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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 18, 2005, 05:33:36 pm

O.K, Then.

Several options with my car . . .

1)

To get a 350cid built in the states. No supercharger. Quite a bit of cash.

2)

To get a 350cid built in the states. With Supercharger. Mega money.
It will need new tranny.

3)

Rebuild the 305cid as stock. Cheap and reliable.

4)

Rebuild the 305cid as a stroker (340cid) and bore it 60 thou over.
New heads. (I'd like a high-rise intake . . . . )
Second cheapest option.

5)

Then there's also the Laughing gas option . . .

. . . . .

Your thoughts Gentlemen.

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Post by: 55starchief on October 18, 2005, 05:34:34 pm

Stroke her baby you know it makes sense

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Post by: Jamieg285 on October 18, 2005, 05:37:43 pm

4 is definitely the best option listed, but what about getting a cheap 350 over here and rebuilding that?

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Post by: 55starchief on October 18, 2005, 05:38:55 pm

4 is definitely the best option listed, but what about getting a cheap 350 over here and rebuilding that?

The stroker kit runs around $700 mate cheaper than buying a junked 350

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Post by: Roadkill on October 18, 2005, 05:48:16 pm

Thing is, I WILL eventually want a 350cid, so anything I get for the 305cid I would want to be able to transfer across.

eg. Manifold, Carb(S) . . . . . . Headers ???

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Post by: Roadkill on October 18, 2005, 05:49:55 pm

It's important to note :

The more money I chuck at the Maro, the less I've got for the Caddy.

And the Caddy should be my priority when it comes to projects.

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Post by: philoldsmobile on October 19, 2005, 03:47:42 am

crate engine with rebuilt tranny.

normaly the cheapest long run option, as you can upgrade things like cams and heads later knowing you aren't going to expose a worn weak link in the engine that up to now has been undetected.

a crate egnie with 250 - 300BHP should go like a rocket in the camaro, the goodwrench 350 is a good start, and of course, built by chevy themselves, so you know its right.

there are dodgy crate engines out there...

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Post by: Roadkill on October 19, 2005, 07:46:51 am

Sorry Phil.

Stock block is NOT an option !!!

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Post by: 55starchief on October 19, 2005, 03:43:49 pm

Has phil'O' got shares in goocwrench? if you go to a good builder you can get a better build than a GM and a good builder will offer a waranty as well.

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Post by: philoldsmobile on October 20, 2005, 03:49:55 am

best to start with a known quantity...

dean, why not a stock block?

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Post by: Roadkill on October 20, 2005, 04:52:27 am

Because it's mildly modded already . . . stock would be spending money going backwards !!!

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Post by: philoldsmobile on October 20, 2005, 06:30:53 am

no, starting wit a new goodwrench 350 would be moving forwards, new block (your block is stock anyway, just old and worn) they have a LOT more power than the lump in yours at the moment..

they also respond very well to a mild cam and ally heads, well over 330BHP just by bolting on those things at a later date.

one of the guys in the US is running exactly that combo, through a TH350 auto,and is running mid 13's

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Post by: Roadkill on October 20, 2005, 04:45:23 pm

I Don't want to keep coming back to the Camaro . . . I wanna do it . . . then be able to be happy with it for a while instead of thinking - what next ?

Don't forget the Cadillac should be taking my time and money - NOT the Camaro.

(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on October 20, 2005, 04:51:38 pm

Don't forget the Cadillac should be taking my time and money - NOT the Camaro.

It's got the space already (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on October 25, 2005, 04:58:57 pm

If yer interested m8...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-92-NEW-CAMARO-Z28-CHROME-CENTER-CAPS_W0QQitemZ8009902757QQcategoryZ43961QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

thats just a tad more than I paid for my ones (which didn't come with the retaining clips) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 25, 2005, 05:04:34 pm

I'm watching them . . . . Ta.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 30, 2005, 04:51:43 pm

Got the Caps (as you know)

Now got an LSD (which you probably know) - Just hope it actually fits. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 30, 2005, 04:54:00 pm

Also I'm Gonna bin the old heater (blower) motor soon as I Very much doubt it's gonna go back.

And the heater core which (Hopefully) Andy's bringing with him will probably end up redundant.

Anyone (with a Third Gen) want to make a reasonable offer ?? - For the core, that its.

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Post by: 55starchief on November 30, 2005, 04:54:34 pm

Well get that fekin humber cut up and we can make a start (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/devill.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 30, 2005, 04:56:21 pm

I Know, I know.

I'll stress AGAIN that the Caddy takes priority, though.

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Post by: 55starchief on November 30, 2005, 04:58:17 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll stress AGAIN that the Caddy takes priority, though.

Well get that air ride ordered man ;) i have a diff waiting to come across and possibly my NOS kit (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/devill.gif) if the price is do able

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Post by: Roadkill on November 30, 2005, 05:00:41 pm

As soon as Xmas is out of the way the Air ride is the priority.

I've worked my arse-off getting the Overdraft paid off and the credit card lowered . . .

Time to spend some ££££ me thinks . . . (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/actcool.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on November 30, 2005, 05:21:32 pm

you know if we are gonna drop that rear axle out we could drop in a set of these (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/devill.gif)

(http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/2473008.gif)

not bad at $75 each

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Post by: Roadkill on November 30, 2005, 09:27:06 pm

Yeeeaaaaaaaaaaaah, But.

That also means rear-ending it, doesn't it ?

Or are they baby tubs ???

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Post by: 55starchief on November 30, 2005, 10:58:24 pm

Nah no need to shorten the axle just back space te rims like they do on porsche

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Post by: Roadkill on December 02, 2005, 05:51:40 pm

O.K, on the list.

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Post by: Roadkill on December 02, 2005, 05:53:43 pm

Also I've made a decision on the Lump.

350ci Definately, High rise, Dual Carb to mate up with my existing tranny but also mate-able to a similar 5/6 speed.

The Supercharger option can come at a later date. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on December 02, 2005, 05:54:51 pm

Oh, 4 Bolts mains. Obviously.

Stroker - If it's gonna help me.

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Post by: 55starchief on December 02, 2005, 05:55:21 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

O.K, on the list.

(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/devill.gif) you know it makes sence (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif) just drop the axle and fuel tank, prep the axle, drop in the tubs and a fuel cell (need to work out how much space and i can get one tig'd up for you at a very good price)

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Post by: Roadkill on December 02, 2005, 05:55:51 pm

Then also the option for Laughing Gas DEFINATELY !!!

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Post by: 55starchief on December 02, 2005, 05:57:33 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Then also the option for Laughing Gas DEFINATELY !!!

go for a big ass bottle lol, im so tempted to order mine andy's getting me a price (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/devill.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on December 02, 2005, 06:01:53 pm

Is a Stroker 350/383ci gonna help me go faster ?

(In a straight line.)

I thought Strokers increase top end torque/pick up at higher speeds . . .

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Post by: 55starchief on December 02, 2005, 06:31:23 pm

Stroker engines do indeed produce more torque, i will ask some more questions this afternoon when the USA wakes up mate

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Post by: Roadkill on December 06, 2005, 04:19:33 pm

Although with the recent goings on (and cost) Re the Chav'scort I would like to start planning the Camaro out a bit more thoroughly.

If a 383cid is best then fine but the thing will be 70% road use (ie. starting and stopping, starting and stopping . . ) and only about 30% Drag use.

Maybe when the day comes to add a supercharger it'll be 100% Drag but 'til then . . .

(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on December 06, 2005, 05:29:27 pm

A 383 stroker should be plenty streetable mate, and providing your sensable (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif) with the gas pedal should be reasonable economical

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Post by: Roadkill on December 06, 2005, 06:09:56 pm

Yeah, but what's more suitable ? (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on December 06, 2005, 06:14:11 pm

well a 4cyl diesel would but that aint gonna happen now is it (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/roll.gif)

on long runs your gonna get a reasonable fuel return, i would guess high teens low 20's

If your going with a twin carb i would use a progressive linkage that way the more the pedals pushed the second carb would come into play, so driving aoround town only the first stages of the carb would be open, but when you floor it all 8 venturi will be sucking gas

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Post by: Roadkill on December 06, 2005, 06:17:46 pm

Yup.

What I Mean is if a 383ci is best for top-end torgue, surely that's best for circuit racing where you are slowing slightly, then nailing back up to top speed.
A 350ci Would rev higher getting you to top speed quicker ???????

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Post by: Jamieg285 on December 06, 2005, 06:32:38 pm

The torque comes from the longer stroke, where that comes in will depend on the cam.

Shorter stroke does mean better revving and quicker pick up, but you have to balance it against the loss of torque. The heavier the car, the more torque you want.

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Post by: 55starchief on December 06, 2005, 06:33:53 pm

most drag motors are strokers as its torque thats more important than HP

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Post by: Roadkill on December 06, 2005, 06:34:00 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

The heavier the car, the more torque you want

The heavier the car the more I need to remove ? (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on December 07, 2005, 05:51:21 am

Quoting: Roadkill

The heavier the car the more I need to remove ?

Indeed, underlay and sound pads door cards back seat lol

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Post by: Roadkill on December 07, 2005, 07:28:50 am

Maybe just more torque, then . . . . . .

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Post by: 55starchief on December 07, 2005, 10:43:46 pm

well went to Knight Racing this morning, very friendly people. Dino costs are £400 for the day bring your own fuel

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Post by: Roadkill on December 07, 2005, 10:50:57 pm

(and Car) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on December 07, 2005, 10:52:03 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

(and Car)

No its not a chassis dyno

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Post by: Roadkill on December 07, 2005, 10:53:14 pm

Well. I Thought it was funny. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on December 07, 2005, 10:54:03 pm

Rear Wheel-HP Gives a truer reading though, surely ???

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Post by: 55starchief on December 07, 2005, 10:55:11 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Rear Wheel-HP Gives a truer reading though, surely ???

not sure, alot of people prefer to tune and take power from the flywheel

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Post by: Roadkill on December 07, 2005, 10:58:18 pm

I Suppose the difference is you can say your engine is X-BHP or your car is X-BHP . . . . .

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Post by: 55starchief on December 14, 2005, 06:48:36 am

spoke to a mate of mine in Tx and his buddy has a 383 stroker 550hp and 200hp shot of gas. Its fast as hell and took a lightning the other night at 140mph made it look stationary

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Post by: Roadkill on December 14, 2005, 07:07:49 am

O.K . . . I'm sold. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/OrigGlazed.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on December 14, 2005, 07:18:08 am

Quoting: Roadkill

O.K . . . I'm sold.

Need to talk to andy then mate, dont think that T5 will last long though, might need to go for a tremec or a muncie 5 speed in the short term until you can get the richmond. The T56 isnt nuch stronger than the T5

*Edit*

Tremec make both the T5 and T56 (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/sad.gif) and muncie only make a 4 speed

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Post by: Roadkill on December 14, 2005, 04:42:51 pm

I Know . . . . That's why I said I'd go straight to a Richmond when the T5 failed . . . . . again.

(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/grin.gif):

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Post by: 55starchief on December 15, 2005, 08:54:26 pm

Ok,

Andy says build a 400 or a 434 as the difference in cost would be like $700 for the 383.

Also a Tremec TK600 box is what you need

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Post by: Roadkill on December 15, 2005, 08:56:56 pm

$700 IS $700, though. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Nothing's easy . . . . (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 13, 2006, 07:30:50 pm

She's calling again . . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Blown.jpg)

(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on January 13, 2006, 08:07:53 pm

oh yeah, sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

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Post by: FUBAR on January 13, 2006, 08:10:42 pm

(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Niiiice!

(http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

That would be such a sweet view from the drivers seat too (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 13, 2006, 08:15:02 pm

Well, the plan was to get the Cadillac all-legit first . . . Nearly there. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on January 13, 2006, 08:18:15 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Well, the plan was to get the Cadillac all-legit first . . . Nearly there

Do i hear a call to andy (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/devil.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 13, 2006, 08:29:33 pm

Err still lacking in the funding department. (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

And no, It CAN NOT go on the credit card.

I'm working on it though . . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on January 13, 2006, 10:08:01 pm

My monthly bills go up £130 ish this month so I've gotta be careful . . . (http://www.aaci-beds.co.uk/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 18, 2006, 02:35:19 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

My monthly bills go up £130 ish this month so I've gotta be careful . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

And that was before the Mortgage hiked up another £95 !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Anyway.

The Camaro has just recieved new:

Wiper blades, Chrome Valve covers, 14x3 Air filter, Fire extinguisher, Hood struts, Adjustable water neck.

The wires in the engine bay have been tidied further.

It's got a set of 15" A.R.E Torq-thrust II's waiting to go on.
Four new Cobra's are gonna cost £280.

New suspension - Springs, shocks, bushes - are gonna cost £450.

On top of this She'll be getting new rear bump stops, a new over-flow tank.

Next job after this is fitted is to give the Water system a flush and refresh.

Then the Gearbox . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 18, 2006, 02:44:33 pm

JWR are getting back to me regarding prices for Overflow tank and Bump stops . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Lusty Lass on April 18, 2006, 03:42:34 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Don't forget the Cadillac should be taking my time and money - NOT the Camaro.

Shouldn't that be Sammy-Lou? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/stir.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 18, 2006, 03:44:26 pm

Quoting: Lusty Lass

Shouldn't that be Sammy-Lou?

Who ?

Oh, Her . . . . Um, yeah, sure. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: HardRockCamaro on April 18, 2006, 07:15:31 pm

I'd go with a 350 built in the USA.
If you can afford it a 383 built in the USA as it will produce power where you normally use the car in the street. 383's are all about low and mid range torque, not high revs (being a stroker they don't like to rev).

Both options will require an uprated tranny.

If you can't afford a 383 right now then go with the 350 and add gas later.
You're hardly going to be disappointed in a spangly 350 anyways.

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Post by: 55starchief on April 18, 2006, 07:25:04 pm

Quoting: HardRockCamaro

Yup have got just the guy to do this, infact i think he quoted prices earlier in this thread. From memory a new 350 block was the same price as a new 400 so might as well go for the 400

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Post by: HardRockCamaro on April 18, 2006, 07:34:53 pm

Absolutely!

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Post by: philoldsmobile on April 18, 2006, 07:45:12 pm

i reckon a 350 ight be a little more friendly in a light car, my mate PK in the states runs 10's on a 350 in a street driven non tubbed car..

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Post by: Roadkill on April 19, 2006, 08:40:23 am

The new engine will be last on the list (well, nearly).

I'm looking at going blown so should be interesting . . . . .

This is my role-model . . . even correct colour !!!

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Blown.jpg)

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Post by: 55starchief on April 19, 2006, 08:41:34 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm looking at going blown so should be interesting . . . . .

arnt we all mate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/roll.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 19, 2006, 08:54:42 am

"going" DOES NOT = "getting".

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: EDGE on April 19, 2006, 08:58:00 am

you complete redneck...

AWESOME

EDGE

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Post by: Roadkill on June 26, 2006, 02:04:19 pm

Looking into prices for the suspension parts closer to home . . . . I just want to get her done and happily drivable out of the way so I can worry about other projects . . .

