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Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Titsy on May 22, 2006, 03:27:49 PM
I finally finished fitting my (free from work) Racelogic Traction Control system this weekend, and all I can say is brilliant!!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

It works a treat when the back-end wants to go a wondering... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/drive.gif)

I did some tests at the airfield in my lunch hour to see how it would bear up under some stick in the wet.... It managed to get me from 0 to 60mph a whole 2 seconds faster than running without... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

I'm waiting for a sunny day now to see what difference it makes in the dry.... It won't be quite as vast i'm sure, but will be interesting to see....

BTW Baz, this is the same system that Bob Woodhouse runs on his racing Viper, and that is fitted to all Vipers that get the Woodhouse treatment.... So if you want a demo sometime (on a vastly less powerful car(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)), just holler.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: 55starchief on May 22, 2006, 03:33:17 PM
Did you get any footage of the slow motion burn out?
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Titsy on May 22, 2006, 03:34:16 PM
Nah, Deano wasn't keen....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Roadkill on May 23, 2006, 04:42:03 AM
I'm not having burn-outs - of any description - outside my house.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Titsy on May 23, 2006, 07:05:09 AM
I wouldn't dream of it mate.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif) I think G's description of it being a burnout is a little off the mark though.... It's more of a tyre creep....
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Roadkill on May 23, 2006, 07:06:16 AM
Either way - You can easily film it another time . . . I am curious to see it, mind you.

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Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Sammy Lou on May 23, 2006, 11:12:24 AM
Quoting: Titsy
It works a treat when the back-end wants to go a wondering...  

I did some tests at the airfield in my lunch hour to see how it would bear up under some stick in the wet.... It managed to get me from 0 to 60mph a whole 2 seconds faster than running without...



(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)   Need someting for the Duster....keep me out of thoses pesky ditches (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: FUBAR on May 23, 2006, 11:15:18 AM
Quoting: Sammy Lou
Need someting for the Duster....keep me out of thoses pesky ditches


Has Chris Had a Sex Change??? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Incursus on May 23, 2006, 11:16:39 AM
Quoting: FUBAR
Quoting: Sammy Lou
Need someting for the Duster....keep me out of thoses pesky ditches

Has Chris Had a Sex Change???  


Just noticed (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Bloody wimin, usin me bloody komputer grrrrrr   (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Roadkill on May 23, 2006, 11:35:17 AM
Quoting: Incursus
Bloody wimin, usin me bloody komputer grrrrrr


Hehehe, Mine isn't hooked up yet and you know how Sammy likes to Ho' it on the Forum - She obviously had no choice.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Titsy on May 23, 2006, 02:25:26 PM
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Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Titsy on May 23, 2006, 02:45:17 PM
Quoting: Incursus
Need someting for the Duster....keep me out of thoses pesky ditches


Would cost you £725 if you have ABS.... Although i'm assuming not, so it would be an extra £250 for wheel speed sensors....
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Incursus on May 23, 2006, 03:35:29 PM
Quoting: Titsy
Would cost you £725 if you have ABS.... Although i'm assuming not, so it would be an extra £250 for wheel speed sensors....


Ouch...
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Titsy on May 23, 2006, 03:42:33 PM
Quoting: Incursus
Ouch...

I know.... I would have thought twice about shelling out that mauch too..... But I did some turns on Monday on a very wet airfield that should have seen me spining in loops, and it just didn't let go.... Well, not until I switched it off that is... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/drive.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Roadkill on May 24, 2006, 04:21:58 AM
Quoting: Incursus
Ouch...


Could work out cheaper then another venture into "Ditch territory", though.

I Reckon this time it's gonna cost around £500 to fix + a $hit load more of my time . . . .
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: 55starchief on May 24, 2006, 04:30:41 AM
Quoting: Roadkill

Could work out cheaper then another venture into "Ditch territory", though.



Might be handy with that new motor aswell, its gonna make a lot more power than the 318 he has at the moment
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: VIPER on May 24, 2006, 05:20:53 AM
Bob does some real good kits and only uses the best...Couple of members over here have bought there vipers from him.......
This is his race car.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/02VIPER/woodhousecoupe.jpg)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Pod on May 24, 2006, 05:49:40 AM
Hehe, very subtle. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Titsy on May 24, 2006, 07:08:26 AM
Quoting: VIPER
This is his race car.


