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« Reply #50 on: October 20, 2009, 05:50:40 pm »
My reply to yesterdays e-mail :

Thank you for your prompt reply and I received the receipt in this mornings post.
However I'm not convinced that you have taken any steps to avoid any re-occurrence ?
Presumably you will continue to book and service Ducati's without any mention of the need to exceed the stated service mileage so that the service indicator can be turned off ?
How many other Ducati's have now been serviced without access to the required diagnostic equipment ? At a 600 mile service it may not be that crucial, but I'm sure customers would be horrified to find out this function was missed during a major service ?
Apologies are easy, but actions actually require you to do something !

Yours Sincerely

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« Reply #51 on: October 20, 2009, 08:47:31 pm »
The guy I work with has been in the motorcycle trade for about 25 years, selling every major brand of sports bike and I showed hm this thread and he agrees with me on the Italian thing.  

He says wait until you need a part in August when they'll tell you "Sorry mate, Italy is shut", lol!!!

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« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2009, 10:06:51 pm »
ive worked in milan in august ..and hes not kidding....
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« Reply #53 on: October 21, 2009, 06:46:52 am »
I'll just have to make sure I don't break it

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« Reply #54 on: October 23, 2009, 01:31:58 pm »
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I have the option of a free service indicator re-set at another well known Ducati dealer on Saturday



Went early this morning and it's all sorted

A big thank you to Red Dog Ducati in Potters Bar, went through all the dianostics on the bike and offered me a burger and cup of tea [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/eat.gif" alt="" border="0" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" class="bbc_img" />
Cost zero, zilch, nothing, zit, no bananas

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« Reply #55 on: October 23, 2009, 02:15:10 pm »
Just got an e-mail from Ducati UK :

Dear Mr F Body

 With reference to your recent correspondence regarding your Ducati Monster 696 , your comments have been passed for my attention.
I am sorry to hear of the problems you have experienced with your dealership Ducati Aylesbury and for the undoubted inconvenience caused as a result.
We do value customer comments very highly so I have passed your comments onto the dealer principle for him to comment on and feel that the matter should be discussed directly between yourself and your dealer to resolve the matters amicably.
Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention and co-operation with this matter.

Steve Cox
After Sales Department

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« Reply #56 on: October 23, 2009, 03:27:24 pm »
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and feel that the matter should be discussed directly between yourself and your dealer


Nice passing of the Buck, Mr Cox.

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« Reply #57 on: October 23, 2009, 04:44:47 pm »
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Nice passing of the Buck, Mr Cox.



Indeed and I've just had another reply from Aylesbury Ducati :

Dear F Body,
 
I am glad that you have managed to get your service light reset - as I said
in my last email, I would have been happy to contact another dealer on your
behalf.  We have received the codes that we need to sort out our diagnostic
equipment and this will be up and running again by the end of today.
 
I do understand your concern but please bear in mind that the diagnostic
problems were with the new Monster 696, 1100 and Hypermotards only (not
across the whole range), the fault occurred very recently, and we have not
carried out a major service on any of these models during this time.  It
sounds as though you think we have been deliberately lying to our customers!
We have done our best to get the problem sorted as quickly as possible - I
don't think we can be held responsible for the equipment failing.
 
I have modified my service spreadsheet so that it reads 625 miles instead of
600 but, if you were to check your warranty and service book, it does in
fact say "1000km", which is equivalent to 625 miles.  The reason we don't
tell all our customers at time of booking that they must exceed this mileage
is because servicing is also based on time, so this could potentially void
their warranty.  I apologised on behalf of my colleague for failing to
explain to you about the service light when you collected your bike, as it
was noted on your job card and is not normally something we would overlook.
Hopefully this won't happen again.
 
Regards,
 
Heather Swinney
After Sales Manager
On Yer Bike
Tel:  01296 655 569
Fax:  01296 655 950
Email:  service@onyerbike.net


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« Reply #58 on: October 23, 2009, 06:06:48 pm »
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With todays engines you can't do jack without one, even basic things like idle speed is adjusted electronically



to be fair though, there should be no need to adjust the idle speed if everything is working properly... in fact, diagnostics should only be needed at a big service or if a fault occurs. Many independents specialists will do a scan at every service, but its just a courtesy, not a necessity.

Cant help feeling yer being a bit harsh Martyn, one very minor mistake (with no detrimental effect) isn't the end of the world, if they continually drop the ball though, its time to look for a new dealer..

If you think this was bad, try dealing with Lexus MK

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Ducati ......the alfa of the bike world......


yup.. and all the better for it.

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« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2009, 06:07:53 pm »
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If you will buy Italian...


you clearly have style, taste and sophistication..


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« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2009, 06:11:37 pm »
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Cant help feeling yer being a bit harsh Martyn,


Meeeeeeeee harsh

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« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2009, 06:28:16 pm »
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you clearly have style, taste, sophistication, a hankering for self induced issues and an unhealthy obsession with the dealerships coffee and rental cars


fixed that for you a bit dude, you spelt coffee wrong :)

plus. Ffs martin, they appologised, several times, what are you hoping for exactly, a free air freshener next time?  If you keep digging at them they're likely to refuse to work on your bike and do you think they'll really care??  

Either that or they'll give in and give you a free magic tree, right in the helmet !!!