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Post by: philoldsmobile on June 26, 2006, 02:15:38 pm

wasn't that red Z28 on the cover of hotrod a few years back when they did a feature on emissions legal peformance?

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Post by: Roadkill on June 26, 2006, 02:34:06 pm

Quoting: philoldsmobile

wasn't that red Z28 on the cover of hotrod a few years back when they did a feature on emissions legal peformance?

Not sure . . .

JWR has come back with a price of £275+vat for EiBach springs . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

I'll call US Auto, too . . .

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Post by: 55starchief on July 26, 2006, 09:55:48 am

Just been reading about 4 hole spacers on another sit. Seems that they can give you more bottom end power than the carb sat on an open plenum

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Post by: Roadkill on July 26, 2006, 10:03:50 am

What ?

The 1" Carb spacer blocks ?

Don't think I've got the Hood clearance.

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Post by: 55starchief on July 26, 2006, 10:05:17 am

Quoting: Roadkill

The 1" Carb spacer blocks ?

More like a 2" job minimum the guy who posted was using a 4"

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Post by: FUBAR on July 26, 2006, 10:08:38 am

Doesn't it just have a similar effect to the Tunnel Ram style Tall Intakes?

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Post by: 55starchief on July 26, 2006, 10:09:49 am

Quoting: FUBAR

Doesn't it just have a similar effect to the Tunnel Ram style Tall Intakes?

No mate, it has something to do with the 4 holes acting as venturi and the mixture being more controled as it enters the plenum

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Post by: FUBAR on July 26, 2006, 10:11:22 am

Quoting: 55starchief

No mate, it has something to do with the 4 holes acting as venturi and the mixture being more controled as it enters the plenum

Bit like a Dyson... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 26, 2006, 10:13:28 am

Still, No clearance . . . . And I'm not cutting a hood just for that.

Worth bearing in mind, though . . . . Maybe check clearance on the Caddy . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on July 26, 2006, 10:14:38 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Worth bearing in mind, though . . . . Maybe check clearance on the Caddy . . .

No point the manifold you have for the caddy is a tri power with 2 holes not an open plenum

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Post by: Roadkill on July 26, 2006, 10:22:52 am

Good point . . . Still needs adapter/spacer plates, though.

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Post by: Roadkill on March 20, 2007, 10:40:27 am

It's been a while . . . .

UPDATE

I've now decided to keep the Camaro. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

The jobs what need doing are as follows :

Suspension

She's too high and handles like a pig.
To correct this I've now got a set of Eibach Sportlines (cheers Craig) and have just ordered a set of Tokico Illumina shocks.

Next I replace the Panhard with an adjustable one and fit a Strut brace but Shock/springs first.

Gearbox

Yep, surprisingly it's still Fooked ! - Have recently spoke to a guy recommended by Hauser and it's looking like £450 will do the job.
Providing the physical damage isn't too bad.

LSD

Already brought. Needs fitting.
Spoke to Hauser . . . Will probably book it in in July.

Exhaust

When she's "legal" again I'm going to get a custom dual system fitted.
Simple.

Niggly Bits

My camaro's interior is actually pretty darn good.
It needs some trim pieces fitting (which I already have) and needs the headlining doing (again !).
No biggie, and no major outlay - just little things I wanna get done.

New wheels / tyres

This'll be a next year job for sure - and depends on where my new suspension leaves me !
The plan is to get more rubber on the back. I've done my measurements and researched rims and tyres and reckon I can get at least 40mm more width on the back.

Further Chassis/Suspension

IF this time next year I'm still in a position to keep her I'll be looking at fully poly-bushing her.
I'll also replace all the track rod ends/ idler arm / etc . . as they're looking a bit tired.
There's a couple of additional bolt-ons that I'll consider but this depends on how she fairs with the new springs and shocks/struts.

Engine

Mine's Fooked.
But she'll probably last another smoke-filled year.
The plan then will be to (LATE next year) to get a 350ci sorted.
Nothing insane . . . just reliable and tough.

Then the Gearbox will explode - but that's another day . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 20, 2007, 05:16:40 pm

Just spoke to somebody local re fabbing me an exhaust - (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 22, 2007, 04:13:23 pm

She's booked in for an MoT tomorrow morning . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

However even my brother isn't 100% sure the exhaust situation will receive a "pass".

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Fingers crossed.

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Post by: ianjpage on March 22, 2007, 05:43:52 pm

well lets hope so mate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif)

Just got the Safari through MOT so that be driven more now (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on March 23, 2007, 12:46:54 pm

Did she pass?

You still pulling the box this weekend?

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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2007, 12:47:12 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

She's booked in for an MoT tomorrow morning . . . .

Well she kinda failed but passed.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Needless to say it's best I said no more.

A personal service for £35. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2007, 12:47:51 pm

Quoting: Titsy

You still pulling the box this weekend?

Weather permitting. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on March 23, 2007, 12:48:49 pm

lol good to hear it "Passed" tjhen (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on March 23, 2007, 12:52:02 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Weather permitting.

It's not looking to good so I was planing on working on my 'maro in Buckingham... If it's not a case of to many cooks do you want me and Beaner to help you drop the box quickly then we can get off to Buckingham... And maybe you can have a crack at some painting for me in return... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2007, 12:55:29 pm

Quoting: Titsy

If it's not a case of to many cooks do you want me and Beaner to help you drop the box quickly then we can get off to Buckingham... And maybe you can have a crack at some painting for me in return...

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Let me have a think . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2007, 12:56:18 pm

Quoting: Titsy

And maybe you can have a crack at some painting for me in return...

Gotta be back earlyish as PhilO's coming over to pick up some of that ally from work . . . .

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Post by: Titsy on March 23, 2007, 01:09:00 pm

What time?

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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2007, 01:11:16 pm

Quoting: Titsy

What time?

Didn't agree a time - just said to him to "leave it as late as you can so I've got as much daylight as possible"

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Post by: Titsy on March 23, 2007, 01:19:49 pm

Fair enough... What time you starting on the box?

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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2007, 02:08:13 pm

Quoting: Titsy

What time you starting on the box?

Weather permitting - when I get back from the Gym . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on March 23, 2007, 03:16:49 pm

Quoting: Titsy

What time you starting on the box?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2007, 04:24:54 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

(Weather permitting) 11am - latest.

Will attempt to go to the Gym earlier but we're looking after Zara so not sure when / if we can leave her.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2007, 04:25:20 pm

What do you need spraying ?

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Post by: Titsy on March 23, 2007, 04:38:55 pm

Fog lights and brackets...

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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2007, 05:00:35 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Fog lights and brackets...

You've primered them, right ?

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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2007, 05:01:35 pm

If so, leave them with me and I'll do them over the weekend . . . save me going to Buckingham just to spray stuff.

I can easily do them between other jobs . . .

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Post by: Titsy on March 23, 2007, 05:10:46 pm

Have primed the brackets, but have to finish rubbing the lights down... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 27, 2007, 01:32:46 pm

Been looking at Lakewood Adjustable Panhard Arms . . . And Rear Control Arms . . . . . And also shortened Torque Arms.

An Energy Suspension Poly-Bush kit has been observed, too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on March 27, 2007, 03:21:59 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Rear Control Arms

I'd said about those LCA Relocation brackets that Spohn (and others) do that lowers the mounting on the rear axle to account for your lowered suspension... keeps everything aligned as its supposed to be which is ment to help... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) they're not that expensive either.

http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1290

Or... you could have some made... after all its only bent steel...

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Post by: Roadkill on March 27, 2007, 03:25:34 pm

Thanks for the link. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I'm getting carried away with the thing, now.

RESIST ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: CJ-IROCZ on March 27, 2007, 06:56:52 pm

for someone that was selling the car 12 months ago , your not doing bad (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I'm really struggling to keep my card in my wallet when i see all this spending going on. I've already spent a fortune this year and i've got another little'un due in Aug so i must resist spending (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on March 27, 2007, 10:07:09 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm getting carried away with the thing, now.

RESIST !

Quoting: Spohn

NON-LOWERED vehicles will also see a dramatic increase in traction by lowering the rearward angle of the LCA with our relocation brackets. The lower mount holes are placed in the arc pattern of the OEM length LCA. Therefore allowing a non-lowered F-Body to drop the rear LCA angle and NOT require a longer than OEM LCA. All geometry is correctly maintained. The anti-squat performance is providing most users with a full .10 or better 60' reduction!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)...

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 28, 2007, 08:26:57 pm

A line must be drawn somewhere . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Quoting: Fin170703

for someone that was selling the car 12 months ago , your not doing bad

I know. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I enjoy driving her, I really do.

And TBH, selling her in the condition she was in mechanically would've been silly.

. . . .

. . . . . . . .

Or that's my excuse. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 21, 2007, 01:47:00 pm

O.K - What do peeps think of these - bearing in mind I'm fitting Eibachs and Tokico shocks . . . :

Lakewood LCA's
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_744075_-1_10063

Lakewood Adj Panhard
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_744079_-1_11319

Jegster Prop Loop (it's cheap and I'd feel happier with it)
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_757228_-1_10061

Jegster Torque Arm (this one doesn't rely on the tranny mount)
(It's the top one)
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_744013_-1_11317

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Post by: Rocky on April 21, 2007, 05:32:04 pm

Lakewood are ok, when it comes to f-bodies price does indicate who makes the best parts, TBH LCAs and Panhard bars dont have to be over the top. Just make sure they are tig welded and not computer welded. Only thing i would never recommend is poly gearbox mounts as i have seen them crack bell housings by not having enough give on a car with hard acceleration.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 21, 2007, 05:47:41 pm

Quoting: Rocky

Just make sure they are tig welded and not computer welded. Only thing i would never recommend is poly gearbox mounts as i have seen them crack bell housings by not having enough give on a car with hard acceleration.

That's certainly not on the list . . . I'll be polybushing the front end but have no plans on doing the engine/tranny mounts.

I've had a few lakewood parts and know them to be reasonable quality (hence I automatically went for them).
The welding's good and the overall (powder-coat) finish is alright - not perfect, but hell, it's going underneath a car !

Thanks for the input (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I've still not found a strut brace, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: CJ-IROCZ on April 22, 2007, 07:51:07 am

Oopps I've got a poly gearbox mount.

It was recommended to me by a leading transmission specialist in america

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Post by: Rocky on April 22, 2007, 09:11:33 am

If you poly bush one thing you should do everything as they will wear your normal bushes out twice as quick. so a front end pack would be fine etc. The gearbox mounts are recommended by the manufacturers and performance places in the States but speak to the guys that have actually run them on their cars.

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Post by: CJ-IROCZ on April 22, 2007, 10:56:05 am

Thants interesting.

what would you recommend changing then Rocky ? you mention a front end pack ?

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Post by: Roadkill on April 22, 2007, 05:50:06 pm

The theory with mine is the bits listed cover the rear of the car so an energy suspension kit would do the rest.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 24, 2007, 02:28:44 pm

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Post by: Roadkill on April 24, 2007, 04:02:57 pm

You gonna be ordering your bits from Jegs, then Chris. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 27, 2007, 09:00:11 am

Shocks / struts arrived yesterday . . . . Gonna open them and have a look tonight.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 27, 2007, 04:05:27 pm

Just found this site . . . . http://www.gtfiberglass.com/OURSTUFF.html

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I'm liking their modified high-rise spoiler . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: sixpack2639 on April 27, 2007, 04:11:52 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Shocks / struts arrived yesterday

Glad they made it without issue!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 27, 2007, 11:16:00 pm

Shiny things !

Well - not quite - yep, they're in one piece.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Can't wait to fit.

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Post by: ianjpage on April 29, 2007, 07:10:40 pm

they did look all nice n shiny on the dining room floor (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 30, 2007, 09:38:51 am

Uber productive day on Saturday !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/headbang.gif)

Dropped the axle off the car, stripped the brakes, panhard, LCA, and brake pipes off.

Removed the (nearly new) rear springs and shocks and cleaned them up as I'm sticking them on ebay, too.

The axle's in the Chav'scort waiting to go to either Hauser or Websters to have the LSD fitted . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

She's looking very sorry for herself at the moment but this is the beginning of something major and I'm feeling pretty good about it. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Piccy's to follow . . . . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on April 30, 2007, 10:05:27 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 30, 2007, 10:34:22 am

Just spoke to W.R.E - will be dropping it down there tomorrow or wednesday . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/devil.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on April 30, 2007, 10:44:59 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 30, 2007, 02:32:23 pm

Link dump :

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10003_762272_-1_30166

A Twin Turbo Z28 ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/turbo.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/turbo.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 30, 2007, 04:05:12 pm

Gonna need new slave cylinder too as mine are well fooked. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on April 30, 2007, 05:17:25 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

A Twin Turbo Z28 ?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 30, 2007, 10:04:24 pm

Pictures as promised :

As I say - looking very sorry for herself . . . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Camaro010.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Camaro012.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Camaro013.jpg)

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Post by: FUBAR on April 30, 2007, 10:55:02 pm

Nothing like a 3rd gen with 1/2 its wheels missing to keep the neighbours happy hehe (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) Make sure it annoys Councillor Carruthers LOL (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Were the bits & tools scattered about for effect or did they just land that way... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 01, 2007, 08:24:30 am

Quoting: FUBAR

Were the bits & tools scattered about for effect or did they just land that way...

They just went that way.

I had to drag the axle out with Panhard/LCA/Torque arm still attached.

I dragged it over the other side of the front garden to start stripping it down, needing space to roll it over to get to the various nuts/bolts.
(Hence the blow torch and large ball pein hammer !)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 01, 2007, 01:54:07 pm

Mister Admin . . .

Can you edit out the "- Stroker ?" part of this topic's title, please ?

This thread will be getting more of an airing now, and the plan is certainly not to stroke her . . .

Ta. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on May 01, 2007, 02:08:23 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Can you edit out the "- Stroker ?" part of this topic's title, please ?

ai will do

Quoting: Roadkill

the plan is certainly not to stroke her . . .

<engage bad humour>

LOL so what are you doing instead of stroking then....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

<disengage>

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Post by: Roadkill on May 01, 2007, 02:14:43 pm

Probably Ramming her (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shag.gif) . . . . (forced induction of sorts) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Ta. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on May 01, 2007, 03:24:36 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 03, 2007, 09:41:29 am

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 03, 2007, 09:42:40 am

Total $1,650 . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on May 03, 2007, 10:29:25 am

I have a very similar list m8, although most of it I probably won't get for the IROC anymore because its not really what I want from the car.

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Post by: Roadkill on May 03, 2007, 10:32:44 am

The plan for the Camaro is rear-end this year, front end next year . . . Some body work in between. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Very soon I'll disappear under the thing with a wire brush . . . and some por15 . . .

Mmm, The coal-miner look. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on May 03, 2007, 10:36:50 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Very soon I'll disappear under the thing with a wire brush . . . and some por15 . . .

Mmm, The coal-miner look.

Yup been there done that LOL, just there was no need at all for a wire brush (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 03, 2007, 10:52:18 am

Quoting: FUBAR

just there was no need at all for a wire brush

In fairness mine's very good . . . . the brush is to dislodge the trail of soot from the exhaust.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on May 03, 2007, 10:55:59 am

True, I know when we had the engine out at your work you were impressed then at how it was underneath.

