Quoting: Roadkill
Could easily fit in a car . . . . .
Well we have 7 seats and 6 peeps so it could have its own chair.....
but with the 7th seat in dosn't leave much room for hardware/beer...
Quoting: incursus
but with the 7th seat in dosn't leave much room for hardware/beer...
Yeah I we'd better not go chipping the Paint on my PC... :tart:
Quoting: Roadkill
Has the Galaxy got a Roof Rack
Think so but Ryan don't smell that bad (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Due to Limited Space shall we get booze when we get there
Smart arse (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
sorry 'ass' (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Due to Limited Space shall we get booze when we get there?
Are we really that tight for space ?
Even I'm only taking a 24'er. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
IF THE GALAXY HAS ROOF BARS WE COULD PICK IT UP AND PUT IT ON THE ROOF !!!
I will go have a look later.
Quoting: incursus
will go have a look later.
Doh! forgot (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
Quoting: incursus
Pretty sure its got rails.
Well if you collect it you wont be able to leave it on the roof over night as it might get nicked (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Quoting: incursus
Pretty sure its got rails.
Its got rails but they look a bit wuss.
Quoting: F Body
I'm about half way to Welyen , assuming that it will fit in the GMC ,
I could pick it up and then keep it till the next MKB meet ?
That would be good of you martyn, im not sure if its very clean though. When i am back at work on monday i will post the phone number of the place that has it and you can speak with them, or i can if you like
Price going up rapidly (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
We need to keep the momentum going on this one, Peeps . . .
Yup only got 6 weeks to the first bling
Quoting: Roadkill
Are we gonna use the BBQ trailer to store the above said items in future ???
Or at least some of . . . . ?
Yes mate, thats the idea. The tent and all of the MKB stuff in one place rapid deployment style
Quoting: 55starchief
Yes mate, thats the idea. The tent and all of the MKB stuff in one place rapid deployment style
Cool, just don't store the tent in the Locker in the BBQ Tank Stand, might be a bit warm...
Quoting: 55starchief
rapid deployment style
Sweeeeeet.
Quoting: FUBAR
just don't store the tent in the Locker in the BBQ Tank Stand
The tent would be deployed long before the BBQ is going ! (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
MKB amenities like the Kettle & BBQ to provide a bit of food & hot drinks.
I have the BBQ at my house, dunno where the "white" goods went though.
'white' goods are safely stashed in my spare room.
anyone want anything up the barn, let me know and i'll bring it with me on saturday..
sside from plastic cups / plates / cutlery, we have 1 14" colour TV, a micro system type stereo, a 10m extention lead, and a cordless kettle.
Quoting: art b
if ya neen it towing i have the v70,that will get the cobwebs off of it
Too late mate, philo the mileag Ho is on his way as i type this
Quoting: philoldsmobile
also, i'm sure you guys know, but dont lift the wheels off the floor with the legs, they are steadies, not jacks, wind them down to the ground, then about another turn..
Yup we aint stupid philo
Quoting: FUBAR
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: 55starchief
Yup we aint stupid philo
Speak for yourself.
Yeah... I didn't know that...
Me niether (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Quoting: incursus
Quoting: FUBAR
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: 55starchief
Yup we aint stupid philo
Speak for yourself.
Yeah... I didn't know that...
Me niether
In which case sorry philo, good job you pointed this fact out to the NOOBS
Quoting: Roadkill
Erm, I DID actually know that, hence their name, but at least we got it all out in the open.
You mean i apologised to philo for NO reason (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Well, Chris and Ryan learn't something anyway.
I did? Damn, have to be careful these day....don't want to over stretch myself (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: art b
passwords/pin mumbers ya dont have a chance with
Speak for yourself mate i know the 16 digit numbers to my cards but then again i am a freak (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Quoting: 55starchief
Got another addition for the trailer, got a skybox and dish so we can watch all the car programs at bling this year
And the World Cup! (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rocker.gif)
Quoting: 55starchief
Got another addition for the trailer, got a skybox and dish so we can watch all the car programs at bling this year
Sweeeeet. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
And the World Cup!
G-hey. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Oi!
Nothing wrong with watching the world cup
(http://www.pontiaczone.com/forum/images/smilies/Gay.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Careful... of I'll set the evil monkey on you...
I thought you had to spank the monkey to make it behave (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Where do you find animations like that while still at work??? If I went searching for things like that and the other ones you keep finding I'd get fired!
Ah well thats the problem for working in a large company mate.
Both dean and i have no cybersitter or people watching our web access
Quoting: 55starchief
Both dean and i have no cybersitter or people watching our web access
+ Your own office helps. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
We need to make some plans for Layouts too.
Maybe AutoCAD drgs. Graeme ?
Make the cutting lists easier . . . . . . (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Maybe AutoCAD drgs. Graeme ?
Make the cutting lists easier . . . . . .
Yup can do that
Quoting: Jamieg285
I worried that each of us has their own idea and none of them match each others.
I recommend some pads and paper for the initial sessions, and maybe some offcuts of wood and a jigsaw to do some mock ups??
I have the Same concerns m8. The 1st time this became really aparant was when me & phil dropped the trailer off at the barn, he Jumped up on it & said something like "Soon we'll be standing here Cooking Burgers" to which my reply was "Na m8, you're facing the wrong way..." (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/haha.gif)
We NEED to agree something on Paper, Get the Trailer Measured up etc.
I believe that this may come up in conversation tonight... if it does I'll scan in any piccys for all to see...
Quoting: 55starchief
Nah, its ok i will find a plastic tank mate, easier to plumb in
Ok m8 no worries, I got a 10ltr one for oily things etc will last for donks one of those so wondered if it was suitable.
Quoting: Roadkill
I've got a 25L tank you can have . . . . . ?
Cool will have a look tonight mate
Quoting: art b
looks like ya been busy boys!
indeed we have! :)
as with the tank itself, we just couldn't have imagined how perfect the chassis is for the job!
this is MKB at its best - making things happen and leading from the front..
major assault on this next sat guys?
Quoting: philoldsmobile
i guess we could, i see no reason why not....
deano - whadda you reckon?
50x25x2.5+ RHS = 2.72 kg/m
60x40x2.5+ RHS = 3.71 kg/m.
That's why 60x40 is so much dearer . . . Also 50x25 (2"x1") is more popular, so stock holders will carry larger stocks of them . . .
50x25 would be fine . . . . My only concern is the 2.5mm(+) wall thickness . . . . Typically 3mm(+) or 3.2mm(+) are more suitable for welding and are still both lighter sections compared with 60x40x2.5.
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
major assault on this next sat guys?
Work unfortunately . . . . . . Possibly available from 2pm Saturday and 3pm Sunday . . . . .
Won't know 'til I get on site. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: philoldsmobile
i guess we could, i see no reason why not....
deano - whadda you reckon?
50x25x2.5+ RHS = 2.72 kg/m
60x40x2.5+ RHS = 3.71 kg/m.
That's why 60x40 is so much dearer . . . Also 50x25 (2"x1") is more popular, so stock holders will carry larger stocks of them . . .
50x25 would be fine . . . . My only concern is the 2.5mm(+) wall thickness . . . . Typically 3mm(+) or 3.2mm(+) are more suitable for welding and are still both lighter sections compared with 60x40x2.5.
We need 30m mate, i can get a price localy if you like or you can see what your guy can do.
Have spoken to a mate of mine who's a welder and if we get it cut and tacked on saturday he will weld it sunday for a case of carling
Quoting: Roadkill
Lead time, for me would be the problem . . . .
I could probably get it, but to get it cheap, it would have to be delivered by my supplier (he's in Sussex), not courrier . . . . . To ask him to do this at short notice would be taking the P!ss a tad.
Next weekend could be a possibility . . . . .
Ok mate no worries, will source it localy. Once we have the frame we can get your guy to quote for the diamond plate, was thinking 6mm for the top and 1.2 for the sides etc
Quoting: Roadkill
That isn't £17.71 per length is it
Yup
Quoting: Roadkill
Fek, shows what "having accounts" does, then.
So:
£93.24, then ?
I will go and speak to my mate with the engineering shop and see what price he can get
Quoting: 55starchief
Quoting: Roadkill
That isn't £17.71 per length is it
Yup
And we need what... 4 of those?
Quoting: incursus
I'm car hunting on saturday and Karate grading on sunday.......
No probs mate, dont need to many people at this stage
Quoting: Roadkill
Just a reminder, Guys I'll be unavailable til about 2-3pm both days . . . . IF i'm not needed I like to get on with my decorating from then . . . .
No mate your not gonna be needed for this part, i think 3/4 people on sat is enough other wise we will be tripping over each other and sunday only realy needs my mate to weld it up first thing and some one to tow it back to the barn when finished
Quoting: Roadkill
Don't forget to get plenty a piccy's.
Will do I'm going to bring a Camera this time.
Quoting: art b
have ya thought of using decking on the deck,pretty good to stand on, easy to work wiff,cheapish??
Going with diamond plate mate for a touch of bling
Quoting: Jamieg285
Looks like I can make it Sat after all
Bring the alternator mate and i will swap out the pulley for you
Quoting: 55starchief
Bring the alternator mate and i will swap out the pulley for you
OK, but seemed pretty seized to me.
Quoting: Jamieg285
Quoting: 55starchief
Bring the alternator mate and i will swap out the pulley for you
OK, but seemed pretty seized to me.
Not a problem mate, have pullers and all the sockets i need
Quoting: 55starchief
***UPDATE***
Steel has arrived and is secure in the garage
Sweeeeeeeeet. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: 55starchief
***UPDATE***
Steel has arrived and is secure in the garage
Nice! all set for the onslaught then (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Jamieg285
I know G has Everything , but I'm sure it will be handy to have duplicates of some stuff.
Not only do i have everything i have 2 of some of it plus my fathers tool cabs which inherit my old stuff
As for kick of, lets aim to be there for say 10am
Quoting: Jamieg285
So are we meeting at the Barn or your parents?
Parents place mate, and dont forget the alternator
Quoting: philoldsmobile
did you charge up the imact gun greame?
ooops
Its at my folks place mate, only takes an hour to fast charge it. thought you were coming in the HO anyway
Quoting: 55starchief
Well if art comes in the volvo it will help out
hey i guessed that 2 posts back!!!!(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Quoting: 55starchief
Well if art comes in the volvo it will help out
Quoting: art b
hey i guessed that 2 posts back!!!!
