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Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 07:00:09 pm

OK peeps, how do I go about increasing my horsepower, without losing the mahooooosive amount of torque that I already have?

Discuss....

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Incursus on April 06, 2006, 07:07:40 pm

umm shiny bits,  like wheels,  14 inch ones, with a mopar stud pattern would be good...very quick...(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)


Oh and something shiny sticking out of the hood (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/devill.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 07:11:42 pm

Quoting: Incursus

umm shiny bits, like wheels, 14 inch ones, with a mopar stud pattern would be good...very quick...

Mmm, now where would I find something like that? (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Incursus on April 06, 2006, 07:12:18 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Quoting: Incursus
umm shiny bits, like wheels, 14 inch ones, with a mopar stud pattern would be good...very quick...

Mmm, now where would I find something like that?

Well as it happens.......... (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 07:12:36 pm

Quoting: Incursus

Oh and something shiny sticking out of the hood

Nah,  I want a sleeper(ish)

Might go for a cowl hood, purely for clearance if required, but nothing OTT.

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Incursus on April 06, 2006, 07:16:05 pm

Twin turbos (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Incursus on April 06, 2006, 07:17:07 pm

Theres always (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/nx.gif)

If your engine is setup for it...

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Incursus on April 06, 2006, 07:21:55 pm

You done the little things like Electric fuel pump, water pump, and fan?

Light weight pullys etc.  Ally heads? porting?  Dont think i've ever looked in your engine bay...

I don't no really, i'm just lumping a bigger engine in mine (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/devill.gif)

(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 07:33:59 pm

Quoting: Incursus

Twin turbos

Unlikely.  (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 07:35:49 pm

Quoting: Incursus

Theres always  

If your engine is setup for it...

Maybe - waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay in the future.

1. Engines fairly stock as it is, and won't take it yet.
2. I want to get as far as I can without it, before seeing if I want it
3. Not sure it's worth the time/money for a 99% street motor

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Incursus on April 06, 2006, 07:36:19 pm

If you change your cam you loose your touque? right?

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 07:37:36 pm

Quoting: Incursus

You done the little things like Electric fuel pump, water pump, and fan?

No, No and No.

Considering the fuel pump when I put the new carb on.

Not sure whether to do the water pump or not yet, what sort of gains do you get.

Actively looking for a twin fan from a 3rd/4th gen at the moment. Likey to be next project.

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 07:39:33 pm

Quoting: Incursus

Light weight pullys etc. Ally heads? porting?

Light weight pulleys?  Not even considered that yet.

Ally heads are on the rebuild list - Edelbrock e-tecs, not sure which size yet though.

Porting - no, not sure what I am doing on that, and don't want to mess it up. Will wait until the heads are swapped.

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 07:44:54 pm

Quoting: Incursus

Dont think i've ever looked in your engine bay...

Actually, there's not a lot been done.   AFAIK, still on original bottom end, hopefully not bored out yet.
Cam has been swapped for the most bizarre option, but that is a contributary factor in the torque.  
Has a decent Weiand intake, and a worn out Holly 750 carb(being swapped for a Edelbrock as soon as Andy ships it over)
Heads are original, and it has long tube headers to a dual (2.25inch exhaust)


Overall plan at the moment is as follows:

Rebuild bottom end - bore if required - new pistons with tops to give 10-11 compression.
Etec heads - not sure if going full 'stock' or fitting roller rockers or what yet.
Cam - not sure yet, will see what edelbrock recommend.
Edelbrock ProFlo fuel injection kit.
2.5 inch exhaust with X pipe
Electric fans


Want to be careful that I don't lose the torque in the process.

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 07:46:20 pm

Quoting: Incursus

If you change your cam you loose your touque? right?

Quite probably, although there is probably a lot there already, almost everything is designed to give good torque - engine (400 SBC), cam, long/narrow headers.

Willing to give up a bit if necessary, but not too much.

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Roadkill on April 06, 2006, 10:53:22 pm

Ho's.

Both of ya'. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Headers ? Whatcha got Jamie ?

As for water pump . . . going electric could gain you 5-10bhp.

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 10:56:38 pm

Headers are Hedman Long tube.  Not sure of the pipe diameters yet, but they are probably the narrowest available - best for torque.

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 10:57:29 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Ho's.

Both of ya'.  

Not a lot else to do when no-ones around.  Still trying to catch up with the Pro's.  (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Roadkill on April 06, 2006, 10:57:42 pm

What do you want all that Torque for . . . . . . going hill-climbing ?

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 10:58:06 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

As for water pump . . . going electric could gain you 5-10bhp.

Mmm, might be worth investigating as a pre-major rebuild option.

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Roadkill on April 06, 2006, 10:58:25 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Still trying to catch up with the Pro's

Never happen, Mate . . . never happen. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 10:58:57 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

What do you want all that Torque for . . . . . . going hill-climbing ?

Yeah, why not (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Torque is great for acceleration, which is better for me that top speed.

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 10:59:30 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Never happen, Mate . . . never happen.

True, but you're always there to aim for.

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Roadkill on April 06, 2006, 11:00:47 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

you're always there to aim for

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Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 11:02:53 pm

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Title: POWER!!
Post by: Roadkill on April 06, 2006, 11:05:23 pm

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Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 06, 2006, 11:05:57 pm

(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)  => :dean:   ????

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Incursus on April 07, 2006, 01:53:23 am

(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/postwhore1.gif)s the lot of you us

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Title: POWER!!
Post by: Incursus on April 07, 2006, 01:54:08 am

inducton 4tehwin

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Sammy Lou on April 07, 2006, 02:30:46 am

Dean just takes bits off, not important bits just the heater coil and the air con unit, you know unimportant bits(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Incursus on April 07, 2006, 02:50:18 am

Quoting: Sammy Lou

Dean just takes bits off, not important bits just the heater coil and the air con unit, you know unimportant bits

like exhaust, bits of wiring what he don't know what does, rubber from the tyres... all saves weight (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Sammy Lou on April 07, 2006, 02:52:54 am

Quoting: Incursus

like exhaust, bits of wiring what he don't know what does, rubber from the tyres... all saves weight

yeah stuff like that(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Roadkill on April 07, 2006, 03:16:20 am

(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I don't understand the problem, there ?

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Title: POWER!!
Post by: Titsy on April 07, 2006, 03:58:45 am

Quoting: Roadkill

(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I don't understand the problem, there ?

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(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

There are some seats you don't use, you might try loosing them... (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Roadkill on April 07, 2006, 06:22:19 am

Tempting . . . Believe me. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 07, 2006, 05:16:06 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Tempting . . . Believe me.

Looks like Sam'll be walking  (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Sammy Lou on April 07, 2006, 05:48:00 pm

no he'll just get rid of the back seat, no one uses those!(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: POWER!!
Post by: Roadkill on April 07, 2006, 06:26:33 pm

Yeah . . . . um . . . . Just the back seats . . . . Honest. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)