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Post by: Roadkill on May 03, 2007, 11:09:41 am

Just a bit of rust on parts of the floor pan but nothing around the trans tunnel or axle recess or rear 'pan.

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Post by: Roadkill on May 03, 2007, 10:31:12 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

MOOG Steering rebuild:
http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1374
$395
BROUGHT

(Fabricated) Spherical Upper Strut Mounts:
http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1542
$250
BROUGHT

Strut Mount Retainers:
http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1494
$25
BROUGHT

A-Arm Bolts:
http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1507
£12.95
BROUGHT

Tubular A-Arms (with spring boxes):
http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1496
$395

Tubular K-Member:
http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1606
$445

K-Member Braces:
http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1629
$65
BROUGHT

Wonder Bar (non adj):
http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1391
$60
BROUGHT

Bolt Kit:
http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1551
$4.95
BROUGHT

Also brought the Spohn Front and Rear Sway Bars, Adjustable Panhard and Lower C.A's and relocation kit.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Also the Jegs shortened Torque Arm and welded prop loop.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Holy MotherF*cker. That's serious . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Still. I've had the car years . . . It's about time I got my ar$e in gear !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on May 03, 2007, 10:39:02 pm

Bloody 'ell!!

M8, when you get this lot can I help out installing it all? as some of the less extreme items may find their way onto the IROC eventually, would be good to have done the jobs before.

+ It would be useful to know anyway.

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Post by: Roadkill on May 03, 2007, 10:46:56 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

M8, when you get this lot can I help out installing it all? as some of the less extreme items may find their way onto the IROC eventually, would be good to have done the jobs before.

+ It would be useful to know anyway.

No problem . . . . . . I'm not doing the front until I get that tubular K-Member and A-Arm set, though . . . .

I'm on a mission, now ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/headbang.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 04, 2007, 11:14:55 am

Quoting: Roadkill

until I get that tubular K-Member and A-Arm set

Yep. Spent a large portion of the morning staring at those items . . . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) but (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on May 04, 2007, 12:26:10 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Yep. Spent a large portion of the morning staring at those items . . . . . .

then staring at the bank balance & going (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 04, 2007, 12:46:48 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

then staring at the bank balance & going

Yep !

Thing is those K-Members take up to 10 weeks to fabricate !! . . . add delivery and shipping on and even If I odered them now I wouldn't see them until winter . . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 06, 2007, 12:33:38 pm

Update :

Dropped the fuel tank out yesterday . . . . along with over 3 gallons of go-go juice. (went in the chav'scort).

Broke a couple of bolts (actually they were both broke but I just finished them off).
Drilled out the old and re-tapped ready for the new.

Also note hole in floor pan over the fuel tank . . . .

Yes, I know PhilO will be shuddering . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif) - Anyway this was rough and jagged . . now it's been re-cut, squared up and primed . . . It will recieve a inspection hatch sometime soon.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Odd012.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Odd013.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 06, 2007, 12:36:20 pm

Next job will be to finish removing the fuel lines to give the underneath a thorough clean and a scrub-down.

Then it's POR15 time . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

The tank will be treated too . . . although it had a very small leak so this will obviously affects its future somewhat . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on May 06, 2007, 07:24:07 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Then it's POR15 time . . .

The only other thing I did on mine was to use Grey-Stripe seam sealent (Halfords) on ALL panel edges & joins, especially where they are spot welded. would be wise to do that before slapping on the POR-15

Will be a piece of piss to do though, there's literally nothing in the way at all (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 07, 2007, 08:53:09 am

Quoting: FUBAR

The only other thing I did on mine was to use Grey-Stripe seam sealent (Halfords) on ALL panel edges & joins

Good idea.

Does POR15 require a primer ?

Or just slap it on bare metal, too ?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 08, 2007, 10:50:12 am

Just sifting through the debris that is last weeks spending . . . .

$1,600+ spent at Spohn.

$530 spent at Jegs.

Another $100+ from Rock Auto to come . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Better get that K-Member ordered before I get cold feet ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Fieldy on May 08, 2007, 10:58:17 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 08, 2007, 11:13:13 am

Quoting: Fieldy

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Tell me about it . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on May 08, 2007, 11:52:22 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Good idea.

Does POR15 require a primer ?

Or just slap it on bare metal, too ?

Well, as its emerged I only used the Rust preventative paint and not the actual underseal (that will be getting done this summer then!) I just wiped down the floorpan to remove all the dirt & dust first.
I did use some of the blue metal-ready stuff in the odd place where there was very mild surface rust starting but I found that the paint seemed to like that less than just clean painted metal like the rest of the car was.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 08, 2007, 11:58:25 am

Okkies . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I'll be making an order, then . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 08, 2007, 12:54:02 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/800/809/809-12498827.jpg)

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_754816_-1_10763

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on May 08, 2007, 03:16:27 pm

Big block in a 3rd gen is a bad idea...

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 08, 2007, 03:23:36 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

Big block in a 3rd gen is a bad idea...

That's PhilO talking ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

I'm not actually serious (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif) 383ci's the limit I reckon . . . . and the last on the list right now !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 08, 2007, 03:37:07 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

383ci's the limit I reckon . . . .

6.3L for the win!!!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/drive.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 08, 2007, 03:37:57 pm

Plus a couple of (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/turbo.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/turbo.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 08, 2007, 04:18:36 pm

I'm eyeing up a Barry Grant blow-through carb in time. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/turbo.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 09, 2007, 08:46:43 am

Mini Update.

Fuel sender Inspection panel now cut and fitted.

(1mm Pre-Galv.) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/lala004.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/lala003.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 09, 2007, 08:53:11 am

Something dawned on me last night . . . . I'm doing all this and my engine's still fooked.

Don't get me wrong she still pulls like a train but seriously smokes hard, too.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I'm actually very focused, car-wise, at the moment - probably the first time in years.

I'm gonna continue with the Camaro until she's finished - ie. at a stage where she's not requiring work for the forseeable future and continue to buy stuff for the Caddy when I've brought the last few bits for the 'Maro.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

So an engine rebuild's in order, then.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Well, it's gotta come out to fit the new K-Member and stuff . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 09, 2007, 02:03:16 pm

http://www.gtfiberglass.com/OURSTUFF.html

I'm thinking 3" Cowl Hood and IROC style spoiler . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 09, 2007, 03:03:36 pm

Hmm.

Further our conversations re. that "mystery bar" above the Panhard Rod . . . . see this page . . . just above mid way down.

http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F3-suspension.htm

It's meant for increasing room under there but as mine is fooked from removing it . . . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on May 09, 2007, 04:35:25 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Further our conversations re. that "mystery bar" above the Panhard Rod . . . . see this page . . . just above mid way down.

Hmm interesting that would do the job (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on May 09, 2007, 04:38:12 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm thinking 3" Cowl Hood and IROC style spoiler . . .

you don't want to go too big with a cowl cos otherwise 3rd gens have a habit of looking a bit like a ski ramp... although with the earlier squarer nose you might be better off in that respect...

I've also seen those high-rise spoilers with a 3rd brake light built into them, I can't remember where though, might've been flebay US

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 09, 2007, 10:35:23 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

Hmm interesting that would do the job

Not cheap though . . . . the one I pulled off of mine is well fooked, mind you . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2007, 10:06:51 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

Well. I've done it . . . finally lost the plot.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

I've ordered the Spohn Tubular K-Member and A-Arms . . . . . . . . .

I was sensible, though . . . I resisted going Chrome-Moly and saved $350 !!!

. . . . .

. . . . .

But instead I kinda spent it on Performance front rotors and pads . . . .

Which I do kinda need as may rotors are pitted and buckled . . . .

. . . . .

. . . . .

Still . . . I feel kinda (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2007, 10:08:05 am

Err . . . with shipping $1,350 . . . . .

I'm off to BMR, now, to make sure I'm committed. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

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Post by: Fieldy on May 11, 2007, 10:20:52 am

(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5058/ruseriousbj9.jpg)

I want to see this motor one day mate!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2007, 10:36:09 am

Quoting: Fieldy

I want to see this motor one day mate!

Here you go :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Camaro013.jpg)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/roll.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2007, 10:38:26 am

Quoting: Roadkill

+$1,350 - Spohn

+$372 - BMR

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/russian_roulette.gif)

I dare say W.R.E will be getting in touch soon, too . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Fieldy on May 11, 2007, 10:39:31 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on May 11, 2007, 10:52:50 am

lol spending lots but should definately be worth it when it all doen and dusted then!!

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Post by: Fieldy on May 11, 2007, 10:57:43 am

Quoting: ianjpage

lol spending lots but should definately be worth it when it all doen and dusted then!!

From the pics and not seeing it in the flesh, that body work sure does look sweet (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2007, 11:03:14 am

She's fairly straight. No major dents . . . not many minor ones for that matter.

Some minor rust, nothing structural . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on May 11, 2007, 11:56:24 am

Fair doos (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Lemme know when you want a hand, (beer not required (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif))

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2007, 12:21:46 pm

On a related note : I'm having parts made for a Engine Removal Gantry.

Basically a heavy-duty goal-post which will span the width of the car and remove the engine and box via a hoist (which is far more controllable then hydraulic ram).

Once clear the gantry can be rolled back to clear the car.

This not only solves the problem with cars with long noses (third gens) but can be left, safely for long periods of time without risk of damage or the load dropping.

Plus as it spans the car it means it's legs don't clash with cross-members on low sitting cars.

AND it can be unbolted and stored flat-ish . . . . Maximum load will be around 600kg . . or more if I go for heavier wheels.

Yes, say it . . . I'm a genius. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on May 11, 2007, 03:47:39 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

On a related note : I'm having parts made for a Engine Removal Gantry.

Sounds cool. I might be interested in one myself.

Keep us informed...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2007, 10:28:35 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Sounds cool. I might be interested in one myself.

Believe me - It's not gonna be repeatable.

Material and labour costs alone will be over £500. That's unpainted without the hoist or beam clamp or wheels !!!

That said when it's done it will be borrowable. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on May 13, 2007, 01:49:02 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

not many minor ones for that matter

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/whistle.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 13, 2007, 02:00:28 pm

What did you do Chris?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on May 13, 2007, 02:04:27 pm

Apparently there a small dent the the door after "someone", who was slightly tipsy at the time opened Ryans car door on to it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 13, 2007, 02:13:13 pm

Quoting: Incursus

Apparently there a small dent the the door after "someone", who was slightly tipsy at the time opened Ryans car door on to it

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on May 13, 2007, 02:21:37 pm

Quoting: Incursus

opened Ryans car door on to it

Good job it wasn't the other way around or there might have been a hanging (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 13, 2007, 03:06:59 pm

It was Ryan's old Camaro . . Chris was pi$$ed and opened the door onto mine causing the worst dent my car's got . . . and right on the crease, to.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

His reaction was to giggle . . .

I'm glad I'm more patient these days . . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 15, 2007, 08:57:50 am

Got the call from Webster Racing yesterday - My Axle is now fully LSD'ed up and shot-blasted ready for paint.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funky.gif)

I'll pick it up this week.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 15, 2007, 08:58:24 am

Oh, all - in for £282 (INC vat).

Me a happy man. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on May 15, 2007, 09:16:59 am

sweet that aint too bad at all (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 15, 2007, 09:18:50 am

Nope, can't wait to pick it up. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on May 15, 2007, 09:20:32 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Got the call from Webster Racing yesterday - My Axle is now fully LSD'ed up and shot-blasted ready for paint.

I'll pick it up this week.

Ah so it was yours.

I got a call from WRE yesterday telling me my axle was done and ready for pick up. It confused the hell of them when I told them they'd already done mine and it was done still attached to the car!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 15, 2007, 10:19:17 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

He sounded kinda confused when he called me . . . Kinda : "Err . . . Mr Witham ?? . . . We have an axle ready for collection ??? . . . "

When I said "yep that's right" he sounded genuinely relieved - Wonder how many people he'd called . . ?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 17, 2007, 08:39:49 am

The gearbox is now ready for collection too . . . . £625 +vat.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Still (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/drive.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 17, 2007, 09:30:28 am

POR15 should be being posted monday. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Looks like I'll have to busy myself doing something else this w/e. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on May 17, 2007, 09:43:51 am

Quoting: Roadkill

The gearbox is now ready for collection too . . . . £625 +vat.

Still

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) cant wait to see it back on the raod!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 17, 2007, 09:51:09 am

Quoting: ianjpage

cant wait to see it back on the raod!!

EVERYTHING has been uprated/rebuilt/replaced/reconned except (currently) the engine.

Once set up she should be the best handling third gen in the country ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Theoretically, of course. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on May 17, 2007, 10:10:26 am

Quoting: Roadkill

On a related note : I'm having parts made for a Engine Removal Gantry

you my friend need a forklift (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/craigthejones/ba7ca7a0.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on May 17, 2007, 10:11:34 am

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/craigthejones/5a70548b.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 17, 2007, 10:36:39 am

Eeek ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

I hold a lifting and slinging cert. - That's naughty.

Although a true (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif) at heart ((http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)) - given the choice I would always opt for the properly engineered option.

(especially as it'll be (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)*free*(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif))

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on May 17, 2007, 01:35:40 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I hold a lifting and slinging cert. - That's naughty.

Yep (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) worked a treat though. the ability to tilt / slide the engine whilst lifting was ideal.

I also weld by brail , use pillar drills without safety stops , climb on conveyor sytems 20 mtrs in the air. all naughty but gets the job done (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 17, 2007, 02:39:49 pm

Quoting: CJ-IROCZ

climb on conveyor sytems 20 mtrs in the air. all naughty but gets the job done

I hear you.
I'm a project manager by profession so believe me, I well know you've got to turn the other way on site sometimes in order to get things done, now.

Health and saftey gone mad.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I blame Martyn. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: CJ-IROCZ on May 17, 2007, 03:46:30 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Dont get me wrong i'm not wreckless and i'm aware that i do sometimes take calculated risks.

My job entails installing conveyor systems / belts in quarrys and processing plants , which have some of the hottest health and safety polices in all industrys,. Permits are needed for all aspects of the job . working without guards, hot work , none isolated work ect and to be fair i wouldn't do alot of the work without one. I am a little naugty at times though (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) I've got a bad habit of not using harnesses as often as i should

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Post by: Roadkill on May 17, 2007, 03:54:33 pm

Quoting: CJ-IROCZ

I've got a bad habit of not using harnesses as often as i should

Harness rules are daft, though . . . Wearing a harness at 1.2m won't help you when the lanyard is 1.6m but still they insist on wearing one. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on May 17, 2007, 04:44:01 pm

yep you got it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 18, 2007, 06:20:03 pm

Picked up the axle from WRE. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

All shot-blasted and ready for fresh paint.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on May 18, 2007, 07:55:42 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I blame Martyn.

Hey I'm just trying to keep you alive !

