1976 dodge aspen sport coupe ex race car . I will need some help as this is my first re build of a yank. I am going to turn it in to a pro street drag car
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What do you think ?
its missing the motor mate (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)
Hope you have a budget in mind
It doesn't look bad Mate , what's the bodywork like ?
Has some potential (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
looks ok ,
hope it was cheeeeep enough!(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
yep ur gonnaneed some help(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
yer body is ok and yep its going to cost a lot . but i have good friends like you guys so i should be ok (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
oh it cost less than £300 (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
has a lot of potential, but dont like the colour much! it would look great in midnight blue!
Quoting: Sammy Lou
has a lot of potential, but dont like the colour much! it would look great in
midnight blue!
Satin Black (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
With some bling wheels. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
SATIN BLACK !(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Squeeze a Big block in there and jobs a goodun (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Quoting: incursus
Squeeze a Big block in there and jobs a goodun
Have just the guy to supply that (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/devil.gif)
yer I dont like the colour much . I may have it painted satin black as thats what i have done to all my cars ( my demo car and my race car )
Quoting: 55starchief
Have just the guy to supply that
how much ?
Quoting: ozzy
Quoting: 55starchief
Have just the guy to supply that
how much ?
Depends what you want and how much power you want
well i was thinking about a chevy small block 350 as there is a lot of bits about for them. Also I want it to do 13 secs at the pod as I am doing constant 15s at the minit with my currant race car ( MK2 escort 1700 cross flow . 10" rear slicks ). I dont know much about yank motors so much help needed.
this gonna be a pure race motor or a street strip?
ballpark figure for a 350 with tunnel ram and dual carbs with a new block from my guy would be around $5k that would be around 400hp
you can email him at the following address
www.outlawracingengines.comremember to tell him your in the uk so he can up the comp ratio
Quoting: 55starchief
this gonna be a pure race motor or a street strip?
street / strip. with just 1 carb 300ish bhp
i would decide on a budget for the motor and drop him an email and see what he comes up with mate
350 SBC in a dodge?...
will it fit ok ie can i get mounts etc ?
also i want to have a motor i can progress with as this is my first proper race car i want to start slow and work my way up
this is what was in it . 1968 mopar 383 ci. 6.4 v8 with 727 auto box
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Stick with Mopar tbh.
Have you tried that site???
Quoting: Jamieg285
Quoting: 55starchief
you can email him at the following address
www.outlawracingengines.com Have you tried that site???
sorry ozzy thats the website thats not launched yet i meant to copy and paste the email address which is
outlawracingengines1@verizon.net
Quoting: incursus
Stick with Mopar tbh.
Agreed.
Don't waste a Chevy in a Mopar. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
Don't waste a Chevy in a Mopar
Dont contaminate a Mopar with a chevy (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: ozzy
this is what was in it . 1968 mopar 383 ci. 6.4 v8 with 727 auto box
Whats wrong with the engine then?
Quoting: incursus
Whats wrong with the engine then?
the guy I got the car of has a buyer for it.
So you think i should go big block mopar?
I will havea look at that site now (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: ozzy
So you think i should go big block mopar?
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Only cos the cars a mopar I don't know much about the performance differences between chevy and mopar...
Parts are probably cheaper and more available for the chevy block..
Go with MoPar - but no need for a big block - not unless you've got £££££'s to spend and want a drag car.
A 383ci would be the maximum you'd need in that.
I would wait and see what price andy comes up with for chris's motor and trans, then if you wanted to up the spec you could do
Well the car will be a drag car with a mot. I am geting the back end tubed for the pro street look. I want to run 13s then work to get it faster as I get use to it . So I want a motor for around £2000 that I can progress with
what sort of numbers are you aiming for?
although their outright potential is limited, you can generaly run 10's with a big block (preferably 500 inch) caddyu engine..
although they are not powerful as stock, it doesn't take much to wake them up, and they are unlikely to have had a hard life, so the bottom end generaly can be untouched - just a port job, intake manifold, hoofing great carb, cam and a set of headers - should come in well under £2000
hot rod did an article a while ago, where they bui9lt a pro street chevette, that ran 10's for $1000 with a caddy motor..