Quoting: Pod
Hehe, very subtle.



Where, I can't see it.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Oh, there it is....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Incursus on May 25, 2006, 03:50:31 AM
Quoting: Titsy
Would cost you £725 if you have ABS.... Although i'm assuming not, so it would be an extra £250 for wheel speed sensors....


Was thinking about this a lot last night. As Graeme says there will be a lot of power going through those back wheels and I have no intention of tubbing etc.

I will try the LSD 1st ofc but for 2008 i'll probably add the traction system pretty high up on my list.    

OMG  30th birthday present (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

(i would do for 2007 but i wanna party with you guys in California (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) )
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: 55starchief on May 25, 2006, 03:57:44 AM
Quoting: Incursus

I will try the LSD 1st ofc but for 2008 i'll probably add the traction system pretty high up on my list.



I guess it wouldnt hurt to ask the guy with the cobra what he wanted for his system that he cant use anymore (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Titsy on June 30, 2006, 05:08:27 PM
Treated the 'maro to a little addition to the Racelogic Traction Control........
Enter one Digital Adjuster! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Left
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RPM meter
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Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Roadkill on July 01, 2006, 06:28:17 AM
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/roll.gif)

You won't be using that last one, though, eh ?
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: FUBAR on July 01, 2006, 09:08:17 AM
Inspector Gadget is on the Loose!

Looks good Titsy, I assume the individual wheel speeds are for checking that the Passenger isn't going faster than you... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Pod on July 02, 2006, 06:01:29 PM
How much?
And would it work on my car?
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Incursus on July 03, 2006, 03:55:48 AM
Quoting: Pod
How much?


you dont want to know, he quoted me around £1300 for the duster (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

probably still do it though....one day....
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Titsy on July 03, 2006, 07:31:43 AM
Quoting: Pod
How much?


How many cylinders?
Do you have ABS?
Is it injection?
EDIT: is it a manual or automatic trans?

Quoting: Pod
And would it work on my car?

Yes!
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Pod on July 03, 2006, 03:10:13 PM
Quoting: Titsy
How many cylinders?
Do you have ABS?
Is it injection?
EDIT: is it a manual or automatic trans?


8 cylinders (unlike some.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif))
no ABS
Fuel injection
Manual gearbox

It's not a realistic option for quite a while yet, but definitely a possibility in future. I like the idea from both a safety and speed point of view.
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2006, 07:13:41 PM
Ditto - Quote me please. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

V8,
No ABS,
Carb,
Manual.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Titsy on July 03, 2006, 08:15:08 PM
Pod,

£975 + VAT with a normal adjuster or,
£1100 + VAT with a digital adjust like the one I fitted

Roadkill,

£1135 + VAT with a normal adjuster or,
£1260 + VAT with a digital adjust like the one I fitted

Don't ask how, but I could easily get full-throttle-shift thrown in for free (you don't lift your foot off the throttle, the traction engages a rev limiter when you hit the clutch allowing for faster gear changes....)

Obviously I'd be trying to get you the best discount on these prices I can, but if you three (Chris, Phil, & Dean), and anyone else is serious about fitting traction, then it might be worth trying to all purchase at the same time.... That we'd have more liverage to get a better discount on the price.... Bulk buy, bulk discount..... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Maybe setting up MKB as a dealer for a one off purchase to get dealer discounts....
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Roadkill on July 04, 2006, 04:15:19 AM
Quoting: Titsy
Roadkill,

£1135 + VAT with a normal adjuster or,
£1260 + VAT with a digital adjust like the one I fitted


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Quoting: Titsy
I could easily get full-throttle-shift thrown in for free


(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Pod on July 04, 2006, 07:09:08 AM
Is that for parts only or does it include installation?
If I had the money I'd get it today. I don't though, and have no idea if/when I'll have that much available.
Thanks very much for the quote though - gives me something to aim for. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Titsy's Traction
Post by: Titsy on July 04, 2006, 07:14:34 AM
I'd fit it for you, that would cost you a beer or two.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)