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« Reply #62 on: October 23, 2009, 07:25:46 pm »
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If you will buy Italian...

you clearly have style, taste and sophistication..



or a disposition to squander money....
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« Reply #63 on: October 24, 2009, 01:07:13 pm »
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or a disposition to squander money..


only in so far as a voracious appetite for super unleaded, perhaps

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« Reply #64 on: October 24, 2009, 06:25:47 pm »
how much,
 is ya next alfa main dealer service.....
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« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2009, 07:01:58 pm »
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how much,
is ya next alfa main dealer service.....


my next independant alfa specialist service (main dealers are for mugs with more money than sense) is.....umm.......somewhere between £800 and £900

yup, its cam belt time in april.

thats...

cam belt
tensioners
idlers
water pump
spark plugs (£24 each)
serpentine belt
serp idler
serp tensioner
oil change
gearbox oil change
coolant flush and change
brake fluid change
full diagnostics scan (with any software updates)

so considering its all genuine alfa parts, and the cam belt requires several specialist tools, its not bad really..

after that one big one, its four more annual £189 services. spread the cost of the biggie out, and its no different to any other exec sports saloon

you can get the belt and tensioner alone done for about £400, but its a gamble..

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« Reply #66 on: November 05, 2009, 08:26:23 pm »
Finally after two wrong orders and two missed deliveries, three weeks later I picked up another two Honda A4 sized paint film protection sheets today

I've tried Motrax, Ventura Shield & another unbranded sheet and they were all pants
The Honda 3M stuff is very thick and has an almost jelly like quality which lets it bend around corners

As you can see the starter motor cops all the debris from the front wheel and even after 700 miles was starting to get really stone chipped

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I cut out some templates for the starter motor and engine casing parts :

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Difficult to see ( which is good )  but I covered all the front facing faces :

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Also put a little patch behind the clutch pipe where it rests on the engine case :

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And also the top of the side stand which was starting to scuff :

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« Reply #67 on: November 05, 2009, 09:59:09 pm »
you wanna get some cotton wool round that bike....

 b4 it gets ruined....
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« Reply #68 on: November 14, 2009, 03:49:10 pm »
Still trying to find some hand guards to keep my very cold sensitive hands warm in winter
So far I've illiminated the following types :

Anything Ducati - Multistrada, Hypomotard etc.

Buell Street fighter.

Triumph Scrambler.

Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha & Suzuki.

Anything for moto cross because they have vents.

Anyone got any other ideas  Dimensions shown below :


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« Reply #69 on: November 14, 2009, 03:58:50 pm »
What about those material ones (mitts? ) you put your hands in, don't look "cool but do work...

Not all the moto-x stuff is vented but nor does it suit the Ducati...

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« Reply #70 on: November 14, 2009, 04:01:40 pm »
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What about those material ones (mitts? ) you put your hands in, don't look "cool but do work...


Agreed do the job but you look like a Dork

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Not all the moto-x stuff is vented


True but most have a clamp which attaches to the handlebar, there is no room on the Monster to fit anything to the handlebars, I've got to rely on using the bolt holes in the lever housing

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« Reply #71 on: November 14, 2009, 04:40:18 pm »
Ask yourself, in all honestly, should you really be riding a piece of Italian exotica in weather that demands hand guards?

when I finally get my lazy butt in gear, get a decent job and buy myself a Ducati, (900ss or 907 i.e. or 851 please) i certainly wont be taking it out in that sort of weather..

-edit- Would have a Bimota if money allowed....

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« Reply #72 on: November 14, 2009, 04:44:38 pm »
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Ask yourself, in all honestly, should you really be riding a piece of Italian exotica in weather that demands hand guards?


Not going to pretend I'll riding it in the ice and snow, however my hands go numb anything below 10c, it would be nice to be able to ride it in dry conditions down to 5c

Just found these but I'm not at all sure

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DUAL-OFFROAD-MOTORCYCLE-MX-HANDGUARDS-BLACK-FOR-ACERBIS_W0QQitemZ140358864859QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item20ae0a4fdb

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« Reply #73 on: November 14, 2009, 04:50:52 pm »
heated grips FTW.

its going to be interesting to see a little experiment about to unfold. Shifty has EXACTLY the same heated grips as me, his seem to be relatively ineffective, yet mine get so hot i have to turn them down above about 5°c - yesterday evening when i got home, i had steam coming off the plams of my gloves!

the only difference we can see is that mine had all the power leads trimmed down to the bare minimum in length - due to the location of the fuse panel on the CBR, the power lead from the switch to the power source is about 6" long. (i use the horn, as its the safest circuit to loose if there is a freak problem that takes it out)

the power wire is comparatively thin to enable it to be added to looms etc without adding too much bulk, so its entirely logical there are pretty serious losses in it.

Shifty is going to shorten all the wires on his, it will be interesting to see if this improves their performance.

I have never experienced cold hands using mine, even in the snow.

I'm such a decent chap, i'll even sell you the spare unused set i bought for the sanya for £10 if you want them.

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« Reply #74 on: November 14, 2009, 04:57:54 pm »
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i'll even sell you the spare unused set i bought for the sanya for £10 if you want them.


I've only ridden one bike in proper winter conditions with heated grips ( a Bandit 1200 ) and whilst burning the palms of my hands with heat, the outside of my fingers were beyond numb

May be I need to try your heated grips with my winter gloves