Author Topic: Project Pure Pontiac 1977 Trans-Am Clone Racer (Read 5739 times)

Shifty · « **Reply #25 on:** October 24, 2006, 06:30:09 am »

Quoting: F Body

Car £400 ?

£300 for the car
£50 for the trailer

and

£50 for the repair of the trailer after we broke it

Quoting: F Body

Total £1,600 still budget I surpose but I was thinking more shoe string

The origional budget was estimated to be £2000 so this isnt that bad,

There will also be around £400 worth of machining and there will always be a couple of hundred quid for extras that you never budget for like fluids, gaskets, other things you break etc...

Also we still need to replace the rear breaks.

£2000 might sound alot but for what the car will be once it is finished thats not a bad price.

55starchief · « **Reply #26 on:** October 24, 2006, 07:45:30 am »

Quoting: F Body

Total £1,600 still budget I surpose but I was thinking more shoe string

you could have fixed it for a lot less but we wanted a race motor not a daily driver.

Quoting: Shifty

£2000 might sound alot but for what the car will be once it is finished thats not a bad price.

Its still a cheap car as 2nd gen birds normally go for about £3k upwards depending on condition

Quoting: Shifty

Quoting: F Body
Car £400 ?

£300 for the car
£50 for the trailer

and

£50 for the repair of the trailer after we broke it

Yeah in hindsight it might have been an idea to stop at the local garage and put air in the tyres

Roadkill · « **Reply #27 on:** October 24, 2006, 08:54:39 am »

How much is shipping, Tax and Duty gonna be on that lot ?

55starchief · « **Reply #28 on:** October 24, 2006, 08:58:06 am »

Quoting: Roadkill

How much is shipping, Tax and Duty gonna be on that lot ?

not that much as its being shipped with a load of other parts i have out there

***edit*** that price includes the VAT

Incursus · « **Reply #29 on:** October 24, 2006, 04:06:21 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

Right parts have been ordered the list is as follows

Forged Pistons with plasma rings and chrome moly floating pins and spirolocks
Forged H beam Rods
Manley Highflow 1 piece s/steel valves
Harland Sharp roller rockers
Compcam pro magnum lifters
Compcam with custom grind
chrome moly pushrods with hardened ends
springs,retainers and locks
gear drive
pure pontiac blue printed oil pump
sfi pro race harmonic ballancer
brass freeze plugs
head plugs
holley blue top pump and regulator
purple hornies glass packs
summit racing X pipe set
summit racing 3 position drag shocks front and rear
summit racing drive shaft saftey hoop
Aluminium valley pan

Parts £1200
Car £400
Total £1600

Sounds good...means almost feck all to me...but sounds good

55starchief · « **Reply #30 on:** October 24, 2006, 04:57:14 pm »

Quoting: Incursus

Sounds good...means almost feck all to me...but sounds good

It means that we are gonna have a very quick car if we can get it to hook up, thats gonna be the chalenge more than building the car

Incursus · « **Reply #31 on:** October 24, 2006, 05:22:00 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

It means that we are gonna have a very quick car if we can get it to hook up

Which reminds me...think i'll go check out those shocks on summit

Incursus · « **Reply #32 on:** October 24, 2006, 05:24:49 pm »

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2DG7602&N=700+4294908078+4294908074+4294925079+4294925130+4294839061+4294919396+115&autoview=sku

thems the ones? sorry brief

55starchief · « **Reply #33 on:** October 24, 2006, 05:27:01 pm »

Quoting: Incursus

Which reminds me...think i'll go check out those shocks on summit

at $24.95 they are a bargain here are your part numbers :-

front = SUM-G7602
rear = SUM-G7703

Ponti · « **Reply #34 on:** October 24, 2006, 06:12:34 pm »

Have you got any prices on the tyres yet?

55starchief · « **Reply #35 on:** October 24, 2006, 06:13:33 pm »

Quoting: Point and Squirt Racing

Have you got any prices on the tyres yet?

