it seemed to be hunting for an idle, will the drop in voltage cause this?


Sounds like it's running lean.  I don't suppose it's very easy to pull a plug and get a reading on yours?

Quoting: FUBAR
Also the Oil Pressure gauge was jumping about a bit too which is odd? could the pressure sender be faulty?


I'm assuming it's an electric sender, not mechanical?  If so the sender could be suspect, but it could also be surges in pressure?  Have you double checked the oil levels (obvious I know)?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 11, 2009, 09:09:56 am
Quoting: Jamieg285
Have you double checked the oil levels (obvious I know)?


When was the oil last changed as well - unlikely that it's that blocked, I know - but it may be worth using a "flushing" additive before changing the oil next. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: EDGE on June 11, 2009, 09:48:55 am
only problem with flushing things are theat they take out all the little carbon deposits that are busy filling little cracks, holes, and divots etc.... sometimes the flush can be more hassle than its worth... I wouldnt do it on an old car personally.. a mate did it on an old audi 80 and it was never right again....
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on June 11, 2009, 10:26:42 am
id agree wiff edge,
 with modern oils ya shouldnt need a flush as they have detergents ,  many engines have gone bang afterwards,
 i used to flush engines and had no problems ...but theres always a chance of it going wrong...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 11, 2009, 12:21:30 pm
I've always flushed motors before changing oil . . . . . If it's the sludge and gunge that's holding your motor together you've got far bigger problems than a few potential oil leaks to worry about !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I've never had issues with flushing before - I've used the stuff in nearly all of my cars - the oldest being over 50 at the time.  No issues, ever.

Flushing coolant systems is something else entirely, though . . . .
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 11, 2009, 12:49:22 pm
Last oil Change was last year, next one is as soon as the new filter etc (incl a new sender) arrives from Rock Auto. (should have been done before the show season started but it got delayed)
Oil levels are fine.

Quoting: Jamieg285
between the alt +ve and batt -ve?

Yes, when it was sat before running it was about 12.55v, when I first started the car is was up to a steady 14.65v then after the volt gauge in the car dropped while I was watching it it had gone down to 12.34v & was slowly falling.

Quoting: Roadkill
"flushing" additive


1 for (with follow up) and 2 against... i'll think about it.

Quoting: Jamieg285
Sounds like it's running lean. I don't suppose it's very easy to pull a plug and get a reading on yours?


What do you mean a reading?  No its not difficult to get to a plug to test, to test all 8 though would be more tricky on some of them.

I also have a new Fuel Filter at home too which i've had for ages, might be worth changing that when all the rest of servicing is done.

The only complaint running wise is that the valve stems on 2 cylinders leak slightly which gunks up the plugs meaning I have to pull those 2 every few months & clean them up.  This is not a major running issue, but is a MAJOR issue to repair properly.



Oh and I managed to snap my T40 Torx bit putting the alt back on last night... luckily its a Halfords Professional one so I just handed it over in my lunch hour & was simply presented with a shiny new one (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)  Halfords Prof. FTW
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on June 11, 2009, 02:47:21 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
What do you mean a reading? No its not difficult to get to a plug to test, to test all 8 though would be more tricky on some of them.


One or two would give you a general reading, which is better than none, but won't tell you if you are having a problem with a specific cylinder.

To read, remove and compare to the pics in the Haynes manuals.  Ideally looking for a nice tan colour.  White is hot (lean), black is rich, and there are a bunch of other signs, but they are rarer and indicate real problems.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 11, 2009, 03:35:09 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
The only complaint running wise is that the valve stems on 2 cylinders leak slightly which gunks up the plugs meaning I have to pull those 2 every few months & clean them up. This is not a major running issue, but is a MAJOR issue to repair properly.


It is possible to replace the stem seals WITHOUT removing the heads . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 11, 2009, 04:25:38 pm
Quoting: Jamieg285
To read, remove and compare to the pics in the Haynes manuals.


Oh thats what you mean, yeah thats easy enough.
I was thinking you meant screw some sort of fancy device into each plug hole & run the engine for some reason. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill
It is possible to replace the stem seals WITHOUT removing the heads . . .


I think i know what you mean here, i've got a vague mental image of a strange contraption that stops the valves dropping...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 11, 2009, 04:51:10 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
i've got a vague mental image of a strange contraption that stops the valves dropping...


You can also thread rope into the cylinder in question via the spark plug hole, then manually turn the block over to compress the rope against the valves as well, hence stopping them drop - apparently.

You can get a "in situ" valve spring compressor to do such work.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Gator on June 11, 2009, 05:38:24 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: FUBAR
i've got a vague mental image of a strange contraption that stops the valves dropping...


You can also thread rope into the cylinder in question via the spark plug hole, then manually turn the block over to compress the rope against the valves as well, hence stopping them drop - apparently.

You can get a "in situ" valve spring compressor to do such work.



you can get a false spark plug that connects to a compressor that stops the little buggers falling in (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 12, 2009, 04:46:07 pm
Quoting: FUBAR 10 Jun 2009 21:38:38
Order placed.


Order Rec'd all present & correct(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Nice to see Rockauto live up to their shipping reputation again (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Now all I need to get is a batch of 10w40 Oily stuff & some ATF

ATF - is it all the same? and I seem to remember the 700R4 needing 5 litres??  will look in the manual.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 12, 2009, 05:00:15 pm
Manual says 4-5 pints (so 2.25 - 2.75 Litres max) as a starting point, not 5 litres LOL
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on June 12, 2009, 09:51:38 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
10w40 Oily stuff


I think i got a 5L bottle of this if you want it ??
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on June 12, 2009, 11:10:44 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Now all I need to get is a batch of 10w40 Oily stuff & some ATF


FYI, you get twice as much magnatec for your money at CostCo...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 13, 2009, 01:14:43 am
Quoting: Titsy
FYI, you get twice as much magnatec for your money at CostCo...


exactly what I was planning TBH, gives me reserve for Stem seal consumption replacement.

Although i've lost my 1l topup bottle which has really annoyed me (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 13, 2009, 01:03:21 pm
Have done the easy stuff today, changed the Alternator, Serp belt & Air filters, didn't take long funnily enough.

All is now fine Voltage wise so i tested the car out by driving to Costco & Halfords to buy all the Oils & stuff I need for tomorrow (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Happy Days (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 14, 2009, 07:59:38 pm
Thankyou very much for your help today Steve (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Jobs done this weekend:
Oil & filter Change
Fuel Filter Change
Transmission Fluid & filter change
Alternator Replaced
Air Filters & Serp Belt changed

Still to do:
Swap out Oil Pressure sender (provided i've bought the right one)
Rear diff Oil ??? dunno what I need for this yet.

Was please to see No metal particles at all in the Trans Pan, there was some sludgy stuff stuck to the magnet in the bottom but thats pretty normal.  The fluid was ok too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on June 14, 2009, 08:06:10 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Rear diff Oil ??? dunno what I need for this yet.


Gasket and oil (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on June 16, 2009, 11:29:45 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Quoting: Jamieg285
I'd be researching to try and find reasons why they are failing.


Any ideas on that?
It died by itself over winter last time, I'd assumed through last of use.



Responses from my search:

Q: What causes Alts to die?

It depends on what you mean by "die"
If you are lucky, your alternator will die of old age. It takes 25-30 years and the bearings dry out and fail. In this case, the electrical parts still work and all you need to do is put in new bearings.
If you put on a lot of miles, the alternator will "die" long before the bearings give up. You will wear the brushes down to the point where they don't work. In this case, new brushes fix it.
Electrical and electronic failures can happen at any time. Electronics doesn't need a reason to fail. It just happens. You can lose the diodes or the regulator at anytime they decide to die. Or they can die because the alternator is being overloaded. A car that has lots of electrical accessories will almost surely experience more and faster alternator failures than a car with few accessories. Electric fans on radiators and rear window grid defrosters put a lot of load on electrical systems so they cause lots of early failures of alternators.
And, finally, other causes of failed alternators are jump-starting a car or disconnecting the battery with the engine running. These things can overload the alternator causing failures.

Heat, especially in a third gen. Weak battery, low resistance leads to higher voltage, kills the diodes over time. Bad internal regulator, same deal. Rebuilds with a lifetime warranty are the way to go sometimes.

A short can draw power continuously and kill alternators. I had that problem on the 81 until we finally tracked down the short.




I'd give each of those a check over.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 16, 2009, 11:48:20 am
- Bearings, were fine, no play in them at all, even after I removed it this time.
- Heat, it get s what it gets, can;t change that
- Weak Battery - Battery was replaced when I had the alarm fitted and I have never had anyproblems with it, even after extended down times.
- A Short - this would be VERY noticable surely? as in a dead battery on a extremely regular basis & other stuff not working.
- Internals - possible, it could have been installer error the 1 thing I had trouble with when rebuilding the alt was soldering the connections, my soldering iron could not get them hot enough to properly tin the solder right into the 4 connections so that could have caused a problem.
- High Drain - The only non stock addition electrics wise is the amp in the boot which has a blown channel (I think) I don't know how to disconnect this.  I've never been that worried about the stereo in the car so have never done anything with it since I bought it.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 16, 2009, 12:14:46 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Rear diff Oil ??? dunno what I need for this yet


Quoting: F Body
Gasket and oil


Is yours an LSD ? - If so you'll need specific LSD oil or an additive.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on June 16, 2009, 03:19:33 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Is yours an LSD ? - If so you'll need specific LSD oil or an additive.



GM Part No. GM1052358  - 118ml / 4 fl.oz for £8.44 the last time I bought some (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 16, 2009, 05:36:25 pm
Quoting: F Body
last time I bought some


where from?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 17, 2009, 12:58:54 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Is yours an LSD ? - If so you'll need specific LSD oil or an additive.


Indeed it is, part of the reason why I didn't buy any diff oil was that I couldn't see any LSD Additive in Halfords.

On a Separate note, I was looking at the diff covers (like Deans one) on summit & I cannot find ANY that are right, The Diff on the IROC has 9 Bolts on it, and ALL of the ones that came up in searches by make/model and even manually were either 10,12 or 14Bolts (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

anyone got any ideas what the diff is?  All I know is that thirdgen.org technical page says that all the LSDs were Borg Warner and 2.77:1 ratio without the G92 option.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on June 17, 2009, 01:12:08 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Quoting: F Body
last time I bought some

where from?


http://www.bauer-millett.com/#/parts

I usually call in when I passing ( it's in Manchester City Centre ) but when I mail order anything it usually arrives the next day (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

NB : Genuine GM Parts, not USless Auto's Chinese copies (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 17, 2009, 02:00:44 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
The Diff on the IROC has 9 Bolts on it


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on June 17, 2009, 07:23:36 pm
9 bolt is a borg warner, I have just bought one to recondition for mine as they are alot stronger than the GM 10 bolts, Its just when they go wrong the parts are harder to get hold of, Diff covers are pricey for them too.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 17, 2009, 09:44:19 pm
Quoting: Rocky
they are alot stronger than the GM 10 bolts


Thats good to know (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Quoting: Rocky
Its just when they go wrong the parts are harder to get hold of


Thats not good to know, better make sure Its looked after then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Quoting: Rocky
Diff covers are pricey for them too.


Boo (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif) Know anywhere that has them? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on June 17, 2009, 10:21:00 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
The Diff on the IROC has 9 Bolts on it



I guess the gasket i've got is of no use then... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 17, 2009, 10:36:18 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Quoting: Rocky
Diff covers are pricey for them too.

Boo  Know anywhere that has them?


http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/camarofirebird82-92taperformance9-boltborg-warnerrearendsupportdiffcoverincludesreplacementgasket.aspx

Eep (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on June 17, 2009, 11:03:54 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Eep


That's no more expensive than the 10-bolt versions...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 18, 2009, 07:18:38 am
Quoting: Titsy
That's no more expensive than the 10-bolt versions...


Nope.  

The cost of feeding the shiny addiction, unfortunately. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on June 18, 2009, 07:24:22 am
It more than just a standard shiny cover too.  Do you need the re-inforced one?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 18, 2009, 12:22:30 pm
No, TBH I doubt i'll change it for a while, it was just a curiosity more than anything.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on June 18, 2009, 06:27:31 pm
Im looking for a good one for mine, if i find one i will let you know.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 18, 2009, 06:29:41 pm
Quoting: Rocky
Im looking for a good one for mine, if i find one i will let you know.


Cool cheers dude.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 06, 2009, 11:54:50 am
MOT Booked, Thursday 5pm.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on July 06, 2009, 12:03:18 pm
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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 10, 2009, 12:11:17 pm
I wasn't very well yesterday... had to cancel MOT.

Now 5pm on Monday 13th...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on July 10, 2009, 01:44:54 pm
Quoting: FUBAR

I wasn't very well yesterday... had to cancel MOT.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif) hope u better

Quoting: FUBAR

Now 5pm on Monday 13th...

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on July 10, 2009, 03:38:32 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
I wasn't very well yesterday... had to cancel MOT.



Oink - Oink (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 10, 2009, 06:00:20 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
On a Separate note, I was looking at the diff covers (like Deans one) on summit & I cannot find ANY that are right, The Diff on the IROC has 9 Bolts on it, and ALL of the ones that came up in searches by make/model and even manually were either 10,12 or 14Bolts  

anyone got any ideas what the diff is? All I know is that thirdgen.org technical page says that all the LSDs were Borg Warner and 2.77:1 ratio without the G92 option.





oooooh, i remember those.. thats a strong axle. might be worth cross checking some holden models, as i believe it was an australian design axle.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 10, 2009, 06:19:53 pm
Quoting: philoldsmobile
as i believe it was an australian design axle


Its possible, as the rear Callipers are Aussie
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on July 10, 2009, 08:54:37 pm
Yeah all 9 bolt rear end parts come from Aus
You got that manifold pipe on yet?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 10, 2009, 09:39:53 pm
nope, i'm still trying to find out what gaskets it needs for the collector end, US auto didn't have anything listed.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: HardRockCamaro on July 11, 2009, 11:02:07 am
87 Camaro:
"G92 and L98 (B2L) cars finally got the Borg-Warner HD 7.75 inch four pinion rear end, produced by GM Holden's Limited of Australia (Firebird WS6 cars went to this unit in 1986). These units can be identified by their 9 bolt (rather than 10) differential cover that has a rubber plug. The Borg-Warner logo is also cast into the bottom of the differential case. This rear axle came with tapered rather than straight roller bearings and a cone-clutch rather than disc-clutch limited slip unit. These units came painted black from the factory while most others were bare metal."


This site might be useful?

http://www.9bolt.com/



It is stronger than the normal 10 bolt but that's not saying much...

However if you're going to put serious power through you can easily mod a 10 bolt to do so (up to a point) whereas parts are rare and expensive for the 9 bolt which makes it less practical for upgrades.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on July 11, 2009, 12:38:20 pm
I just got a BW for mine for £30 just needs new spider gears which isnt bad as i get good trade from 9bolt.com. I prefer the BW as if you get axel snap the rear wheel comes off on the 10 bolt but the BW is bolted externally. Also they are easier to service. The Dana 44 is the strongest on the market for the 3rd gen
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 11, 2009, 02:09:51 pm
Quoting: HardRockCamaro
This site might be useful?


Added to Faves.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 13, 2009, 05:08:59 pm
MOT Fine (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

did roughly 1950 miles last year...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on July 13, 2009, 07:13:42 pm
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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on July 13, 2009, 08:51:42 pm
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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 14, 2009, 09:13:30 pm
Ok I'm tearing my hair out over this...

