Author Topic: Headlights etc (Read 7047 times)

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:10:51 pm »

How do the full beams currently work? I know you have 2 lights each side - What do the outer and inner do when you are on dipped and main currently?

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:13:19 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

What year is your car ryan? as pre 84 you can run what ever wattage lamps you like, just be aware the higher the wattage the more current they will draw so wiring will need to be beefed up

Didn't know about that rule - means I can go even higher with mine if I wanted.

What are they supposed to be limited to on post '84s?

FUBAR · « **Reply #27 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:16:32 pm »

Quoting: Jamieg285

How do the full beams currently work? I know you have 2 lights each side - What do the outer and inner do when you are on dipped and main currently?

Currently:

Cr@p Bulbs,
Outer Pair are Low Beam / Normal driving Lights.
Inner Pair are High Beam

+ the DS Low Beam light stays on extra low when the ignition is off. I imagine to be really proper that should be switched to the Passenger Side.

What i'd Like:

Xenon Bulbs,
Both Pairs to be Low Beam / Normal driving Lights

But the inner Pair to switch to Hi-Beam when this is selected. I'd imagine this would require the H4 bulbs you mentioned with the dual filament.

Ryan

55starchief · « **Reply #28 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:16:59 pm »

think its 60/ 55w mate

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:26:23 pm »

When we looked at your lights as KK, I think we saw that the outers were halogen converted already, but the inner weren't. This would explain why the highs are dimmer than the lows!

What you will probably need to do is get halogen conversion lamps (would think that this might be a stock item at USAutomotive) for the inners. (make sure it's for a dual filament bulb - I know H4's are (and they are also common and easy to get) and it doesn't need the sidelight mod, but it's no big deal if they do, you just don't wire them up.

Next step is then to get Xenon bulbs for inners and outers. Hence needing to know what you have now.

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:27:05 pm »

Oh, and fit the relay kit - very important - especially as you are running 4 bulbs.

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #31 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:31:20 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/home.php

I'm glad you posted this link G, I didn't know you could get matching sidelights. Will have to get these as they look crap at the moment - an orange dot in a white headlight.

FUBAR · « **Reply #32 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:42:44 pm »

So something Like this would be needed yeah?

http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/product.php?productid=16320&cat=255&page=1

would these do both the centre Hi/Lows and the outer Low only pair? (just with only 1 filament wired up? that way with only the Low Beam lights on they would all look the same...?

55starchief · « **Reply #33 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:47:31 pm »

you need to find what fotment the lamp holder is. Probably a H3 if its a single wire

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #34 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:49:13 pm »

If you want to stay legal, then yes, that's exactly the sort of bulb to go for. (Bear in mind I don't think the HID would be legal)
Nothing really stopping you going for the 100W bulbs either.

For true equality of light for both inner and outer, the yes you would want exactly the same bulbs in each. If doing that, why not just wire them all to work the same, all high or all low?

55starchief · « **Reply #35 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:51:12 pm »

The HID's are legal as they are only 55w mate just the quality of light produced is better

FUBAR · « **Reply #36 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:52:04 pm »

Quoting: Jamieg285

What you will probably need to do is get halogen conversion lamps (would think that this might be a stock item at USAutomotive)

An equivalent to these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-90-CHEVY-CAMARO-85-DIAMOND-CUT-HEADLIGHTS-5K-BULB_W0QQitemZ8009378485QQcategoryZ33710QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

But just the lenses... and from this country...

FUBAR · « **Reply #37 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:52:59 pm »

Quoting: Jamieg285

If doing that, why not just wire them all to work the same, all high or all low?

You know what... I hadn't thought of that!

55starchief · « **Reply #38 on:** October 24, 2005, 11:01:43 pm »

Quoting: FUBAR

But just the lenses... and from this country...

You wont find that size lens in the UK as nothing uses it, just been searching. You will have to use the USA ones like you currently have.

FUBAR · « **Reply #39 on:** October 24, 2005, 11:03:31 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

You wont find that size lens in the UK as nothing uses it, just been searching. You will have to use the USA ones like you currently have.

I'll speak to US Auto, & let you guys know tonight what i've got currently.

Ryan

FUBAR · « **Reply #40 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:34:52 am »

didn't have time to look tonight as I got home at 12:11am so will continue this discussion tomorrow evening.

Ryan

FUBAR · « **Reply #41 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:24:39 pm »

Does this make sense guys?

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55starchief · « **Reply #42 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:27:01 pm »

yup why doesnt it to you

FUBAR · « **Reply #43 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:29:56 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

yup why doesnt it to you

I want to know if that will work... Think it will... just a case of finding the correct 2 wires at the switches on the car & then having some fun with solder & heatshrink!

55starchief · « **Reply #44 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:31:50 pm »

yup that would work although i would double up on the relays just for good measure

FUBAR · « **Reply #45 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:33:52 pm »

So have 4 Relays total with 1 doing each power feed per side?

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #46 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:34:33 pm »

Yep, looks pretty close to what I'd do.

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #47 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:36:15 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

yup that would work although i would double up on the relays just for good measure

Would a 30A relay not be enough for 2 lights?

I suppose a few more pennies for the sake of being sure isn't a hardship.

FUBAR · « **Reply #48 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:37:27 pm »

Quoting: Jamieg285

Would a 30A relay not be enough for 2 lights?

I think Graeme was worried that a 30A relay would not be enough for 4 Lights.

Jamieg285 · « **Reply #49 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:37:30 pm »

Quoting: FUBAR

I want to know if that will work... Think it will... just a case of finding the correct 2 wires at the switches on the car & then having some fun with solder & heatshrink!

Why go all the way back to the switch - you have the low/high output that is easy to find under the bonnet - it goes directly to the bulbs. Just splice into those.