Work pays the bills but it ain't worth dying for or even going to the Hospital for (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Harness ? Agreed 1.2 m is bollocks, but fall from 2.5m and your'll hit the floor at 17.5 mph, try running at a concrete wall and see if you can reach 17.5mph and if it hurts (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

As humans we are really poor at asking the question " What if ? "
All we see are the advantages, getting the job done and doing what our employer wants !

So ask yourself the question next time " What if I fall - What if the chain breaks ? What if the equipment starts ?

Like I said " It's only a job ! "

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Post by: CJ-IROCZ on May 18, 2007, 08:07:49 pm

Yep your right. My job certainly aint worth dying for

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 18, 2007, 11:03:03 pm

Quoting: F Body

Hey I'm just trying to keep you alive !

I'm only joking, Mate. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

It does get silly at times, though . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on May 19, 2007, 05:36:46 pm

I've had some good jobs before, but not one I was will to die for.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: HardRockCamaro on May 19, 2007, 05:43:06 pm

Pah, it only goes wrong if you ain't thought it through (and that's just evolution in action)...

This is the way to get the job done:

(http://www.boreme.com/media/yr2005/double-forklift.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on May 19, 2007, 05:49:50 pm

Bloody ell!! Those fekkers must have a death wish!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on May 19, 2007, 05:54:52 pm

And the Darwin award goes to.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 22, 2007, 08:46:27 am

Picked up the axle from WRE - £285.

Picked up the Gearbox from Transmission Comp yesterday - £785. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

Problem is they decided it would look better if they sprayed it . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Let's just say that their gearbox rebuilding had better be superior to their painting skills.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif)

most if it had flaked off on the journey home in the back seat.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I want it blasted and I'll either respray it PROPERLY or just leave it as cast.

I realise I'm getting a little anal over this now . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/slap.gif)

Dammit - to much time around Martyn . . and PhilO . . and Chris . . . and . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/devil.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 22, 2007, 09:54:00 pm

One fresh rebuilt and blasted gearbox.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Odd010.jpg)

Gearbox with a couple of coats of primer.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Odd011-1.jpg)

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Post by: Titsy on May 22, 2007, 10:09:51 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Let's just say that their gearbox rebuilding had better be superior to their painting skills.

Was that WIM?

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Post by: Roadkill on May 22, 2007, 10:14:24 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Was that WIM?

Are you daft ? - I took it to a Borg Warner specialist . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 22, 2007, 10:17:23 pm

Hmmmm could have sworn you said you'd taken it to WIM, which would have explained the (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on May 23, 2007, 04:18:36 am

You gonna paint it hot pink?(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 23, 2007, 07:21:09 am

Quoting: Titsy

Hmmmm could have sworn you said you'd taken it to WIM, which would have explained the (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif)

No, I originally spoke to Hauser re the axle (eventually went to WRE) and they recommended a company for the 'box who do work for Aston Martin to name one.

They have stacks of T5's and T56's in their workshop - some for GM - some not.

Ready for final paint (I'll leave it a while to harden fully first, though)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Gbox1.jpg)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 23, 2007, 07:21:52 am

Quoting: sixpack2639

You gonna paint it hot pink?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono.gif)

Red. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on May 23, 2007, 07:37:17 am

looking good mate!!

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Post by: FUBAR on May 23, 2007, 09:50:50 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Glad everything seems to be going to plan (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 23, 2007, 04:11:12 pm

The prop is also now in primer (did that early this morning).

I've also added one other little bit to the Spohn order. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on May 23, 2007, 04:16:14 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I've also added one other little bit to the Spohn order.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 23, 2007, 04:18:36 pm

Quoting: sixpack2639

Just kidding.

Ahh, that reminds me . . . It's an ally diff support/cover.

It was just sitting there begging to be brought . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Well, I've brought the rest of the catalogue - why not I thought ?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on May 23, 2007, 04:20:47 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Well, I've brought the rest of the catalogue - why not I thought ?

I can believe that!!!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 23, 2007, 04:29:34 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

She'll be special when she's done.

BTW - Found out at the weekend that my Z28 was the "H.O" option car - Having the High output 4BBL 5.0L pushing 190Bhp, 5 Speed (only) as standard and 3.73 rear ratios.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Kinda makes it a little more special - having that "H" in the Code.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 24, 2007, 01:40:17 pm

Grinded (ground ?) off some broken brackets from the axle last night.

Smooth. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

When removing the old slave cylinders they deposited brake fluid all over the case.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

So I took it to that place and got it re-blasted. £10.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Looks better this time too . . the last time there were still claggy bits in the corners and joins . . but they're all gone, now.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 24, 2007, 02:47:47 pm

Just reviewing the costs over the last 8 weeks . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

Spohn $3,155 (Suspension, chassis and brake parts),
BMR $372 (Chassis and Misc. parts),
Jegs $530 (Suspension, brake, fuel and misc. parts),
Advance $85 (Brake cables),
Ebay $ (cant remember $30 ? - new slave cylinders),
Inline tube $200 (S/S brake lines),
JDWerks $434 (Adj. Tokicos)
(Craig) £170 (Eibachs),
W.R.E £294 (LSD fitting, axle re-furb and oil),
Transmission Comp £735 (Gearbox rebuild),
Shot Blasting, paint, misc £50.

$4,806 + £1,249 = (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

And that's not including all the "little bits" brought before 8 weeks ago !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/russian_roulette.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

Oh, and add about $1000 to ship all that lot, as well, at least. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on May 24, 2007, 02:56:46 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Pod on May 24, 2007, 03:05:04 pm

Time to put the rent up then. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 24, 2007, 03:19:45 pm

Quoting: Pod

Time to put the rent up then

Yeah, I'm too kind to Sammy . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on May 24, 2007, 04:17:55 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on May 24, 2007, 07:49:56 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

$4,806 + £1,249 =

And that's not including all the "little bits" brought before 8 weeks ago !

That's some exspense just on the transmission/brakes, I wouldn't be wanting to put it back on the burn pad after that (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on May 24, 2007, 07:52:44 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

$4,806 + £1,249 =

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 24, 2007, 08:27:58 pm

Quoting: Pod

Time to put the rent up then.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/slap.gif) Dont give him ideas...

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Post by: Roadkill on May 24, 2007, 10:08:27 pm

Tonights activities . . .

Axle after second blasting. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Axle.jpg)

Axle after some "smoothing" (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Axle2.jpg)

Axle after first coat of primer (it got another before it got too dark) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Axle4.jpg)

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Post by: FUBAR on May 24, 2007, 11:20:46 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Fair doos

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on May 25, 2007, 04:58:45 am

Panhard Bar was delivered today (yesterday).(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Parts from Advance scheduled for delivery tomorrow (today).(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Fieldy on May 25, 2007, 08:23:26 am

alot of work, can't wait to see the outcome.

quite funny when in your classic american article the Z28 was supposed to be A DD aloowing you to fix up the caddy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 25, 2007, 11:38:21 am

Quoting: Fieldy

quite funny when in your classic american article the Z28 was supposed to be A DD aloowing you to fix up the caddy

Yeah. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Still . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif) Keep it to yourself but there's a BIG purchase lined up for the Caddy VERY soon (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 25, 2007, 11:42:12 am

This mornings' activities . . . before it started drizzling ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Ax.jpg)

Ready for paint !

Note the Diff cover hasn't been primered as It's being replaced.

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Post by: ianjpage on May 25, 2007, 11:43:35 am

lookiong good matey!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 25, 2007, 11:50:15 am

I also went to Watford to pick up the replacement fuel tank for her.

(Cheers, Rocky (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cheers.gif))

Haven't had time to primer that,yet.

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Post by: Rocky on May 25, 2007, 07:58:44 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

(Cheers, Rocky

Good to meet you finally, what did you prime the axel with? looks good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 25, 2007, 08:36:59 pm

U-Pol #5

Not cheap but is the t!ts for improving the smoothness of rough casts.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on May 26, 2007, 04:26:00 am

Advance order has arrived!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 26, 2007, 08:09:33 am

Just Spohn, then - still not dispatched, yet. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on May 26, 2007, 03:04:36 pm

I'll get what I have repacked in the next couple of days and start sending it over then.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 26, 2007, 11:49:08 pm

Quoting: sixpack2639

I'll get what I have repacked in the next couple of days and start sending it over then.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Cheers, Mate.

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Post by: sixpack2639 on May 28, 2007, 04:09:46 am

My pleasure.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 29, 2007, 08:12:46 pm

Thought you might be interested in this RK: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THIRD-GEN-CAMARO-SBC-TWIN-TURBO_W0QQitemZ140121396080QQihZ004QQcategoryZ72205QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I kinda smell a scam, but it be worth would trying to catch him out by asking if he'd take cash on collection if you were interested...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on May 29, 2007, 08:17:50 pm

Quoting: Titsy

I kinda smell a scam,

Registered 23rd May in Southgate London (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Offer him a cheque for £10,000 and he can refund the diffference (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 29, 2007, 10:41:04 pm

Quoting: Titsy

I kinda smell a scam, but it be worth would trying to catch him out by asking if he'd take cash on collection if you were interested...

Have asked a question or two. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Absolute bargain if it's genuine and in good nick.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 31, 2007, 02:53:14 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Have asked a question or two.

No response and no bids. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Anyway . . .

Gonna be prepping and primering the "New" fuel tank this weekend - ready for a coat of POR15 before being replaced.

Still no news regarding the Spohn shipment . . . was told it should be this week . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on May 31, 2007, 03:51:54 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

No response and no bids.

Even the picture looks too neat & tidy, my moneys on scammer (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 31, 2007, 04:28:26 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Still no news regarding the Spohn shipment . . .

Has just been shipped !

6 Boxes !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) - Not including the K-Member.

*****

Processed Date: 05/31/2007
Scheduled Delivery Date: 06/04/2007
Document #: 705040
Your PO #: --
Total Number of Packages: 6

Package Information:
Pkg 1: Weight: --
Tracking #: 1Z17X2620349834733
Pkg 2: Weight: --
Tracking #: 1Z17X2620349918741
Pkg 3: Weight: --
Tracking #: 1Z17X2620349925957
Pkg 4: Weight: --
Tracking #: 1Z17X2620351080365
Pkg 5: Weight: --
Tracking #: 1Z17X2620350285977
Pkg 6: Weight: --
Tracking #: 1Z17X2620349726789

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Post by: Roadkill on June 01, 2007, 02:06:21 pm

Just spoke to John Woolfe.

They can supply a pre '86, 4-Bolt, 8.5:1 C/R, 350ci long block SBC for £1639 inc. vat.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Not a great C/R but if I went forced induction it would be ideal . . . . . Plus they have one in stock . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 01, 2007, 02:57:08 pm

Just got the email invoice for the First shipment of Spohn stuff . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Worked out at £1=$1.974 on my Credit Card which ain't too bad.

Can't wait to get it and start putting her back together before the weather breaks . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 01, 2007, 03:30:43 pm

(http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/900/933/933-4GP218-030.jpg)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 03, 2007, 03:57:46 pm

That looks SWEET!!!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on June 03, 2007, 09:21:58 pm

kewl so bits are on the way then....cannot wait to see the maro back in action..

new engine, hmmmmm.........does look nice

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 04, 2007, 05:12:20 am

Quoting: ianjpage

kewl so bits are on the way then

Should be with me tomorrow, well, later today actually.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on June 04, 2007, 08:11:01 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 04, 2007, 02:42:55 pm

Tracking says ON TRUCK FOR DELIVERY .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 04, 2007, 03:27:23 pm

Quoting: sixpack2639

Tracking says ON TRUCK FOR DELIVERY

Yeah, but it's UPS, so . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/russian_roulette.gif)

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 04, 2007, 03:35:54 pm

TBH, i've always gotten good service from UPS here.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I don't know why their so f'd up over there.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Maybe they need their own smilie.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/flag.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 04, 2007, 03:40:08 pm

Dunno.

If I hadn't've missed the first delivery it'd all have been fine.

That said when I miss a Royal Mail delivery I don't get any hassle - certainly not like this - I just pop a mile down the road and pick the thing up.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 05, 2007, 12:00:24 am

7 boxes arrived from Spohn!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Everything is repacked and ready for shipping to you!!!!!!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Here's the breakdown.....

4 packages @ 60lbs
2 packages @ 50lbs
1 package @ 25lbs

I figure you want the cheapest method which is now Airmail Parcel Post International 6-10 day shipping.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

They have done away with the slow boat method.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

I'll PM you with the cost breakdown. Get yer checkbook warmed up!!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/devil.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 05, 2007, 12:49:43 am

Oh, BTW, I'll include my bill in the PM. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 05, 2007, 08:26:17 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/party.gif)

Just the K-member to follow . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 05, 2007, 08:42:24 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) You mean there's more!?!?!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Just kidding!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 05, 2007, 08:57:18 am

Quoting: sixpack2639

You mean there's more!?!?!

That should follow in 4-6 weeks. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 05, 2007, 09:05:18 am

AAh, so I have time to recover.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 05, 2007, 09:09:59 am

Yeah.

You may be getting *ahem* something else soon.

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It's for the Caddy and It ain't cheap . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)

But we'll have to see how the next three weeks go, first.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 05, 2007, 09:11:57 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 05, 2007, 08:53:20 pm

2 boxes and an envelope on the way!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on June 05, 2007, 09:07:12 pm

ya gotta love CPS......(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on June 05, 2007, 09:07:53 pm

CARLS POSTAL SERVICE............(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on June 05, 2007, 09:12:38 pm

CPS for the win....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 05, 2007, 09:21:43 pm

Never heard of it.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I do have CRS though.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(Can't Remember Sh!t)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on June 05, 2007, 09:41:21 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 07, 2007, 09:07:04 am

Quoting: Titsy

Thought you might be interested in this RK: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THIRD-GEN-CAMARO-SBC-TWIN-TURBO_W0QQitemZ140121396080QQihZ004QQcategoryZ72205QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's been relisted . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 07, 2007, 03:16:25 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It's been relisted . . . . .

So, not a scam then?????

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on June 07, 2007, 06:24:35 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It's been relisted . . . . .

Did he answer your questions?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 07, 2007, 10:42:09 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Did he answer your questions?

No - could be a n00b thing, though . . . . ?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 20, 2007, 10:11:54 am

Hmm.

Seriously considering flogging my tired 305ci and getting one of these . . .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150132923419&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

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Seriously. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 20, 2007, 10:12:32 am

. . . Probably be lighter then the 305ci, too . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 20, 2007, 10:26:43 am

Or, slightly cheaper, there's http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/383-502-HP-439-Torque-100-COMPLETE-Chevy-Crate-Engine_W0QQitemZ190122430268QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item190122430268

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on June 20, 2007, 10:37:04 am

Okay which Bank did you rob?

cos next time I want in (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 20, 2007, 11:12:18 am

Quoting: Incursus

Okay which Bank did you rob?

I've got space on the credit card . . . . It's calling me . . . . CAAALLLLLLLIIIIIINNG MMEEEEE . . . . .

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 20, 2007, 11:34:03 am

USPS won't take that. It's just a bit over their 70lb limit.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on June 20, 2007, 11:37:38 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I've got space on the credit card

What's that then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

I thought the idea was you always paid the minimum (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 21, 2007, 10:40:25 pm

CARL ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Probably gonna order that Steering box.