Does anyne know where I can get new Manifold - Y-Pipe Collector gaskets for my car??? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I know there's some in there because I looked when it was up on the ramp @ Paragon yesterday

I can't find anywhere that has them...  and i'd really rather not reuse the existing ones

Rocky any suggestions / contacts?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on July 14, 2009, 10:15:24 pm
can you make them from a pattern.......(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 14, 2009, 10:36:44 pm
they look like fairly chunky rubber(?) things, so probably no (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on July 15, 2009, 07:09:15 am
There is only a steel insert which you clean and re-use
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on July 15, 2009, 07:22:56 am
Are (3-holed) tri-angular in shape ?

I doubt they'd be rubber . . .
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 15, 2009, 12:57:35 pm
Quoting: Rocky
There is only a steel insert which you clean and re-use



Really? hmm fair doos

Quoting: Roadkill
Are they (3-holed) tri-angular in shape ?


Nope, 2 bolts, they aren't like 2 flanges (huh huh) that bolt together, more like 2 flared pipes that have something clamped inbetween them (from what I can tell anyway)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on July 15, 2009, 02:12:36 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
more like 2 flared pipes that have


Like a ball-in-socket connection ?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 15, 2009, 04:47:06 pm
seems like it yeah...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on July 15, 2009, 08:26:34 pm
I have one off a car so will get a pic for you tomorrow if i remember.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 15, 2009, 09:09:23 pm
excellent, cheers m8 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on July 16, 2009, 07:47:03 am
The ball-in-socket connections on the GMC didn't have gaskets . . . . Just two bolts clamping them together.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on July 16, 2009, 05:40:18 pm
Here you go you can put a bit of exhaust paste on them if they are worn a bit but normally just need bolting up
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/clairecar/001-6.jpg)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/clairecar/002-6.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on July 16, 2009, 05:46:03 pm
Quoting: Rocky
Here you go


Rocky is Da man (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 16, 2009, 06:06:17 pm
Excellent cheers m8, all makes sense now (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 23, 2009, 07:45:00 pm
Ryan - Pics from today are here -> http://www.yanksrule.co.uk/temp/Ryan/
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 23, 2009, 08:58:59 pm
Cheers Ian.

Explanation of the Pics, we got the new Stainless Y-Pipe fitted this weekend (eventually)  It fits perfectly, the cat was exactly the right length to fill the gap left for it after the Y-Pipe and after ensuring everything was done up tightly there are no blows (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Only hitch was that in the process of removing the old pipe we sheared 2 of the studs that are in the log manifolds (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)  Luckily Dean was the man with the right tools for the job so after drilling out the old studs we Tapped new threads into the manifold & modified 2 bols that Dean had to replace the broken studs (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

We also swapped out the Oil Pressure sender & that is now working fine too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Many thanks to Dean & Ian for their help & loan of tools this weekend, its was invaluable (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mkb.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on August 23, 2009, 09:29:58 pm
Glad it all got sorted . . . to be honest it could've gone alot worse . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 24, 2009, 07:56:51 am
No probs ryan - glad to be of help - as dean said it could have been worse but we got it all done so (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on August 24, 2009, 09:53:10 am
nice teamwork....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
.thats what its all about....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mkb.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on August 24, 2009, 09:58:57 am
Quoting: ianjpage
http://www.yanksrule.co.uk/temp/Ryan/



looks like ya need, the OCD polisher under there......(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/polish.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on August 24, 2009, 11:40:23 am
Quoting: art b
looks like ya need, the OCD polisher under there......



Shocking (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

[img]http://www.yanksrule.co.uk/temp/Ryan/230820091754.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 24, 2009, 12:44:33 pm
yeah well, compared to yours Martyn its always gonna look worse underneath.

I'd have to dismantle everything to make all that surface rust look decent properly, and the rest of the car is all undersealed anyway and is fine.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on August 24, 2009, 01:01:11 pm
I did have 1 worried moment driving back from Dean's yesterday afternoon with the T-Tops off, I thought the computer had thrown a Code & lit the SES light... but then I turned the corner and and the sun changed angle & it "went out" so I figured it was ok... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on August 24, 2009, 01:14:46 pm
Quoting: FUBAR

I did have 1 worried moment driving back from Dean's yesterday afternoon with the T-Tops off, I thought the computer had thrown a Code & lit the SES light... but then I turned the corner and and the sun changed angle & it "went out" so I figured it was ok...


LOL thats a n00b moment hehehe (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 25, 2010, 03:45:07 pm
Won a Trophy this weekend (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Best 1980s (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Gator on April 25, 2010, 04:15:31 pm
well done you (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on April 25, 2010, 05:13:16 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Won a Trophy this weekend

Best 1980s


Well done that man (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Gotta say that when you were following me to Billing last weekend, the old Gal looked so cool in my rear view mirror (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on April 25, 2010, 05:41:25 pm
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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on April 25, 2010, 05:42:35 pm
well done mate :)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 25, 2010, 08:08:25 pm
Cheers guys (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on April 26, 2010, 07:28:49 am
was good to see ya get a prize for best 80's car at the uk spring nats  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
....and good to see you,chris,titsy,jo and monkey on the sat nite...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on April 26, 2010, 12:06:32 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Best 1980s


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

You'll be needing a cabinet, soon. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on April 26, 2010, 12:13:59 pm
Well done matey... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 26, 2010, 12:21:49 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
You'll be needing a cabinet, soon


got 5 now (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
its a very nice bonus to get them, I never expect any TBH (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on April 26, 2010, 12:33:00 pm
Quoting: FUBAR

its a very nice bonus to get them, I expect any TBH


lol - you expect them hey (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 26, 2010, 06:40:39 pm
Quoting: ianjpage
ol - you expect them hey  


LOL edited (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on April 26, 2010, 08:58:15 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 05, 2010, 11:46:52 pm
Small Update:

The IROC made its video debut recently for a friend of mine who makes music videos & stuff like that...  The whole video was shot in MK and involved a few of my friends too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Albeit a bit part it turns out in the end but still kinda cool
(See approx 1/3 and 2/3 through the vid.)

Booka Shade - Bad Love
http://www.colonelblimp.com/view-video/item3859/

(Its just a bit of shame about the actual song... its ok... ish, apparantly they're a very well known German Electronic group...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif))
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on May 06, 2010, 12:19:24 am
How did he produce that 'slit' light effect?

Bloody good video, nice use of the car too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on May 06, 2010, 06:54:33 am
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

Well cool, kinda like the video and the car looks (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

NB : Music isn't that bad just very bland (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on May 06, 2010, 10:06:32 am
nice one....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

ideal tune and vid ...for the barren wasteland that is milton keynes...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on May 06, 2010, 11:38:38 am
Quoting: art b
for the barren wasteland that is milton keynes...



I liked what looked like the shadow from the Point Pyramid (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 06, 2010, 12:39:34 pm
Quoting: Andy
How did he produce that 'slit' light effect?


Something to do with shutters & Filters I think... Just overheard bits of jargon (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quoting: F Body
I liked what looked like the shadow from the Point Pyramid


The Point isn't actually a Pyramid, I think that triangle is something near the theater, probably pretending to be 'art' (No not that Art!)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 16, 2010, 10:44:37 am
The IROC Passed its MOT today (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I've only done 1123 miles since last year (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) thats not good is it need to drive it more
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on July 16, 2010, 11:00:03 am
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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on July 16, 2010, 01:47:26 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
The IROC Passed its MOT today
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: EDGE on July 16, 2010, 02:52:02 pm
1123 miles is good going, compared to some (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 16, 2010, 04:30:50 pm
very cool vid - the music is ok, i've heard worse, but thats a great vid! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

-edit- almost sounds like something that would be played in L.A. fitness... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 16, 2010, 06:24:49 pm
Quoting: philoldsmobile
-edit- almost sounds like something that would be played in L.A. fitness


LOL (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Quoting: EDGE
1123 miles is good going, compared to some

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 06, 2010, 11:46:10 am
Quoting: F Body
Quoting: Roadkill
Is yours an LSD ? - If so you'll need specific LSD oil or an additive.


F Body :- GM Part No. GM1052358 - 118ml / 4 fl.oz for £8.44 the last time I bought some


Just ordered this from Bauer Millets...

Now £14.39 +VAT per bottle FYI Martyn

There's some work to be done on my Car over the next month as bits i've ordered over the last 6 months will be put on the Car in my 2 weeks leave, I'll post some more details later when I get home from work.

A Few initial Related questions:

Is it ok to paint the Driveshaft? If so...

Dean, where did you get your Camaro bits Blasted? As it will be easier than manual prepping to get the DS & Rear end done... cost? speed?

Is Driveshaft Balancing a quick process? If so with doing the above it'd be wise to get that checked i'd imagine.

Dean, what paint did you use to paint your Engine Block? as thats the colour I'd want.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 06, 2010, 02:48:38 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Is it ok to paint the Driveshaft? If so...


I'd say so.

Paint may effect the balance, theoretically but if it's allowed to rust then this is likely to throw it out as much or more.

Quoting: FUBAR
Dean, where did you get your Camaro bits Blasted?


Guy over in Leigton Buzzard - I failed to get hold of him on his mobile last time but instead sent my folks down with the bits.

They always turn stuff around the same day - sometimes while you wait but don't expect that !

Quoting: FUBAR
cost?


Depends who you see Prop and axle maybe £30 ??

Quoting: FUBAR
speed?


See above.

Quoting: FUBAR
Is Driveshaft Balancing a quick process? If so with doing the above it'd be wise to get that checked i'd imagine.


Fairly quick and simple - have you got a vibration ?

Quoting: FUBAR
Dean, what paint did you use to paint your Engine Block? as thats the colour I'd want.


Bugger !

I just ordered some more of that on saturday !!

It's VHT Ford Dark Blue - SP125 (from US Auto) :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350313222038&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 06, 2010, 10:17:25 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
It's VHT Ford Dark Blue - SP125 (from US Auto) :


What primer do you use with that? the VHT one?

Quoting: Roadkill
have you got a vibration ?


Yes, its had a noticable vibration at higher speeds for a while which gets worse with further speed...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Just thought while I have to take it off I may as well get it Balanced.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on September 07, 2010, 07:00:27 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Is it ok to paint the Driveshaft? If so...



I painted mine with Smoothrite, didn't seem to make any difference (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)


Quoting: FUBAR
Yes, its had a noticable vibration at higher speeds for a while which gets worse with further speed...



Might be a UJ going ? Although I had a similar issue many years ago with a fairly new Triumph Spitfire (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Did all the obvious things like swapping the wheels around first, then
replaced the prop shaft UJ's, then the drive shaft UJ's, replaced the wheel bearings and still the ruddy thing made a vibration at speed (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on September 07, 2010, 07:47:18 am
Have you checked your idler arm and front steering components, That will cause vibration at speed and is a common fault on 3rd gens? If you have trouble getting blasting done I can media blast most things for you even rubber or plastic
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 07, 2010, 08:18:42 am
Quoting: FUBAR
What primer do you use with that? the VHT one?


None from memory (it's enamel)

Quoting: FUBAR
Yes, its had a noticable vibration at higher speeds for a while which gets worse with further speed...


It's well, well, well worth getting your UJ's done if the prop is off (W.I.M will most like pop them out for you for very little).

As Rocky says (and as I said to you a little while ago (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)) steering components frequently get over-looked as a possible cause of problems.

Most people replace the track rods as they think they'll cause the problem as they have joints to wear . . . . . few people take into consideration the idler and even fewer the metal-to-metal joints on the centre link.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on September 07, 2010, 09:18:32 am
If you're removing the prop to get it balanced, the people doing that would probably be able to replace the joints for you.

I've got the tools to do it, if you are in my area.  You're welcome to use/borrow them.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 07, 2010, 11:44:01 am
Quoting: Rocky
Have you checked your idler arm and front steering components


Oddly enough the whole lot, including the steering box is soon to be replaced because i'm having the full kit that dean got from Spohn because he's switching to a manual steering rack, so that will be all brand new.

Quoting: F Body
Might be a UJ going

Quoting: Roadkill
It's well, well, well worth getting your UJ's done

Quoting: Jamieg285
If you're removing the prop to get it balanced, the people doing that would probably be able to replace the joints for you.


Hmm, ok, I hadn't thought of that.  but I suppose at 128k miles (nearly) the possibility of wear cannot be overlooked anywhere.
I assume i'd need to supply the UJ's.  $29.95 ea @ Spohn

Quoting: Roadkill
None from memory (it's enamel)

Noted
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on September 07, 2010, 11:57:16 am
Quoting: Roadkill

None from memory (it's enamel)


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)

The primer won't be heat resistant like the top coat (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Just make sure you thoroughly clean and degrease.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 07, 2010, 12:33:57 pm
Quoting: Jamieg285
The primer won't be heat resistant like the top coat


Yeah thats what I was thinking, although in all honesty the stuff I want to paint could be done with normal paints rather than the VHT enamel stuff as i'm not painting anything that gets hot... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)  But that paint will be very resistant to any oils, fluids etc etc...

Quoting: Jamieg285
Just make sure you thoroughly clean and degrease.


Definately.

I'll order the UJ's so they're here ready, need to have a think & plan this through... as its evident all this is not going to get done in 2 weeks with a 4 day break in the middle...

Might be worth doing some of the smaller jobs now & leave this lot until Nov onwards when the car will be laid up for winter anyway. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 07, 2010, 02:34:30 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
I assume i'd need to supply the UJ's. $29.95 ea @ Spohn


Most likely - you'll probably find John Woolfe / US Auto will have them in stock for "not alot", though.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 07, 2010, 02:45:45 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
its evident all this is not going to get done in 2 weeks with a 4 day break in the middle...


It'll only take a matter of hours to strip it all off the car . . . . About a day to re-fit.  Painting should take 2 days - but if you plan it right one of them can be the blasting day, too.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Should be do-able - just.

But there'll be no getting up at 2pm !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lazy.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 08, 2010, 12:57:40 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
US Auto will have them in stock for "not alot", though.


Ordered. £25 for the pair.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 08, 2010, 03:26:35 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
£25 for the pair.


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on September 10, 2010, 09:22:49 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
(W.I.M will most like pop them out for you for very little).


Were they the ones down by Tires direct (round corner from andy  oils) as iif so when i down there a couple of weeks ago the unit is all locked up, no signs up and no sign of life there now!!!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 13, 2010, 05:58:58 pm
Well I started off just doing a couple of small jobs today, well I say small, 1/2 the time was spent dismantling the interior.

The main purpose of this after speaking to Ray @ eddies is to get some corrosion protection on the insides of the rear arches where the panel joins the outer wing, but I also decided while all the interior plastics were out to finally remove the 1/2 dead Phoenix Gold amp that has been in the boot for years doing EFF-all & the tidy away the wiring for the old 80's brick carphone kit so that its hidden away. (decided not to fully remove that...)

I also thought i'd put some clear POR15 paint on the boot floors as well, which are utterly MINT as it is (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) total opposite to my Red Z28 where they were missing in places... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I also had a look @ the 3rd Brake light to hopefully make all 5 bulbs consistantly light up as some are a bit intermittent ATM.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on September 13, 2010, 08:09:36 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) good days work then!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 14, 2010, 07:59:55 am
Quoting: ianjpage
Were they the ones down by Tires direct (round corner from andy oils) as iif so when i down there a couple of weeks ago the unit is all locked up, no signs up and no sign of life there now!!!!