Quoting: philoldsmobile
hot rod did an article a while ago, where they bui9lt a pro street chevette, that ran 10's for $1000 with a caddy motor..
provided you don't want to turn corners you're fine!
thats pretty much a given with any pro street mate - they dont do corners, and thats an understatment..
even stock big block muscle cars drive pretty badly, i drove a big block 68 camaro a while ago in NY, and to be honest, it handled like a drunken pig on a skateboard..
Always been tempted to uprate my Caddy to a 500cid - the parts are available.
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so my project id possible . thats good news (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
all projects are possible mate, just need to keep your eyes on the prize!
well said (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
and find a few quid too!(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
I am working on thet 2 art. I have 33 items on ebay at the minit lol
just got quote from hustler race cars to pro street my car and it will cost around £4329.87 .
here is the email
Hi and thanks for the e-mail.
The costs for Pro Streeting your car are as follows.
HRC 4-link rear chassis kit including mandrel bent frame rails, dropped X member, aluminium adj shocks & springs, 4-link kit with rod ends, brackets, bolts, adjusters,etc = £890.00
Labour charges are as follows:-
Cut out old floor and trim - approx £300
assemble and fit subframe £390
fit 8 point roll cage and weld in £700
fit wheel tubs - £275
fit rear tinwork - from £500
narrow your axle case and install 4-link brackets - £175
fit front part of cage 4 point £200
Optional extras
remove OEM axle brackets, strip and blast clean axle - £160
fit your fuel cell = £60
fit NOS bottle mounts = £30
fit battery tray = £30.00
to reduce the cost of this exercise you may be able to do some of the work yourself such as stripping the axle or cutting out the back of your car yourself. Call me for more information on 01933 312735
Regards Ray
Fek !
That ain't bad though . . . . Will they throw in a motor for free if you ask them nicely - then yer sorted !
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Quoting: Roadkill
Fek !
That ain't bad though
well i reckon with my new found mig skills i could tub the maro for you mate (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rocker.gif)
Roll cage will be first on the list, if anything, TBH.
I've seen how they squish if rolled ! (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
so you think that is a good price then for what i am getting
Quoting: ozzy
so you think that is a good price then for what i am getting
If it's a pro-job and all certified, then yeah, looks pretty good.
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: ozzy
so you think that is a good price then for what i am getting
If it's a pro-job and all certified, then yeah, looks pretty good.
agreed if its a pro job, you cant put a price on saftey mate
just got to get the $$$$$$$ saved up then
Quoting: ozzy
just got to get the $$$$$$$ saved up then
welcome to the world of yanks and race cars mate, they will keep you poor
Quoting: Roadkill
Will they throw in a motor for free if you ask them nicely - then yer sorted !
er no i dont think they will. maybe if i give them some (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/OrigGlazed.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/OrigGlazed.gif) ?
383 is considered a big block, as it's the same as a 413, 426 wedge, and 440 block. You can make some serious power with one, but they are expensive to build. Even here in the states. I would keep a Mopar in it, but that's just me. Maybe a SB like a 340 or 360 CID. In reality it depends on your budget, availability of parts, and what you want to do. A nice mild 350 SBC would fit nicely with what you want to do. AS far as tubbing, unless you just WANT the pro street look it may actually slow you down some at the 13 second level. I've seen cars go well into the 10s on slightly moddified stock suspension, and 10.5 inch tires.
13 sec would be nice but if it wants to go faster then it can . I dont want it to stay at 13s. As I get faster so can the car. I could build it to do 9s but then i would just get bord and want to get rid of it. So this way I get to learn as I progress
Why not then start with just engine mods . . . . then, at a later date - upgrade to a pro-stock set-up . . . ?
i could but i have the cash at the minit so if its done it done if you know what i mean. plus if i have a good car to start with i can play with the motor more
Quoting: ozzy
13 sec would be nice but if it wants to go faster then it can . I dont want it to stay at 13s. As I get faster so can the car. I could build it to do 9s but then i would just get bord and want to get rid of it. So this way I get to learn as I progress
Gotcha. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif) So you're wanting you and the car to, in a sense, progress together in skill level. That's cool.
Quoting: ozzy
just got quote from hustler race cars to pro street my car and it will cost around £4329.87 .
That's not bad for all that (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Goatman
Gotcha. So you're wanting you and the car to, in a sense, progress together in skill level. That's cool.
yes thats it (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)