He's not as stupid as he looks, Y'know !!! (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Quoting: Jamieg285
I was thinking the exact same thing last night. Only have the horizontal faces in Ally Cheq, the rest in painted plain.
Gives the option of some fancy signwriting/graphics???
unless its gonna be sprayed i wouldnt even think about it, if you brush pait it it will look crap. I vote diamond plate all over
Quoting: Jamieg285
Gives the option of some fancy signwriting/graphics???
Same wavelength, obviously.
Exactly my thoughts . . . maybe just checker-plate the side panels over the arches ?
Quoting: 55starchief
unless its gonna be sprayed
Hammerite the side panels, then.
All that bling is gonna borderline tacky.
Plus flat steel plate is cheap - ally is expensive. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Jamieg285
Gives the option of some fancy signwriting/graphics???
Thats true, with those hugh flat sides (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Also we decided that following Art's recommendation for access to the Rear (Main) storage Locker we would hinge the entire of the Rear surface of the Trailer so that it folds down.
Also the Tent Poles fit in Cross-ways so the 2 Front lockers will both be self contained.
Quoting: Roadkill
Hammerite the side panels, then.
All that bling is gonna borderline tacky.
Plus flat steel plate is cheap - ally is expensive.
up to you guys but hamerite always runs on large panels, just my 2 cents, you could go with ali diamond and if it looks to much get it sprayed for the next event. The whole thing has to look right otherwise it will make the MKB look like a bunch of rednecks
Quoting: 55starchief
go with ali diamond and if it looks to much get it sprayed for the next event
Spray paint never goes well on ally - never "sticks" very well . . . . I'd already thought of that.
Quoting: 55starchief
The whole thing has to look right otherwise it will make the MKB look like a bunch of rednecks
for people building a bbq that big there can surely be no doubt!!!(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Spray paint never goes well on ally - never "sticks" very well . . . . I'd already thought of that.
If its gonna be sprayed it needs doing profesionally guys, this is a flagship item for the MKB. it shows what we are capable of doing and achieving. If we start cutting corners it will look shite
Quoting: 55starchief
If its gonna be sprayed it needs doing profesionally guys, this is a flagship item for the MKB. it shows what we are capable of doing and achieving. If we start cutting corners it will look shite
I agree, this thing is going to get attention, lets make sure its gets attention for the right reasons.
Quoting: Roadkill
The budget is my only concern, there . . . .
Ditto (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
I know that may seem a bit contradoctory to the post above but I think it works... (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
The budget is my only concern, there . . . .
has anyone actually priced diamond plate ?
Quoting: 55starchief
3mm steel diamond plate 2m x 1m £28+VAT
2mm Ali Diamond plate 2m x 1m £78+VAT
woah!
So I assume the 6mm for the flooring etc is going to cost more... (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Anyone wlse thinking that Building the Floors of the storage lockers out of wood might be a Better (Cheaper) idea...
we could use the 3mm steel plate mate, or some mild steel sheet
Quoting: 55starchief
Just spoke to richard at the bodyshop, if we went with a solid colour to paint the trailer we would be looking £100-150 cash if we went with a metalic a little more
So basically that works out about £200 cheaper than even just the 2mm Aly Checker Plate...
Quoting: FUBAR
So basically that works out about £200 cheaper than even just the 2mm Aly Checker Plate...
About that mate, no one said it was gonna be cheap to build but it will last for years and we could even rent it out if we needed to make some money back
Quoting: 55starchief
About that mate, no one said it was gonna be cheap to build but it will last for years and we could even rent it out if we needed to make some money back
Oh yeah I appreciate that, i've no objections to whats involved in putting this thing together, I'm just thinking that a wooden floor in the storage areas, something like that Block board stuff? properly sealed up underneath would be just as effective as a steel floor. The old Caravan floor lasted ok.
Quoting: Roadkill
If we can sort it straight away <wink> <wink> no one needs to know how much was collected.
<wink> <wink>
That would also work... (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/assassin.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/security.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Are the first two (75 1/4" x 26 1/2" & 75 1/4" x 34") the 6mm thick ones or are they all 6mm thick ???
was gonna go all 6mm mate as these are the tops to the end storage bins and i think it might look odd if the size droiped down.
Quoting: FUBAR
Don't we need another piece for the Triangle in the front ? or are we putting something else there?
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Oh, I think Graeme said something about Mesh ???
Quoting: Roadkill
Oh, I think Graeme said something about Mesh ???
Mesh cut into a triangle will have sharp points though won't it...
Just a injury concern is all, especially with Kids about.
Quoting: Jamieg285
Mesh?
That's one of the few bits I would say have to be checker plate.
its not mesh as in chicken wire, its the industrial stuff dean uses for mez floors. the triangle doesnt realy need to be plated in. The mesh i sugested was for in front of the BBQ a lot better as anything droped will fall through rather than sit on decking
Quoting: 55starchief
industrial stuff dean uses for mez floors.
Is that the same stuff as over the 'pit' in the barn?
Quoting: Jamieg285
Is that the same stuff as over the 'pit' in the barn?
yes mate
Quoting: Roadkill
Did you say you had some, Graeme ?
As (typically) my source for that has "expired"
Only whats in the pit at the barn mate
Quoting: 55starchief
Only whats in the pit at the barn mate
So checker it is then ?
I had 100's stock-piled but the customer decided he needed them scrapped.
Which we had to be happy with as technically they were theirs . . (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
So checker it is then ?
I had 100's stock-piled but the customer decided he needed them scrapped.
Which we had to be happy with as technically they were theirs . .
so we have no grill then, seeing as some one desided to scrap the off cuts at the barn
Quoting: 55starchief
so we have no grill then, seeing as some one desided to scrap the off cuts at the barn
I Thought you said you had something else for that ?
Quoting: Roadkill
I Thought you said you had something else for that ?
no i have a chunk of 3/4 plate for a hot plate thats all
Quoting: F Body
It did occur to me that although I've been completely useless at helping with the build , I should be helping to fund it !
Let me know what I owe ?
All donations gladly recieved mate (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
I've put a call out to my contact at Brundles . . . I'll let you know if they can help . . .
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rocker.gif) way to go mate
Quoting: philoldsmobile
cast iron will need some sort of coating or plating on it first, as it contains graphite, and is quite poisonous..
stainless steel is the best option..
Philo all gas bbq plates are cast iron same as some cookware mate
Quoting: philoldsmobile
depends on how its cast though mate, it needs to be ahneeled
Ah ok makes sence (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: art b
and that bit of battle ship armour ,will be a bastid to cut!
I thought we would have ryan file that to fit (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Quoting: art b
and that bit of battle ship armour ,will be a bastid to cut!
boiler plate should be fine, as it is a kinned iron..
getting through the outer skin will be a bastard, if you stop mid cut it glazes, and is hard as glass..
would flame cut fairly easy though..
Quoting: 55starchief
I thought we would have ryan file that to fit
well it would keep him warm,and busy(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
i have some offcuts of mild steel sheet sitting at work that were going to go into the scrap bin, including a length about 6 feet long with a 90* fold in it.
will work fine for the wheel arches..
Cool snag that then mate, scraps like that are always handy for brackets etc, do you guys want me to order up the plate for the sides and rear or leave this till next week?
Quoting: 55starchief
think this requires a pole
Don't forget to add a new thread in the 'polls' sub-forum.
Quoting: Jamieg285
Quoting: 55starchief
think this requires a pole
Don't forget to add a new thread in the 'polls' sub-forum.
oh yeah, forgot about that
Quoting: art b
ya could get a piece of 6mm ally plate for the back,would look good from behind,and strong too
Thats true...
Just have the Sides & the walls of the Step-in part at the front in Plain Steel & 6mm Ally the Back.
What do others think? I Like the idea.
Quoting: FUBAR
Thats true...
Just have the Sides & the walls of the Step-in part at the front in Plain Steel & 6mm Ally the Back.
What do others think? I Like the idea.
So long as it cooks a decent burger and doesn't fall apart on the motorway its all fine by me (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Quoting: incursus
So long as it cooks a decent burger and doesn't fall apart on the motorway its all fine by me
I have this mental vision of you dressed up in a white apron & hat trying to cook a burger as PhilO id blasting up the M1 (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/bbq.gif)
Quoting: F Body
I have this mental vision of you dressed up in a white apron & hat trying to cook a burger as PhilO id blasting up the M1
dunno about the M1, but in the light parade, that is quite liekly to happen!
Quoting: F Body
I have this mental vision of you dressed up in a white apron & hat trying to cook a burger as PhilO id blasting up the M1
More than just a white apron & hat I hope (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
IF that's correct - That'll use 3 Sheets in total - with little waste.
(metric) dimensions I've got. (Feel free to check them)
Sheet 1
1911 x 673
Sheet 2
1911 x 864
Sheet 3
870 x 533 +
870 x 514 +
838 x 762
Graeme - Have you double-checked this ?
We ain't gonna have a second chance, here. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: Roadkill
IF that's correct - That'll use 3 Sheets in total - with little waste.
(metric) dimensions I've got. (Feel free to check them)
Sheet 1
1911 x 673
Sheet 2
1911 x 864
Sheet 3
870 x 533 +
870 x 514 +
838 x 762
Graeme - Have you double-checked this ?
Er i cant find the piece of paper with the imperial sizes on mate
Quoting: 55starchief
Er i cant find the piece of paper with the imperial sizes on mate
They are back in this thread somewhere...
Quoting: 55starchief
Er i cant find the piece of paper with the imperial sizes on mate
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/slap.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Do you want me to bring that Tin of POR15 I have tomorrow?? Its unlikely i'm going to use it & then you lot can embarrass me by getting the Lid off right away!