They've moved to bigger premises . . . . don't ask me where, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on September 14, 2010, 08:51:27 am
Quoting: Roadkill

They've moved to bigger premises


ahh that would exlpain it!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 14, 2010, 07:41:27 pm
Today was spent finishing off the POR-15 on the back of the car, this included removing the rear bumper cover & assessing what was going on behind there... in reality, not a lot, just lots of nice blue Metal (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

This also gave me the opportunity to remove & clean up all the rear lights & get rid of 20+ years of road grime that has been hiding back there.
(Oh and change a blown sidelight bulb, which I've handily swapped for one from a packet I found in the D/S wing well when I took everything out yesterday (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) the packet had $0.95 on the pricetag so its been in there for a while!!.

Oh FYI the Clear POR-15 Rust preventative paint is every bit as good as the Black stuff, but obviously keeps the body colour underneath (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Couple of Pics:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/por151.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/por152.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/por153.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on September 14, 2010, 07:44:46 pm
Shiny (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on September 15, 2010, 07:50:52 am
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 15, 2010, 10:09:08 pm
Didn't really do a lot on this today, just a couple of little jobs, painted 2 things, put a couple of bits back together, then spent some time playing Battlefield BC2 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quiet day.

Tomorrow is just putting the interior back together as its all in my room ATM, and a couple of small Bolt-twiddling jobs under the hood.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on September 16, 2010, 06:52:28 am
I'm liking the look of the clear POR15 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Me thinks this could find a home on my Zee (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on September 16, 2010, 07:38:38 am
Rust creeps under the clear POR15 it is thicker than the black but not as good rust protection. Is ok on clean steel but not over rust like they say it is. Hot Rod magazine found the same problem when they tested it.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 16, 2010, 10:16:59 am
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
noted, cheers Rich.

Its worth noting not to use the Rust preventative paint on anything that gets a lot of sunlight, best on anything under the car or that is hidden behind stuff like that area.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 16, 2010, 03:25:50 pm
Well its all back together again albeit temporarily... didn't bother taking a pic, everyone's seen that before!

I have to admit i'm facing next week's jobs with a certain amount of trepidation... its a new level of dismantling for me...  the interior stuff is a Piece of Piss, I could probably do that blindfolded now!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

The most worrying thing is that the car NEEDS to be fully functional on Saturday as i'm going paintballing (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/snipersmilie.gif) and it has to get me there & back.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 16, 2010, 07:14:16 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
The most worrying thing is that the car NEEDS to be fully functional on Saturday


Never restrict your time on such things too heavily . . . you'll end up rushing and messing something up.

Best make sure you've definately got the time to get everything done first.

If you're talking about the rear-end stuff there are a butt-load of potential issues you can run into - brittle brake lines & fittings spring to mind, initially . . . . sheared bolts that you haven't got replacements of, etc . . .

Be careful ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 16, 2010, 08:17:50 pm
Yeah thats what i'm thinking, i'm going to see if I can share a lift with someone for the Saturday, at least that way I can relax a bit.

If I can't I may well leave this until Nov time when the car won't be going anywhere anyway.

Also would anyone like to help out? apart from the extra Brains & pair of hands/eyes that stuff is bloody heavy!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on September 17, 2010, 07:29:45 am
Quoting: FUBAR

Also would anyone like to help out?


Yeah can do- although obviously not during the week days though....
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on September 17, 2010, 07:39:15 am
If it's left till later in the year I may be able to help out.

Having spent most of last weekend under mine doing the exhaust, and the upcoming week of window out surgery, I need to do some 'family' time for the next few weeks.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on September 22, 2010, 08:24:28 pm
Quoting: ianjpage

Quoting: FUBAR

Also would anyone like to help out?


Yeah can do- although obviously not during the week days though....

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

still doing work / need help or taking a week off??
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on September 23, 2010, 07:47:46 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Also would anyone like to help out?


Just seen this.

That said I'm lacking in transport at the mo - maybe able to get over there sunday afternoon if that helps ?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 23, 2010, 10:53:16 am
This isn't happening this week because of Saturday's driving needs.

I'll probably leave it now until winter hits when the car won't be going anywhere anyway.

Cheers though guys.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on September 23, 2010, 11:07:23 am
ok cool
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: philoldsmobile on September 29, 2010, 12:20:02 pm
vibration in auto thirdgens is very common, there is a bronze bushing in the tail shaft of the gearbox that wears (its usualy got a decent ammount of play by 100,00 miles). if you can grab hold of the front of the prop, and move it about, its highly likely to be the cause, as any movement there effectivley throws the prop out of balance as it shakes around.

the tail shaft extension can be removed, anbd the bush pressed in and out.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 29, 2010, 01:04:12 pm
Quoting: philoldsmobile
if you can grab hold of the front of the prop, and move it about, its highly likely to be the cause


i've tried this before after you'd said about this and I can't feel any movement there so I think its ok.

These jobs will now be done over winter when I donlt have any time constraints, makes it a bit more relaxing...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 11, 2011, 06:36:53 pm
How cool is this...  Dave was playing with his new camera @ the weekend (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://amvo.org/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=17473&g2_serialNumber=1)

http://www.amvo.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15187
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Cunning Plan on April 11, 2011, 07:13:39 pm
Great picture. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on April 11, 2011, 08:32:54 pm
Nice, great effect! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on April 12, 2011, 06:39:39 am
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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: daveyboy on April 12, 2011, 05:53:29 pm
just want to be part of this thread(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/davell/stuff008.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on April 12, 2011, 06:46:08 pm
twas a good weekend...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
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Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 19, 2012, 05:00:42 pm
Well, I discovered the other week that the cruise control has stopped working for some reason, I have replaced the "easy to get to" 4mm vacuum hoses in the engine bay with new silicone hoses to no avail (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)  Others I haven't changed because I didn't realise they were a different size (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

[edit] when I pulled the old hoses off to change them they seemed to still be holding vacuum, but seeing as i'd already bought the hoses I changed them anyway, + the Black Silicone looks nicer (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)) [/edit]

Does anyone have any other ideas as to why this might have stopped working?
1 other idea I have is that its the switches contained in the "GM Stalk of Power" because the Cruise has always been slow to activate & takes a few goes to get it to kick in, the good news I already have a replacement part for that because I bought it for my old Z28 and never fitted it (variable wipers & everything) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Bad news is I don't see how it is changed & would imagine (if needed) getting the Steering column apart without breaking it will be a total Bitch of a job (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif) and if that is needed i'll get a new lock barrel as well.

So cruise control, any ideas guys? I NEED to get this fixed.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 20, 2012, 09:16:36 am
Quoting: FUBAR
because the Cruise has always been slow to activate & takes a few goes to get it to kick in


My '92 Eldo was exactly the same (after I fixed it from not working at all).

Did you change the lines under the car (to the tank as well) ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Is there a relay/fuse for it ? (thinking out loud)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 20, 2012, 11:08:57 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Did you change the lines under the car (to the tank as well) ?  


To the little round tank under the D/S 'battery tray'? if so yes.

I haven't actually checked the fuse because I could feel it engaging & then just not holding speed, the other possibility thinking along these lines is that the brake interrupt switch may have gone wrong & is turning the cruise off straight away, i'll check that also.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 09, 2013, 01:00:22 pm
Will a Corvette VATS Ignition Barrel work in the Camaro?  see link:

Barrel
http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corvette-ignition-lock-vats-with-automatic-transmission-with-key-1986-1996.html

Keys etc
http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?q=VATS+Ignition&x=27&y=17&p=2
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on January 09, 2013, 01:56:30 pm
I would've thought so, so long as the key shape is the same and the tag location is the same.

Has you barrel died? I know a cheap way of getting around it but does involve by-passing VATS.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 09, 2013, 02:28:25 pm
Quoting: Andy
I would've thought so


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)

I'd be amazed if they were different.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on January 09, 2013, 05:58:29 pm
Quoting: Andy
Has you barrel died? I know a cheap way of getting around it but does involve by-passing VATS.



I have bypassed the VATS on mine with a simple plug in resistor ( think there's a thread on the forum about it ? )
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on January 09, 2013, 06:02:57 pm
Quoting: F Body
I have bypassed the VATS on mine with a simple plug in resistor


Mine you I went even further and bought a £13 signal generator module which can bypass the VATS signal in the main ECU if it fails ( quite common ).

It's wired into a switch under the dash should the need arise (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on January 09, 2013, 06:02:59 pm
Quoting: F Body
I have bypassed the VATS on mine with a simple plug in resistor ( think there's a thread on the forum about it ? )


Same as on mine, measure the resistor chip, get some equivalent resistors, remove lower dash pad, I think its the two orange wires, splice in the resistors, job done. Did this all outside the MOT station where the barrel decided to die last year! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 09, 2013, 06:18:22 pm
I know i could bypass it but i'd rather not, it is the lock barrel because it does its 3-min cool-down thing when it can't detect the key sometimes.

+ the barrel is worn anyway because you can remove the key with the engine still running.

if that fits, which I agree with Dean, i'd be amazed if Part-sharing kings GM made them different.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on January 09, 2013, 07:37:03 pm
Hey Ryan, I guessed this would suit your car, and the for uses would suggested it will also work with a Corvette...

http://www.autopartstomorrow.com/part_numbers/134218-ign-sw-lock-cyl

Part No.:

GM 26033390 / ACDELCO D1456C -

And a Summit link...

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/smp-us161l/media/images/make/buick/model/reatta
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Rocky on January 09, 2013, 08:07:47 pm
Columns are all the same by GM either tilt or not. Only early GM cars differ slightly. Rockauto will have one for your car think it is £25 for a Delco one.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 24, 2013, 04:33:58 pm
So, a tough decision to be made this week, whether or not to Tax the Camaro, or to SORN it over winter.  If I did it would be the first time it's been SORN'd here and I would be without the car until about March next year (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

£225 on tax now when I've got enough other money related things to worry about ATM, or no car...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on September 24, 2013, 04:40:05 pm
Its a tough one, but in reality how often would you drive her over winter? Thats the question to ask.

Or would going down the slightly more expensive but less outlay in one go route of 6 months tax just to tide over till next year?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Cunning Plan on September 24, 2013, 05:58:29 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
and I would be without the car until


Not really, you can tax the car at anytime. For example, you can SORN it for a month, then re-tax it. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on September 24, 2013, 08:26:06 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan

Not really, you can tax the car at anytime. For example, you can SORN it for a month, then re-tax it.


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 26, 2013, 11:53:58 pm
Well, it's now SORN'ed (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) will be back on the road in March though. And I can take the time to finally fit the Spohn rear suspension bits I bought years ago and do some other jobs on the car while it's 'AFK' so to speak.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on September 27, 2013, 07:20:13 am
Ahh well reminded, must remember to SORN mine on Monday.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 05, 2014, 12:09:40 pm
Electrical Gremlins

(http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/gremlins_poster.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>Ok, so after taxing the IROC a few weeks ago I was driving it last night and the power to the Dash flikered & then died completely.Gauge lights, Radio, Heater controls, centre console shifter lights, the lot. [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

So i'm thinking (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
- Its all ignition controlled power not just headlight controlled power because the radio & heater stopped working as well (which was fun @ midnight with no demister(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)).
- I've checked the fuses & they're all fine
- Its probably a bad earth
- The internal cabin lighting, the gauges themselves, the rear window heater and all exterior electrics still work so its specifically dash related.
- i'm hoping this has nothing to do with my lock barrel change done last year as I really don't want to take the steering column apart again.

does this seem like i'm on the right track?
anyone got any other ideas?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 05, 2014, 12:16:08 pm
Oh and the cruise control still isn't working so a new module is going to get ordered and fitted while I have stuff apart this time as well.

Anyone know where it is as there's 2 types and I need to know the model no.

looks like this:
(http://www.rockauto.com/getimage/getimage.php?imagekey=23524&imageurl=http%3A//my.cardone.com/Imagesftp/34/341044-01.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on January 05, 2014, 12:27:21 pm
could it be something simple like a multi plug...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

can you get onto some connections with a meter and see where the power gets too...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 05, 2014, 12:30:07 pm
I can yes, trouble is when there's tons of wires going into 1 plug I don't know which ones to test without spending days reading the wiring diagrams in the Haynes / Chilton manuals (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 05, 2014, 01:39:54 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Oh and the cruise control still isn't working so a new module is going to get ordered and fitted while I have stuff apart this time as well.
Anyone know where it is as there's 2 types and I need to know the model no.
looks like this:


I cannot find any info online or looking in the car I can't find this module??? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Rockauto says there is one (of 2 variants) so it must be there somewhere as they're normally spot on with these things...

Confused
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on January 05, 2014, 02:00:12 pm
Ouch, sorry to hear your woes.

Slightly confused though as to what you have working, from the above:

Dash back lights, heater back lights, shifter lights, not working.

Heater blower, not working.

Radio, not working.

Headlights working.

Interior light, rear view mirror map lights, working.

If thats right, I'll dig out my haynes manual and start tracing for any connectors to check out. My guess is, it'll be a connector thats corroded or gone bad while its been not used.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 05, 2014, 02:29:07 pm
haven't tested the map lights, but the rest is right yes.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 05, 2014, 02:49:51 pm
I'm obviously no pro when it comes to electrics but it doesn't sound like an earth issue to me.

Most of those bits will have separate earths so I'd be inclined to think it was a multi plug.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

The large one on the D/S bulkhead would be my first guess .... It's split into two halves so should be easy to find in the wiring diagram.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 05, 2014, 04:24:18 pm
It could well be something like that, I meant to say as we'll the 'info' lights like seatbelt, SES, handbrake etc still work so it has to be somewhere with the accessory power feed.

I've only got limited access in my garage because I can't get to the passenger side door and have now run out of daylight until next Saturday (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif) so have a few days to think about this prob and figure out where to start.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on January 05, 2014, 04:35:28 pm
bleh ... modern car electrics ....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on January 05, 2014, 05:16:25 pm
Sorry Ryan, went out to my car to go grab the Haynes and got distracted by the footwell of water I've gained over the last few days. Appears my passenger side window rubbers are no where near water proof!

Will start investigating now...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on January 07, 2014, 01:27:50 pm
Could be the ignition switch, at the base of the steering column.  This is the first part of the circuit where power is fed from the main feed to the different circuits.

You might be able to get access to the live terminal with a multi-gauge without removing the plug, but if not, trace the wire from there along to the next suitable point that you can get access.

Going from an 81 wiring diagram (Yes, it's not the same, but I doubt this area will be any different) there are 2 IGN feeds from the ignition switch.
One is Pink/Blk and goes to engine compartment (as Pink) (distributor feed - OK that bit is different (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)) , but also (as pink) as feed to the Turn Signal/BackUp fuse.  
The second is Orange and goes to fuses for C/H(?), WDO(?) and A/C (which is also the Heater feed).
A third option is the ACC position, Brown wire, feeding Radio and Wipers.

If you have a copy of the 3rd gen wiring, I'd welcome a copy for reference.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on January 07, 2014, 09:12:51 pm
Ryan, pull the fuses for the Instrument Panel and see if you have a voltage either side of the terminal. Then its going to be a case of tracing it back, but I think Jamie could be on to it.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on January 07, 2014, 09:42:30 pm
I doubt the 4th Gen is very different, after all it's basically a reskinned 3rd gen with a new drive train (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Welcome to consult my GM Dealer repair manuals (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 08, 2014, 01:41:04 am
Cheers Guys, very good info.

I'll have a look this Saturday when I have daylight, fingers crossed its not raining (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Ralph on January 08, 2014, 01:11:35 pm
Very tidy looking motor mate! Good to see another local chap that uses Paragon! Those guys are cool and get to work on some cool cars! Hope you get the lecky stuff sorted soon it's never too much fun to play around with!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 11, 2014, 12:55:56 pm
Ok Lunchtime update:

I found the cruise control module (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) its here:
(Click for full size)
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/CCModuleLocation_zps97eee58a.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
Trouble is I can't see a model no on it and i'm not sure I can get it out easily...

