Author Topic: Headlights etc (Read 7049 times)

FUBAR · « **on:** October 24, 2005, 09:07:47 pm »

Jamie, where did you get that wiring kit for your headlights from that we were talking about at the

meet?

I've decided that a full HID conversion is a bit pricey atm (+ confusing! so many types!) so am going to try & sort my lights out with normal bulbs.

Which leads onto my next Q of what type of bulbs it uses...

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:13:27 pm »

The kit came from Classic Industries, but was part of a larger order (I wouldn't buy cheap items individually as they add an international fee)

You might be able to find a similar one over here from somewhere like Carnosuer(sp!) or similar.

Failing that, I know where we can buy all the components to make a custom fit version, probably for less than £40.

The bulbs are standard halogen H4's - they have 3 prongs on the back.

55starchief · « **Reply #2 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:14:01 pm »

http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/home.php

FUBAR · « **Reply #3 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:15:29 pm »

Quoting: Jamieg285

The bulbs are standard halogen H4's - they have 3 prongs on the back.

Is that for both the High and Low beam lights?

FUBAR · « **Reply #4 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:16:52 pm »

Quoting: Jamieg285

The kit came from Classic Industries, but was part of a larger order (I wouldn't buy cheap items individually as they add an international fee)

I was asking because I saw one on a UK based website recently that was identical & I couldn't remember where it was

+ its a good idea as it uses relays doesn't it? which means less wiring between the battery & the bulbs.

FUBAR · « **Reply #5 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:25:21 pm »

LOL after posting this a brainwave ensued & I remembered where i'd seen it!

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/lights-1/lights-1.html

Fast fit kit
For wiring a pair of fog or driving lamps.
Includes 30amp relay with pre-wired loom,
switch & bracket, connectors, instructions.
Ref:RLFK200 £11.87

[img]http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/lights-2/photo/RLFK200.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>

I assume 2 of these would be needed...

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:27:53 pm »

The H4 bulb has a high and low element yes.

The relay kit is a good idea for 2 reasons :-
- it stops the high current from the halogen bulbs going through the switch (and potentially damaging it or the wires)
- as you say, it shortens the wire distance, resulting in less power loss = brighter lights

I couln't find a kit at the site that Graeme has given above, but having a look elsewhere.

FUBAR · « **Reply #7 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:30:44 pm »

Quoting: Jamieg285

The H4 bulb has a high and low element yes.

well my lamps are separate so would it need separate bulbs?

is there a way to wire them up so that all 4 lamps are on at Low Beam & when Hi-Beam is selected the inner 2 switch to "Blinding mode"?

55starchief · « **Reply #8 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:34:37 pm »

what you could do is HID the outers with high and low and then the inners could be auxilary driving lamps with standard halogen lamps. Wouldnt take much wiring

FUBAR · « **Reply #9 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:37:15 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

what you could do is HID the outers

You mentioned that expensive word again...

55starchief · « **Reply #10 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:38:25 pm »

expensive but awesome performance with little current draw. Also cool as hell with that blue light

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:40:47 pm »

Quoting: FUBAR

LOL after posting this a brainwave ensued & I remembered where i'd seen it!

]http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/lights-1/lights-1.html

That's the company I was talking about that can supply all the parts.

The kit you show does a pair of lights, but just the basic 2 prong ones.

We need to know exactly what bulbs you have at the moment before making any real suggestions.

As far as what you want - anything is possible.

55starchief · « **Reply #12 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:42:08 pm »

impossible is nothing

FUBAR · « **Reply #13 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:42:38 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

expensive but awesome performance with little current draw. Also cool as hell with that blue light

I totally understand the

factor but can't justify the expenditure right now

On that subject whats the difference between the set at the top of this page at a whopping $1,218.33 and the set at the bottom at a more reasonable (but still too much) $597?

http://www.brightheadlights-hid.com/Headlights-x4656.htm

They both replace all 4 Lamps so whats to justify the more than doubling of cost?

Ryan

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:43:41 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

expensive but awesome performance with little current draw. Also cool as hell with that blue light

I'm not completely familiar with HID or the blue light, but you can get Xenon replacements for th H4 (and possibly others) that have a slight colour to them. Mine are blue, but give a whiter light.

FUBAR · « **Reply #15 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:45:14 pm »

Quoting: Jamieg285

that have a slight colour to them

Mine's got bloody red ones in it atm!

looks stupid + the hibeams still don't work (hence this thread)

Ryan

55starchief · « **Reply #16 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:45:27 pm »

the top ones are projector lamps mate, they give a more focused concentration of light than the other setup.

That other site has a single lamp conversion for £299

55starchief · « **Reply #17 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:50:08 pm »

This is why i like the HID conversions

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:53:03 pm »

Do you know what bulbs you have in the lights at the moment - that will tell us our start point.

FUBAR · « **Reply #19 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:54:31 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

This is why i like the HID conversions

Ditto m8, but I don't think I can really afford it at this point in time.
ATM I only want them to work properly over winter & at the moment they couldn't light up hedgehog let alone the whole road.

FUBAR · « **Reply #20 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:55:11 pm »

Quoting: Jamieg285

Do you know what bulbs you have in the lights at the moment - that will tell us our start point.

Unfortunatly I don't no, but I will look tonight. that way, as you say we can begin.

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:02:01 pm »

Do you need to go the full HID upgrade?

With Xenon bulbs and the relay kit, you should see a marked improvement on what you have.

FUBAR · « **Reply #22 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:06:34 pm »

Quoting: Jamieg285

With Xenon bulbs and the relay kit, you should see a marked improvement on what you have.

This is what i'm hoping, as the HIDs are pricey, maybe something for the future

Phil was looking at them on saturday & commented that besides them all being different colours my current Hi-Beams are DIMMER than my low beams! how cr@p is that!

Jamie I can see us having a long conversation about wiring at our next meet, what with this & the starters

55starchief · « **Reply #23 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:08:57 pm »

What year is your car ryan? as pre 84 you can run what ever wattage lamps you like, just be aware the higher the wattage the more current they will draw so wiring will need to be beefed up

FUBAR · « **Reply #24 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:10:34 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

What year is your car ryan?

1987 m8, so just missed that one, Dean however can use whatever he likes

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