I would mate, i thought i had some but looks like it set like rock, do you have any of the thiners for it? as you would be better spraying it than brushing it
Quoting: 55starchief
I would mate, i thought i had some but looks like it set like rock, do you have any of the thiners for it? as you would be better spraying it than brushing it
Nope, just a tin (Quart?) of the stuff. It does set like that though, they even tell you to put a layer of clingfilm under the lid seal if you're re-closing the tin otherwise it locks the lid on (Mine was never opened)
Quoting: FUBAR
Quoting: 55starchief
I would mate, i thought i had some but looks like it set like rock, do you have any of the thiners for it? as you would be better spraying it than brushing it
Nope, just a tin (Quart?) of the stuff. It does set like that though, they even tell you to put a layer of clingfilm under the lid seal if you're re-closing the tin otherwise it locks the lid on (Mine was never opened)
will drop by the body shop and see if they have any of the thinners left
Quoting: philoldsmobile
i think its going to be best to keep the flanges flat, and simply ressign the tank to suit - its goint to be much easier to keep them squair doing that, rather than rolling the flange.
What yuou thinking mate, grind the tank flange square? i think thats a posability seeing as the curve isnt to great
Quoting: 55starchief
Ok have been doing a little research and i reckon that my router andsome TCT bits will be able to bevel the edge on the checker plate. I think this would look better than edging strip
If it goes perfect - yes.
But it's unlikely to go perfect, TBH - but it doesn't harm giving it a go . . .
Quoting: Roadkill
What's happening re. the additional steel required for the frame ?
Thought philo was gonna get that this week? as for welding we would need to drag it to my folks place to weld that.
When do we want the steel sheet delivered? or does some one else want to sorce this PHILO?
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: 55starchief
Ok have been doing a little research and i reckon that my router andsome TCT bits will be able to bevel the edge on the checker plate. I think this would look better than edging strip
If it goes perfect - yes.
But it's unlikely to go perfect, TBH - but it doesn't harm giving it a go . . .
Thought i would try on an off cut mate and see what result we get first
Quoting: 55starchief
Thought i would try on an off cut mate and see what result we get first
Yep, Good idea. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: 55starchief
Thought i would try on an off cut mate and see what result we get first
Yep, Good idea.
What is the recomended milling speed mate for aluminium?
My router is variable from 8k-22k
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: 55starchief
8k-22k
Not that fast !
Try the lowest setting and keep fingers crossed.
We milled Ally in the 100's of revs - not 1,000's . . .
Hmmm i guess if i used the 110v output on the benny i could half the speed
Quoting: 55starchief
Well i guess we have nothing to loos if its a scrap piece, will need some coolant to stop the bit over heating
Coolant ? - With an electric router ? (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Coolant ? - With an electric router ?
the motor is at the top of the cutter, so its safe to spray coolant on the cutter tip mate
Quoting: 55starchief
Thought philo was gonna get that this week? as for welding we would need to drag it to my folks place to weld that.
When do we want the steel sheet delivered? or does some one else want to sorce this PHILO?
wil be deliverd tomorrow..
6 meters of 40x40 x 5mm angle steel..
was gonna cost £9.90, but my boss refused to take money for it, so is donating it! (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
gonna be an absolute bugger to haul though, plus i dont think sheets come that big..
sheets are 2mx1m which would be almost the perfect size for the sides and with a plasma we could soon cut sheet to fit the other sections
Quoting: art b
ya just wanna play wiff a plasma cutter[ so do i]
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/devil.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
any idea on a price on those?
Will call the steel stockist tomorrow. What you think 4/5 sheets of 1.2mm?
Quoting: philoldsmobile
thats the kiddy...
£44 is a bit steep for an accessory though, perhaps later in the season..
Thats the cheapest i found. Might find cheaper at a breakers or ebay mate. You need the rears as the fronts are un equal in length
Quoting: FUBAR
Thats a lot cheaper than previously quoted isn't it...?
yeah not sure where philo got his prices from. The checker in 3mm steel was £28+VAT
Quoting: art b
can ya get steel fubar plate?
it lays flat
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
fireboard is not going to take the weight of the tank dude, so wont work as a heat insulator..
What about nylon blocks ?
Quoting: philoldsmobile
any chance of chequer plate for the rar panel deano?
Let me know if you wanna ASAP - size etc . . .
Quoting: Roadkill
What about nylon blocks ?
wouldnt that melt?
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: philoldsmobile
any chance of chequer plate for the rar panel deano?
Let me know if you wanna ASAP - size etc . . .
gonna be same width as the others by 24" mate
Quoting: 55starchief
gonna be same width as the others by 24" mate
Is that the Full Height?
+6mm for the width of the Top Checker plate? or not?
Quoting: FUBAR
Is that the Full Height?
+6mm for the width of the Top Checker plate? or not?
thats the height to the frame
Quoting: 55starchief
Anyone need anything cutting? dean you done with the humber?
Basically, yes . . . I think - Just gotta start making the base for it next . . .
Panel size then 1911 x 610 ?
Quoting: art b
could buy some good jigsaw blades!
That would be a last ditch thing mate
Quoting: Jamieg285
I've got an infra-red temp gun we can use to be really scientific
(no white lab coat though)
Cool (No Pun intended! haha), that'll be helpful
Graeme did mention about test-firing it this weekend??
Quoting: 55starchief
What about the evo saw mate could you get that this weekend?
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
'nuff said, there.
It'll be on site . . . with me. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Might have to cut it by hand!
Im gonna try a couple of other people i know before we go that route guys
Quoting: Roadkill
Angle grinder - that's easy to borrow . . . ?
that could work with some of the thin discs you can get now days
Quoting: philoldsmobile
anle iron arived today, 6 meters off..
i have cut it in half, and one length in half again for transportation
i also have about 2 1/2 meters of folded stainles steel, and a selection of wheel arch sized mild and stainless sheet offcuts.
will bring them sat..
So do i need to order the sheet tomorrow? if so what size and how many?
Quoting: Lusty Lass
Hello all! I know this project has zip to do with me but I was thinking about your - what colour to paint the BBQ - dilema.
You may want to consider a bog standard black cos with the filth from the roads when transporting together with the burnt charcoal from the actuall BBQ you may find that any other colour could be, well, discoloured! Black may hide the dirt?
Just an idea - not want to poke my nose in.......
not poking your nose in at all Debs, all input is welcome!
black actualy shows dirt more than any other colour, i believe we decided on a dark red (maroon) type colour - like ryans car, but not metallic.
the tank itself will depend on what is available in heat resistant, but black seems likely for that...
Quoting: Lusty Lass
Hello all! I know this project has zip to do with me but I was thinking about your - what colour to paint the BBQ - dilema.
You may want to consider a bog standard black cos with the filth from the roads when transporting together with the burnt charcoal from the actuall BBQ you may find that any other colour could be, well, discoloured! Black may hide the dirt?
Just an idea - not want to poke my nose in.......
dont worry about the dirt,
these lot love a bit of polishing!!(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
give em something to do all weekend,after they have polished the wwambulance(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Quoting: 55starchief
i have nothing that i can collect an 8ft sheet in
My company van ? - Dependant on day . . .
Quoting: philoldsmobile
what do you think, 1 or 1.2?
1.2
And Lusty, remember - there's a jet wash in the BP just outside Billing.
If I know PhilO that BBQ will be gleaming before entering the aquadrome !!!
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
We must get Chris' duster shifted this weekend . . . .
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
its definaley 24" high, isn't it? i'm gonna cut the sheet in half lengthways..
Yes mate 24"
Quoting: philoldsmobile
if you can measure the length, i can cut it to size on sat, saving us a load of work...
if ou can give me the dimentions of the other panels, i can cut those too, leaving us to just rivet them on saturday..
You working sat morning?
Quoting: 55starchief
So who will be over on saturday?
Don't know yet ?
Don't surpose you have a postcode for the farm ?
Quoting: philoldsmobile
i wont be aywhere near a PC on sat, and working from a text message leaves a lot of room for error, any chance of posting them up here by friday night?
Im not gonna get a chance to get to the barn mate. Was gonna send a text for each panel. Remember i have a full qwert keyboard no predictive shite text so it will be right
Quoting: F Body
Don't know yet ?
Don't surpose you have a postcode for the farm ?
NN13 6DY
its a straight road mate with houses either side. The farm is at the top on the right hand side. The track to the farm is the same one to the barn
Quoting: philoldsmobile
if you do come down, bring tthe waaaaaaaaambulance, coz it will handle the terrain better than the GMC!
lol yeah good point, although if the old dear sees that going down she might panic mate
Quoting: F Body
Gona have to get me an eco-nom-eyecal motor like your Chavscort Mate.
There's a Skoda Felcia estate for sale up road only £300.
Some times its a good choice to have a chase vehicle mate, the chavscort is worth its weight in gold
Quoting: F Body
Sorry back to reality ,now where's my ambulance
do ya keep ya medication in there martyn? (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: 55starchief
I will nip across to the plumbers merchants saturday morning and pick up the tank and posably the pump (might ebay the pump)
really dont see ya raising the temp in the tent by 2 degrees,
let alone the 5 you thought graeme, (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
how much fuel are ya gonna use with all the losses involved,
a lot of work,when ya could plug in an electic fan in two mins and get great results(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
i await to be proven wrong!
Quoting: philoldsmobile
deano - any change of bringing a few tecs over? it would make sense to tec it in the corners before drilling and pop riveting....
I'll grab a handfull of what I have in the office for Friday . . .
Quoting: art b
really dont see ya raising the temp in the tent by 2 degrees,
let alone the 5 you thought graeme,
how much fuel are ya gonna use with all the losses involved,
a lot of work,when ya could plug in an electic fan in two mins and get great results
i await to be proven wrong!
Have to have faith mate, i know it will work. If i am wrong its my money that i have wasted and i can always sell it on ebay
Quoting: F Body
Gona have to get me an eco-nom-eyecal motor like your Chavscort Mate.
I could cut you a deal on one Mate.
Minor damage to nearside - drives like a dream. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/haha.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Fingers crossed it works in practise.
I can hear the cries of "SHUT THE DOOR!!" already! (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
k.. rivets arrived this morning.... and they are frekin wrong - they are fabric rivets!
stainless buttonhead M8 x 40 ............are out of stock, and wont have any untill mon / tues!
i'm gonna try another scource for rivets right now.....
M8 x 35 or 50 would also be usable mate
Quoting: Roadkill
I Have some rivets on site I can nab . . . let me know - I'm on site tomorrow MORNING !!!
Yoink, thanks very much we need about 500
Quoting: 55starchief
Yoink, thanks very much we need about 500
Text me tomorrow morning around 9.00am to remind me . . .
Quoting: Roadkill
M10 would be ample TBH - M12 would "look" O.K and be belt and braces . . .