EDITED: scratch this, new theory, see below.
I have also (I think) identified where the problem is with the electrics?...
(Click for full size)
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/ChassisElectrical_zpsf048dbc9.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>

the only thing is 5v seems low? i'm going to go & double check this and check the battery for a triple check (although it started the car fine and has been attached to my fancy CTek battery charger for a week so I know its fine)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 11, 2014, 01:48:02 pm
Ok New Theory

The clock on the Radio is on when the headlights are off but goes off when the headlights are turned on.
ALL Exterior lights as well as all interior lights that aren't controlled by the headlight switch work so...

(Click for full size)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/ChassisElectrical2_zps99bd538c.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>This is my new deduction, the problem is with the part of the headlight switch that controls these interior lights, or is a connection problem with this part.  This may also explain the low 4v reading across the INST LPS Fuse.This is Page 6-108 in the Chiltons manual if you have one & cant read the pic.Going to have a poke around now... [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mechanic2.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 11, 2014, 02:12:25 pm
Well that was an easy fix...

I quickly found the problem when trying to get access to the headlight switch and proved that not only was my 2nd deduction above 100% correct but that it also certainly did explain the low voltage reading across the fuse I tested...

But I have to come clean about this because I pissed myself laughing when I realised the issue here, and that this problem was seemingly also related to the age old "Loose nut behind the steering wheel problem"

...The Dimmer was turned down for the headlight controlled internal lights...
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Sometimes I even astound myself with my stupidity, its just a good job I have a sense of humour about these things eh?(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

How can I explain the fact the heater didn't work?
Well its the same problem again i'm afraid, it was dark when I tried to use it, and because I have a silver vinyl overlay over my heater controls they are not lit... I didn't realise the mode selector was in the off position (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

In my defence (its a flimsy one!! LOL) all the lighting concerned in my Car is Blue LEDs which means I haven't intentionally touched the dimmer in 7 years because it does nothing, I genuinely completely forgot there even was one!!

I hereby relinquish my permissions to ever work on cars again (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/coat.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 11, 2014, 02:16:16 pm
On the plus side I found the CC Module, and will now be ordering a new "stalk of Power" from Rock Auto as they actually sell the right one I need. (after market ones don't work, long story, will explain another time)

Now if I can just fit it without cocking something up... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

actually i'd better just test its not just set to off before ordering new bits... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on January 11, 2014, 02:44:07 pm
ah.. user error ...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

1...Have you checked its plugged in (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
2...Have you tried turning it off and on again...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

nice cheap fix ftw..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on January 11, 2014, 02:44:59 pm
Quoting: art b
bleh ... old car owners ....


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on January 11, 2014, 04:22:41 pm
Sounds similar to my last two alarm issues ?

Put the car away on the trickle charger and covered up, about 15 mins later the alarm starts going off (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Keep resetting the alarm until I get pissed off and turn the alarm off.

Drive the car about a week later and notice that the interior lights are on (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

If you rotate the dimmer switch all the way it turns the interior lights on, so when the alarm kept going off I unlocked the doors which also turns the interior lights on, completely unaware that the reason the alarm was going off was due the current drain on the battery (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/homer.gif)

Same problem a couple of months later, confidently check the dimmer switch to find that it isn't the problem (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Lock the car again and check the interior lights are off, moments later the dam alarm goes off again.

A bit more research this time by staying inside the car and locking it, after about six alarm triggers I notice that the far side map reading light, located inside the rear view mirror is on and I must have caught it when removing the Sat Nav  Double (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/homer.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/homer.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on January 12, 2014, 10:08:19 am
LOL least it was a nice easy fix!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: EDGE on January 12, 2014, 08:44:03 pm
(http://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 13, 2014, 09:29:26 am
There is no smiley suitable to convey this . . .

Maybe a combination of . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wall.gif)
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Still, it's sorted.  And as long as it's a lesson learned, it's time well spent. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 19, 2014, 01:26:44 am
Ok,

So I fitted the new "Stalk of Power" today, the good news is that its a vast cosmetic improvement over the original one as i'm sure you'll agree:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/NewCCIndStalkfitted_zpsfb0ec7b2.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/OldCCIndStalkremoved_zpsfcd09dcd.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>This now completes the entire replacement of all switchgear in the steering column, lock barrel, wiper switch, and this all brand new [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
The Bad news? This hasn't fixed the Cruise control (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif) so the most common cause of CC failure, the switches failing, is not what is causing the failure for me (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) further investigation is required.

The system:
- Holds a Vacuum (you can tell when disconnecting a hose)
- Had a new Servo fitted last year
- Has new switches due to the above new stalk
- You can hear the servo activate when the stalk switch is moved to the 'on' position, but the 'set' button does nothing.

Items left to check / replace:
- Wiring, contacts, earths etc.
- Brake release switch (Rockauto currently have no stock but this is the next prime candidate)
- CC Module replacement (needs to be removed to get model no as there's 2 types)

I'm planning some presents for the IROC this year to celebrate its 25th birthday  (hold on let me double check...  1989 +1 year, +20 years, + 4 years...  yep 25 this year!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif))
More about those later, but it involves shiny things.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on January 19, 2014, 01:28:26 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
hold on let me double check... 1989 +1 year, +20 years, + 4 years... yep 25 this year!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 19, 2014, 03:20:49 pm
Fixed the rubbing noise coming from the rear D/S wheel today, little bit of tinkering with the calliper and it's sorted, free repair (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 21, 2014, 10:13:14 pm
I want to test this, just out of curiosity really (This is for the Borg-Warner 9-Bolt POSI in my car)
From http://www.9bolt.com/technical.html

How to check your posi unit in car:
Secure car safely with wheel chocks etc, remove handbrake and place gearbox into NEUTRAL.
 Raise one rear wheel from the ground.
Measure the torque required to rotate the wheel that is off the ground. This is called the breakaway torque, and if less than around 35lb/ft the centre requires attention -- either shimming or cone replacement.
 If the carrier is not currently installed the breakaway torque can be tested by securely placing an axle in a vice, with the splined end pointing straight up. Sit the posi unit onto the axle in the vice and place a second axle into the posi. Measure the torque required to rotate the second axle.

How would you do the bold bit?  I have a Tq wrench but obviously you can't just attach this to the middle of the wheel??...

If this test comes out poor a rear-end rebuild is one of the IROC's potential jobs for this year.

This website also says that the 9-Bolt is pretty bomb proof if well maintained cos it's made from the same stuff as Black-box recorders (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Would fit in well with my very long term plans of a 400hp, stock looking IROC is that's the cards for years to come (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on January 21, 2014, 11:58:41 pm
What do the wheel nuts get torqued up to. So long as it's more than 35ft-lb then just use one of the nus. You'll get a slight varience form the offset of the nut from the centre acting like a lever, that that means if it passes at 35 then it's actually higher (although only very marginally).
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 22, 2014, 12:25:40 am
Quoting: Titsy
What do the wheel nuts get torqued up to


Until they don't move any more (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on January 22, 2014, 07:48:43 am
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on January 22, 2014, 07:50:19 am
Google says 80 ft-lbs
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 22, 2014, 08:02:06 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/NightIROC_zps55322eea.jpg)

Ok, so I mentioned shiny things for 2014, cue the epic post.

The IROC is now 25 years Old as I mentioned before, my ethos with this car has always been, and always will be to make invisible or near-invisible (if they are complimentary to stock looks) tweaks and modernisations to my car as time goes by

The changes I've made over time have been:

- To swap out the standard Orange side markers to Clear lenses to 'clean' the side look of the car (see above)
- Added a Momo Milennium Steering wheel which was actually a wear & Tear necessity but is also IMO a perfect wheel for this car (This was Phil's recommendation and I thank him whole-heartedly for it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif))
- Silver gauge overlays & Blue internal dash lighting, these are probably the most un-subtle change I've made, I like them but don’t love them if that makes sense. (see below)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/NewCCIndStalkfitted_zpsfb0ec7b2.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>- The Rear blackouts I bought but don’t fit anymore.and that's about it for actual changes, the list of standard replacement or stock-equivalent items, like headliners, light lenses, floor mats etc etc is a longer one but not too long.  This all comes together in a car that I am very proud of and am very happy to own & drive, this winter especially has made me realise that, if I can at all help it, this car will not be for sale... ever.This IROC is my '58 Caddy [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

So this leads me on to what could be next for my IROC.
I have some after-market parts I’ve already bought but never fitted, I have a full Spohn rear suspension set in black for the car and a T/A 9-Bolt billet ally cover for the rear that are still sat in my garage.

LEDS
- Lets properly start with the literally shiny potential new things, LED lighting.
For a long time I’ve had thoughts of the rear lights on the IROC would be perfect for a board of LEDs behind the lenses instead of the standard filament bulb, they’re big, flat and just crying out for it, but not knowing how to make such a thing or where to start it has always sat in the back of my mind.

Cue This company that I found this month:
https://digi-tails.com/1982-1992-chevy-camaro-led-tail-light-panels
Now I really like these, I damn near ordered a set as soon as I found the site, but have instead sent them an email about custom-making boards for UK spec Reverse light / Rear fog light conversions and am awaiting a response.  If they can, this is pretty much exactly what I had in mind, + I like the sequential indicators (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif) (Watch the 1st video)
I need to check with the insurance company if these will affect my policy in any way as well.
What do you think?  Too chavy? Too cheesy? Or a nice addition?

SFCs
- Next up is Subframe connectors, The IROC will be getting these this year if Rocky can fit it in, if so this is a definite. (advance notice m8 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif))

Brakes & Wheels.
- Now here is the big, big question and has the potential to cost more than that car itself… 3rd Gen Brakes suck, end of, even with 4-wheels discs they fade fast & are very prone to warping. In addition the rears initially failed on the MOT last year & have given me more hassle this month as well, so this got me thinking about upgrades. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) which would become a necessity in the very long run if I manage to invisibly add power to this car.

Of the “Main 3” companies for American cars, Wilwood, Baer & Brembo, Baer are the only company that do bolt on kits for the IROC covering both fronts and the 9-Bolt ‘aussie disc’d rear on my car, so I’m looking their way.

They do small diameter disc kits (SS4 for rear and SS4+ for front) that will fit the stock 16” wheels no problem, but they still show the same problem the IROC has from stock, that the rear discs are bigger than the fronts!! (12” and 11” respectively) This really irritates me because it looks stupid.
Now this would still be a significant upgrade from stock, the better discs and going from single piston to 4-pot callipers would be a big step, the cost of this is approx. £1700-£1900 I reckon. As far as I know no changes to the rest of the brake system are needed, and they come with braided lines

But what got my inner Magpie really going was the 6-Pot 13” rotors that are the same front & Back (Pro+)  Baer say these will fit some 16” wheels but are designed for “17 rims and at Circa $2200 per set is not something you want to get wrong.  I need to measure the IROC wheels with their template to check.  (oh yeah, Black callipers only BTW)
http://www.baer.com/shop/ymm/1989/chevrolet2013-03-29-01-10-271014496775/camaro2013-03-29-01-10-27517919948/all2013-03-29-01-10-27272760901/front2013-03-29-01-10-27492401506/stock2013-03-29-01-10-27898983732

But this got me thinking further, what about 17” or 18” IROC rims? Then I would be able to comfortably fit their 13” or even 14” brake kits… can you get the wheels?...

In short Yes, but not in the correct design for my car, so actually No. they all use the earlier design.
http://customwheelsmarket.com/iroczwheels.html
These guys sell them as do people on ebay but the backspacing isn’t quite right for the 9-bolt rear because it’s a 'bit special'(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif) so none of these are suitable, + they’re chrome which is far too blingy and would have to be stripped & painted.

This got me onto thinking about having wheels custom made… http://squaredwheels.co.uk/products/custom/ is the expensive option, I’ve again sent them an email to see if it’s possible, just a ‘what-if’ for now, I’d also get the rears made as 9” wide rather than 8” as stock with the backspacing adjusted accordingly so they look the same from the outside (why not eh?) I’m 99% certain there’s room behind the wheel for that extra inch (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif). And these would be painted / clearcoated to exactly mimic the stock wheels if they can make them. very (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

So this could be either a nicely sub-£2k job or a £6k moment of madness…

So Pics for hypothetical purposes only for now:

Stock 16” rims
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/IROCWheels_zps34346746.jpg)
17” rims (I like this car)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/17inIROCreplicarims_zpsd07795c0.jpg)
18” rims
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/18inIROCreplicarims_zpscc9f7c23.jpg)

What do you all think? Are 18” rims too much if the brakes fill them properly? Do you lose too much sidewall from the tyre making it look too modern?  do they 'open up' the wheels too much? The 17”s I would have no reservations about, the differences would be subtle (which is good) but the benefits would be huge with the bigger brakes.  The 18”s I’m not so sure about at the moment
.
The tyre choices are still slightly limited for 17” rims (being 245/45/17 fronts and 275/40/17 rears) but are better for 18”s because more modern cars use them (being 245/40/18 fronts and 275/35/18 rears) the wheel diameter change is only 1mm for either setup.

Discuss... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on January 22, 2014, 08:32:56 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
What do you all think? Are 18” rims too much if the brakes fill them properly? Do you lose too much sidewall from the tyre making it look too modern? do they 'open up' the wheels too much? The 17”s I would have no reservations about, the differences would be subtle (which is good) but the benefits would be huge with the bigger brakes. The 18”s I’m not so sure about at the moment
.
The tyre choices are still slightly limited for 17” rims (being 245/45/17 fronts and 275/40/17 rears) but are better for 18”s because more modern cars use them (being 245/40/18 fronts and 275/35/18 rears) the wheel diameter change is only 1mm for either setup.

Discuss...

Not much in it as far as I can see in pics, the 17" have the slight edge imo, they seem to fit better...though that could be the different angles in the pics.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Amey on January 22, 2014, 10:09:22 pm
I must admit I prefer the 17" ones, they look better on the car.
The 18" are to over-powering in the overall look of the car
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on January 22, 2014, 10:18:16 pm
17" as well from here, they fill the arches more "right" than the 18's IMO
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on January 22, 2014, 10:29:14 pm
Quoting: Amey
I must admit I prefer the 17" ones, they look better on the car.
The 18" are to over-powering in the overall look of the car

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on January 23, 2014, 12:19:15 am
Ryan, is your IROC lowered? Those two examples look like they're dropped by at least 2". Might want to factor that in when considering the look. As far as I can tell, getting way with those type of wheels you need to lose a bit of the ride height to get the tyres further into the arches.

Just my opinion and from spending a lot of time looking at really nice 3rd gens.

I like the 17" ones,  but then that is a drop dead gorgeous car overall. Loving the very subtle hood pins in the bonnet.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on January 23, 2014, 07:47:11 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Cue This company that I found this month:
https://digi-tails.com/1982-1992-chevy-camaro-led-tail-light-panels
Now I really like these, I damn near ordered a set as soon as I found the site, but have instead sent them an email about custom-making boards for UK spec Reverse light / Rear fog light conversions and am awaiting a response. If they can, this is pretty much exactly what I had in mind, + I like the sequential indicators (Watch the 1st video)
I need to check with the insurance company if these will affect my policy in any way as well.
What do you think? Too chavy? Too cheesy? Or a nice addition?


No not in the least Chavy because they are inside the original fittings, not some crappy aftermarket clear lens with chrome inside, the sequential function is pretty cool too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on January 23, 2014, 08:04:40 am
Quoting: FUBAR
but they still show the same problem the IROC has from stock, that the rear discs are bigger than the fronts!! (12” and 11” respectively) This really irritates me because it looks stupid.


Two questions ?