I've checked against mine and it looks the same.

For £50/$100 it seems sensible - I've got all new steering everywhere else and my 'box is definately worn.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Rob on June 21, 2007, 11:12:35 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

my 'box is definately worn

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on June 22, 2007, 05:26:51 am

Quoting: Roadkill

and my 'box is definately worn.

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Quoting: Roadkill

For £50/$100 it seems sensible

That's dam cheap (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on June 22, 2007, 10:47:17 am

Quoting: Roadkill

my 'box is definately worn

Sorry abart yer luck fella!!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 22, 2007, 01:46:14 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

and

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on June 27, 2007, 12:06:03 pm

This is on the Jegs July 4th Specials list:

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product2_10001_10002_761056_-1

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on June 27, 2007, 04:12:17 pm

If you can get a decent price for shipping, that could be a cracking deal for a stroker

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 27, 2007, 04:32:30 pm

Yeah, I noticed that . . . no money, now, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on June 27, 2007, 06:47:24 pm

Quoting: Titsy

This is on the Jegs July 4th Specials list:

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product2_10001_10002_761056_-1

383ci SB-Chevy 405HP / 440TQ (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on June 27, 2007, 09:25:38 pm

How cool is this:

(http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/dak-vfd3-82c-cam_w.jpg)

Shame it's $625... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on June 27, 2007, 09:28:24 pm

Quoting: Titsy

How cool is this:

PhilO was eyeing up that very same panel type when he had a third Gen (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on June 27, 2007, 09:33:22 pm

Totally retro..

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 27, 2007, 10:48:23 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Shame it's $625...

I could justify that if only to get rid of that F*Cking crappy 85mph speedo !

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on June 28, 2007, 05:42:57 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I could justify that if only to get rid of that F*Cking crappy 85mph speedo !

At least you can tell the court my speedo said I was only doing 85mph (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 28, 2007, 04:26:09 pm

Quoting: F Body

At least you can tell the court my speedo said I was only doing 85mph

Nah, it starts going back down the other side . . decreasing in Kph . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on June 28, 2007, 04:29:42 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I could justify that if only to get rid of that F*Cking crappy 85mph speedo

I've got an aftermarket edelbrock one if you want it ?

Its in my old camaro

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 29, 2007, 01:30:55 pm

Quoting: CJ-IROCZ

I've got an aftermarket edelbrock one if you want it ?

Its in my old camaro

I'll bear that in mind, Mate - at the moment I'm concentrating on getting the stuff i've already got back on the car . . .

Which reminds me - should be receiving 4 boxes of Spohn stuff early next week.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on June 29, 2007, 05:50:25 pm

No worries pal, let me know

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on June 30, 2007, 10:20:21 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 04, 2007, 01:10:43 pm

This is really starting to grate, now.

Been waiting for some parcels from the states . . . Checking their (lack of) progress daily . . . .
USPS say they left the U.S a week ago . . . Parcel Force are saying as far as they're concerned they're NOT in the U.K.

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I just want my parts. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

I can't do anything without them . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on July 04, 2007, 02:23:44 pm

They're prolly stuck in customs.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 05, 2007, 11:25:21 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/woohoo.gif)

About F*cking time !

All four packages are now showing as arrived in U.K (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) and waiting for Customs Charges. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

There was a 8-day gap between them leaving the U.S and arriving in the U.K . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Odd, that.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on July 05, 2007, 11:32:22 am

Quoting: Roadkill

All four packages are now showing as arrived in U.K

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Quoting: Roadkill

waiting for Customs Charges.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on July 05, 2007, 11:34:50 am

Quoting: Roadkill

There was a 8-day gap between them leaving the U.S and arriving in the U.K . . .

Odd, that.

Normally double that (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on July 05, 2007, 11:58:00 am

Or trophies went MIA on the 1st... Presumed in customs...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

3-5 day delivery my ar$e... You can never factor in how long customs are going to take..

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 05, 2007, 12:13:59 pm

. . And with the Royal Mail striking - it hasn't helped . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on July 05, 2007, 12:21:15 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

All four packages are now showing as arrived in U.K

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Quoting: Roadkill

and waiting for Customs Charges

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 06, 2007, 08:45:21 am

1 package has been released with charges . . . the other 3 are still in customs.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 06, 2007, 10:55:07 am

2 have now been released - one of which is en route to the depot. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 06, 2007, 01:58:44 pm

2 are now on route . . . one has been released with charges . . . the last is still being held.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on July 07, 2007, 11:04:01 am

Tracking shows 3 packages attempted delivery this morning and 1 still awaiting customs.......(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Trophies are through customs, awaiting delivery.........(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on July 07, 2007, 06:26:11 pm

Last package is on it's way!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on July 07, 2007, 09:02:08 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on July 09, 2007, 08:13:31 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 09, 2007, 10:33:48 am

Quoting: sixpack2639

attempted delivery this morning

Ignore that - USPS always say that when It gets to the depot for some reason. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Royal Mail won't deliver if there's charges involved.

Good news, though, I'm picking up 3 out of the 4 tonight . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on July 09, 2007, 10:43:38 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 09, 2007, 02:50:41 pm

Even more stuff for the dining room !

Front and rear sway bars, links . . . tubular A-Arms . . . slotted rotors . . . . K-member supports . . . spring isolators for me.

Plus Chris' springs for the mussie . . .

Wonder what's in box number 4 ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on July 09, 2007, 02:55:48 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

springs for the mussie . . .

Huzzah (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 09, 2007, 03:00:12 pm

Quoting: Incursus

Huzzah

Yeah, you owe me some ££, now. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/devil.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 11, 2007, 08:00:53 am

Another box picked up . . . LCA's, Adjustable Panhard and WOnder Bar.

Awwwwwwww, baby. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Gonna hopefully get a paint match today then get to spraying the gearbox and axle . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on July 11, 2007, 09:22:14 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on July 11, 2007, 10:58:16 am

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Hopefully you'll be seeing the last package this time next week!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 11, 2007, 11:12:13 am

Then it's the mamoth task of putting it all back together . . . . . .

Then there's the K-Member . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Better give Spohn a prod . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/pokey.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 11, 2007, 11:16:11 am

Last package has left Miami . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 12, 2007, 01:40:09 pm

The K Member is being shipped MONDAY ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Spohn's Da Man ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

<scuttles off to check there's space on credit card . . . > (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on July 12, 2007, 01:52:09 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on July 23, 2007, 11:04:00 am

Took some doing but the K-member is repacked and ready for shipping!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Original dimentions......36x22x22 and 68lbs.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

This would never go USPS as the total, dimention wise, was 124" and their max is 108" and 66lbs for priority mail.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

New dimentions, (roughly)......38.5x13x20 and 50lbs!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Had to completely rebuild the box and it ain't pretty but it'll work and the total is 106"ish!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

They used wadded up paper to pack around it and I used peanuts taking 18lbs off the weight!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Shipping is gonna be in the neighbourhood of $185.

Only thing that struck me as odd was I remember the other bits being powder coated in red and black, and this is an ugly shade of greenish yellow neon-like colour?(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 24, 2007, 04:16:17 pm

Quoting: sixpack2639

and this is an ugly shade of greenish yellow neon-like colour?

Should be Red as the others . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on July 24, 2007, 04:19:58 pm

Really!?!??(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on July 24, 2007, 04:28:45 pm

Maybe it is red then, I am colour blind you know.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

It took me 3 trys to get a white girl.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on July 24, 2007, 04:36:57 pm

Quoting: sixpack2639

It took me 3 trys to get a white girl.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/kkk.gif)

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 24, 2007, 04:43:36 pm

Quoting: sixpack2639

Maybe it is red then, I am colour blind you know

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

So am I . . . but I know the others are Red . . .

I don't want to ship it over here if it turns out to be someone else's order . . . .
They do multiple variations of the K-Member so chances are it wouldn't fit my suspension / spring set up if it's not mine.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on July 25, 2007, 12:27:16 am

IT WAS A JOKE!!!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

I'm not colour blind and the K-Member is red. I was trying to yank yer chain but.......(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on July 25, 2007, 09:16:21 pm

lol... I call that kalma.... Chris and Dean spent two days refusing to accept that the walls we were painting were green, just to wind me up...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 25, 2007, 10:16:20 pm

Quoting: sixpack2639

I was trying to yank yer chain but.......

Not funny to someone who's spent since Friday constantly decorating with little sleep.

I'm knackered, to be honest. I'm looking forward to going back to site tomorrow as it'll be a welcome break.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lazy.gif)

Do need some sleep though . . the last two nights have been awful.

Still. Nothing comes easy. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 25, 2007, 10:17:38 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Chris and Dean spent two days refusing to accept that the walls we were painting were green, just to wind me up...

It looked Magnolia to me, mate. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Still looked the same while I was cutting-in around the skirting boards tonight too . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on July 25, 2007, 10:19:21 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm knackered, to be honest. I'm looking forward to going back to site tomorrow as it'll be a welcome break.

Ditto from my list of 52 jobs I've now completed 42 since Friday, 5am starts right through to midnight (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/headbang.gif)

8 of the jobs were painting (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 25, 2007, 10:23:58 pm

I've never had to decorate an entire 3 bed house in a week before . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

And when I'm done I've gotta build them a carport . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on July 26, 2007, 08:07:31 am

Quoting: Roadkill

And when I'm done I've gotta build them a carport . . .

I thought that was just for Chris...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 26, 2007, 03:29:48 pm

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I'm building a carport.

We'll see how big I can make it . . . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on August 17, 2007, 10:28:03 pm

According to the tracking yer K-Member is in the UK!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Took it 5 days to fly over if you believe their tracking. It left Miami last Monday and arrived in the UK today.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Thats an awfully slow airplane.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on August 17, 2007, 11:02:53 pm

Quoting: sixpack2639

According to the tracking yer K-Member is in the UK!

Took it 5 days to fly over if you believe their tracking. It left Miami last Monday and arrived in the UK today.

Thats an awfully slow airplane.

Just means some lazy customs officer has been resting his (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/OrigGlazed.gif) box on it for 4 days...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 18, 2007, 09:25:50 am

17-08-2007 17:31 International Hub AWAITING CUSTOMS CHARGES

I should get it thursday / Friday, then. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 18, 2007, 11:39:08 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 20, 2007, 11:42:59 am

Still awaiting charges . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 21, 2007, 12:50:26 pm

21-08-2007 10:22 International Hub En route to delivery depot

So I should be able to pick it up tomorrow. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/woohoo.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 23, 2007, 09:39:13 am

K-Member is here. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Next job is to weld-on the LCA relocation brackets, grind back, then apply primer so I can top-coat next week.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on August 23, 2007, 11:07:05 am

Quoting: Roadkill

K-Member is here.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 23, 2007, 07:59:03 pm

LCA relocation brackets welded in place.

Graeme did the welding (ta (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)), I did the prep, finishing and the primering.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Ca005.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Ca004.jpg)

The new diff support cover offered up nice.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Ca006.jpg)

The New Auburn LSD as fitted by WRE.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Ca007.jpg)

Successful evening . . . . Just got finished before it got dark . . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 23, 2007, 08:08:29 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) lookin good

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Rocky on August 23, 2007, 08:19:50 pm

Looking good mate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on August 24, 2007, 06:02:25 am

Nice bit of welding G Man (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 24, 2007, 01:05:03 pm

Quoting: F Body

Nice bit of welding G Man

The first side (first pic) was a bit rough (due to the over-hanging bracket getting in the way) but got good penetration (huh-huh) . . the second was a lot better.

The grinding came up better on the first one, but I'm happy, they're on their solid. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 26, 2007, 04:05:04 pm

Yay.

Progress.

Gearbox all done, rebuilt, painted and brackets/bushes cleaned refitted.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/1983ChevyCamaroZ2867.jpg)

Axle. Rebuilt with LSD, LCA brackets fitted, painted.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/1983ChevyCamaroZ2868.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/1983ChevyCamaroZ2869.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 26, 2007, 04:09:25 pm

Gotta get the old UJ's removed from the Prop next . . . then paint that and fit the new ones.

I'll have a go at fitting the diff cover when the paint's dried. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 26, 2007, 04:10:42 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

The garden's looking a little Redneck . . .

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on August 26, 2007, 07:00:14 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

The garden's looking a little Redneck . . .

I thought everyone had half Humber in their back yard (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on August 26, 2007, 07:00:51 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Progress.

Gearbox all done, rebuilt, painted and brackets/bushes cleaned refitted.

Looking sweet what paint are you using (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 27, 2007, 09:02:15 am

Quoting: F Body

Looking sweet what paint are you using

Celly.

I figured it doesn't get that hot under there or anything so have treated it like I was painting a body panel.

Albeit I did use several layers of primer to give extra protection and reduce roughness of the final top coat.

The paint was mixed by MK paint & equipment . . . and it's a visual match for the Spohn stuff (no I didn't match it).

It's a Mazda red . . . colorado red I think . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on August 27, 2007, 01:56:00 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It's a Mazda red . . . colorado red I think . . .

RK's Riceburner (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 27, 2007, 04:28:39 pm

Quoting: F Body

RK's Riceburner

Hopefully a "Riceburner Burner" if you know what I mean . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Anyway . . . . Here's the shopping list on the dining room floor . . . . 85% is for the Camaro - 15% is for the Caddy.

The rest is the paperweight. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on August 27, 2007, 04:32:15 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Here's the shopping list on the dining room floor . . .

Christmas has come early this year (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

It's gonna look the mutts nuts underneath, pitty no one is gonna see it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 27, 2007, 04:33:46 pm

Quoting: F Body

pitty no one is gonna see it

Provided I keep her shiney side up . . . . or down . . . . err . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

EDIT - It's practise for the Caddy, anyway. And if a jobs worth doing - it's worth doing right. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 27, 2007, 07:15:25 pm

THE REBUILD HAS OFFICIALLY BEGUN !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/woohoo.gif)

Diff support is fitted and load studs (correctly) torqued. BTW, As I needed torques as small as 10 ft lb I now own a baby torque wrench. Ahhhhhhhh.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee002.jpg)

The axle has also now had its new slave cylinders fitted.
Small steps . . . but steps in the right direction . . . . . for once.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee003.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 27, 2007, 07:44:43 pm

excllent mate - glad to hear it is (finally) going back together!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on August 27, 2007, 08:13:28 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

As I needed torques as small as 10 ft lb I now own a baby torque wrench. Ahhhhhhhh.

Yeah I bought one for my gearbox pan bolts at 8 ft lb and then found it that 8 ft lb is just past finger tight (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 28, 2007, 08:02:57 am

Quoting: F Body

Yeah I bought one for my gearbox pan bolts at 8 ft lb and then found it that 8 ft lb is just past finger tight

Normally I'd tighten by hand but know I'm notorious for over doing it.

The Studs basically press up against the bearing caps in the diff . . . . overtightening them would mean distorting them and throwing them "out of round" . . . . resulting in something expensive going "BANG" no doubt . . . .

The new wrench was cool.