Was thinking more about the bolt hole size in the tank mate, would rather fill the hole and it be overkill than loose the tank and kill someone
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: 55starchief
Yoink, thanks very much we need about 500
Text me tomorrow morning around 9.00am to remind me . . .
will do, can you txt me at 8am to remind me to remind you (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Hehe that looks sweet!
are all the tops fixed in too?
Not yet mate, need them left of so we can paint it
Quoting: 55starchief
Not yet mate, need them left of so we can paint it
Aah I see, okey dokey, looks good though (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif) are we cutting in a wheel arch?
Quoting: philoldsmobile
k... so we going for the all out attack this weekend?
Yup, you gonna try and get the rivets?
Quoting: philoldsmobile
uhhhh.... i dont honestly know where to start with them, thought deano was sorting it?
i can help if you want to make a nice leather belt though!!
any idea on cost for painting?
The ones deano grabed are a large head mate, i guess i will try and see if i can get them then.
Paint cost will be around £100, im gonna get my mate over to look at it this week one night to let me know what we need to get done etc
Quoting: Roadkill
Have we added the extra support to the lower sections as we discussed ?
Not yet mate, the sheet is 50mm to short at the moment so we figured we would checker a 100mm strip along the bottom to add rigidity aswell as some protection
Quoting: Roadkill
Are we gonna address this before sheeting? Or was it just the angle I looked at it ?
Might just be the angle mate
Quoting: Roadkill
I'll be working ALL DAY Sunday (will be the last time, though)
I'd promised Samantha that we could see her Dad early this year . . . Basically this weekend will be the last oppotunity 'til well into April so Friday night/Saturday morning will be a no-no for me too . . . . . Then there's Chris' Duster to move this weekend, too . . . .
No worries mate, family comes first. We must get this sheeted this weekend though so we will need people to be there saturday and posibly sunday
Quoting: 55starchief
No worries mate, family comes first. We must get this sheeted this weekend though so we will need people to be there saturday and posibly sunday
I'll be there saturday afternoon, once Duster(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/mad.gif) is shifted, and probably sunday.
Quoting: Roadkill
Have we decided on "Fire engine" Red ?
its chrysler viper red and i think it was a yes mate
Quoting: FUBAR
I thought we were doing it a more my car type red (but not metallic)
would look crap mate, that color doesnt work in a solid but i will bring the color book with me at the weekend if your not sure
Quoting: 55starchief
Er chris,
All the pictures you posted in thos thread are gone mate, you delete them on your hosting page?
Quoting: incursus
hmm i'll have a look.
Sorted.
Quoting: philoldsmobile
you need the empty one to get the new one mate..
Nope not anymore mate, just pick up a bottle nowdays. I think there is a place in the village that does them
Quoting: Roadkill
Do we still need ally plate ?
yes mate, for the rear tailgate and side lockers
Quoting: Roadkill
We'll need to cut it, But I got it.
any chance of getting one of those saw blades to try in a regular circular saw mate?
Quoting: Roadkill
I'll have a lookie . . . . . .
Might find a speed rating on the blade if you look
Quoting: ianjpage
looking good guys - not long to get it finished tho!!!
Goes to paint saturday morning mate
Quoting: ianjpage
kewl, lets see......black perhaps
Nope, chrysler Viper Red
Quoting: incursus
Tank red as well? Can't remember
Tank black unless LRK gets autistic and flames it
Quoting: 55starchief
Tank black unless LRK gets autistic and flames it
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/cool.gif) though
Quoting: Roadkill
Have we finished putting in the extra steels ?
Extra steels?
Quoting: Roadkill
At the bottom . . . . we got extra material for it ???
No ate we decided we would add a 4" checker strip. whats the thinest material you have?
Quoting: 55starchief
thinest material you have?
Same as the Thickest. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
6mm O/Plain (7.5mm O/Pattern).
Quoting: Roadkill
Same as the Thickest.
6mm O/Plain (7.5mm O/Pattern).
ok then i will get a price on a sheet of the thinest available and get it cut into 4" strips, philo can bend them up for corner protection and whats left can be used along the bottom and for other trim areas
Quoting: Roadkill
Why are we not adding the extra steel
Time mate, also no welder avialbale and no steel. The chassis had to be finished at the weekend.
We still need to fold corner protectors as the sheeting isnt good enough to leave raw edged. \we had to fudge one side to get it square
Quoting: philoldsmobile
keep the thickness as thin as poss if its steel, preferably under 2mm
it will be 3mm o/p mate so shouldnt be a problem. Need to call and see the cost of getting it cut first
Quoting: FUBAR
what can we fix the ply with?
Teks ?
Quoting: FUBAR
what can we fix the ply with?
Rivets mate.
As for the floor ply i called gibbs and dandy they have 18mm shuttering ply for £13+VAT 8x4 sheet this should be good enough for the flooring
***EDIT***
Dean do you still have those rivets?
Quoting: FUBAR
I think we'll need more than 1 sheet do do the floors m8, the sizes needed for the 2 back sections I don't think fit into 1 8x4' sheet... + there's the front lockers too
I meant the grade mate not a single sheet
Quoting: 55starchief
Dean do you still have those rivets?
Hmm, last see buried in the van . . . The van is at the Garage - I'll check when It comes back . . . .
Quoting: 55starchief
I meant the grade mate not a single sheet
Aah ok,
Cuh! me noob!
Quoting: 55starchief
Might find a speed rating on the blade if you look
O.K
I've got one 180mm Dia. Ally Disc.
and one 180mm Dia. Steel disc. - Max Rev. 3,500 rpm.
Quoting: Roadkill
I've got one 180mm Dia. Ally Disc.
and one 180mm Dia. Steel disc. - Max Rev. 3,500 rpm.
Ok looks like the saw i have is 5000 rpm, am prety sure if we use the 110v power out with a 240v saw we ill get half that speed.
That 5000rpm is no load speed
Quoting: 55starchief
That 5000rpm is no load speed
So loaded will be a lot less . . . .
Quoting: Roadkill
So loaded will be a lot less . . . .
yeah, i might just go with it mate as its only a couple of cuts. What do you think?
Quoting: philoldsmobile
used a plasma (so went slightly under 3" so we didn't have any gaps) and it took literaly 30 seconds...
mmmmmm plasma me want
Quoting: 55starchief
I think ryan might have been on the sauce tonight when he posted that
Nope no beer for me still, not for another week
Quoting: FUBAR
Quoting: 55starchief
I think ryan might have been on the sauce tonight when he posted that
Nope no beer for me still, not for another week
Didn't you drink at the quiz night? (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
And does that mean no pizza for you tonight either, cos I'm pretty sure which is less healthy (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Jamieg285
Is that the 'Foods Ready' signal?
yup (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif) "Grubs Up"
Day use only! (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Either that or it could be strategically deployed to get me up in the morning (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/sad.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: Jamieg285
That is Awesome guys, just gutted I haven't been around to help more.
Thats ok mate, but if your free on saturday its all hands to the pumps to get this baby done for bling the week after
Quoting: philoldsmobile
needs a compressor though...
not a problem mate, if you look on ebay.com they are on there with a tank for about $50 or you can get a complete set with a pair of 36" horns, tank and comp for about $150
Quoting: 55starchief
you can get a complete set with a
pair of 36" horns, tank and comp for about
$150
We're there, Dude. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rock.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
I'd say we need the 809's, what are they made of out of interest?
extruded aluminium mate
Quoting: incursus
Ok I can get an Alpine LCD monitor 8" wide. Model number TVE-T850.
comes with TV tuner thingy and remote, But......
Only information I can find is in Japanese plus it only displays NTSC.
Basically its for the Japanese market.
What you reckon?
Any use?
Yup totaly usable mate
Quoting: incursus
I shall grab it then. Conditions are we can't do anything that will perminently change it...
If someone asks for it, we might need to give it back.
Been sitting on the shelf for over a year though.....
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rocker.gif)
windows XP powered BBQ (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/mkb.gif)
Quoting: incursus
Ok I can get an Alpine LCD monitor 8" wide. Model number TVE-T850.
comes with TV tuner thingy and remote, But......
Only information I can find is in Japanese plus it only displays NTSC.
Basically its for the Japanese market.
What you reckon?
Any use?
Got it (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/security.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
f**K... i work in edison road!! never seen that place though.
ok, if you could give me all rough lengths, i'll sort it..
I would cut the 50x50 in half as we need 4 pieces at 27"
The top trim i would cut into 8' lengths as this is the longest we would need
The channel section again i would cut in half.
i think that should work out ok, have a think and see if it works out
Quoting: philoldsmobile
do you know if they will cut to length?
why not drop in and see them if they are near your work
Quoting: philoldsmobile
uhh.... grand total with vat is £86.59
Well i think some people need to help out here.
Quoting: 55starchief
Well i think some people need to help out here.
Yep, I'll donate to the MKBBBQ Fund. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
WHAT SIZE BOLTS FOR THE DIESEL GENNY ?
you mean you didnt look (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
bring a selection 10,12,14 in long lengths we can always cut them down
Quoting: FUBAR
Do we have everything we need for Saturday? Is there anything I need to bring except for a Pair of Hands?
i dont think so, i believe its all in hand..
Quoting: 55starchief
Ryan did you say you had some underseal?
I do indeed, will bring that with me, there's about 1/2 a tin of Hammeright stuff + some POR15 we can use, i'll also bring a brush.
Graeme did you manage to get that Speaker stand? If so i'll bring the Pump to test fit it.
Quoting: 55starchief
Who is coming back to mine tonight so that we can get an early start. Ryan i think if you leave now you shoud
Gonna need to take the Fiero to the barn tomorrow so I'll have to go back to Deans tonight, if I want to drink tonight......which I do.
Quoting: 55starchief
Who is coming back to mine tonight
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) Dunno, yet. TBH, I'd forgotten to mention it to Sammy. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
She's working, though so. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Gonna need to take the Fiero to the barn tomorrow so I'll have to go back to Deans tonight
That mean your gonna be there about midday?
If we want to get it finished we really need an early start, remember some of us have to be in MK for 6pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Graeme - Has the Genny got a 110v Output.
Yup, the petrol one has 110V out let, will have to kill all 240 stuff though as it wont output both at the same time
Quoting: Roadkill
The ally plate is here and ready in 1m x 2m sheets . . . . . To big for the chav'scort (already heavily laden with stuff for Sunday).