Firstly is it that noticeable, because I've never noticed on the many 3rd Gen I've closely studied (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Secondly why can't you fit 12" discs to the front if they clear the rear wheels (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR
In short Yes, but not in the correct design for my car, so actually No. they all use the earlier design.
]http://customwheelsmarket.com/iroczwheels.html</div>

For me ANY chrome wheel is a no no (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

1/ Very very chavy.

2/ If the chrome isn't absolute top quality they will pit and corrode even if the car isn't driven.

3/ Even quality chrome can corrode inside the wheel and tyre. This is due to the change in temperature as the tyre heats up from cold, which causes condensation inside the wheel. The most common result is the chrome lifting at the tyre bead and the tyre constantly loose pressure. A very common occurrence on the Euro spec 4th Gens. Or even worse the chrome corrodes from inside the bead outwards and peals off around the rim.

Quote from: FUBAR
This got me onto thinking about having wheels custom made… http://squaredwheels.co.uk/products/custom/ is the expensive option,


£750 per wheel (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

IMHO the two piece designs shown in they gallery are a little weird, not liking the gap between the rims (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(http://squaredwheels.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/mac-dock-gallery/9.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on January 23, 2014, 11:26:25 am
Quoting: F Body
Quoting: FUBAR
Cue This company that I found this month:
https://digi-tails.com/1982-1992-chevy-camaro-led-tail-light-panels
Now I really like these, I damn near ordered a set as soon as I found the site, but have instead sent them an email about custom-making boards for UK spec Reverse light / Rear fog light conversions and am awaiting a response. If they can, this is pretty much exactly what I had in mind, + I like the sequential indicators (Watch the 1st video)
I need to check with the insurance company if these will affect my policy in any way as well.
What do you think? Too chavy? Too cheesy? Or a nice addition?


No not in the least Chavy because they are inside the original fittings, not some crappy aftermarket clear lens with chrome inside, the sequential function is pretty cool too



(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)  I've just had a look at the Video's....I would (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on January 23, 2014, 12:22:44 pm
Quite cool, but is it legal? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on January 23, 2014, 12:45:49 pm
Quoting: Titsy
Quite cool, but is it legal?


Spoilsport (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 23, 2014, 12:47:53 pm
Quoting: Titsy
Quite cool, but is it legal?


Taken from a MOCGB post:

Quoting: steve-p
Here's what the MOT test manual says about red indicators:

Testers must check "that every direction indicator emits amber light, except vehicles first used before 1 September 1965 where both front indicators may be white and both rear indicators red"

and "Vehicles first used before 1 September 1965 Direction indicators may be incorporated with stop lamps, or combined with side or rear lamps."

Which seems to suggest that they are legal on a April 1965 built car. Sequential lights aren't mentioned specifically so since they aren't excluded, and red indicators are allowed, I don't see that there should be a problem.


Quoting: GeoffW
Also says there "reason for rejection, flash rate not between 60 and 120 per minute"


They're probably fine, even if they're not, the sequential selector is a flip switch on the board, so you can just chose not to use it if there are any issues.

I'll wait & see what the company says about making the Reverse and Rear fog light panels, if they can't i'll buy a Red 1156 LED Bulb & test that, if that works fine then i'll order a set of these anyway (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 23, 2014, 12:52:51 pm
Quoting: Andy
Ryan, is your IROC lowered? Those two examples look like they're dropped by at least 2". Might want to factor that in when considering the look.


No its not, and i'm not intending to lower it either.

I like the look of 17"s, the 18"s dont look too overboard in the pics but its difficult to tell.
TBH the ONLY way id change the wheels is if I can get exact replicas made and for some reason go temporarily mad enough to spend that kind of money (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif) so this is probably all hypothetical...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on January 23, 2014, 12:55:21 pm
On the subject of sequential flash, our tester said, if it looks stock and came fitted, then theres not a lot he can do to reject it. It would have to be amber though.

The danger is more whether other people would under stand it and accept it as a turn signal.

The above relates to the Mustang having some modern LED rear tail lights than have the option to flash sequentially across the three lamps on the rear, but only in red.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 23, 2014, 01:02:03 pm
Quoting: Andy
On the subject of sequential flash, our tester said, if it looks stock and came fitted, then theres not a lot he can do to reject it. It would have to be amber though.


Fair doos, they are amber (i know it looks white in the 1st vid)
I reckon i'll go with it, if they turn out not to be ok flip the switch and go with standard flash as that will definately be ok.

So so far the LED lights are SFC's are confirmed, just the big question left (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on January 23, 2014, 01:04:39 pm
How much are you SFC coming in at? I saw some rather nice look Alston(sp) ones which are contoured and bolt in. Thought they looked pretty sweet, just have no idea on the cost.

EDIT:
Might have helped if I had actually checked Jegs!

http://www.jegs.com/i/Alston-Race-Cars/064/102411/10002/-1?parentProductId=2388413

Double EDIT:
[img]http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/reece_zps136b15c1.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>

Just under £200.. not bad.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 23, 2014, 06:12:49 pm
LED lights look O.K . . . not too chavvy, although not my cuppa tea.

Rims - Go for max 17" . . . The more rubber you loose on the sidewall the harsher pot holes will be on your rims . . . and, realistically, you're gonna hit some pot holes.

If you wanted serious performance I'd say go bigger . . .

Brakes :  If I'm honest, a lot of people make a big deal about stopping if they're planning on increasing the power in their car a little bit . . . (bare with me) . . . realistically, a complete overhaul and stainless flexi's will cover what you want to do.

If you double your Bhp, it doesn't mean you'll be doubling the speed you're driving does it ? - Realistically, that won't actually change the speed you drive (just how fast you get there) so stopping power doesn't *need* to be increased.

That said big brakes and 4/6-pot set-ups are great, just don't get too hung up on it.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 24, 2014, 12:27:37 am
That is a very good point, and I do appreciate that the 13" rotor kits (the expensive option) would probably be overkill and would make it much easier to just lock up the wheels and not actually slow the car down well at all in those circumstances.

The stock stuff will be improved by stainless flexi's and the standard diameter SS4 and SS4+ Baer kits will be enough of an improvement if I chose to go for them and fit with the original wheels.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) Good food for thought.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 24, 2014, 09:52:14 am
It's been proven that stainless flexi's help as they eliminate bulging under pressure - directing all the forces where they're needed.

Suspension plays a major part of braking, too.  Huge discs and 6-pots are great but if your suspension is "sloppy" you'll be nose-diving under braking and those lovely rear brakes won't be doing much.

Has your IROC got ABS ?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 24, 2014, 12:30:54 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Has your IROC got ABS ?


Nope, which is why I say about locking up the brakes more easily with big discs if i'm not careful.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 24, 2014, 12:46:53 pm
I think - IMHO - you'd be better off getting a decent set of springs and shocks under there (for under $1,000), then over-haul your brakes and add flexi's.

That way you're not spending thousands on just one thing . . . by improving your suspension you'll benefit from the improved handling, road-holding, launching and braking 100% of the time . . . It makes sense to me to put money into the things you'll benefit from most ??

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

And yeah, you're likely to lock the fronts with a set up like that (proving that, yes, you CAN have too much braking !!).
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 24, 2014, 12:55:14 pm
I'm not sure I fancy fitting front springs on a 3rd gen again, after doing yours and seeing what it did to the washers on your spring compressor no wonder nobody else was under the car as well... they didn;t want a spring through the face (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

AFAIK the shocks are still from when the card was stateside, making them now 10 years old at least (Unless Rocky knows if they were changed during Mike's ownership)

coupled with the spohn stuff I have already possibly new springs and a full brake overhaul, you're right there would be a noticable improvement.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 24, 2014, 01:57:38 pm
Yeah, it got a bit scary. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

I think I'd make my own washers next time . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

On the plus-side, the rears are easy-peasy ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on January 24, 2014, 04:10:48 pm
Saw a video of a guy removing them and installing them without spring compressors and just using a jack under the A-arm, that not a viable way of doing it?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 24, 2014, 04:39:19 pm
Quoting: Andy
Saw a video of a guy removing them and installing them without spring compressors and just using a jack under the A-arm, that not a viable way of doing it?


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Yeah.  You've got to find lots of "ballast" (who shall remain nameless) to stop the front of the car lifting up, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

EDIT - did we get pictures of that ??? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

EDIT, EDIT - People have also use ratchet straps but there's not a lot of room for them under the third-gens . . . . Ironically the Caddy was easier than the Z28 . . .
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on January 24, 2014, 05:19:39 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Yeah. You've got to find lots of "ballast" (who shall remain nameless)


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 24, 2014, 05:41:08 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
EDIT - did we get pictures of that ???  


Yes, it's on your PC somewhere, I've seen it before.

Quoting: Roadkill
On the plus-side, the rears are easy-peasy !


Yeah just let the rear axle hang and you can pull them out by hand (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
I remember you being slightly surprised when I did that once.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 24, 2014, 05:43:06 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
Yes, it's on your PC somewhere, I've seen it before.


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I'll have a look. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR
Yeah just let the rear axle hang and you can pull them out by hand


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on January 27, 2014, 12:51:07 pm
For future reference, I have a decent Snap-On spring compressor that could be loaned out.

I've done the front springs on mine a couple of times without any issues.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on January 27, 2014, 03:21:45 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
EDIT, EDIT - People have also use ratchet straps

\

been there done that with my ovlov ...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

tried it ..because i could ...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 28, 2014, 09:05:24 pm
Brains going off on one again...

Ok, so this car has Torq-Thrust II wheels 17x8" front 0mm Offset (as stock) fitted with 245/45/17 tyres.
and 17x9" rear with 24mm Offset (keeps the look exactly the same as stock with all the 1" of extra wheel on the inside) with 275/40/17 tyres.

It also has a 2.25" front and 2" rear drop (if I was to do this the most I would do is 1" all round.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/17inTorq-ThrustIIwheelswithrighttyres_zps14eb118c.jpg)

I like but I prefer these:
(http://www.hubcap-tire-wheel.com/images/2009/wheels/AR1053.jpg)

Torq-Thrust M wheels in Anthracite/Grey finish... so I made a mockup...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/PossiblenewwheelsTqThrustM2_zpsd45930fd.jpg)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I am fully aware this post shows 2 things I said I would never change on this car, Non-stock wheels and a minor lowering... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 28, 2014, 10:16:41 pm
I had 15" Torq Thrusts on mine, obviously.  They're good wheels, relatively easy to look after.

I didn't think they suited mine (they just came up cheap) so changed them.

I think they'd work on yours but it's a lot of money - especially once you've added tyres, too.

A 1" drop I would definitely recommend.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 28, 2014, 10:25:32 pm
I liked them on your Camaro TBH, the M series as above has a slightly different design for the centre cap, it has a clip-in cap that they say crosses over with their replica IROC wheels I mentioned before... which makes me think, will my IROC centre caps fit these wheels?... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

As for tyres various UK retailers sell the sizes required (Falken Tyres) the set of 4 is approx £650 which is about £150 more than 4x 245/50/16s would cost me
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on January 28, 2014, 11:49:14 pm
I've got to say, with all of these wheels, I think a drop will be needed, otherwise you run the risk of the 4x4 look.

All the cars I've seen with really good looking wheel combos have also had a drop.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 29, 2014, 12:51:37 am
Quoting: Andy
I've got to say, with all of these wheels, I think a drop will be needed, otherwise you run the risk of the 4x4 look.

All the cars I've seen with really good looking wheel combos have also had a drop.


Yeah this is what i'm thinking,

the issue I have is that the actual drop seems to vary a lot from car to car, even on Summit the Eibach Sportline kit lists its drops as 1.6in front and 1.3in rear but the narrative states anywhere between 1.75in to 2.25in drop??.

Dean what did your Z28 end up at after you added the sportline kit? (even with its diet)
The other thing to bear in mind is that I think the IROCs were 1" lower than the 'lower' models from stock anyway.

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/eib-4-0138/applications/year/1989/make/chevrolet/model/camaro?prefilter=1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/eib-4-0138/applications/year/1989/make/chevrolet/model/camaro?prefilter=1

In all honesty after 25 years on stock springs my IROC is possibly 1/2 lower than it started off with.
Edit: Measuring from the floor to highest point of the fender lip the IROC is currently 27" front and 27.5" rear

I'd either buy the Eibach Pro 1" kit or the Hotchkis 1" equivalent to be on the safe side...

This is how my car sits now:
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/2011-3_zps3ef15082.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on January 29, 2014, 07:05:26 am
Mine are stock springs and I have no idea how long they've been on there for, but this is what my arch gap looks like.

If I was to do the wheels, which I'm a bit hesitant, I would look at the same, just a 1" drop. Ground clearance is one thing that would just piss me off every time I took the thing out.

(http://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/7558_10152157079918308_89022238_n.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on January 29, 2014, 12:35:32 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
The other thing to bear in mind is that I think the IROCs were 1" lower than the 'lower' models from stock anyway.


I think you're right . . . when I looked into it the Eibach Pro was labeled as effectively putting IROC springs on (basically a 1" drop).

I still think mine is HIGH at the back with the Eibach Sportline's on BUT, as you say, I've lost a bit of weight back there.

My front end is nicely low . . . the headers are what make it an issue - nothing else . . . my shorter airdam probably helps, too.

I'd suggest you'd be fine with the Sportline's on yours, but don't change your strut towers (like I did).

EDIT - This is the only side-view of mine but it hadn't properly settled as it'd only just been put back on the ground . . . also, at the time, the passenger side was still on axle stands.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2223_zps29c17215.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 29, 2014, 06:48:31 pm
Ok, some hurdles are just put here to test us...

I have highlighted in the Pic below the requirements that I would need to fit these TT 'M' series wheels to my car in blue, sizes, offset, bolt pattern etc...  why on earth would American Racing make the 17x9" wheel in the correct size and offset that I need but then only drill them for the 5x4.5" Ford/Chrysler stud pattern and not the 5x 4.75" GM stud pattern...  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/WTFAMRac2_zps08eaba60.jpg)

I have emailed them to find out...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 02, 2014, 01:09:27 pm
Well that was no use, AR forwarded my email on to what I presume is one of their European distributors without even reading it or making a comment, and then they (in broken English) promptly told me that they only make the wheels as per the chart above which is what I'd told them in my original email (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Not good enough, will pick this up another time.

Anyway on a brighter note I've just ordered a set of Braided Flexi-lines for my existing brakes to give them a pep-up and also a replacement LED 3rd brake light setup to replace my in-spoiler brake light housing that has at least 2 totally nackered bulb sockets in it.

(from Hawks who I don't like very much is the only downside... hopefully they won't screw me with door-to-port shipping like they did last time I used them which cost me a fortune (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif))
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on February 02, 2014, 07:15:39 pm
I was about to order something from them, but I'm severly put off by their lack of clarity on how much stuff costs to ship before the order gets confirmed. Not a nice way to shop.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on February 02, 2014, 07:27:29 pm
I avoid them like the plague !
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on February 02, 2014, 07:33:44 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
hopefully they won't screw me with door-to-port shipping like they did last time I used them which cost me a fortune )


They screwed me on the VAT and delivery charges (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 03, 2014, 07:22:44 pm
Quoting: Eu Distributor for AR Wheels

Dear Ryan,

Yes, we can make the wheels in 17x9 +24 5x120,65, but then you have to buy 40x of these wheels. So that is no option. The AR105 comes not in blank


So... I need 19 friends all with Rear-disc'd Borg-warner axle 3rd gens who all happen to have the exact same taste in wheels as me... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Not gonna happen.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on February 03, 2014, 08:00:11 pm
Hahaha! Thats an opportunist sales pitch they're trying there. Say you have buyers, but you need 4 samples for... display! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on February 03, 2014, 10:16:22 pm
Hmmm, are you planning on a rear end rebuild or swap at any point? You could either switch to a ford rear end, or have the studs removed from the hubs and new positions machined between the old ones but with the ford PCD... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 03, 2014, 10:22:06 pm
Quoting: Titsy
Hmmm, are you planning on a rear end rebuild or swap at any point?