Not yet but i dont pay for tyres anyway so its not to much of a problem

55starchief · « **Reply #36 on:** October 28, 2006, 07:01:16 pm »

Well we stripped the bottom end of the motor today. Not a pretty sight nearly all the bearings had damage and a couple had some serious grooves both mains and rods. Then on close inspection a crack in the block so the motor is now junk. The hairline crack is on the middle web and runs through the location stud for the bearing cap. Now this would be fine for a daily driver but sticking 500+hp through it will just be to risky so looks like we need a new block. Will be calling andy when he gets back to his shop on wednesday.

F Body · « **Reply #37 on:** October 29, 2006, 06:38:25 am »

Quoting: 55starchief

Not a pretty sight nearly all the bearings had damage and a couple had some serious grooves both mains and rods. Then on close inspection a crack in the block so the motor is now junk

Bummer Mate but as I said it didn't sound like a well motor !

55starchief · « **Reply #38 on:** October 29, 2006, 08:57:03 am »

Quoting: F Body

Bummer Mate but as I said it didn't sound like a well motor !

Yeah not a problem though as i can get another block from andy. I reckon its gonna be cheaper to get another block and have it bored than it would have been to have the original block bored in the UK.

Incursus · « **Reply #39 on:** October 29, 2006, 04:42:28 pm »

Graeme,

I found some pics I took of the Pontiac can't remember if I uploaded them before so I've uploaded to the ftp. if you want em.

Ponti · « **Reply #40 on:** October 29, 2006, 06:51:48 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

Then on close inspection a crack in the block so the motor is now junk.

Eugh

Not good. Would lend you one of my motors

ianjpage · « **Reply #41 on:** October 29, 2006, 07:39:06 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

Well we stripped the bottom end of the motor today. Not a pretty sight nearly all the bearings had damage and a couple had some serious grooves both mains and rods. Then on close inspection a crack in the block so the motor is now junk. The hairline crack is on the middle web and runs through the location stud for the bearing cap. Now this would be fine for a daily driver but sticking 500+hp through it will just be to risky so looks like we need a new block. Will be calling andy when he gets back to his shop on wednesday.

Bit of a bummer, but at least you found out now rather than 1/2 way down a run!!!

55starchief · « **Reply #42 on:** October 29, 2006, 08:48:14 pm »

Quoting: ianjpage

Bit of a bummer, but at least you found out now rather than 1/2 way down a run!!!

Yup, the block would be fine in daily use but the stresses that drag racing would put on it there is a chance the small fracture could become a major issue resulting in catastrophic failure.

Ponti · « **Reply #43 on:** November 01, 2006, 12:01:41 pm »

Mister Starchief, do you need a line lock for this lovely car?

If so found this for you

HURST ROLL-CONTROL Electric line lock - still new in original box, pt.no 174 5000. £45.00

Call Steve @ SpeedShack 01895-449066. Mail order no problem, most credit cards taken.

55starchief · « **Reply #44 on:** November 01, 2006, 12:03:42 pm »

hmmmm thats a good price

Ponti · « **Reply #45 on:** November 01, 2006, 12:09:09 pm »

Very good price. Now you have a good master cylinder to work from

Titsy · « **Reply #46 on:** November 01, 2006, 12:15:20 pm »

Out of interest, are you swapping the drum brakes out for discs?

55starchief · « **Reply #47 on:** November 01, 2006, 12:20:22 pm »

Quoting: Titsy

Out of interest, are you swapping the drum brakes out for discs?

nope not worth doing

F Body · « **Reply #48 on:** November 01, 2006, 12:44:31 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

nope not worth doing

Well the off side drum is toast !

But if your lucky jamie might have a good used spare

55starchief · « **Reply #49 on:** November 01, 2006, 12:49:42 pm »

Quoting: F Body

Well the off side drum is toast !

But if your lucky jamie might have a good used spare

yeah but they arnt a fortune to replace $22 from kragen