Ideas ?
Philo? i guess if he came back to your place tonight he could pick up the sheet
Quoting: Roadkill
I have my "Own Stock" of 5 sheets at home . . . . . . . That means me buying another sheet from work to replace it, but if that's the only way . . . .
Surely a small sacrafice for the greater cause mate
Quoting: Roadkill
Hey-Ho, They're there . . . . I'm assuming PhilO's coming tonight ?
I guess so.
You got any M6 nuts or they to small for your stuff?
Quoting: Roadkill
Not at the Unit . . . . . Maybe in my Tool box in the Garage.
Remind me tonight. How many do you need ?
May even have Nyloks
dont worry then mate, it was instead of the rivets for the edging stip on the tank
Quoting: 55starchief
dont worry then mate, it was instead of the rivets for the edging stip on the tank
How many ?
If I have some they'd only have been "Liberated" from other previous places of employment.
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rock.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
How many ?
If I have some they'd only have been "Liberated" from other previous places of employment.
Would need about 100 max
Quoting: Roadkill
O.K, got a 110v lead . . . trans. is out and I won't be able to get it 'til at least sunday.
Also all rivets from the last job were left on site - so that's a no-no, too.
No problem we have 110v on the geny, no worries about rivets i have M6 nuts now.
Philo has to work first thing so if you could come back tonight we would have a jump on getting the boarding done otherwise we will run out of time.
Quoting: 55starchief
That mean your gonna be there about midday?
Your thinking of Ryan (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
I'll be there earlier got lots to do if I'm taking the Duster.....or the Fiero for that matter.
Normally not there till late morning cos I go to the gym but i'll be giving that a miss tomorrow.
Quoting: Jamieg285
that's not the test firing, but the 1st use in anger.
Thursday night if we go or friday night
Quoting: Incursus
Normally not there till late morning cos I go to the gym but i'll be giving that a miss tomorrow.
Im gonna try and be there for 8:30am we might need some more gas for the genny whos turn is it?
Quoting: 55starchief
Quoting: Incursus
Normally not there till late morning cos I go to the gym but i'll be giving that a miss tomorrow.
Im gonna try and be there for 8:30am we might need some more gas for the genny whos turn is it?
I think philo has plans fer me in the mornin...(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
so might be a little later than planned.
But if he's not late I would guess an ETA of 09:30
Ryan and I bought the last lot 'o' gas (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Just found out its gonna cost me £70 to fix the Renault. so at this point I can't even afford to fuel to get to brackley not if I want to go to billing at all this weekend.
(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/offtopic.gif) But related
I found some heavier duty relays for your poppers, so if I get a chance tonight i'll see if they help...
Quoting: Titsy
I found some heavier duty relays for your poppers, so if I get a chance tonight i'll see if they help...
Sweet even if we can only get the drivers door working, at least its a start.
that and a manual override for the boot is pretty much the only thing stopping the duster going to bling in May(?)
Quoting: Incursus
Quoting: Titsy
I found some heavier duty relays for your poppers, so if I get a chance tonight i'll see if they help...
Sweet even if we can only get the drivers door working, at least its a start.
that and a manual override for the boot is pretty much the only thing stopping the duster going to bling in May(?)
Dont forget that the weekned after bling is easter 4 days off (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rocker.gif)
Quoting: 55starchief
Dont forget that the weekned after bling is easter 4 days off
Sweet 4 Day Lye-in!!! (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
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Quoting: FUBAR
Sweet 4 Day Lye-in!!!
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Sad thing is thats probably what your gonna be doing (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Quoting: 55starchief
Sad thing is thats probably what your gonna be doing
I will be on the sunday, after having 200 people in Civic i'm going to be nackered!
Apart from that the car will get some attention in amongst other jobs etc.
Quoting: FUBAR
after having 200 people in Civic
Christ !, I thought you'd struggle to get 6 chavs in a Civic, let alone 200 peeps !
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Well over Easter I certainly Do NOT intend to have any lie-ins . . . . I've got way to much work to catch up on after working almost every weekend this year so far . . .
Quoting: FUBAR
Do we still have 40 of those Flange Nuts avaliable for the Decking Bolts or will I need to get some?
Not a problem as i use those at work mate
Quoting: 55starchief
Not a problem as i use those at work mate
Ok m8 cool, i'll just get some more Bolts & some wood then, just thought i'd check because I need quite a few.
Quoting: philoldsmobile
dean, any luck with the tank securing bolts?
of not i will see if anglian fastners have any M14 x 50 or M16 x 50's
We used M16x55 BZP set screws with Nyloks. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
We used M16x55 BZP set screws with Nyloks
Yup that sucker aint going any where
Quoting: Roadkill
It's gonna depend heavily on the traffic . . . . .
Ok mate,
Quoting: Jamieg285
Are we intersted in finding out what this baby weighs? I can bring my scales to Billing if required.
Might be benficial for legal purposes (don't know if you're supposed to know the weight or not), and we can also see what the balance is like (nose weight), which we may be able to addjust with ballast to make it tow better.
Yup, we had discussed this at the weekend mate
Quoting: 55starchief
Yup, we had discussed this at the weekend mate
Did we - must have missed that.
So you want me to bring them then?
Quoting: Jamieg285
Did we - must have missed that.
So you want me to bring them then?
Yes please mate, the discusion was on saturday at the barn, philo wants a VIN tag for it saying MKB BBQ
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Quoting: Jamieg285
Is the tank going to be painted? Looks a bit ugly up there on top of all the shiny bits.
I don;t know if we'll have time this week m8, might have to be done in time for the RnR weekend...
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: FUBAR
Anyone want a Lift over?
Watch this space . . . . .
aah ok...
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Quoting: FUBAR
Quoting: Jamieg285
Is the tank going to be painted? Looks a bit ugly up there on top of all the shiny bits.
I don;t know if we'll have time this week m8, might have to be done in time for the RnR weekend...
Gotta put something on, even if it'll be done properly later.
Rattle cans at Billing on Thurs (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Graeme,
I have cancelled my Bar shift this evening (Lolli is working for me) so can be round circa 6:30 allowing for Bad Traffic.
Anyone want a Lift over?
Cheers matey, this is a last ditch effort. Looks like deano wont be over as its his moms birthday and has family things to do. He did say if he can get off site early he would try and get across
Quoting: Jamieg285
Quoting: FUBAR
Quoting: Jamieg285
Is the tank going to be painted? Looks a bit ugly up there on top of all the shiny bits.
I don;t know if we'll have time this week m8, might have to be done in time for the RnR weekend...
Gotta put something on, even if it'll be done properly later.
Rattle cans at Billing on Thurs
Gonna get some engine enamal thursday morning and brush it over
Quoting: 55starchief
Gonna get some engine enamal thursday morning and brush it over
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Quoting: Incursus
Depends how late your staying though got work tomorrow...
cant stay any later than 9pm
Quoting: 55starchief
Quoting: Incursus
Depends how late your staying though got work tomorrow...
cant stay any later than 9pm
Wasn't sure if Ryan was staying over night to start work on bbq early morning....
Quoting: Incursus
Wasn't sure if Ryan was staying over night to start work on bbq early morning....
Ahh good thinking there but this is ryan (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lazy.gif) early is midday (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Quoting: 55starchief
Quoting: Incursus
Wasn't sure if Ryan was staying over night to start work on bbq early morning....
Ahh good thinking there
Opps sorry Ryan (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Quoting: Incursus
Can't bring the Fiero It needs to be burped again and I might not have time.
What??
Quoting: Incursus
Wasn't sure if Ryan was staying over night to start work on bbq early morning....
Wasn't planning too no...
Quoting: FUBAR
Unfortunatly that means we both need to be working in the same space...
cosy (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/gayfight.gif)
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Quoting: Jamieg285
I have a trailer wheel lock - I'll try and rem,ember to bring it.
Found it, and a ball hitch lock.
Will bring them both.
Quoting: Finlay
Now have ya any pictures of the beast with the pinstripe jobbie done.
Yes mate, deano took a load as it was being done
Quoting: 55starchief
Yes mate, deano took a load as it was being done
Stand by . . . .
Quoting: Incursus
We still want the Defender wheel arches? Fella from Land Rover is coming over on Thursday if we still want i'll ask...
I think we are good as we are mate, chances of the cutouts being the same would be slim
Quoting: Jamieg285
I think it looked OK as it was. Nicely finished, but not over the top.
Agreed.
The defender arches would be for much bigger diameter then the trailor wheels so it would look odd in hindsight.
Sweet (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
plus they are probably 24v
just change the lamp to a 12v one
Quoting: philoldsmobile
i'd personaly prefer 4 of those round ones with the rectangualr indicator across the full width in the middle like trucks have..
Yup they are cool. I was trying to find the rear tail lights for a fire engine but that was all i found. I just think the current lights are a little on the small size
Quoting: Titsy
Has anyone seen this thread?
IDEA - THE BILLING SUMMER NATS BBQ BUILD OFF
Yeah, where we lead others follow eventualy
Quoting: philoldsmobile
the emails with "banned?... WTF?" are FLOODING in!
Tell us more, PhilO . . . After all they've had Soooooo many complaints an' all.
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Quoting: ianjpage
oh yeah but all it has is a std VGA output...also how the sensors connected - USB / Serial etc???
no probs i think titsy might have a graphics card with the output the LCD display needs
Serial for the sensors im guessing
Quoting: ianjpage
WTF 2 quid for a monitor - wot size??
Don't know just saw em lined up in the window with a big sign saying £2 each , I'll have a look in th emorning if your interested ?
Quoting: ianjpage
WTF 2 quid for a monitor - wot size??
I'm guessing they aren't flat panels...
Quoting: FUBAR
I'm guessing they aren't flat panels...
probably crappy 14" Green screens !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
EDIT
Ahem.
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Quoting: FUBAR
I'm guessing they aren't flat panels...
Nope but Aldi are doing a 17" flat screen TV/Monitor with built in DVD for £199 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: ianjpage
oh yeah but all it has is a std VGA output...also how the sensors connected - USB / Serial etc???
Parallel port would be good....
Quoting: F Body
Quoting: ianjpage
WTF 2 quid for a monitor - wot size??