I'd rather not if I can help it, that issue won't be for probably many years time when the car gets some more horses.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on February 03, 2014, 10:47:39 pm
Quoting: Titsy
Hmmm, are you planning on a rear end rebuild or swap at any point? You could either switch to a ford rear end, or have the studs removed from the hubs and new positions machined between the old ones but with the ford PCD...


A Ford 9" swap on these is a real real pain in the ass as far as I could work out. Hauser said they could do it, but you'd be looking in the thousands figures. The difference being the 9" housing has no location for the torque arm to bolt up to, so a suitable fixing would have to be made for it.

That said, if you're doing it Ryan... I'll have your rear end off you! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on February 04, 2014, 07:36:18 am
what about:
Quoting: Titsy
have the studs removed from the hubs and new positions machined between the old ones but with the ford PCD...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on February 04, 2014, 10:31:54 am
Quoting: Andy
Hahaha! Thats an opportunist sales pitch they're trying there. Say you have buyers, but you need 4 samples for... display!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 04, 2014, 12:48:56 pm
Quoting: Andy
That said, if you're doing it Ryan... I'll have your rear end off you!


As I said, i'd rather not if at all possible, but purely hypothetically speaking if I was to do that, it'd be for something like this:

http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-GM-F-Body/Drivetrain/Moser-12-Bolt-Rear/Moser-Engineering-12-Bolt-Rear-Complete.html

Quoting: Titsy
have the studs removed from the hubs and new positions machined between the old ones but with the ford PCD...


Hmm that is a possibility, and you'd never notice the difference front-to-back would you... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on February 04, 2014, 02:52:04 pm
Quoting: Andy
Thats an opportunist sales pitch they're trying there


Actually, many companies work like that in the states . . . The guys on the Modified Cadillac forum struck a deal with one of the door-rubber manufacturers previously and PML (diff covers & valve covers etc) will make ANYTHING providing you have 20 (IIRC) wanting the same (to justify tooling costs).

Quoting: Titsy
You could either switch to a ford rear end


You'd need new driveshaft plus custom bracketery for that.

Quoting: Titsy
or have the studs removed from the hubs and new positions machined between the old ones but with the ford PCD...


Not a bad idea, but I'd suggest you speak to a specialist as the axle face would be weakened . . . you may (long shot) be able to get blank shafts for your axle . . ?



Wow !

I'd speak to Moser first as that seems pretty steep  - especially once you've added all the (required) options !

Quoting: FUBAR
you'd never notice the difference front-to-back would you...


No, but, you can also buy spacers that alter your stud patterns . . . I think the thinnest I've seen is 3/4" so you'd need more back-space on the rims to compensate . . .
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on February 04, 2014, 04:36:46 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
No, but, you can also buy spacers that alter your stud patterns . . . I think the thinnest I've seen is 3/4" so you'd need more back-space on the rims to compensate . . .


That was my first thought, but there is nothing in the list with a bigger offset than the one that's required, so there is no way of spacing it without them hanging out further than they should.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on February 04, 2014, 04:53:20 pm
Quoting: Titsy
That was my first thought, but there is nothing in the list with a bigger offset than the one that's required, so there is no way of spacing it without them hanging out further than they should.


Must admit I didn't check.

From memory my Z28 could've got away with another 1/2" "prouder" wheels compared to stock so it may still be possible . . . It all gets a bit complicated as even after doing hours of calculations when I got my wheels, I still found they were way-off what I was expecting  . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 05, 2014, 12:09:48 am
Quoting: Titsy
That was my first thought, but there is nothing in the list with a bigger offset than the one that's required


Wrong, the only off-the-shelf option that AR make for that wheel type in the GM stud pattern is a 17x9" wheel with a 6.77" backspacing (+45mm offset) which would perfectly fit these "gender-bender" wheel spacers.

But...

The reason why I would never do that is because this would make the rear wheels have a VASTLY shallower look than the fronts.  A deeper inset wheel is something of a characteristic of American cars (at least older ones) especially on the rear wheels, and its something that the Borg-warner optioned IROCs like mine just about got away with the different offsets front & rear.

It's just enough that you don't *really* notice unless you know what you're looking for.  so to have an essentially "flat" rear wheel that would be needed with these spacers and the stock fronts would ruin the look of the car IMO.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on February 05, 2014, 07:42:05 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Wrong, the only off-the-shelf option that AR make for that wheel type in the GM stud pattern is a 17x9" wheel with a 6.77" backspacing (+45mm offset) which would perfectly fit these "gender-bender" wheel spacers.


What I meant was that you are after a 74mm offset and that there is nothing in the list (independent of stud pattern as this can be taken car of by the spacer) that has a biger offset than this to allow room for the spacer. I would say that I don't believe a spacer setup be as strong as even a modified hub that had an extra set of holes machined in, but obviously it would require an axle rebuild so is more involved.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 10, 2014, 11:08:21 pm
Hmm that Digi-tails website seems to have disappeared?? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)  anyone else able to see it? (+ they never responded to my email)

https://digi-tails.com/1982-1992-chevy-camaro-led-tail-light-panels

If they've gone bust that's a real shame (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on February 10, 2014, 11:28:02 pm
I can see it, can you see the main company behind it, Spaghetti Engineering?

http://www.spaghettiengineering.com/comersus/store/home.asp
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 10, 2014, 11:30:40 pm
I can but as soon as I try to go to the actual digi-tails website it wont display
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on February 11, 2014, 08:09:22 am
Quoting: FUBAR
I can but as soon as I try to go to the actual digi-tails website it wont display



Works for me even on this extremely crap Windows 8 Laptop (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

https://digi-tails.com/1982-1992-chevy-camaro-led-tail-light-panels

 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/firefoxpowah.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 16, 2014, 04:15:14 pm
OK,

LEDs

I've been fitting a few of these SMD based LED upgrades over the last week.

I've changed the Reversing light and Rear fog light to LEDs with great success, the bulbs need some mild work with a Dremel to make them fit in the 3rd Gen's bulb sockets because the circuit boards are slightly wider than a normal bulb but they work great.  Most importantly the rear fog light is now RED as opposed to Pink (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/gayfight.gif) like it was before and the reverse light is brighter too.  I'll post a pic of these later

Link:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161013268383?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

I've changed the rear licence plate 194 lights and the 2 footwell lights to SMD 194 bulbs, again happy:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/LEDs-Footwell12SMD194s_zps60e59a20.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>I also have one of these on order for the Boot compartment light:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190417608319?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649Then todays job, convert the Dome light.I bought this from ebay for the HUGE sum of £3.59: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/LEDs-Dome0148SMDupgrade_zps1ecd72bc.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330724708185?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649Now I know you can just buy slot-in 5050 SMD Festoon Bulbs but I saw this panel, though it was cool so decided to go for the more involved option.Step 1 - Disconnect the Battery (i.e.pull the accessory fuse) Step 2 - Remove the Dome light housing and fit the panel, this is pretty easy and the SMD panel fits in there perfectly with its pre-fitted sticky foam backing and the wires even go nicely through an existing hole in the housing. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/LEDs-Dome02FixpanelinHousing_zps30823fa8.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>Step 3 - You then have to cut the wires and remove the mounts for the standard Festoon bulb, these have to be literally ripped out but be careful not to damage the plastic mounting too much as this needs to be left in to remount the dome housing too. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/LEDs-Dome03RemoveFestoonmounts_zps2cc8c4b6.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>Step 4 - Soldering - Now you notice with this kit in the 1st pic you get 3 adapters to fit the panel into various stock bulb fittings, these plug into the panel with a Futaba style 2 pin plug.  You need to cut the festoon adapter off these wires and strip them back for soldering, this is great because:1 - the plug allows quick disconnect in the future if you need to remove the dome for other tasks, i.e. changing the headliner.2 - you don't have the weight of the Domelight hanging there while you're soldering the wires.Once you're done soldering and using some heatshrink to seal the new connections it looks like this: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/LEDs-Dome04Solderwires_zps0753f586.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>   [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/LEDS-Dome05Fitted_zpsf23ab159.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>Neat eh? [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Step 5 - Refit the Dome housing, put the lens back on (which acts as a excellent diffuser) and replace the Accessory fuse.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/LEDs-Dome06Refixhousing_zpsf38ab9de.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>Results:[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/LEDs-Dome07Finished_zpscc533f01.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 16, 2014, 04:16:05 pm
I'm happy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Oh and important info, when soldering the wires, the black wire on the panel adapter goes to the shorter wire at the front of the car, the red wire is fixed to the longer wire that loops round to the rear of the dome light mount.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 09, 2014, 06:28:21 pm
Right,

I started sizing up the Brake flexi's job today, got the back end in the air (In the garage), figured out which flexi hose is for which side etc. which was fine, I was reassured to see I bought the correct kit from the US (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
I then realised I only have 1/2 a bottle of brake fluid and that's quite old, so i'm going to bin that and buy some new stuff from Hellfrauds tomorrow, no biggie, I can change the hoses and bleed the system at the weekend, doesn't look too hard. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mechanic2.gif)

However before I started doing this I was looking at the car parked on my perfectly flat driveway and the back end lists slightly to the drivers side... weird I thought (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) its slight, but its quite noticeable (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Now this listing issue is either going to be caused by shocks or springs right?  which is it more likely to be?  I bounced the rear end of the car and it was still the same.

either way its going to mean new parts, shocks is easy just buy new rear ones, but new springs is going to mean changing all 4 front & Back otherwise its just not going to look right is it? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Is it just better to do both at the same time if I can afford it?
Whats the opinions on sticking a set of 1 inch lowering springs on if they're being changed anyway?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 09, 2014, 06:48:15 pm
for reference:

The "If I had to replace everything and put lowering springs on" basket from Spohn.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Spohnsuspensioncart_zpsd653d888.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 09, 2014, 08:44:36 pm
I'd say it was more likely to be springs.  You'd only need to replace front and back if you are going to lower them.

Is it possible to remove the shocks without touching the springs?  That will tell you which is causing the difference.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 09, 2014, 09:04:15 pm
Quoting: Jamieg285
Is it possible to remove the shocks without touching the springs? That will tell you which is causing the difference.


Yes they're separate, will give that a go.

Boingy Boingy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on April 09, 2014, 10:27:28 pm
Unless you know what you're doing with it, I wouldn't worry about a bump steer kit.

Probably springs, as Jaime says but can be caused by semi seized bushes as well.  I have the same issue with the Caddy and that's had new shocks and springs.

Trying to remember but don't think you'll get the front shock (or strut) out without the spring.

Edit.   *Last comment is for if you were considering lowering it.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 10, 2014, 12:57:05 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Unless you know what you're doing with it, I wouldn't worry about a bump steer kit.

Fair doos.

Quoting: Roadkill
Trying to remember but don't think you'll get the front shock (or strut) out without the spring.


The only way the froint would be re-done is if it would be lowered, the listing issue is definately at the back.

I'll have a check of the bushes while i'm under there fixing the brakes, that job is top priority because is a safety issue, then i'll worry about the other suspension bits and Project Gaming Desk (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on April 10, 2014, 01:25:47 pm
Can someone just run me by this as I'm starting to think about doing it, but...

Lowering a car is just a fact of changing the springs? You don't need different shocks, etc. What are dropped spindles? Do they offer any benifit over lowering springs?

Don't mean to hijack your thread Ryan, just curious and this is on topic-ish
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on April 10, 2014, 02:00:31 pm
Quoting: Andy
Lowering a car is just a fact of changing the springs?


Yes and no.  Yes, mainly.

Quoting: Andy
You don't need different shocks, etc.


No, you don't but to maintain correct operation raised tower hats should be used to raise the top connection point of the strut/shock.  Not as important at the rear (or normally even possible).

Quoting: Andy
What are dropped spindles?


Standard connections to the control / A-arms but with the spindle section fixed higher than stock.

Wheel height is raised, lowering the car, but all suspension parts remain the same.

Quoting: Andy
Do they offer any benifit over lowering springs?


Can only be done on the front (typically) but normally springs are the way to go as lowering springs will normally have improved handling properties whereas drop-spindles will give you a lowered car with normal, crap stock handling.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Cunning Plan on April 10, 2014, 02:38:57 pm
Quoting: Andy
What are dropped spindles?


Quoting: Roadkill
Standard connections to the control / A-arms but with the spindle section fixed higher than stock.

Wheel height is raised, lowering the car, but all suspension parts remain the same.


Most classic VWs have to use dropped spindles because it is a torsion-leaf suspension set-up as opposed to coil-springs.

I fit some to my bus on this page:
http://www.mkb.cc/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=2&topic=7603&page=7

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on April 10, 2014, 03:42:48 pm
I supposed I should've clarified that my statements generally referred to yanks . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 10, 2014, 06:59:50 pm
Every time I have these thoughts of lowering etc with this car I always see something like this..

http://www.midwestautocollection.com/web/used/Chevrolet-Camaro-1987-Addison-Illinois/1346188/
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on April 11, 2014, 07:30:50 am
They do look a lot better an inch or so lower, but also look really good at stock height. Although my rear has really got some arch gap issues.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 11, 2014, 12:59:15 pm
Quoting: Andy
Although my rear has really got some arch gap issues.


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) is that whats called "Builders Bum" or a "Dagenham Smile" (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on April 11, 2014, 01:23:11 pm
Haha, cheeky git!

As was tested on Tuesday night, you can fit a fist in my rear, but only two fingers in my front.

That sounds worse.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 12, 2014, 12:20:46 am
quick change the subject before CP sees this (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 13, 2014, 12:52:23 am
Ok, so today was a productive day, I had a nice lay in until 12 Midday (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lazy.gif)

Then got to work. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (and no, I know its 1:50am when i'm posting this but I haven't just finished (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif))

The Flexi Set I ordered was this: http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/products/Brake-Line-Kit%2C-StopFlex-Braided-Brake-Lines-89%252d92-Camaro-Z28-%7B47%7D-Firebird-Trans-Am-Front-Disc-%26-Rear-Disc%2C-Hi-Performance-Option-%285-pc%29.html

From Hawx... Firstly as predicted from when I ordered from them last time the shipping was exortionate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif) Hawx idiots like me may still order from you with this rip-off overseas service but any sane person would have binned your favourites link after their 1st order. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif) They did however manage to get the parcel to be delivered to my door this time not just to Heathrow Airport which was just beyond a joke.

The Stopflex product itself though is excellent, I would highly recommend their Flexis at this stage of my ownership of this item.  There is only 1 issue which I will get into later.

So, I started with what I thought was going to be the most problematic flexi, the one between the body mounted hard lines and the rear axle.

It took me a laughable 2 hours to replace this line, mainly because it took me an hour to undo the Body mounted hardline from the flexi.  The lessons I learned from this eventually?...
1 - Don't remove the retaining clip before freeing the Hardline.
2 - 25 Years of service makes these bolts unhappy to move...

Still it eventually undid without any damage to the hardline which I was happy with (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)  New one was in place:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/StopflexRC_zps9ff6d0eb.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>I then changed the 2 rear flexis:Rear Left: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/StopflexRL_zps990ba183.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>Rear Right: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/StopflexRR_zps477c6928.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>I have one issue with these (it wouldn't be working on cars otherwise would it??), I caused 1 minor injury to me by cutting my thumb, and more importantly that I rounded off the bleed nipple hex on the RR calliper [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

REQUEST - Help needed
Does anyone have a set of "rescue sockets" to free stuff like this?? you know the type that you hammer on to free fecked up bolts???

