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« on: June 07, 2008, 10:08:58 am »
anyone know what the timing should be set to on an 88 305 tpi camaro

titnernet is getting useless for searching this kind of thing



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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2008, 10:54:22 am »
3rd gen.org....?
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2008, 11:57:12 am »
The sticker on the hood of my Car says 6deg (DR) for an auto Transmission and 6Deg (N) for a manual.

I assume this means that when its in drive which could be interesting to setup...
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2008, 01:32:34 pm »
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The sticker on the hood of my Car says 6deg (DR) for an auto Transmission and 6Deg (N) for a manual.

I assume this means that when its in drive which could be interesting to setup...



where is that sticker Ryan i couldnt/didnt find it

set it to 4deg in park hmmmmm

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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2008, 02:02:36 pm »
It's on the underside of the hood, front, left had side. it could well ahve been removed.
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2008, 05:27:59 pm »
6 degrees before top dead centre.

Make sure you set it with the ecu ignition advance wire unplugged.

iirc it's the brown one up in the loom at the back on the passenger side...

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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2008, 05:42:47 pm »
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6 degrees before top dead centre.

Make sure you set it with the ecu ignition advance wire unplugged.

iirc it's the brown one up in the loom at the back on the passenger side...




cheers Andy id did disconnect the advance wire, do you need to bypass the ecu ie short terminals A/B on the ecu block as well?

and should it be in park or drive


its a lot better than it was coz it was way off


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found the sticker

cant do it in drive though surely coz i might run myself over that must mean something else Ryan

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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2008, 06:08:39 pm »
Dude your talking all electrickery stuff!!!

do you need to bypass the ecu ie short terminals A/B on the ecu block as well?


Does that have a UNC or UNF thread?

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2008, 06:10:59 pm »
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Dude your talking all electrickery stuff!!!

do you need to bypass the ecu ie short terminals A/B on the ecu block as well?


Does that have a UNC or UNF thread?



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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2008, 06:25:11 pm »

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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2008, 06:34:36 pm »
Hey as long as it runs its doing ok.

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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2008, 07:00:25 pm »
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cheers Andy id did disconnect the advance wire, do you need to bypass the ecu ie short terminals A/B on the ecu block as well?


No need to do both as it has the same effect.  Personally I just unplug the wire, with no connection the ecu can't possibly interfere.

and should it be in park or drive


I stand to be corrected but...
I don't see why it should matter as again the ecu is disconnected so it isn't adjusting the timing and as long as the idle speed is the same in drive and park you're still setting the base timing to be 6 deg btdc at idle.  As you would clearly have to set it in neutral on a manual i fail to see why you shouldn't be doing it in neutral in an auto...

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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2008, 07:36:22 pm »
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Hey as long as it runs its doing ok.



not if i can run faster than it tell ya what guv these lectric cars aint half hard work

too much bloody maths it need stuff thats fixed with an ajustable or a hammer


cheers btw Andy

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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2008, 07:47:04 pm »
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too much bloody maths, it needs stuff thats fixed with an ajustable or a hammering wiff a root vegetable


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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2008, 01:06:02 am »
Seems like its getting sorted
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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2008, 03:58:45 pm »
Is there a vaccum advance on these 'modern' things?

That could explain the drive/neutral question.

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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2008, 04:01:36 pm »
im pretty sure its ecu controlled

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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2008, 04:41:01 pm »
right got timing set spot on in drive

set the IAC and TPS (nick are you paying attention heh heh) correctly

its a whole lot better but still lopes at idle and stutters when the hammer is dropped ? i am figuring plugs atm coz i dont think they have ever been changed

am praying its not the camshaft

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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2008, 04:44:45 pm »
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am praying its not the camshaft

or the torque converter....
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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2008, 07:07:47 pm »
you want to hope its ot the plugs.... i rekon its easier to change the cam !!!!!

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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2008, 07:10:20 pm »
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you want to hope its ot the plugs.... i rekon its easier to change the cam !!!!!


you aint wrong its bad enough just putting new plug leads on terrible design

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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2008, 07:10:59 pm »
I hope its the plugs. Them IAC's and TPS' can be a real pain

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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2008, 07:15:34 pm »
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I hope its the plugs. Them IAC's and TPS' can be a real pain



heh heh t0$$er good job i have an abandoned vette in the yard thats become a parts car

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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2008, 07:31:00 pm »
Job done.