Don't know just saw em lined up in the window with a big sign saying £2 each , I'll have a look in th emorning if your interested ?
Please do mate!!
Quoting: Titsy
Quoting: ianjpage
oh yeah but all it has is a std VGA output...also how the sensors connected - USB / Serial etc???
Parallel port would be good....
OK will check the connectors / expansion slots etc
Quoting: ianjpage
Quoting: F Body
Quoting: ianjpage
WTF 2 quid for a monitor - wot size??
Don't know just saw em lined up in the window with a big sign saying £2 each , I'll have a look in th emorning if your interested ?
Please do mate!!
I'm on my way round there now (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
OMG some Project Management!
Don't look at me !!!
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Quoting: FUBAR
seemed like a good idea...
A Very good idea, actually.
TBH, the BBQ probably has a limited life - but we can prolong this as much as possible by giving it a once-over every year . . .
Quoting: Roadkill
TBH, the BBQ probably has a limited life
I dunno its built well, should last ages I reckon
Quoting: FUBAR
I dunno its built well, should last ages I reckon
The biggest problem will be finding something to tow it ?
PhilO's Astro has gone, Ian's thinking about changing his and I can't fit a tow bar on the GMC coz of the body kit & low height.
Anybody else fancy a tow bar ?
Quoting: FUBAR
towing is not on my driving licence
I've got a man with a red flag on mine (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Quoting: F Body
PhilO's Astro has gone, Ian's thinking about changing his and I can't fit a tow bar on the GMC coz of the body kit & low height.
Ian will still have a tow bar unless hes getting rid of his caravan as well
Quoting: F Body
I've got a man with a red flag on mine
Allows you to direct manuvering aircraft whilst driving...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
towing is not on my driving licence
Ditto - Which is a good point as I was looking into the possibility of a pick-up . . . .
Quoting: FUBAR
towing is not on my driving licence
Being of the generation where we drove 250cc bikes on L plates (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
I forget that they brought all these rules in for newer drivers (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
How do you get a towing licence (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Quoting: F Body
The biggest problem will be finding something to tow it ?
PhilO's Astro has gone, Ian's thinking about changing his and I can't fit a tow bar on the GMC coz of the body kit & low height.
Anybody else fancy a tow bar ?
I aint getting rid of a van altogether so am fine to keep towing it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: 55starchief
Ian will still have a tow bar unless hes getting rid of his caravan as well
Exactly!
Quoting: ianjpage
OK i could be up there sunday to do work on it - few Q's though...
sunday is the meet mate
Quoting: ianjpage
1 - Do we have a new replacement hinge?
No we need to fabricate something as i cant find hinges that will stand up to the heat2 - Is there a grinder with cutting disc at the barn to redo the hole?
yes and no, i have a grinder but chances are we will be using it on the T/A i do have plenty of cutting discs though3 - Do we have a handle for it?
Nope need to fabricate something4 - Do we have the chains for the back flap?
pretty sure i have some jack chain left from hanging the lights5 - What wiring is there??
wiring is done just needs a quick connect to make the number plate lights work and clip the wiring upQuoting: 55starchief
Quoting: ianjpage
OK i could be up there sunday to do work on it - few Q's though...
sunday is the meet mate
Yeah not until 3 though - that means the morning / early arvo is nice n free!
Quoting: 55starchief
No we need to fabricate something as i cant find hinges that will stand up to the heat
Ahh bugger.....surely there must be some out there??
Quoting: 55starchief
yes and no, i have a grinder but chances are we will be using it on the T/A i do have plenty of cutting discs though
OK...could be interesting then.....anyone got another one?
Quoting: 55starchief
Nope need to fabricate something
Fair enough
Quoting: 55starchief
pretty sure i have some jack chain left from hanging the lights
Quoting: 55starchief
pretty sure i have some jack chain left from hanging the lights
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Quoting: 55starchief
wiring is done just needs a quick connect to make the number plate lights work and clip the wiring up
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Quoting: ianjpage
Yeah not until 3 though - that means the morning / early arvo is nice n free!
I cant make the sunday as i need to go check on my new place before the meet
Quoting: ianjpage
Ahh bugger.....surely there must be some out there??
Not that i can find, they need to be large and everything i can find is just to small. What it reall needs is some steel bent over and a piece of bar slid through. I will do a drawing and see if philo can get it made up at work
Quoting: 55starchief
I cant make the sunday as i need to go check on my new place before the meet
Ahh ok maybe next w/end then - might give us time to organise another grinder
Quoting: 55starchief
Not that i can find, they need to be large and everything i can find is just to small. What it reall needs is some steel bent over and a piece of bar slid through. I will do a drawing and see if philo can get it made up at work
Hmm yeah might be an idea
Quoting: 55starchief
1 - Do we have a new replacement hinge? No we need to fabricate something as i cant find hinges that will stand up to the heat
Would something like this stand up to it as its stainless and the pivot is off the surface?
(http://www.juststainless.co.uk/asp/images/products/hinges/JSP5048_lrg.jpg)
http://www.juststainless.co.uk/asp/hinges.asp
£5 each BTW... from there anyway but i'm sure ome of us knows somewhere (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif) I can put some time in BTW
Quoting: FUBAR
The strap hinges on the 2nd link look good, good grade of stainless too.
problem is all those type of hinge ar just too small, the gate ones above have a huge area to weld them to the tank
Quoting: FUBAR
Would something like this stand up to it as its stainless and the pivot is off the surface?
They look just the ticket...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
The crucial thing with these is that the Pivots all need to be in line! that was the problem with the last lot more than the heat, they weren't lined up.
Indeed... The holes that are there at the moment could all do with filling with weld and grinding back ready for a fresh set...
Quoting: 55starchief
wiring is done just needs a quick connect to make the number plate lights work and clip the wiring up
I'll see if we have anything at work for this if you have a look see how many ways go to the hatch...
Quoting: ianjpage
Ahh ok maybe next w/end then - might give us time to organise another grinder
I cant make next sunday as I'm paintballing, but the Saturday should be clear...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Quoting: 55starchief
Well if some one wants to buy hinges and bolt them then do it
I'll sort something out m8.
Quoting: Titsy
How about we just weld on some box section and fix a wooden handle across it...
that would also work... not pimpy though (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
If they are upto the job then the plus side would be that we can remove the lid when cooking should we want to.
That was my thinking, they are the proper heavy duty 5 bar gate hinges not the flimsy garden gate ones. Once welded on i cant see how they would warp
Quoting: FUBAR
One things about the siting of the old handle... when you opened the hot lid you had to arch your wrist up because the handle dissappeared behind the lid... is there a way to drop the handle down below the bottom edge of the lid section (when closed) so that it is above the lid when open? thus preventing this problem...
You could do what I said with the box section but weld it at a tangent to the lid so that it hangs below the bottom edge of the lid... that way you can keep hold of it the whole way up...
Quoting: Titsy
You could do what I said with the box section but weld it at a tangent to the lid so that it hangs below the bottom edge of the lid... that way you can keep hold of it the whole way up...
Yeah that would work (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
It wasn't my thinking though, I was refering to the ones FUBAR found with the R-Clip...
with the HD gate hinges you could remove the lid when its hot unlike the 'R' clips which would get hot.
Quoting: FUBAR
Also withe the new hinges the Lid WILL need a Backstop to stop stressing the hinges...
Again another reason for the gate hinge as it would fold back on its self. The rod it hinges on is quite thick almost 1/2" so should be man enough. If you have ever lifted a 5 bar gate its not light at all, i would say almost as heavy as the damn tank
Quoting: 55starchief
Again another reason for the gate hinge as it would fold back on its self.
You would still need to fit something to stop the lid as it would fold all the way back over the BBQ with the gate hinges stopping you from closing it without bursting into flames...
Quoting: 55starchief
with the HD gate hinges you could remove the lid when its hot unlike the 'R' clips which would get hot.
Not if you remove it before firing up... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: ianjpage
definatley think we need to re cut the top part of the opening to make it level, weld up & gtrind back existing holes, then drill & fit which ever hinges...do that first then sort handle out....
Or...
You mount the hinges to a hefty strip of steel or stainless (pref steel) on both sides of the hinge... that way the huge strip can be seam welded to the tank all along and not only does it tidy up the gap along the top edge but it gives you a solid base to be bolting the stainless hinges too.
this also ensures that the hinges will be 100% lined up even before mounting preventing the stress related death that the last ones suffered from.
Quoting: FUBAR
Or...
You mount the hinges to a hefty strip of steel or stainless (pref steel) on both sides of the hinge... that way the huge strip can be seam welded to the tank all along and not only does it tidy up the gap along the top edge but it gives you a solid base to be bolting the stainless hinges too.
this also ensures that the hinges will be 100% lined up even before mounting preventing the stress related death that the last ones suffered from.
Ai true, although i think that then you are gunna put all the stress on teh welds, which are (if they go) a bigger job than some new hinges to replace??
Quoting: FUBAR
if you want to be really artistic you could design in a flame design stretching over the top of the tank from the hinges disguising in design the fact that the sawsal wobbly cut had to be covered...
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Quoting: 55starchief
Well i dont care what you guys do as long as it gets done. The top edge also needs capping and the side panels on the front need the corner trim. Also need to find some rivets with a large diameter head 10mm to match with the others used to fix the trim on
Yeah def needs doing before the AACUK Spring nats!!
Quoting: Jamieg285
Personally, I'd do a custom hinge.
One long bar, 1/2 diameter or thicker, and then some tube, a with a bit bigger hole down the middle, i.e. allows the bar to move, but not to snug or sloppy.
Cut the tube into sections. With the pieces of tube on the bar, and the bar in the final position, weld alternate tubes to the lid and the others to the body - add strips of metal to extend/fit as required.
Make sure the bar is at least 2 inches wider than the outermost bits of tube, and drill throuh to be able to insert R-clips to hold it in place/allow easy removal of the bar to remove the door.
The single bar will remove the need to allign multiple hinges.
Thats basicaly what a 5 bar ghate hinge is, hence the reason for sugesting that. But what do i know (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Quoting: Jamieg285
Yes, but they require multiple hinges... and aligning properly.
i was going to recomend a pair which would be more than enough for that lid. But if others want to use other soloutions i dont mind
Quoting: EDGE
im sure b & q sell really long mild steel hinges that you cut to length.....