Or any tricks for freeing stuff like this??
END of help request

I then moved onto the 2 front lines, these were really easy because the whole line can be changed while sitting next to the car, this was awesome as I was getting neck ache from laying under the car for nearly 4 hours!!

Front Left
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/StopflexFR_zpsfe0a0a23.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>Front Right [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/StopflexFL_zps9e147b84.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>This brings me nicely onto the one issue I have with these lines, as you can see from the pictures above the front flexis pass through a mid-line bracket mounted to the spindle.  The stock lines have a fitted mid-point to accommodate this mounting point: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/P1000443_zps8ede2880.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>The new lines do not. [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
So I invented my own, I used a retaining clip from the stock lines cobbled together with a 20mm Rubber Grommet that would normally go in a electrical socket back box to stop the flexi line rubbing on the bracket. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

It'll need checking to see if it stands the test of time, but the clip is pretty well seated on there so hopefully it'll do the job.

I also took the opportunity to clean all the crap out of the Brake fluid reservoir which has built up over the years which is cool as this was drained dry.
So this leaves me with a brake system full of air with a major bleeding job to do (no not my injured thumb(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)) and a rounded off Nipple (no not tho... oh feck it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)) to fix.

So are bleed nipples for callipers universal? I'll probably buy a full set and change all of them seeing as they're all loose atm and can't cost much right?

As a result I have a favour request, if I can get some new ones for next weekend is anyone able to spare an afternoon over easter to help with the "not a 1 man job" of bleeding the brakes through?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on April 13, 2014, 04:51:59 am
I got told when I went to bleed brakes that if I ever come across a stubborn bleed nipple, just leave it be. As what will happen at worst is it gets rounded or even worse gets sheared off. In which case just bleed the brakes from the hose connection to the calliper. Not sure if this is 100% sound advice as I've not come across a stubborn nipple (shut it CP) but will be soon when I have to bleed and refresh the fluid on mine.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 13, 2014, 12:52:19 pm
The trouble with that is that the bleed nipple is intentionally at the top of the calliper so if you bleed it from the Banjo connection you'll still have a calliper full of air which will obviously affect its performance.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 13, 2014, 06:53:25 pm
Link dump

[img]http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/9/1/2/5/3/webimg/722884751_o.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201003999721?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


and

[img]http://www.irwin.com/uploads/products/large/5-pc-bolt-grip%E2%84%A2-base-set-807.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>

http://www.screwfix.com/p/irwin-bolt-grip-nut-remover-set-5-pieces/96028?kpid=96028&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&gclid=COLRk_aW3r0CFaQfwwod9YQAtg
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on April 13, 2014, 10:08:52 pm
The Irwin sockets are good, worth getting.   I always use single-hex spanners when working on brake lines .....
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 18, 2014, 03:07:18 pm
I popped to Screwfix today & Picked up the socket set above (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)  So tomorrow morning's job is to get the brakes back up & running & see if the rears now work properly.

I also ordered that RetroSound Radio (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Ssshh... don't tell the credit card (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 18, 2014, 04:15:00 pm
I'm watching with interest on the success/failure of the Irwin sockets.  I too have sticky nipples(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 19, 2014, 01:18:39 pm
Quoting: Jamieg285
I'm watching with interest on the success/failure of the Irwin sockets. I too have sticky nipples


Well, it worked a treat, This was the little blighter after it was removed:
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/StickyNippleRR_zps02ee1e67.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>

Proper Fecked, but its bin fodder so no worries.
The sockets hammer on (I used a Nylon Mallet that Dean gave me) then I used a socket ratchet to get the bolt out, came out 1st time with no slipping from the Irwin socket.

£25 well spent,

Rating?
9 out of 10, and the only reason this isn't 10 out of 10 is because the box set has 5 empty spaces for smaller or larger sockets that aren't included.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 19, 2014, 02:11:01 pm
Well something had to go wrong after the above worked so well.
The D/S rear calliper (not the one that had the sticky nipple) has got a leaking Banjo joint, which would be an issue if I hadn't stripped the thread out of the Bleed nipple hole making the whole calliper junk. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)

Not happy.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on April 19, 2014, 03:52:18 pm
Helicoil not an option?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 19, 2014, 04:02:36 pm
I don't have anything like that, + would that work on this were a pressure seal is needed?

A pair of new rear callipers from RockAuto is £145 + import Tax which is not bad. i'll just get those.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 20, 2014, 10:28:30 pm
Are you sure it's the caliper that's stripped and not the nipple? I had the same thing a few years ago.  I'd expect the nipple to be softer than the caliper.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on April 20, 2014, 10:41:39 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
would that work on this were a pressure seal is needed?


This should work just fine as the seal is from the conical end of the nipple seating into a conical seat at the base of the thread. The thread plays no part in the seal, so long as then preparing the calipare for the helicoil you dont damage the seat it'll work just fine.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on April 21, 2014, 05:33:21 am
Add to the above, Helicoil threads, if prepared properly are much stronger than just standard threads cut into cast aluminium.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on April 21, 2014, 10:17:27 am
Its definitely the calliper, I think the new bleeders I bought (M10x1mm x 36mm in length as per the stock ones) may be stainless steel (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) the ebay ad doesn't actually say.

Its in at the moment and has just enough thread left to lightly seal the brake fluid in so its not all draining out while i'm waiting for the new callipers to arrive.

I ordered these (i'm changing both rears) from Rockauto, £190 including higher priority shipping including taxes etc.
about 4 years ago when the rears seized up over winter I replaced them from US Automotive, cost?  £418 for exactly the same thing!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Unbelievable rip-off. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

The good P/S used calliper will be going on flebay.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 07, 2014, 06:53:56 pm
Well I got the New callipers fitted at the weekend and the system fully blead through with brand new fluid & new braided flexi lines.  all good, sort of.

The Handbrake now does absolutely sweet FA and it worked before (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)  they are the same exact callipers and there doesn't appear to be any bits missing from the new ones which were on the originals.

This leaves me the fun job of adjusting the Handbrake. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

So I then redid the same test I did before with the rear wheels jacked up and the car locked in 1st gear... the wheels still rotate slowly with the brakes fully on.

some googling this evening reveales that this is probably normal... typical

Quoting: CHP
Brake Bias
Q: I have been having a problem with my '89 IROC-Z's rear brakes. The car is a four-wheel disc brake system from the factory. The brakes just don't seem to hold well at all in the rear. If I jack the car off the ground and leave it in gear at idle, the wheels still turn. I was restoring the car from the engine back, so I have literally replaced every component on the brake system except the flex connectors to the back brakes at the wheels. I have even tried different brake pads, from regular asbestos to Wagner race brand. I have had the car to a Chevy dealer and a Midas center to fix, with no resolution. When I bleed the brakes, I get plenty of fluid to every wheel. The pedal always has a solid feel to it with no sponge in it. It never bottoms out on the floor, and when I take the caliper off, the pedal pushes the pad out about 3/8 inch with one push of the pedal. I also had this problem on an '88 Z28. I am at wit's end! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Mike Huelsman
Mentor, OH

A: First of all, I think that you're running into a couple of things. Disc brakes are not a self-energizing braking system; they only have the force that the caliper can apply at any given time. Drum brakes have the rotation of the brake drum to force the brake shoe into the drum. The hydraulic force from the wheel cylinder pushes the primary (front) shoe into the drum, and the shoe is rotated, putting pressure into the secondary shoe and into the reaction pin on the backing plate. This is why you have so much holding force with drum brakes. That is why most "foot brake" drag racers will use drum rear brakes, so they can hold the car on the starting line at a higher rpm against the converter. With disc brakes, the rotors and pads must be up to operating temperature before you will have any braking force at a dead stop. Yes, you could increase the line pressure (install an adjustable proportioning valve) to the rear brakes to aid your dead stop issue. The only problem I see with this is when you get the brakes up to operating temperature, you will have way too much rear brake bias and the rear brakes could lock during spirited driving. When going into a turn, that's the last thing you want to happen.
 
If you would like to do a quick test to confirm this, drive the car and get the brakes up to temperature. Bring it home and immediately jack up the rear of the car and redo your braking test. The rear brakes will hold once they have some heat in them. Also performance (i.e., racing) pads will only aggravate the problem. Most performance-compounded pads need more temperature to create the proper coefficient of friction to perform properly.

Read more: http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif[/img] (http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/hotnews/0811chp_mazda_laguna_seca_raceway_chevy_tech_help/camaro_iroc_z_rear_brakes.html#ixzz313bJFMvW


so I needn't have bothered, should have googled the problem first and saved myself £400.  But I wouldn't have had fun [img)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on May 07, 2014, 09:08:50 pm
Ah interesting, very odd as would have thought the handbrake should hold the wheels at a stop....i know you got "P" in auto's but if it was manual then what would hold it if the handbrake doesn't....

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on May 10, 2014, 08:05:24 pm
Quoting: ianjpage
very odd as would have thought the handbrake should hold the wheels at a stop....i know you got "P" in auto's but if it was manual then what would hold it if the handbrake doesn't....


Flashback to PhilO's Alfa rolling down the driveway outside Ryan's Mum's house . . . . . !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on May 11, 2014, 08:58:01 pm
Quoting: Roadkill

Flashback to PhilO's Alfa rolling down the driveway outside Ryan's Mum's house . . . . . !!!


yikes, not good!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 14, 2014, 05:46:39 pm
Car Presents arrived today (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/RetrosoundStereo01_zpsfa1eb085.jpg)

Mod cons like Bluetooth, USB etc etc in a retro package (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
No DAB though so I only get 5 years use from the FM before its switched off.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on May 14, 2014, 05:51:28 pm
Don't bank on FM being switched off in 5 years...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on May 21, 2014, 05:54:49 pm
More Car Presents arrived today (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/RetrosoundStereoNewSpeakers_zps4372df66.jpg)

The old JBL speakers had to go because they're 2ohm, the new stereo only works with 4 ohm so I got these to go into the stock speaker positions.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 08, 2014, 06:28:04 pm
Well this is all fitted now.

The job of fitting the stereo expanded a bit while I had the interior in Pieces, I also removed all the wiring for the Old Phoenix Gold Amp that was in the car when I bought it, I also removed all the wiring for the old 90's Brick Carphone that this car had installed when it was new.  This was all removed without chopping into it, and resulted in the following pile of wires on my garage floor:

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/RetrosoundStereo04-Removedwiring_zpse35b4470.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/RetrosoundStereo06-OldAmpwiring_zps60472118.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/RetrosoundStereo05Wires_zps40921695.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>

And here's a few comparison pics between the old stock stereo (which i'm keeping) and the new Retrosound unit... just a slight size difference behind the scenes!!

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/RetrosoundStereo02_zps99464ff9.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/RetrosoundStereo03_zps4f376f0b.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>


There's a few things with the IROC that makes installing a new stereo very easy, firstly its so convenient having all of the screw heads visible on the 80's plastic, makes life so simple.
Having stock locations for 6x4 and 6x9 speakers is also very cool!

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/RetrosoundStereo07-6x9s_zpsc735fe6c.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>

Also there's SO much room inside the centre console because of the huge 1.5 DIN brick of a stereo that was originally fitted!!

And lastly, particularly with my car, I said to Jamie recently when he popped over, I'm so lucky that after 25 years I can take this car apart anywhere, in this case removing the plastic sill covers and underneath it looks like this:

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/NiceSills01_zpsdc840b98.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150> [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/NiceSills02_zpsb72c664e.jpg\" border=\"0\"  alt=\"\" width=150>
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 08, 2014, 06:34:15 pm
So here's some side-by-side comparisons, you'll also notice that I have removed the Cig lighter (just the actual lighter, the socket is still there) and replaced it with a USB power socket.  Because this is a permanent live this also involved wiring in a hidden switch to turn it on & off as needed (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/RetrosoundStereoBef-Aft01_zps6462d03f.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/RetrosoundStereoBef-Aft02_zpsfedd5a77.jpg)


I'm HUGELY impressed with this stereo, IMO this fits on with the car perfectly, as soon as I saw this on eBay I thought "that's something that might actually make me remove the stock 80's stereo..."  after some thinking and research it was ordered.  It does everything modern stereos do, it 'Bluetooths' to my phone, you can set it to UK radio frequency bands, you can fully control calls and your iPod from the big 80's dials on the radio and it blends in perfectly.  for ANYONE else with a 3rd gen, buy this stereo, I cannot recommend it high enough! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Oh and the USB power socket was from Maplins and fits perfectly into the little recess in the dash for the Cig lighter, its like it was made for it! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 08, 2014, 06:43:46 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
for ANYONE else with a 3rd gen, buy this stereo


Think I'll pass.  (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Does look cool, though . . . suits the interior better than the original one does !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/pimp.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 08, 2014, 06:46:18 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Think I'll pass.


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) Good point, well made (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on June 08, 2014, 07:42:02 pm
that really does work well in the dash - doesn't stand out at all -nicely done (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on June 09, 2014, 07:00:18 am
Looks good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill
suits the interior better than the original one does !


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/iagree.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 18, 2014, 11:16:06 am
Another little Car present arrived today, this is just a Prop for car shows really because it cannot be used.

This is an "AEG Telecar E" Old-skool "Portable"(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) Carphone that was Manufactured in 1990 and is very similar to the system that was installed into the IROC when it was new.  No idea where this has been for 24 years (other than in the Czech Republic somewhere) but its in mint condition, doesn't look like anyone has ever pressed the buttons & the battery still has its tear-off strip on the contacts from the factory!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/AEGCarphone_zps32d6494c.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Cunning Plan on June 18, 2014, 02:48:53 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
I'm HUGELY impressed with this stereo


A great couple of upgrades and both look subtle!

Quoting: FUBAR
Because this is a permanent live this also involved wiring in a hidden switch to turn it on & off as needed


Why? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif)

It will not draw power unless you connect something to it?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 18, 2014, 03:01:46 pm
It has a LED on it, I know the drain from this would be almost none but I just wanted the ability to turn it off.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 18, 2014, 08:21:41 pm
I can kinda see where you're going with the car phone ...... But it's pig-ugly.

Hope you don't arrive at the next show in parachute pants and spandex to complete the look .... !
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 18, 2014, 09:30:28 pm
Lol no not going that far!!!
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on June 18, 2014, 10:09:31 pm
nice work there on the sound system ....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

i presume its a great improvement ...?
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 18, 2014, 11:32:24 pm
Seeing as for the 8 years I've had this car the stereo has never worked because the amp that was in it when I got it was blown, yes it's a huge improvement.  I've just never sorted it out before because of the V8 soundtrack. The system in there now is fine for me, I'm not looking at blasting out music to the whole world as I drive along because I still want to hear the car for one reason.