My Daddy wrench covers the insanely heavy duty stuff 60-??? ft lb, I've got a medium wrench doing the 20-80 ft lb and now my baby one does 6-44 ft lb.
All nicely over-lapping each other.

It wasn't cheap, though . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on August 28, 2007, 09:13:31 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Normally I'd tighten by hand but know I'm notorious for over doing it.

We must have gone to the same Engineering school (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
If I had a pound for every bolt I've over tighten I'd be rich (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

I just can't stop myself tightening the bolt/screw and then just giving it a bit more (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/slap.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 28, 2007, 07:52:33 pm

Quoting: F Body

I just can't stop myself tightening the bolt/screw and then just giving it a bit more

I hear you brother.

I'm exactly the same. Just can't resist it.

Even when torqueing (sp) the "10 ft lb (MAX)" bolts - I purposely backed the wrench down to 8 ft lb knowing I'd give it a bit more.

Then I hessitated and set it to 9.5 ft lb and forced myself to resist the monkey !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 28, 2007, 07:56:48 pm

Note to thread.

Have photographed the rear sway bar arrangement on Fubar's IROC.

Need to purchase some 68mm (or similar) exhaust clamps to mimic the set-up on mine.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 29, 2007, 07:22:52 pm

Torque Arm loosely mounted to axle . . . S/S brakelines also fitted. Need to get a new junction block . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 29, 2007, 07:36:01 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Need to get a new junction block . . . .

Hang on - that's part of the rear flexipipe isn't it ?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Dammit - don't think I brought a new one of them . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on August 30, 2007, 08:03:35 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Hang on - that's part of the rear flexipipe isn't it ?

Dammit - don't think I brought a new one of them . . .

There's one in the brake pipes kit you posted elsewhere...

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 30, 2007, 09:14:54 am

Quoting: Jamieg285

There's one in the brake pipes kit you posted elsewhere...

I know . . . hence that post. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on August 30, 2007, 09:17:34 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 01, 2007, 06:36:36 pm

Not much to report - was hoping to start getting the underside of the floor pan done at the rear today but just never got started.

Instead I started loosely assembling the new Moog and Spohn steering parts.
Decided that the bare metal Moog parts needed paint . . . . so they've been primered ready for top coat.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 15, 2007, 08:48:42 pm

Mini update.

Got the Moog/Spohn steering components primered / painted and assembled with new Polythane boots.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Picture1.jpg)

Stripped out the Holley fuel pump and took some more bits off the underside ready for POR15'ing tomorrow.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 16, 2007, 10:41:12 pm

Fairly successful day . . . .

After finishing the oil change on the Supra I got the under side at the rear thoroughly cleaned down.

Went from the rear bumper to about 12" along the trans tunnel (took fooking ages) then POR15'ed the same area.

Thanks to Graeme for assistance and the rest of my MKB posse for tea / bacon sarnies and moral support.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mkb.gif)

Also got the GM bump-stops refitted and the ST suspension sway bar adapter kit brackets on, too.

Also the fuel tank has now been de-crapped one last time and I've scrubbed it down and laid two coats of primer on it ready for finishing. No pictures though as it was pitch black when I finished doing that !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Picture1001.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Picture1002.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/1983ChevyCamaroZ2876.jpg)

ALL SYSTEMS GO FOR THE FUEL TANK AND AXLE RE-FIT NEXT WEEKEND !!

EDIT - And no, the blemishes under the POR15 isn't rust-scabs . . . it's splatters of factory-underseal.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on September 16, 2007, 10:57:16 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Need to purchase some 68mm (or similar) exhaust clamps to mimic the set-up on mine.

http://vertexnow.com/Verocious-Motorsports/Accuseal/AccuSeal-Stainless-Steel-Exhaust-Clamp

Those are the ones I bought, my Borla system came with Accuseal clamps which worked brilliantly so when I re-did the CAT & mid section of my exhaust recently I had to hunt around for the same clamps. I refused to use U-Clamps because I think they're horrible and tried other low profile clamps but they didn't fit. I felt I had to use low profile ones because of the inherant problems 3rd gens have with exhaust clearances. The accuseals were the only ones I knew worked so paid to get the from across the pond.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on September 16, 2007, 10:58:52 pm

addendum...

the 3" ones comfortably fitted the OD of the slip-fit Cat Finlay sold me so will do slightly greater than the 3" advertised.

Finlay, if you read this, get them in stock, they're excellent!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on September 17, 2007, 08:11:04 am

looks very nice (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) on the underside of the maro mate - bet u juss wanna get out there now and start re-fitting things lol!!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 17, 2007, 08:50:06 am

Quoting: FUBAR

Those are the ones I bought . . .

i DON'T NEED THEM FOR AN EXHAUST - i NEED THEM TO FIT THE SWAY BAR. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Edit - Bloody CAPS LOCK ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

In other words I need the "old fashioned" style clamps. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on September 17, 2007, 12:43:32 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

i DON'T NEED THEM FOR AN EXHAUST - i NEED THEM TO FIT THE SWAY BAR.

Aah yeah I remember now... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 17, 2007, 12:51:09 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Wake up. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lazy.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on September 17, 2007, 03:40:09 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/ryan2.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on September 17, 2007, 03:51:29 pm

LOL ryan.......sleepy........wake up (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 18, 2007, 09:14:24 am

Began POR15'ing the fuel tank last night but it got fooking dark fooking quick. Got most of it done, just some near-hidden parts along the seams to go-over again tonight.

Also need to sort out the tank straps, too . . . .

I'm gonna call my local supplier at lunch to sort the clamps for the sway bar.

I'll call JWR / USless Auto to see if they carry the flexi's I need as I haven't got time to wait for them to come over from the states . . .

Weather looks O.K for the weekend so still all systems go . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 18, 2007, 07:36:22 pm

Fuel tank is now POR15'ed. I did take a piccy but it was in fading light so was grainy.

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm gonna call my local supplier at lunch to sort the clamps for the sway bar.

Done, they're getting them in for tomorrow.

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll call JWR / USless Auto to see if they carry the flexi's I need as I haven't got time to wait for them to come over from the states . . .

Rang JWR . . they haven't got the SS lines . . . but have got stock ones . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 18, 2007, 07:44:48 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Rang JWR . . they haven't got the SS lines . . . but have got stock ones . . .

I would just order it from the states mate, not like you need the brakes at the moment

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Post by: Titsy on September 18, 2007, 08:18:33 pm

what about Earl's at Silverstone... They just look up the template on the database and make them up...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 19, 2007, 08:33:01 am

Quoting: 55starchief

I would just order it from the states mate, not like you need the brakes at the moment

True, but I wanted to at least get the rear flexi on the axle for simplicity while it's off the car . . .

Quoting: Titsy

what about Earl's at Silverstone... They just look up the template on the database and make them up...

Sounds perfect . . . how much is it likely to cost ???

I really need at least the rear one for Saturday, latest. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 19, 2007, 05:52:13 pm

No go with Earls . . . They need a pattern. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Fuel tank straps have been straightened and will be scrubbed down . . . maybe painted. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

The fuel tank :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Picture11.jpg)

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Post by: ianjpage on September 19, 2007, 09:59:42 pm

looking sweet mate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 19, 2007, 11:06:38 pm

I ordered a set of S/S flexi's from Spohn in the end (no surprise).

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

What can I say ? - They're helpful and even with the shipping - their prices p!ss all over what I'd pay here.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 20, 2007, 12:38:01 pm

They're on their way via USPS express international. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

All in, with shipping it works out at £59 . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) - That's what JWR wanted for stock ones . . . .

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Post by: 55starchief on September 20, 2007, 12:48:07 pm

Fingers corossed they should be here sat morning then. If i was you i wold get the tracking number and get ready to hassle parcelforce just incase it needs a VAT payment

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Post by: Roadkill on September 20, 2007, 04:23:32 pm

i'VE ALREADY GOT THE TRACKING NUMBER. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Damn CAPS LOCK. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 20, 2007, 05:01:11 pm

Well just remember parcelforce now send a letter which wastes time so a quick phone call might save you 2 days

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Post by: Roadkill on September 20, 2007, 05:18:23 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

Well just remember parcelforce now send a letter which wastes time so a quick phone call might save you 2 days

Only if there's duty due on the item, if not they attempt to deliver as usual.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 21, 2007, 09:06:34 am

Fuel tank is re-assembled. The sender is back in . . . the wires have been cleaned, tidied and re-fitted.

The old reutrn pipes have been trimmed back and tidied up and I've cleaned the pressure valve thingy . . but still need to re-fit it.

Any rubber parts (pipe & seal) have been replaced with new and all clamps are also new.

Pic's to follow. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 21, 2007, 09:10:32 am

Jobs for tonight are to sort out fixings for tomorrow . . ie work out what new shiny bolt goes on which new shiny part. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

That'll take a while 'cos there's loads of them !

Also I need to have a sort through to find the bolts for the tank straps . . . . . haven't seen those for a while . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Basically I want everything ready for an early as possible start tomorrow.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on September 21, 2007, 09:17:01 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Basically I want everything ready for an early as possible start tomorrow.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/whipped.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/gym.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 21, 2007, 02:48:26 pm

Can't do the (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/gym.gif) . . . but can from next month. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on September 21, 2007, 07:05:14 pm

good luck in getting it back together tomorrow mate

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Post by: Roadkill on September 21, 2007, 08:17:42 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

good luck in getting it back together tomorrow mate

Me and Fubes should have a good 7 hours on it so I expect a major update this time tomorrow !

Fingers crossed . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Ideally I could do with a third pair of hands for about an hour or so . . if anyone's free . . . To help steady the axle while it's bolted in. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: philoldsmobile on September 21, 2007, 08:19:28 pm

bike MOT is at 3, might try and push it forward, can come over right after that..

be at yours about 4:15?

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Post by: 55starchief on September 21, 2007, 08:24:02 pm

depending what time edge manages to make it to mine i might come over to yours and leave the t/a for this weekend

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Post by: Roadkill on September 21, 2007, 08:45:39 pm

Quoting: philoldsmobile

be at yours about 4:15?

Probably be too late, mate. Thanks, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: philoldsmobile on September 21, 2007, 09:11:20 pm

like i said, i'll try and push MOT forward, they aren't doing many this time of year

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Post by: ianjpage on September 21, 2007, 09:16:02 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Me and Fubes should have a good 7 hours on it so I expect a major update this time tomorrow !

sweet, i shall keep me eyes open fer pics and progress (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 22, 2007, 07:23:33 pm

UPDATE - PT 1

The mission - a simple one. To get the following parts fitted back on to the Z28 today !

The freshly finished tank complete with new fittings, the rebuilt axle, (loose fit) torque arm, Tokico Shocks, upper and lower panhard (BMR and Spohn respectively), LCAs & rear sway bar (Spohn), Eibach Sportlines and other bits and bobs.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee011.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee014.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee015.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee016.jpg)

And so we go . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on September 22, 2007, 07:31:23 pm

ALL DONE ! - AND MORE.

As well as fitting all parts above I also managed to get the Holley blue re-located to it's new home behind the fuel filler pipe (behind a stock dust / mud cover).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee023.jpg)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee017.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee018.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee019.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee020.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee021.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee022.jpg)

Also got the wheels back on which was nice. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee024.jpg)

The brakes shoes aren't in, nor are the parking brake cables in but that wasn't the plan anyway . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zee025.jpg)

Next major job . . . . . A NEW 350ci ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 22, 2007, 07:37:25 pm

Looks good mate, im guessing its going to sit lower after the 1st time you move it.

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Post by: ianjpage on September 22, 2007, 07:55:28 pm

sweeeet nice going mate looks soooo much better with the wheels back on at last (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on September 22, 2007, 07:55:47 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Next major job . . . . . A NEW 350ci !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 22, 2007, 07:58:12 pm

SUMMARY :

Firstly, thanks to Fubar and Chris for assistance today.

Everything went pretty-much to plan. All Spohn stuff bolted in as-stock with no hammering or faffing.

SPOHN (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

The Eibach's and Tokico's also went in as they should - I'll give them a final verdict after my first blat after she's finished but the quality and workmanship of both is obvious.

BMR. Not overly happy. Both parts I brought were well made but, firstly, the "Third Gen battery relocation tray" didn't fit my third gen. Not at all. Not without serious cutting / modification to the car and/or tray.
$100 I simply could've spent elsewhere.
Secondly. The upper panhard arm. It was 3mm short (on full adjustment of slotted holes). Not terrible but I didn't really want to start bastardising the mount holes. Nevermind.
Also, re the Panhard, the bolts supplied weren't correct . . the correct ones should taper, the ones supplied did not, meaning I had to increase the diameter of the rear holes in the chassis by a further 2mm.
Finally (!) the laser cut plates to relocate the bar slightly lower than stock weren't correct . . . at least, not for mine . . . BMR included a picture showing the fitting but they did not fit that way on mine . . . . no biggie, but irritating.

I've no intention at this stage of using BMR again . . . however, again, at this stage have no cause to complain about Spohn.

Spohn has been extremely helpful, with Steve prompt to reply to my emails . . . also all parts I've received have been to a very high standard.

ONWARDS !!!

Next job is to pull the tired 305ci and strip the front end to clear the way for the new K-Member.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 22, 2007, 07:59:20 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

Looks good mate, im guessing its going to sit lower after the 1st time you move it.

Yup, she settled some what after I leant on her . . . I expected that . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 22, 2007, 08:02:32 pm

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/pts/424404447.html

mwuhahahahah

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Post by: Roadkill on September 22, 2007, 08:09:47 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Whatcha reckon ? Turbos ain't my thang. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 22, 2007, 08:18:27 pm

well that other kit is the same so i would think $1500 would be a good start

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Post by: philoldsmobile on September 23, 2007, 08:03:53 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Whatcha reckon ? Turbos ain't my thang.

ever had a turbo car? that whoosh and surge of power is soooooo addictive..

one of the reason i love renault turbo's so much is because they dont disguise or hide the turbo noise, under acceleration its all whistles and hisses, then fluttering and cooing when you back off (sounds like a mutant pigeon trapped under the bonnet!)

my Renault turbo was helped by having a hybrid turbo, bigger intercooler and a load of other mods, and was making about 150bhp at hte front wheels, believe me, thats more than enough for a small front wheel drive hatchback

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Post by: 55starchief on September 23, 2007, 09:15:33 am

Quoting: philoldsmobile

ever had a turbo car? that whoosh and surge of power is soooooo addictive..

hell yeah, once you have owned a turbo car nothing else feels quite the same, its the whole sensation both physical and emotional. Its the sound as much as the speed, get the sound right and it doesnt matter how fast your going

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Post by: sixpack2639 on September 23, 2007, 01:46:52 pm

Looking good Deano!!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 23, 2007, 04:28:42 pm

Er

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevy-SBC-Twin-Turbo-TT-Kit-1982-1992-Camaro-Trans-AM_W0QQitemZ260146219124QQcmdZViewItem

then the same seller the same item

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevy-SBC-Twin-Turbo-TT-Kit-1982-1992-Camaro-Trans-AM_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ015QQitemZ250167738307QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 23, 2007, 06:09:11 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

That second kit is £700 !!!