Hmmmm
Quoting: EDGE
im sure b & q sell really long mild steel hinges that you cut to length.....
Like a Piano Hinge... the trouble is i'm not convinved it would stand up to the heat...
Quoting: FUBAR
I honestly don't think that what is designed as purely a cover for bolts on a padlock will stand up to the heat / use of being hinges for the BBQ lid
May well be the case, but there about 10mm thick hardened steel and would have as good a chance as anything else you can buy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
- Replacement Charcoal Grill (Idea in on this using solid Mild Steel Bar)
Best thing after chatting to phil/dean is angle mild steel - will measure up this weekend and get philo to get some and then we'll get a welding a new grill up (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Something is actually being done to the BBQ
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Surely not !
Quoting: FUBAR
which will definately be mounted in a straight line...
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I've also got some ideas . . . . . . . I may come along. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Surely not !
yeah well after we dopne ryan's car at least lol
Quoting: Roadkill
I've also got some ideas . . . . . . . I may come along.
OK but speak now as ryan is/will be ordering hings
Quoting: ianjpage
OK re the charcole grill i thought somethink like either of the below, made out of the angle steel, all welded up, should be strong enough to resist warping.
the top would need to be covered in a strong mesh (again welded to the agle steel), but other than that - comments / thoughts / suggestions....
B&Q sell heavy cast iron ceramic coated grill plates, I bought two and disc cut about 2" off one end to fit our BBQ. I think they were about £15 each (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: F Body
B&Q sell heavy cast iron ceramic coated grill plates,
Is that for the food to be cooked on cos this is the the coals to sit on...
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: FUBAR
hinges which will definately be mounted in a straight line...
I've also got some ideas . . . . . . . I may come along.
This Link: http://www.a2a4.com/acatalog/copy_of_WELD_ON_HINGES.html
The Part: WELD ON HINGE WITH 3 LEAVES 14 X 147mm ART 8130
They're Stainless & basically what I plan to do is comission PhilO to weld the 3 hinges to 2 strips of Stainless (3mm think?, either way sturdy, but not too think as to look stupid) which is then in turn welded or bolted to each side of the hinged join on the outside of the Tank.
This will essentially then create a entirely new (DEAD STRAIGHT) hinged joint superceeding the old wonky cut underneath. It will also hide it and the old hinge holes quite nicely too.
I see no reason why this won't work perfectly.
Quoting: ianjpage
Is that for the food to be cooked on cos this is the the coals to sit on...
Well I think they are designed for the food to be cooked on, but I used them for the coals to sit on (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
100mm open x 8mm pin x 3mm thick per 1820mm
Gotta have a reasonable chance of surviving, me I'd just buy a couple of heavy duty padlock shackles and weld them on (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Handle looks nice, providing the mounting holes are big enough (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Quoting: F Body
Well I think they are designed for the food to be cooked on, but I used them for the coals to sit on
Hmm TBH i think that with the heat that 4 - 5 bags of coal generate it would be a bit too much for anything that isn't truly industrial....
Quoting: FUBAR
Or there's this... which is basically what i've just described already made up... (not cheap tho...) but probably on par with the other plan...
I think your idea is essentially the same, and tbh prob work out cheaper (and although we don't want anything cheap quality cheap cost is important at the mo me thinks!)
Quoting: FUBAR
Handle...
Reckon 2 of these would take the heat? they're not cast from monkey metal like the old ones were...
Quoting: FUBAR
They do a middle one too.
Should do nicely, and prob worth getting middle one as extra strength and support....
Quoting: FUBAR
A nicer looking Handle arrangement (again not urgent)
Conrods and some bar... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: ianjpage
OK re the charcole grill i thought somethink like either of the below
Quoting: ianjpage
suggestions....
The bracing lay-out on the second design wouldn't be efficient. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: ianjpage
OK but speak now as ryan is/will be ordering hings
I'm fine with that - I was thinking other stuff . . .
Quoting: FUBAR
Reckon 2 of these would take the heat?
Should do - although I'd suggest some sort of thin sandwich plate between it and the outside of the BBQ tank . . . not sure on material of said plate, though.
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Quoting: Titsy
Conrods and some bar...
Would be quite difficult to achieve, I reckon. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
The bracing lay-out on the second design wouldn't be efficient.
first one ok then i take it ??
Quoting: Roadkill
I'm fine with that - I was thinking other stuff . . .
cool - what stuff then ??
Quoting: ianjpage
first one ok then i take it ??
Basically, yeah. I'd alter the bracing lay out a little but not much.
Quoting: ianjpage
cool - what stuff then ??
Not sure, yet . . . Just want to have a look over it, first and see . . .
Quoting: Roadkill
Basically, yeah. I'd alter the bracing lay out a little but not much.
okies - have to sketch summat out then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Not sure, yet . . . Just want to have a look over it, first and see . . .
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Quoting: Titsy
Quoting: FUBAR
A nicer looking Handle arrangement (again not urgent)
Conrods and some bar...
Ooh I like...
thst given me an idea... you probably wouldn;t even need anything else as you could use the big ends as loop handles.
Angle them down so you can reach them over the lid when open. & just weld them on.
I know they'd be metal handles but if you think about it the lid is only ever open when the BBQ is hot, and it was the Heating / furnace idea that got the lid so hot before that it killed the original mountings.
On the hinge note, A2A4 haven't come back to me so i'll order the giant hinge from juststainless.co.uk i reckon, its not cheap I know but it will look good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
On the hinge note, A2A4 haven't come back to me so i'll order the giant hinge from juststainless.co.uk i reckon, its not cheap I know but it will look good
Is the current hinge bolted or welded on ?
Just thinking that you won't be able to weld the stainless to the mild steel tank (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Quoting: EDGE
if you use a wooden bar it wont get nearly as hot so you'll still be able to touch it
thats what we have at the moment, for that very reason. I prefer Steve's idea to mine so that would work well.
Quoting: Titsy
I was thinking more of removing the bearing caps and bolting the big ends onto the lid using the fasteners
That's what I'd guessed you meant.
What's the overall length, centre-to-centre . . . we don't want them too long ?
Quoting: Roadkill
What's the overall length, centre-to-centre . . . we don't want them too long ?
Of what, con rods...? Kinda depends on the doner...
Quoting: FUBAR
Today was a very productive day,
indeed it was a good day - fricking knackered now though !!
Quoting: FUBAR
- Tank was cleaned thoroughly and completely, was rather worrying how much congealed grease was in various corners of that tank
Yeah very clean and shiny now as well as more hygenic as used proper Cillit Bang stuff to clean and degrease it!!
Quoting: FUBAR
I'm sure Ian will post some pics he took today soon
yup here ya go -> http://bbq.mkb.cc/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=10
Quoting: FUBAR
Edging strips - ?? 2m needed of 3mm thick 30mm wide Stainless Steel.
spoke to phil - shouldn't be a prob he says - i will work out how much for sure and put the 'order' in (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Ian, can you PM me all the measurements we took today please m8.
yeah will do in the morn' - paper is downstairs and im orf to bed now!
Quoting: FUBAR
Did we measure the depth of the cooking surface by any chance?
Erm, nope don't think we did....
Quoting: ianjpage
Erm, nope don't think we did....
Ok no worries
Quoting: Andy
EDIT: Sorry for the typical newbie remark!
You're forgiven. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Ian - Re the bracing.
Looking at the frame as a rectangle, longest sides top and bottom, you want the bracing (I'd suggest a slightly smaller sized angle to sit within) to start mid point on the smaller sides (roughly as you've drawn) and maintain a 45* angle to the longer sides . . .
This will leave a fair gap between the ends of the bracing on the long sides so, dependant on actual measurement, it may be prudent to add a further piece to span the gap (mid point of the long side - parallel to the short side.
Although I think this would be overkill.
I'd recommend around 30x30 - to - 40x40 for the mainframe and 25x25 - to - 30x30 for the bracing respectively.
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As for further ideas I still need to come down and see her again . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
As for the work so far - it all sounds good. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Ian - Re the bracing.
Looking at the frame as a rectangle, longest sides top and bottom, you want the bracing (I'd suggest a slightly smaller sized angle to sit within) to start mid point on the smaller sides (roughly as you've drawn) and maintain a 45* angle to the longer sides . . .
This will leave a fair gap between the ends of the bracing on the long sides so, dependant on actual measurement, it may be prudent to add a further piece to span the gap (mid point of the long side - parallel to the short side.
Although I think this would be overkill.
I'd recommend around 30x30 - to - 40x40 for the mainframe and 25x25 - to - 30x30 for the bracing respectively.
ok **think** i get wot you mean need to re-do me drawing somepoint today!
phil can get 30x30, 40x40 or 50x50 - so would 50x50 for the main and 30x30 for the bracing be enough to withstand the heat??
Quoting: Roadkill
As for further ideas I still need to come down and see her again . . . .
Prob going down again in a fortnight (ryan??)
Quoting: ianjpage
so would 50x50 for the main and 30x30 for the bracing be enough to withstand the heat??
I'd say 40x40 and 30x30 respectively should be fine.
If the heat effects those it'd distort the next size up, too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Quoting: ianjpage
Prob going down again in a fortnight (ryan??)
O.K, noted.
Quoting: ianjpage
Quoting: Roadkill
Ian - Re the bracing.
Looking at the frame as a rectangle, longest sides top and bottom, you want the bracing (I'd suggest a slightly smaller sized angle to sit within) to start mid point on the smaller sides (roughly as you've drawn) and maintain a 45* angle to the longer sides . . .
This will leave a fair gap between the ends of the bracing on the long sides so, dependant on actual measurement, it may be prudent to add a further piece to span the gap (mid point of the long side - parallel to the short side.
Although I think this would be overkill.
I'd recommend around 30x30 - to - 40x40 for the mainframe and 25x25 - to - 30x30 for the bracing respectively.
ok **think** i get wot you mean need to re-do me drawing somepoint today!
OK IF i interpret correctly summat like this (ignore the lines not aligning properly - best i can do in mspaint lol!)
(http://www.yanksrule.co.uk/temp/Plan1-1.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>Quoting: Roadkill
I'd say 40x40 and 30x30 respectively should be fine.
Quoting: ianjpage
OK IF i interpret correctly summat like this
Close.