I'm very happy with it, the phone is just a silly prop really.
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: art b on June 19, 2014, 07:29:47 am
i have an old motorola phone similar to that..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

 in the loft , bought it on ebay too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

 sort of looks cool
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Cunning Plan on June 19, 2014, 07:53:00 am
Quoting: FUBAR
It has a LED on it


Ah, in that case, yes, the extra control is needed, good call. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/thumbsup.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 11, 2014, 12:23:19 pm
I'm thinking about having a tint put on the rear window of the IROC..  see attached Poll

http://www.mkb.cc/forum/index.php?action=poll&pollaction=vote&pollID=37

(http://darksidewindowtintinginc.com/images/tint-shades.jpg)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on July 11, 2014, 03:14:30 pm
Quoting: FUBAR
I'm thinking about having a tint put on the rear window of the IROC.. see attached Poll


I'd only do the back if I were doing the sides, too . . . . then I'd go for 50-35%
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Cunning Plan on July 11, 2014, 09:54:54 pm
It's such a long tailgate that I think it makes sense from a privacy and tempature control point...
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 07, 2015, 04:49:42 pm
Took the IROC for some exercise round the 'block' today, its been on it's battery maintainer for 6 weeks and hasn't turned a wheel so thought it was time to rotate the tyres a bit and give the engine a heat cycle, circulate the oil etc

Car is fine, but now I'm coughing like a mad-man because I've been outside... stupid cold (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on February 07, 2015, 10:01:07 pm
cool, bet was nice to get the car out for a blast! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR
I'm coughing like a mad-man because I've been outside... stupid cold


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif) hope you feel better soon m8
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on February 08, 2015, 11:48:35 am
Quoting: FUBAR
Took the IROC for some exercise round the 'block' today, its been on it's battery maintainer for 6 weeks and hasn't turned a wheel so thought it was time to rotate the tyres a bit and give the engine a heat cycle, circulate the oil etc


Looks like it's getting dry enough to do the same with the Zee 28 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/drive1.gif)
Title: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: F Body on February 08, 2015, 01:30:32 pm
Sorry (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/hijack3.gif)
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 14, 2015, 06:38:16 pm
Ok, so I had another look at the handbrake issue today and I'm pretty sure I know why its not working.
The replacement callipers are not the same as the old ones.
They look almost identical on the outside, same part numbers, patent numbers, size shape etc etc, however on the inside there is a difference, I pulled the pistons out of the old and new callipers and they are identical however the shape of the cavity inside is different, with the new calliper having a deeper 1st section on the inside that the old one.

This results in the different behaviour when the handbrake is applied, in the video below you can see the piston on the old calliper (tested 1st) does not go as far back into the body as on the new one.  You'll also notice that on the old calliper the Piston 'rachets' out with every application of the lever and I have to push it back in, on the new calliper it actually does sweet F.A.

http://vidmg.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Handbrake%20Diagnosis_zps9ium9jp8.mp4

I have checked and there are not any bits missing, the piston bore is machined differently from the casting.
These replacement callipers were bought from Rockauto and are the A1-Cardone remanufactured callipers specific for my car. Why would they be fundamentally different? I don't understand.
Now I have a decision here, Rockauto sell the "same" callipers branded as ACDELCO and Raybestos etc, so do I risk buying more Remanufactured stock callipers in the hope that I get ones that are actually correct, which will cost me probably about £400, but might not work and I'm still left with a Carp handbrake.  Or do I pull about £2500 out of savings and go for a full 4-corner Baer setup which is a MUCH bigger job, but would give me a handbrake that works properly and better brakes all round?
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 15, 2015, 12:51:30 pm
Just checked John Wolfe and US Automotive, neither of them stock them or would be willing to order them before I pay for them so they could be checked before buying (which is fair enough).

I'm totally stumped on why these callipers would be different, does anyone have any ideas?
It looks like Rockauto calliper roulette is going to be the only option other than the crazy expensive one unless I can find out what's missing or if they really are not the correct callipers.
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on June 15, 2015, 02:20:33 pm
is there a year specific change for your model, as i'm guessing the calipers cover a wide range of years ???
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 15, 2015, 04:38:04 pm
They do cover a number of years but they are the same throughout.

Rockauto had some Wholesaler closeout callipers with all the gubbins attached with no core-charges (less than 1/2 the cost!) so I've ordered those as a punt, hopefully they'll be ok. I also ordered the brake-release switch for the Cruise control as well, hopefully that'll get that working again.
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 21, 2015, 09:53:23 pm
I think my Tax has run out on the IROC...  :wink:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/New%20Old%20Tax%20Disc_zpsdvpmsmzk.jpg)

I don't think older cars look right without a Tax disc in the windows after the law was changed this year, so I spent some time in Photoshop making this one which I filled out myself in my best "Post-Office Administrator" handwriting...  from what I could find the £100 for 12 months tax is correct for 1989 as well  :up:  (even though the stamp shows it was issued in May... Sssshhh! nobody will notice! :secure:)

Edit: OCD was annoying me so I 'fixed' the stamp as well...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/New%20Old%20Tax%20Disc%20corrected_zpss61ehvme.jpg)
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 23, 2015, 09:00:39 pm
Dean & Ian will know that at the weekend I was uncertain whether or not to fit the new callipers I'd bought from Rockauto as I wasn't convinced they would work properly.  I decided that anything was better than Zero Handbrake functionality, I was not going to lose anything from trying apart from a bit of brake fluid and the skin off a couple of knuckles so after freeing the ceased handbrake lever on 1 new calliper and putting the correct mounting bracket on the other one, I fitted them this evening...

The result, the handbrake now works!! :rock: its not going to win any awards, lets face it its still using the same shitty design, but it works.  Which is not bad, and the regular rear brakes are still working the same from what I can tell.

Edit: Yes you read that right, Both of these remanufactured callipers had issues from the box, on 1 the handbrake lever would not move, it was ceased to its mounting pin but after a bit of oil and a number of meaty whacks with a nylon hammer it freed up and works perfectly.  This also had the retaining clip missing to keep the handbrake lever on the pin, but I salvaged this from my 1 scrap calliper.
The other calliper had the wrong bracket on it meaning that the piston hit the mounting bracket rather than pushing the pad onto the disc, luckily because I had so many old ones in the Garage the scrap calliper donated correct bracket to fit it!!.
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on June 24, 2015, 07:13:03 am
Cool glad to hear you managed to get it sorted :up:
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 24, 2015, 08:31:10 am
It's a bit $hit, though, isn't it - wrong bracket out of the box !?

Still.  Sorted, so :up:
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on June 24, 2015, 10:10:22 am
When I was working on my rear axle, I investigated the possibility of fitting rear discs to mine.

It soon became apparent how many options and confusing parts there were and instead I decided to stick with the drums.

Yours must be a complete mine field considering you have a 9 bolt axle as well!
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on June 24, 2015, 12:19:34 pm
When I was working on my rear axle, I investigated the possibility of fitting rear discs to mine.

It soon became apparent how many options and confusing parts there were and instead I decided to stick with the drums.

Ditto.
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on June 24, 2015, 12:35:51 pm
When I was working on my rear axle, I investigated the possibility of fitting rear discs to mine.
It soon became apparent how many options and confusing parts there were and instead I decided to stick with the drums.
Yours must be a complete mine field considering you have a 9 bolt axle as well!

Thats the thing, as far as I can tell there is only 1 type of stock rear brake calliper for the 3rd Gen, [Geek Mode] the so Called "1LE" performance package made no changes to the rear disc option, they are the same and are included on the Car with Option Code J65 (i only know this by heart because of recent research!) which is for all 3rd gens with rear discs, this also seems to be linked to the Borg-Warner 9-Bolt Posi as well as I don't think you could get this with drums.  when "1LE" was triggered by the buyer's option choices which included the uprated front discs and 9-Bolt rear with 3.43 ratio, all this code actually meant was they also opted for the AC and Stereo Delete options.
[/geek mode]
I've veered off topic a bit here, but this is why I've been so confused about the old callipers appearing to be different, as there's only 1 type... maybe they were just faulty? I don't know. the wrong bracket being attached is presumably because someone put the wrong one on when they sent to core back to be Re-man'd last time.  Not Rockauto's fault, but it should have been checked by the company.
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 04, 2015, 01:41:02 pm
4x New tyres ordered today, Kumho Ecsta SPT KU31 245/50/R16 £310 fitted from Blackcircles :up:

So the 11.5 year old Dayton Daytona ZR tyres that were on the car new when it was imported will be going next Saturday.  the only shame is that the old ones are Z speed rated and the Kumho's are 'only' a W97 not going to be a problem on the IROC really though is it :rofls:

Now should I find somewhere sneaky to do some burnouts this week... :secure:
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 07, 2015, 04:58:37 pm
4x New tyres ordered today, Kumho Ecsta SPT KU31 245/50/R16 £310 fitted from Blackcircles So the 11.5 year old Dayton Daytona ZR tyres that were on the car new when it was imported will be going next Saturday. 

Scratch that...

Now should I find somewhere sneaky to do some burnouts this week...

And that... (not done any anyway) Blackcircles have no stock and no alternatives available so have to issue me a full refund... :down: not good.
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Titsy on July 07, 2015, 11:03:16 pm
I have found recently that 245/50R16's appear to give gone extinct in the UK... This is the size I have and it appears it would be only marginally more expensive to change the rims to give a better choice of tyre! :down:
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on July 08, 2015, 09:22:30 am
Have you guys tried speaking to a U.S tyre specialist like Northants Tyres ?

They import tyres so it makes sense that they may be able to help you out ?
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on July 08, 2015, 11:53:53 am
I have checked them and they do seem BF Goodrich's in the right size, but at a smidge over £700 for a full set of 4 the Kumho's were a much better option being £400 less.

i'll just have to hunt around.
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 25, 2015, 02:36:21 pm
Done a bit on the car today, I changed the electrical and vacuum brake release switches for the Cruise control system, but when testing the system is still non responsive so managed to remove the CC Module from the dash (which is a little tricky but easier than I thought once I'd worked out where the bolts were for the bracket)

Replacement Control module now ordered from Rockauto, should be here very quickly :cool:
Hopefully that works.
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 28, 2015, 12:06:42 am
Well, today (yesterday) was a great day for working on the car with Ian's help!

We got the stock Panhard bars removed and the stock trailing arms and sway bar removed to be replaced with Spohn tubular upgrades.  of course all of the mounting points were painted with POR-15 and all of the hard-to-reach areas once the suspension parts are reinstalled:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Rear%20Suspension%203_zpstpxnmk7a.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Rear%20Suspension%202_zpsfvjtsmbd.jpg)

We also got the rebuild of the diff done, many years overdue (I know!) but this thing is in perfect condition, the Diff oil is at least 11 years old, having never been changed by either myself or Rocky during UK ownership to my knowledge, so its been in there since Wisconsin... despite that fact the oil was very dark, but overall the same consistency as the replacement 80w-90 oil + a full bottle of GM LSD additive as per Martyn's (and GM's) instructions (received a while ago) which it was replaced with which is good, No grittiness or bits in the oil at all.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Rear%20End%20Oil%20Chnage%202_zpsbc2c39jr.jpg)

I decided NOT to fit the T/A Performance Girdle cover because this would require me to remove the bearing caps from a 100% perfect working rear end in order to fit a "shiny thing" cover, I decided not to mess with something that isn't broken and just paint the cover black at some point when the rest of the axle gets painted.

The reason the Caps need removing is because when the Aussies make the bearing caps for these Borg-Warner 9-Bolt rears they just snap the castings off at the mouldings (see pic above) with a hammer or something which means there's not a flat surface for the girdle bolts to mate too.  Nicely done, lazy gits...

The new Spohn and BMR panhard bars and POR-15 painted sway bar with new Poly bushings and end-links were remounted (pics tomorrow)

Tomorrow will entail, fitting the Spohn Trailing arms because POR-15 had to dry today, and if my Rockauto order arrives fitting the new Cruise Control computer.


Other Car-related jobs to follow this week...
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 28, 2015, 01:00:46 am
Oh and we found a cunning use of the Borla Dual exhaust for aiding with the sway bar painting (with a bit of electrical lighting circuit wire!):

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Rear%20suspension%201_zpscmbwlxuv.jpg)
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: ianjpage on September 28, 2015, 10:58:35 am
Was a good days work, nice to see that the car is so pristine underneath still!!
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on September 29, 2015, 07:38:02 pm
Just lined the floor of my shed with tiles like those :up:
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 29, 2015, 08:36:00 pm
Some pics of the rear suspension job finished, the axle will be full painted over winter.
The front sway bar also still needs to be removed and its new Spohn end links and bushes fitted.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Rear%20Suspension%204_zpsjrqy3apo.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Rear%20Suspension%206_zpsijnqtri2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Rear%20Suspension%2010_zps0rkrdifd.jpg)
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on September 29, 2015, 08:42:52 pm
I also did another job that often gets overlooked:

After 26-27 years all of the foam "seals" on the air ducting for the dash has perished and either disintegrated or turns to a solid sticky mass the second you touch it, so I ordered some (Frankly HUGE) sheets of self-adhesive 6mm and 12mm foam off of ebay to redo them:

Before:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Vent%20Foams%201_zpsyfylbhh1.jpg)

After:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Vent%20Foams%202_zpspmad4yur.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Vent%20Foams%203_zpsccayg9oq.jpg)

I also re-did the foams around the speaker grills and the windscreen vents:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Vent%20Foams%205_zps9wrnfox7.jpg)

and a bit to grip the centre vents as well so they don't point skyward all the time anymore:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Vent%20Foams%204_zpsrui7m2kf.jpg)

(If anyone (nearby) wants any 6 or 12mm thick self-adhesive foam for a similar job or any other reason TBH let me know as I have loads left)
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Andy on October 04, 2015, 06:31:54 pm
The reason the Caps need removing is because when the Aussies make the bearing caps for these Borg-Warner 9-Bolt rears they just snap the castings off at the mouldings (see pic above) with a hammer or something which means there's not a flat surface for the girdle bolts to mate too.  Nicely done, lazy gits...

Hmm, I wouldn't have been so worried about the surfaces being perfectly flat. The girdle bolts *should* have a piece on the end that takes up for any out of squareness that the caps have. Add to that, you really only want to be putting about 5-10ft lbs of forces through those bolts anyway.

The big advantage with the girdle covers is the increased amount of oil you can fit in the case, this all helps with the cooling effect.
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on October 06, 2015, 10:22:06 am
Nice work !  Well done !

I did the same thing on my dashboard vents, too . . . albeit mine aren't used anymore . . .
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Cunning Plan on January 25, 2016, 04:51:45 pm
Looks like some good upgrades and maintenance. :thumbsup:

For my interest, how does the Anti-roll bar that runs parallel under the axle work?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Rear%20Suspension%2010_zps0rkrdifd.jpg)

In my mind, the axle is a ridged tube, that is already connected and is a massive ARB by design. Surely the ARB stays at the same angle as the axle and has no effect on the suspension? :confused:
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on January 25, 2016, 07:07:07 pm
see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_liGnV3PTiQ
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Cunning Plan on January 26, 2016, 09:37:28 am
see:

Ah wait, I did not notice that your bar is angled forward to connect to the bottom arms, from the pictures, it looked like it was a straight ARB that connected only to the Axle!  :tongue: My bad! :crazy:
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: FUBAR on February 20, 2016, 05:02:06 pm
Shiny Things alert!!
I've spent a little bit of Cash with UMI Performance recently :cool: having done some research with the various companies that do these bits I decided that this one was the best design.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Strut%20Brace%2002_zpszzjmr99q.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Strut%20Brace%2004_zpslpmozbo1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/ryanbudd/89%20IROC/Strut%20Brace%2005_zpsirpspu5l.jpg)

Now this is done there are 3 more Handling improvement items left that I want to fit to the car:
1 - Subframe Connectors (need to speak to Richard about getting these fitted, its been 10 years nearly!!)
2 - Spohn Crossmember mounted torque arm.
3 - New poly bushes for the rest of the stock suspension pieces.
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Incursus on February 20, 2016, 08:13:48 pm
:cool:
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Jo on February 23, 2016, 03:14:45 pm
Looking good.
Title: Re: Ryan's IROC Thread
Post by: Roadkill on February 23, 2016, 03:27:38 pm
Rizla-clearance !

Let's hope your motor mounts never go soggy.  :P