WTF ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 23, 2007, 06:11:21 pm

Yup (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

As posted in the other thread i found the turbos new for £190 each and looking at the rest of the kit there is more than £300 in oarts and fab

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Post by: Roadkill on September 23, 2007, 06:14:20 pm

For £700 I smell something (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/fish2.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Maybe just me, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 23, 2007, 06:20:16 pm

dont think so mate, he has loads of kits on there about the same price, the one i pm'd you is the odd one out

A quick look through his feedback and that kit is going from $1000-$1500 with pretty good feedback from people buying it

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Post by: Roadkill on September 23, 2007, 09:01:50 pm

Gunna review my credit card tonight . . . and see how much I actually get paid tomorrow (first pay day in new job).

Then make some decisions . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 23, 2007, 09:04:14 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/turbo.gif)

700hp should be just enough to make that an intresting drive (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 23, 2007, 09:09:52 pm

So the Turbos in this kit would mount forward of the engine, right ?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Works out at £681.

Feeling a little (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250167738307&rd=1

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Post by: 55starchief on September 23, 2007, 09:10:43 pm

oh yeah, if your going turbo your gonna need one of these

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MSD%2D8964&N=700+4294925228+115&autoview=sku

(http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/msd-8964.jpg)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 23, 2007, 09:12:04 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

So the Turbos in this kit would mount forward of the engine, right ?

yes, you should have plenty of space, might be worth an email to the guy on the 'headers' and ask him the length just to be sure

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Post by: Roadkill on September 23, 2007, 09:13:39 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

All in, with shipping it works out at £59

£58.24, in fact. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) - again, a good rate from my credit card. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 23, 2007, 09:16:35 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

yes, you should have plenty of space

Yup, should be no problem . . .

Quoting: 55starchief

might be worth an email to the guy on the 'headers' and ask him the length just to be sure

It states 24.5" on :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevy-Camaro-Trans-Am-Firebird-350-305-TURBO-HEADERS-TT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33631QQihZ016QQitemZ260153616587

I'll have a measure at the weekend . . .

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Post by: 55starchief on September 23, 2007, 09:20:52 pm

Your gonna have a very very very quick maro there mate

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Post by: Titsy on September 23, 2007, 09:21:55 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

oh yeah, if your going turbo your gonna need one of these

Don't forget the wide band O2 sensor...

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Post by: Titsy on September 23, 2007, 09:22:46 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

Your gonna have a very very very quick maro there mate

Roadkill might be a fitting name...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 23, 2007, 09:25:35 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

Your gonna have a very very very quick maro there mate

I'm only doing the "fast car" build once. So I'm doing it right.

TBH, fast cars ain't my thing . . . but everyone's gotta have one, right ?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 23, 2007, 09:27:05 pm

By the way . . how do Turbos respond to laughing gas ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 23, 2007, 09:29:00 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Don't forget the wide band O2 sensor...

im gonna order one of these mate as i need ot for a couple of jobs.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm1.php

(http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/images/LM1_Kit_3.jpg)

and this part

(http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/xcart/product_image.php?imageid=32)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 23, 2007, 09:30:02 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

By the way . . how do Turbos respond to laughing gas ?

you dont use it in the engine you use it over the intercooler to cool the charge further, you can also use CO2 which is cheaper

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Post by: Roadkill on September 23, 2007, 10:24:25 pm

Yeah, I've heard about charge cooling . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 24, 2007, 11:03:31 am

Can you get the part number off the trans matey

if it is Ford part number 7003Z (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) its good for 450hp

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Post by: Titsy on September 24, 2007, 05:37:40 pm

So what are you doing for fueling...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) N.B. those exhaust headers look shockingly bad...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 24, 2007, 06:02:27 pm

Quoting: Titsy

So what are you doing for fueling...

upping the jets 2 sizes in the blow through carb to start with

Quoting: Titsy

N.B. those exhaust headers look shockingly bad...

in what way? i thought they looked pretty good

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Post by: Roadkill on September 24, 2007, 07:01:51 pm

Quoting: Titsy

So what are you doing for fueling...

Quoting: 55starchief

upping the jets 2 sizes in the blow through carb to start with

Also, I'm installing the largest diameter ally fuel line I can possibly fit to the Camaro . . . Fuel being pumped by a new Holley Blue leccy pump.

The carb is specifically designed for after-market forced induction.

Quoting: Titsy

those exhaust headers look shockingly bad...

In what way ? . . . The seam welding is fairly tidy . . . they're Stainless . . . the flanges are fairly rough laser-cut, admittedly, but who cares - they'll more then do the job and at that price are practically give-away !?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 24, 2007, 07:17:16 pm

Your going to need a pump that can deliver 1 pound of fuel to 1 pound of boost. While your running the stock T5 the holley should be ok but when you wind up the boost you might want to look at an EFI pump and regulate it down

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Post by: Titsy on September 24, 2007, 07:23:33 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

As I said to you after I posted it... It's not the build quality so much as the layout...

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Post by: 55starchief on September 24, 2007, 07:26:43 pm

Quoting: Titsy

As I said to you after I posted it... It's not the build quality so much as the layout...

whats wrong with the layout? its the same as every turbo manifold i have seen on a production car

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Post by: Roadkill on September 24, 2007, 08:07:46 pm

Quoting: Titsy

As I said to you after I posted it... It's not the build quality so much as the layout...

True equal length primary headers tend to be a rare item . . . and take up a hell of a lot of under-the-hood space.

Eg :

(http://www.turnermotorsport.com/image/Intake_Exhaust/exhaust_e36_headers_LG.jpg)

With two Turbos, tubes and intercooler in there I don't think I'd have the room.

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Post by: 55starchief on September 24, 2007, 08:13:19 pm

We didnt have equal length manifolds on the lola beatrice and that was a car that had millions in development when it was raced back in the mid 80's

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Post by: Roadkill on September 27, 2007, 01:00:26 pm

That turbo kit went for under £580 in the end . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250167738307&rd=1

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Post by: 55starchief on September 27, 2007, 01:07:12 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

That turbo kit went for under £580 in the end . . .

best get bidding on the next one then matey (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/devil.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 27, 2007, 04:00:25 pm

It had occured to me . . . Need to call JWR, first . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 28, 2007, 02:10:38 pm

Exhaust and the MOT

http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_710.htm

No reg as to where the exhaust can and cant exit

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Post by: Roadkill on September 28, 2007, 02:50:31 pm

a silencer in such condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a silencer in average condition.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/roll.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 29, 2007, 06:16:29 pm

Turbo kit is back on US eBay . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/ebayanim.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 29, 2007, 06:17:19 pm

Oh, and the S/S flexi's arrived earlier this week.

Not in time for the weekend gone but still quick. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 30, 2007, 09:26:09 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Turbo kit is back on US eBay . . .

Quoting: Ambulance from The Simpsons

buy me, buy me, buy me, buy me

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/devil.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 30, 2007, 09:43:25 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

It'll depend on the next few hours . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

There may be an addition to the fleet . . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 30, 2007, 05:49:08 pm

Dont forget to add these to the list

(http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/msr-9200_w.jpg)

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=MSR%2D9200&view=1&N=700+150+4294845827+4294845821+

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Post by: Roadkill on September 30, 2007, 06:42:06 pm

Engine's definately first on the "new" list . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: F Body on September 30, 2007, 06:43:17 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It'll depend on the next few hours . . . .

There may be an addition to the fleet . . . . . .

I told you he has the Rice Burner Bug now (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 30, 2007, 06:45:16 pm

Quoting: F Body

I told you he has the Rice Burner Bug now

T'is all hush-hush at the mo, mate. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)

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Post by: F Body on September 30, 2007, 06:46:52 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

T'is all hush-hush at the mo, mate.

Just you, me and anyone in the world with Internet access will know (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 30, 2007, 06:48:33 pm

O.K, it's not a rice burner.

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Post by: 55starchief on September 30, 2007, 07:41:15 pm

Damn these kits get cheaper

http://ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1844

***edit***

Seems this kit is crap after a little googling, people saying the turbos have failed in a short time

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Post by: F Body on September 30, 2007, 07:46:27 pm

TWIN GT3076S TURBO KIT

Price
$639.00

Damm that's cheap, at that price they'll be plenty of people blowing they big ends away (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grenade.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 30, 2007, 07:51:49 pm

Quoting: F Body

Damm that's cheap, at that price they'll be plenty of people blowing they big ends away

not with turbos mate, they dont load the motor like superchargers or NOS

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Post by: F Body on September 30, 2007, 07:55:18 pm

But the added power has to go through the engine / drive train (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 30, 2007, 07:58:10 pm

Quoting: F Body

But the added power has to go through the engine / drive train

its not as heavy though, i know guys running in the us pushing 800hp on stock motors

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Post by: Roadkill on September 30, 2007, 09:54:24 pm

Seems that the $1300 isn't THAT impressive . . . which kinda makes me more comfortable about buying it . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 30, 2007, 09:57:16 pm

That other cheap kit has internal wastegates on the turbos, the more expensive kit has external waste gates so if you wanted to update the turbos to a branded unit like a turbonetics which run $800ish each you could without needing to do a lort more work

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Post by: Roadkill on September 30, 2007, 09:58:29 pm

Yep, definately the first kit is on the cards . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on September 30, 2007, 10:10:59 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/turbo.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/turbo.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 03, 2007, 09:28:38 am

Holy crap.

The last TT kit went for under £500 !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

and

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on October 03, 2007, 09:31:21 am

Did you get a price from JWR for the motor?

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Post by: EDGE on October 03, 2007, 09:34:17 am

FI is the way ahead.....

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Post by: Roadkill on October 03, 2007, 12:53:01 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

Did you get a price from JWR for the motor?

Not yet . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Pod on October 03, 2007, 07:19:52 pm

Quoting: EDGE

FI is the way ahead.....

Fuel injection (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on October 03, 2007, 07:21:05 pm

Quoting: Pod

Fuel injection

nope forced induction

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Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2007, 10:14:13 am

Turbo kits . . . What's peoples thoughts . . . . As I know very little about Turbos ?

1)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUAL-TURBO-KIT-for-CHEVY-SB-283-400-CAMARO-FIREBIRD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ017QQitemZ270180929997QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

2)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEVY-SB-283-400-CAMARO-FIREBIRD-TWIN-TURBO-KIT-350-305_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ012QQitemZ220165731492QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

3)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevy-SBC-Twin-Turbo-TT-Kit-1982-1992-Camaro-Trans-AM_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ015QQitemZ250182536214QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

4)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEVY-SB-283-400-CAMARO-FIREBIRD-TWIN-TURBO-KIT-CHEVY_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ020QQitemZ300166877329QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Number three appears to be the only one with external wastegates . . . but I don't know how important that is . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) . . . It's also the most expensive.

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Post by: 55starchief on November 01, 2007, 11:33:46 am

Go for the external wastegate kit, then when you want to upgrade from the cheaper turbos to say a garett or turbonetics everything else will work fine

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Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2007, 06:58:47 pm

That's what I had guessed . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 08, 2007, 04:10:14 pm

F*ck I hate being messed about. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/devil.gif)

A friend of Sams brother started working for JWR and told me that I could get a good discount on any part.

Cool, I thought, I need an engine.

After ALOT of messing trying to get a confirmed price / discount I find that, no, I can't get a discount on that part.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

I was hoping for around £1200 (as that's all I can do) but it's £1640.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Kinda dead in the water at the mo'.

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Post by: FUBAR on November 08, 2007, 04:21:36 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/greenrocket.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 08, 2007, 09:09:29 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Dunno if I get justify that kinda money . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

For that surely I must be able to import something as good or better . . . ?

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Post by: 55starchief on November 08, 2007, 09:30:50 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

For that surely I must be able to import something as good or better . . . ?

jegs have the GM 350 goodwrench for $1,479.99 i doubt shipping is going to be more than £400 plus duty and VAT, actualy might not be duty

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Post by: Roadkill on November 08, 2007, 09:44:02 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

jegs have the GM 350 goodwrench for $1,479.99

I know, just checked.

Wonder how much shipping is . . or if they even would do it ?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on November 08, 2007, 09:50:07 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Wonder how much shipping is . . or if they even would do it ?

well if you can get weight and dimensions i can give circle or bax a call

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Post by: 55starchief on November 08, 2007, 09:59:52 pm

I just had a trhought, i can ask dwain if he can get the crate nmotor, he might even get discount

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Post by: sixpack2639 on November 08, 2007, 11:26:06 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

I just had a trhought, i can ask dwain if he can get the crate nmotor, he might even get discount

Had much to drink tonight Graeme?!?(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on November 08, 2007, 11:27:19 pm

Quoting: sixpack2639

Had much to drink tonight Graeme?!?

i have a dyslexic keyboard mate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: sixpack2639 on November 08, 2007, 11:27:50 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on November 08, 2007, 11:33:36 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

i have a ~~apple~~ dyslexic keyboard mate

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: sixpack2639 on November 08, 2007, 11:47:38 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/flag.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on November 09, 2007, 09:40:18 am

Have an email in with eagle for a price to collect from the dealership dwain works at delivered to our factory

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Post by: art b on November 09, 2007, 07:28:44 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

i have a dyslexic keyboard mate

apple ftw......(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

watch wot ur typin porky fingers.........(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on November 10, 2007, 10:06:09 am

Quoting: art b

apple ftw......

I was actualy using a PC, the mac corrects your spelling as you type

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Post by: 55starchief on November 10, 2007, 05:00:35 pm

Ok have a price from dwain, the best he can do on that motor is $2k as it costs him $1800. I gave him the jegs price and he said he cant compete with that seeing as its $400 less than his cost price

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Post by: 55starchief on November 12, 2007, 08:26:24 am

Ok well here is what its gonna cost you to ship a motor from the US and this is not including delivery to brackley or where ever you want it

Charges to LHR as follows :

Air freight all USD 1.86 per kilo
Local Pick up 0.20 per kilo
EGL Handling haz frt 50.00
AES Fee 20.00
Airport transfer 0.05 per kilo
Airline fuel surcharge 0.70 per kilo
Airline security charge 0.15 per kilo
Disbursement fee 19.76
Haz Fee 90.00

The motor weighs 181kgs by the way, also mikes motor is only a 2 bolt main block

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Post by: Roadkill on November 12, 2007, 09:38:08 am

Quoting: 55starchief

Air freight all USD 1.86 per kilo

$336.66

Quoting: 55starchief

Local Pick up 0.20 per kilo

$36.20

Plus $70 other fees.

Quoting: 55starchief

Airport transfer 0.05 per kilo

$9.05

Quoting: 55starchief

Airline fuel surcharge 0.70 per kilo

$126.70

Quoting: 55starchief

Airline security charge 0.15 per kilo

$27.15

Plus $109.76 further fees =

$715.52 = £344 . . . . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on November 12, 2007, 09:40:44 am

Engine is $1479 = £711

So £1055 not including tax, duty or shipping to M.K . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/russian_roulette.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on November 12, 2007, 09:44:59 am

Im just checking that all of those fees are in USD mate, am also questioning why there is a HAZMAT fee on a dry motor

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Post by: 55starchief on November 12, 2007, 04:06:47 pm

Ok no hazmat charges so thats gonna make a small saving

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Post by: Roadkill on November 12, 2007, 05:08:55 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

£1055

Minus $90 (£43) = £1012 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 12, 2007, 05:11:41 pm

What's the vat and duty gunna be ? - 17.5% and 10% respectively ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on November 12, 2007, 05:41:03 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

What's the vat and duty gunna be ? - 17.5% and 10% respectively ?