Quoting: Roadkill
add a further piece to span the gap (mid point of the long side - parallel to the short side.
The bracing you've added isn't parallel to either side ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
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Quoting: Roadkill
add a further piece to span the gap (mid point of the long side - parallel to the short side.
The bracing you've added isn't parallel to either side !
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
do me a drawing then pls (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: ianjpage
Prob going down again in a fortnight (ryan??)
Not sure, i'd quite like to get there this weekend to get the battery back on the car. + dependant on Road Saltyness I might drop it off the stands & run it into Brackley.
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: ianjpage
OK IF i interpret correctly summat like this
Close.
I got ya (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
As crude as possible, something like this: (allow a bit of artistic licence here (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
_____
l< l >l
Quoting: FUBAR
As crude as possible, something like this
That's it. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
One thing, though . . what are the legs a) made from and b) sitting on ?
The leg in the middle isn't well-placed . . . I'd suggest a four or six-legged design . . .
Quoting: Roadkill
what are the legs made from
I think Ian was thinking the same angle steel as the rest (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
what are the legs sitting on ?
The concrete base i'd imagine.
Quoting: FUBAR
The concrete base i'd imagine.
I'd guessed the same.
Quoting: FUBAR
I think Ian was thinking the same angle steel as the rest
Makes sense - in that case it'd be a ball-ache putting one in the middle.
I'd leave it at four and see how it goes . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
This weekend or Next?
I'm not sure if Ian will let me borrow the Avensis 2 weekends in a row
NB. I've not ordered the hinge yet, been too busy during working hours.
Whichever is fine with me mate - i can always drive, tis not a worry
OK re hinge - i can very much sympathise - tue&wed this week were mad, today is only just slightly better (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
I'm not sure if Ian will let me borrow the Avensis 2 weekends in a row
I wouldn't wish that on anyone (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: ianjpage
Whichever is fine with me mate - i can always drive, tis not a worry
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/bump.gif) for ryan - which is best for you - could seal up the back end of the bbq this w/end - got plenty of sealant here/up there...
Quoting: FUBAR
Sorted the Rear lights wiring in slit loom & fixed it up out the way so its not trailing around on the floor of the cargo space.
note / reminder - need to work out way of wiring those number plate lights in....
Quoting: ianjpage
note / reminder - need to work out way of wiring those number plate lights in....
I know what will work, but I don;t know what its called so I can;t find it on the net.
Basically we need a smaller version of the contact plate that the 3rd gen camaro uses to power the 3rd brake light when the boot is closed.
This: (but smaller & with the other side of it too)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-92-CAMARO-FIERBIRD-REAR-PANEL-PULL-DOWN-CONTACT-TRIM_W0QQitemZ110338956092QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item110338956092&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Mount something like that at the top of the door so it connects when the door is put on & locked in place. Job done (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Did you pass on the details for that ally to be cut into 4 bits?
no cos i can't find the bit of ally lol.....will have another hunt in the car later and see if i can find it!!
Quoting: FUBAR
I know what will work, but I don;t know what its called so I can;t find it on the net.
Basically we need a smaller version of the contact plate that the 3rd gen camaro uses to power the 3rd brake light when the boot is closed.
Does anyone know what this type of contact is called? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) as i'm stuck.
Quoting: FUBAR
Does anyone know what this type of contact is called? as i'm stuck.
Can't remember... I thought VWP sold them, but I can't find them on their site... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Update:
Quoting: FUBAR
A few other things that spring to mind that need doing:
- New Brakes!!
- New Jockey Wheel
- Replacement Charcoal Grill (Idea in on this using solid Mild Steel Bar)
- Replacement Cooking Grill (I have an idea for this but its probably not cheap as it involves making it from Solid Stainless Bar...) this is not urgent at all TBH
(again not urgent)
- Purchase of Shiny Stainless things like hinges will be happening soon.
- New Brakes - Still very urgent
- New Jockey wheel - it still needs one.
- Replacement Charcoal Grill - Work in Progress I believe (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
- Replacement Cooking Grill - not urgent
- A nicer looking Handle arrangement - Now Urgent as we cut the old one off (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif). I have found (in B&Q of all places) something that will work for this, its basically a 52mm wooden staircase handrailing and associated end fittings... trouble is the fittings are £20 each but they can be appropriately shaped to fit the curve of the tank, and a length of pine 'rod' to go in the middle is £18 (Oak one is £50!!! sod that!) so its not cheap, but its chunky (possibly too chunky?) and will not break. anyone got any other ideas?
And... anyone want to volunteer to buy some bits for any of the above?
Quoting: FUBAR
- Purchase of Shiny Stainless things like hinges will be happening soon.
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Quoting: FUBAR
New Brakes - Still very urgent
Need to disassamble the current ones to see what shoes they are and work out what replacements are needed - possible job for this / next weekend - when you going up there??
Quoting: FUBAR
New Jockey wheel - it still needs one.
Plus new towhitch preferably (seeing as the current one is a tad low!)
Quoting: FUBAR
Replacement Charcoal Grill - Work in Progress I believe
Correct - steel angle ordered from phil - won't be here till next week though - same for the stainless stripping
Quoting: FUBAR
A nicer looking Handle arrangement - Now Urgent as we cut the old one off . I have found (in B&Q of all places) something that will work for this, its basically a 52mm wooden staircase handrailing and associated end fittings... trouble is the fittings are £20 each but they can be appropriately shaped to fit the curve of the tank, and a length of pine 'rod' to go in the middle is £18 (Oak one is £50!!! sod that!) so its not cheap, but its chunky (possibly too chunky?) and will not break. anyone got any other ideas?
Cool sounds a plan - there is still an unused bit of the handle wood that was on there before - stain that and would look (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
- A nicer looking Handle arrangement - Now Urgent as we cut the old one off . I have found (in B&Q of all places) something that will work for this, its basically a 52mm wooden staircase handrailing and associated end fittings... trouble is the fittings are £20 each but they can be appropriately shaped to fit the curve of the tank, and a length of pine 'rod' to go in the middle is £18 (Oak one is £50!!! sod that!) so its not cheap, but its chunky (possibly too chunky?) and will not break. anyone got any other ideas?
I'm sure I have some spare banister rail in the garage, not sure what wood it is, but you can have the required length for free. All you need then are the brackets.
Quoting: art b
cool ive never seen a wooden plug
LOL now I think of it it does look like that doesn't it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Drop door into channel...
push closed...
connection made...
DONE
Cost: £2.88 from maplin
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Quoting: FUBAR
Ian, I think its safe to say that:
A: The stuff will NOT be delivered tomorrow.
B: getting to the barn will be a nightmare in the truck (Brackley - Halse in particular as we're almost guaranteed to get stuck somewhere)
C: Working on the BBQ this weekend is probably not a good idea...
Thoughts please...
I'd say play it by ear and see how the weather goes today....
wouldn't mind going up there as need to drop the rent in as well but if weather is not good then so be it....
Quoting: ianjpage
think we'll not bother tomorow
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Lay-in FTW!!
Quoting: FUBAR
reckon thats going to be a problem?
Not if you pick all the nylon out... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Ian, did you ever find that block of aluminium?
Erm, no actually i didn't .... feck knows where tis!
Quoting: ianjpage
is sunday ok with u ryan?
Yep thats cool.
I've been out in the garage this evening for a while with a drill & wire wheel (friendly one, not evil angle gringer one) "brushing" the hinge, looks cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
yup, Ian has them, i'll bring the stainless strip home tomorrow too..
indeed i have a box of shiny nuts (!!) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) cheers phil
Cool re stainless - how we doing re the angle??
Quoting: philoldsmobile
yup, Ian has them, i'll bring the stainless strip home tomorrow too..
Cheers dude, much appreciated (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
We did however run into 1 problem... a whole host of blunt/snapped drillbits so the hinge isn't yet fitted because we ran out of the ability to drill holes in Stainless
that'll be finished for next weekend.
yeah we did have some issues ... spoke to phil and he said no problems to put the holes in the hinge and should be OK for next weekend (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (cheers phil !)
Quoting: FUBAR
BTW the Lid looks cool with the stainless on it
Oh hell yeah does it ever!!
[img]http://bbq.mkb.cc/gallery/albums/Feb%2009%20Service/150220091194.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>
[img]http://bbq.mkb.cc/gallery/albums/Feb%2009%20Service/150220091193.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>
Quoting: FUBAR
the Lid looks cool with the stainless on it
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Quoting: FUBAR
I've got the bits to make a new handle today, was cheaper than the previously suggested idea and will definately be up to the job. And its still wood too no worries about heat transfer.
ooo sounds good !!
Quoting: FUBAR
Quoting: FUBAR
anyone wanna get it?
ill see whats left after payday
Quoting: FUBAR
Well today was a very productive day, everything went without a hitch... literally:
Groan!!
Indeed was a good day - more pics from this and the previous work in teh BBQ Gallery -> http://bbq.mkb.cc/gallery (check the Feb servicing for latest pics!)
Few jobs left to do now:
Fix hitch
clean stacks
make coal grill
Quoting: art b
he he he.... wot sort of gags does he do.....
Ones the pick fun at people who can't spell or type... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
6 meters of 40x40x3 angle iron was ordered today..
cool cheers mate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: FUBAR
Ian, have you had any luck sourcing a Hitch assembly?
1st commission of 2009 is in 2 1/2 weeks (If people are planning on going to the chillout) and the 'Q is currently immovable...
am on the case!!
I'm not sure on the first chill out - i was planning for the AACUK nats being my first outing...
Quoting: Incursus
Wish I could have helped out a little but WORK study WORK
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Don't really miss drinking, although it would be nice to go out, but I miss working on projects most (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
NB : Looking good Boy's (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
a quick google reveals that PCd as MG midge / sprite, so it shoyld be easy to get wheels.. hmmm... minilites?
Link dump.
http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=1654
Quoting: Andy
What sort of material are you after for the grille? I've got (quite) literally tonnes of mild steel and other stuff outside the back doors. Its all rusty but nothing a wire wheel won't bring up. I could even tack it up for you if you want?
Hi andy
I think we are sorted for the grille as PhilO has gotten us some angle steel just waiting for him to bring it home (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)
cheers
Quoting: Roadkill
Look like 13's . . . I'll go out and see what Sammy's wheels are on hers . . .
cool - u got her car today then i take it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)