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Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: 55starchief on June 26, 2006, 11:11:28 am
Well i thought i had this solved after speeking with art carr. I figured i would call a couple of places to see how much to  rebuild with the parts i would get from Art.
The hydro boxes used in alot of the 50's american cars were also used in rolls royce's so i called a restoration place and asked who they used. The guy was more than helpful and gave me 2 numbers.

Called the first guy and to say he was on another planet was an understatment. He would only build it with his own parts and wanted the car aswell. rebuild price was £4k

CAlled the second guy and again wouldnt rebuild with parts from art only there own parts which he couldnt guarantee would take the power his price was better but still £2k

Looks like i will have to call art up and see if he will give me a price to rebuild the box. will also need to figure shipping costs.

The last alternative is to retro fit the TH350 i have
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: Roadkill on June 26, 2006, 11:33:50 am
Yeah, American cars scare alot of people over here. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: 55starchief on June 26, 2006, 11:34:59 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Yeah, American cars scare alot of people over here.


No its the same box as fitted to the silvercloud and thats the rebuild cost of that box no matter what car it comes from
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: Roadkill on June 26, 2006, 11:43:21 am
F**k buying a Roller, then. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: FUBAR on June 26, 2006, 11:43:46 am
cos its a Roller I suppose.
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: 55starchief on June 26, 2006, 11:49:11 am
Quoting: FUBAR
cos its a Roller I suppose.


No its cause the box is a bastad to re build, its not like any other auto box and is a bitch to setup as it has 2 bands that actualy move on the change
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: philoldsmobile on June 26, 2006, 03:55:00 pm
why not use the TH350?
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: 55starchief on June 26, 2006, 03:57:28 pm
Quoting: philoldsmobile
why not use the TH350?


cause i have no rear motor mounts, if i use the th350 trans i need to dsesign and fabricate an adaptor plate, thes space the flexplate and then create some kind of rear motor mount.

As soon as i get a price from art im gonna probably ship my trans across to him. Shipping would be about $600 for a round trip
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: philoldsmobile on June 26, 2006, 04:00:16 pm
ahh..

thats what ya get for using something unusual i guess...
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: art b on June 26, 2006, 04:40:47 pm
that'll mean non stock then(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: 55starchief on June 26, 2006, 05:12:12 pm
Quoting: philoldsmobile

thats what ya get for using something unusual i guess...


The 55 chevy is the exact same design
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: Incursus on June 27, 2006, 11:01:44 am
Quoting: 55starchief
As soon as i get a price from art im gonna probably ship my trans across to him. Shipping would be about $600 for a round trip


And that works out cheaper than...


Quoting: 55starchief
if i use the th350 trans i need to dsesign and fabricate an adaptor plate, thes space the flexplate and then create some kind of rear motor mount.


?
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: 55starchief on June 27, 2006, 11:06:00 am
Quoting: Incursus
And that works out cheaper than...


possably i would also need to figure out how to get all the gears on the th350 as the shift patern on the hydromatic is completly different
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: philoldsmobile on June 27, 2006, 11:09:35 am
mooneyes pushbutton shifter!!! you know you want to!!
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: Roadkill on June 27, 2006, 11:10:50 am
Quoting: philoldsmobile
mooneyes pushbutton shifter!!!


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Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: 55starchief on June 27, 2006, 11:12:51 am
Quoting: philoldsmobile

mooneyes pushbutton shifter!!! you know you want to!!



yeah i was looking at that but at $1k its not cheap. If i can get a linac i might be able to get titsy to help me build a controler (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: 55starchief on June 27, 2006, 11:33:28 am
ok if the hydromatic doesnt work out im going for this

http://www.retrotekspeed.com/Smart%20Shift/smartshift.html
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: Roadkill on June 27, 2006, 12:10:30 pm
Does the box still shift up/down and kick down automatically if a "push botton" kit is fitted ?
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: 55starchief on June 27, 2006, 12:13:29 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Does the box still shift up/down and kick down automatically if a "push botton" kit is fitted ?


i guess so as thats a different linkage
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: Roadkill on June 27, 2006, 12:24:23 pm
Quoting: 55starchief
i guess so as thats a different linkage


So it just replaces the Gear selector ?
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: 55starchief on June 27, 2006, 12:25:37 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
So it just replaces the Gear selector ?


yup, they also do a paddle shift but its another $500 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) pretty sure titsy could build it for less
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: Roadkill on June 27, 2006, 12:27:19 pm
Quoting: 55starchief
paddle shift


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Not my bag . . . . . P.B auto sounds cool, though . . .
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: Motorama on July 03, 2006, 12:23:58 pm
Have you spoken to Dick at GM Automatics in Dagenham. He rebuilt the trans on my 59 Olds (4 speed TurboHydramatic thingy) about eighteen months ago, cant remember the exact figure but i'm sure it was around a grand. you can usually haggle him down a bit if you pay readies too.
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: 55starchief on July 03, 2006, 12:25:05 pm
Quoting: Motorama
Have you spoken to Dick at GM Automatics in Dagenham. He rebuilt the trans on my 59 Olds (4 speed TurboHydramatic thingy) about eighteen months ago, cant remember the exact figure but i'm sure it was around a grand. you can usually haggle him down a bit if you pay readies too.


No i havnt andy, you got a number for him. Although im still waiting for Art Carr to come back to me with a price for the parts
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: Motorama on July 03, 2006, 12:32:00 pm
020 8598 8822

GM Automatics
Unit E7, Chadwell Heath Industrial Park
Kemp Road
Dagenham
RM8 1SL
Title: 55 Pontiac Trans
Post by: FUBAR on July 03, 2006, 01:06:00 pm
Thats the place that rebuilt my gearbox.

Highly recommended (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)