Ok VAT will be 17.5% but i cant seem to find anything that says there will be duty to pay on the motor so you might get lucky here.Also remember if the motor is not brand new and sealed you will have to pay the HAZMAT charge

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Post by: Roadkill on November 12, 2007, 05:47:50 pm

So £1012 with vat ? = £1189 . . . .

If duty as well = £1308 . . . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

All I'd need to do is have a piece of paper saying I worked for an automotive comapny and apparently I could set up a trade account with JWR with major savings . . . .

Alas, my company parted F1 over a year ago, now . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on November 12, 2007, 05:49:31 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

All I'd need to do is have a piece of paper saying I worked for an automotive company and apparently I could set up a trade account with JWR with major savings . . . .

What about titsy or fbody

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Post by: 55starchief on November 12, 2007, 05:50:16 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

So £1012 with vat ? = £1189 . . . .

yup and thats still not delivered

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Post by: Titsy on November 12, 2007, 10:59:38 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

All I'd need to do is have a piece of paper saying I worked for an automotive comapny and apparently I could set up a trade account with JWR with major savings . . . .

Quoting: 55starchief

What about titsy

Can you get me the full details in writing on what's required here please...

It's not likely if the purchasing has the go through the company books, but get me the info and we'll see...

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Post by: Titsy on November 12, 2007, 11:00:13 pm

BTW, what about Edge Motorsport...

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Post by: Roadkill on November 13, 2007, 09:57:54 am

Quoting: Titsy

Can you get me the full details in writing on what's required here please...

I was told a piece of headed paper (obviously showing the company name) and a simple statement from your guv'nor comfirming that you work there . . . .

I'll check further.

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Post by: F Body on November 13, 2007, 01:00:31 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Quoting: Roadkill
All I'd need to do is have a piece of paper saying I worked for an automotive comapny and apparently I could set up a trade account with JWR with major savings . . . .
Quoting: 55starchief
What about titsy

Can you get me the full details in writing on what's required here please...

It's not likely if the purchasing has the go through the company books, but get me the info and we'll see...

Be careful Dude, if you have a "sleeping" company which provides you with these sort of benefits etc, you still have to do the tax returns and pay VAT on any purchases (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on November 13, 2007, 06:38:40 pm

That's why I want ALL the details...

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Post by: 55starchief on November 13, 2007, 07:17:39 pm

PART NUMBER

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Post by: Roadkill on November 13, 2007, 11:30:16 pm

Guv'nor was around all day . . I get limited time in the drawing office and my desk is opposite his . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on November 15, 2007, 09:21:49 am

Ahem if you want me to get a better price i need the part number (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 15, 2007, 11:18:07 am

oNLY ONE PHONE IN THIS OFFICE AND IT'S ON THE GUV'NORS DESK ! - iT'LL HAVE TO WAIT . . .

Damn CAPS LOCK. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on January 02, 2008, 12:03:04 pm

Well looks like the LT1 has a CR of 10.5:1 which isnt ideal for turbo's although a little reading on the web says 7 pound of boost is the safe limit on a stock LT1. That would still give you about 400hp (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 02, 2008, 12:09:18 pm

I'm thinking laughing gas . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on January 02, 2008, 12:11:55 pm

The turbo would be more gentle on the motor and as your not boosting the motor all the time i cant see any reason for damage providing you keep the boost under control (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/devil.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 02, 2008, 12:33:13 pm

Yeah, that'll have to be at a later date, now, though.

I'll be happy with the extra power from the LT1. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Speaking of which . . . How does the Dizzy pick up on the motor ?

Does the Cam have the appropriate gear or am I after a Camshaft as well ?

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Post by: 55starchief on January 02, 2008, 12:34:24 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Does the Cam have the appropriate gear or am I after a Camshaft as well ?

apparently so as it drives the oil pump

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Post by: Roadkill on January 02, 2008, 12:38:33 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

apparently so as it drives the oil pump

Good ole "one fits all" GM. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Will be easy to find out once the intake is off . . .

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Post by: 55starchief on January 02, 2008, 12:41:15 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Will be easy to find out once the intake is off . . .

was just thinking the same

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Post by: Roadkill on January 02, 2008, 03:05:13 pm

http://www.turbo-kits.com/lt1_camaro_turbo_kits.html

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on January 02, 2008, 03:09:44 pm

Yeah thats where i got the info from lol. thats a pikey looking kit though as its designed to fit around the 4th gen engine bay.

I would just go with the other kit and not boost the motor as much. Im guessing the LT1 has the same header dimensions as a gen I SBC?

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Post by: FUBAR on January 02, 2008, 03:19:43 pm

I think so...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) when you get to the LS1 the exhaust ports are equally spaced.

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Post by: Roadkill on January 02, 2008, 03:27:44 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

Im guessing the LT1 has the same header dimensions as a gen I SBC?

AFAIK, yeah . . . hence I've said in my engine advert that I'm keeping them.

The twin turbo kit still seems the best bet, as you say, just lay off the boost . . . . plus the increase in weight with the turbos will be off-set by the ally heads.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on January 03, 2008, 08:58:10 am

Ok checked with dwain last night and the cam does have the drive (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) Also hadnt realised titsy had a spare ecm for the LT1, this would definatly be the better way to go with the turbo and give you the fuel economy as well. Would need to look at the loom but im pretty sure it wouldnt be that hard

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Post by: Roadkill on January 03, 2008, 09:23:38 am

Quoting: 55starchief

this would definatly be the better way to go with the turbo and give you the fuel economy as well. Would need to look at the loom but im pretty sure it wouldnt be that hard

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Not keen, TBH . . . . .

But I'll consider my options . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: art b on January 03, 2008, 11:03:56 am

Quoting: Roadkill

just lay off the boost

Quoting: 55starchief

and give you the fuel economy as well.

cant see these happening.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 03, 2008, 11:16:23 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

To be honest, I don't want it to sound like a '93 LT-1.

'Cos, going by Titsy's, they sound lame.

They perform, yes, but sound wet. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Hence I was thinking Carb it and keep the exhaust free and short . . . . . Dunno how F.I and an ECU would work with little / no baffling.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on January 03, 2008, 11:22:17 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Hence I was thinking Carb it and keep the exhaust free and short . . . . . Dunno how F.I and an ECU would work with little / no baffling.

Not gonna bother it seeing as we can hack the ecm. You have to remember that titsys car has all the cats and shit left in the system. There are plenty of moder hotrods running LT and LS motors that sound cool as hell

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Post by: Roadkill on January 03, 2008, 11:43:34 am

Double post. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 03, 2008, 11:43:45 am

It will save me some $$$ on the manifold.

I'm still gonna be keeping my HEI dizzy and Carb for now, though . . . .

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Post by: 55starchief on January 04, 2008, 04:08:13 pm

Well look what some nice man has done

http://www.lt1swap.com/93lt1a4.htm

All we would need to know to hook up the EFI equiped motor to your car

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Post by: Roadkill on January 04, 2008, 04:26:57 pm

Lots of sparky talk there, my brain switched off after the first sentence . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/stupid.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on January 04, 2008, 04:29:03 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Lots of sparky talk there, my brain switched off after the first sentence . . . .

this is the only important part, nothing more than connecting a few wires to the ignition switch and adding a few fuses (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

***Here are the essential MINIMUMS you need to get it running****************

1. C210 pin C, ORANGE - battery feed to PCM, 10 amp fused

2. 3 eye-let connectors in harness near coil/module connector, engine block (ground), also 2 grounds near starter (black/white stripe)

3. C100 pin F, BRN - key 12v+ feed to EVAP, EGR solenoids, book shows 10amp fused - ONLY NEEDED FOR EMISSIONS

4. C230 pin G, PINK - key 12v+ feed to PCM

5. C100 pin A, PINK - key 12v+ feed to Injectors 2,4,6,8 7.5amp
C100 pin K, PINK - key 12v+ feed to Injectors 1,3,5,7 7.5amp

6. C100 pin G, PINK - key 12v+ feed to Coil, Ignition Module 10 amp

7. C220 pin J, Dk Green/White - fuel pump relay control 12v+ connect to one side of relay coil, other side to ground, then wire up your fuel pump with say 15 amp fuse.

8. C230 pin E, dk blue - fuel enable signal - hack stock module or build a unit to defeat it, see my website www.lt1swap.com for info, or have chip modified to delete this option.

that should be it to get it fired up. then you can mess with ses light, cooling fans.

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Post by: Roadkill on January 04, 2008, 06:21:02 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

then you can mess with ses light

Pah, that's not hardcore. Just remove the bulb, job done. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 07, 2008, 09:14:28 am

O.K. According to www.geocities.com/texaslt1/lt1swap/swap.html the motor mounts are the same.

They don't look the same to me but it was dark and they were covered in electrical cr@p and other random "hangy bits".

I'm still keeping the 305ci mounts, though.

It mentions the delete pulley (I'll be hunting for this soon).

It also mentions alot of hoses which need to be kept but doesn't seem to go into much detail . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on January 07, 2008, 09:22:34 am

Quoting: Roadkill

It mentions the delete pulley (I'll be hunting for this soon).

Yeah for the AC removal i would guess

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Post by: Roadkill on January 07, 2008, 10:21:43 am

Quoting: 55starchief

Yeah for the AC removal i would guess

Yeah . . It was a conversation I was having with Fubes . . .

O.K.

LT-1 shopping list . . .

Flywheel.

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_851405_-1

Clutch kit.

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_304390_-1

Hmm . . . . headers . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on January 07, 2008, 10:23:22 am

Have you looked on the RAM online store?

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Post by: ianjpage on January 07, 2008, 10:28:22 am

Quoting: Roadkill

They don't look the same to me but it was dark

Pics are in the gallery if ya wanna look-see

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Post by: Roadkill on January 07, 2008, 10:31:48 am

Quoting: ianjpage

Pics are in the gallery if ya wanna look-see

Yup. They aren't clear.

I'm gonna take the k-member down to the barn on saturday. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Headers.

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_70274_-1

Ceramic coated . . . So they won't rust (that irritates me about mine).

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Post by: Roadkill on January 07, 2008, 10:36:42 am

Quoting: 55starchief

Have you looked on the RAM online store?

Why ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on January 07, 2008, 10:37:33 am

Hmmm thats a lot of money for something you probably wont need if you go the turbo route mate. Im pretty sure that your current headers will fit

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Post by: 55starchief on January 07, 2008, 10:38:01 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Why ?

I think they do a package deal on the clutxh and fly wheel

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Post by: Roadkill on January 07, 2008, 11:02:04 am

Quoting: 55starchief

I think they do a package deal on the clutxh and fly wheel

Only for the LS-1 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Some of their clutches are also only for billet steel flywheels, too.

Shifter, Hurst.

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_745811_-1_10523

Or

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_83414_-1

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Post by: Roadkill on January 07, 2008, 11:09:23 am

Water pump.

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_750516_-1_10135

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

AC delete.

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1002

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Post by: ianjpage on January 07, 2008, 11:10:41 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Yup. They aren't clear.

I'm gonna take the k-member down to the barn on saturday.

ahh gotcha - easiest way to see i spose!!

Hmm i see the ~~bill~~ shopping list is adding up now

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Post by: 55starchief on January 09, 2008, 09:25:44 am

Link Dump for Titsy should we need to hack the LT1 PCM at some point

http://www.akmcables.com/eprom.htm

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Post by: Roadkill on January 13, 2008, 05:52:26 pm

The 305ci has now sold.

The strip-down began yesterday and continued today . . .

Nose cone removed - ready for the crane to move in . . .

Carb / cleaner off, dizzy out, leads removed, headers off, valve covers swapped, rad removed, all eletrics disconnected etc . . .

Just the motor mounts left to unbolt and she's ready to come out.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/picture002.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/picture009.jpg)

The guy's coming over next Sunday to pick up . . he's also after a few other bits I've got . . and paying cash - all good.

Once it's gone I'll be dropping the old front suspension, A-arms, springs, shocks, brakes (ready for the new tubular stuff) then scrubbing down the engine bay and treating it to some POR-15.

The next stage is beginning. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 14, 2008, 08:18:41 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Rob on January 18, 2008, 03:07:38 pm

LT1 induction

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Moroso-Induction-Kit-Camaro-Firebird-93-4th-gen_W0QQitemZ230213381269QQihZ013QQcategoryZ36680QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Post by: Roadkill on January 21, 2008, 07:02:08 pm

Sundays activities :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Bathroom071.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Bathroom072.jpg)

Engine gone. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: F Body on January 21, 2008, 07:41:48 pm

I see your using the Aldi chocks, I haven't used those yet but the axle stands are fine (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 22, 2008, 12:00:39 am

I've only used the stands to support the axle (off of the car).

The chocks have been under the car since august I think, not rusted, nothing - very impressed.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on January 22, 2008, 12:03:04 am

Quoting: Roadkill

The chocks have been under the car since august I think, not rusted, nothing - very impressed.

looks like they needed a little assistance though... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 22, 2008, 12:07:21 am

Quoting: Titsy

looks like they needed a little assistance though...

No the pegs were put there for "absolute" saftey when the car was jacked with no brakes attached.

It didn't once move but I thought it best safe then crushed. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 22, 2008, 04:41:12 pm

Link dump :

Front Spring Isolators : $20

http://www.spohn.net/?action=product&pid=1162

Trans mount : $26

http://www.spohn.net/?action=product&pid=1034

Engine Mount : $50 OR $65

http://www.spohn.net/?action=product&pid=1157 OR http://www.spohn.net/?action=product&pid=1336

Trans Cross member : $115

http://www.spohn.net/?action=product&pid=1178

Hardware : $9

http://www.spohn.net/?action=product&pid=1129

Need to enquire regarding the Propshaft . . . . Maybe a case of fitting engine first.

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Post by: Roadkill on January 22, 2008, 04:49:36 pm

(B-T) Carb : $585

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_360247_-1

OR

Standard Carb : $550

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_97572_-1

Manifold : $260

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_66122_-1

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Post by: 55starchief on January 22, 2008, 05:34:36 pm

You can use the B/T carb in a N/A application (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) its just the floats and seals that are changed over a standard one

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Post by: Roadkill on January 22, 2008, 05:36:01 pm

That's what I though but was gonna email to make sure. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 25, 2008, 08:55:19 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Front Spring Isolators : $20

http://www.spohn.net/?action=product&pid=1162

Edit - checked last night - already have these ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on January 25, 2008, 08:56:55 am

Your cowl induction hood idea, if you wanted to look at the canadian place i found i could be intrested in sharing shipping as they have the fender flares i want for the T/A

http://www.showcars-bodyparts.com/8292cam.html

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Post by: Roadkill on January 25, 2008, 09:08:24 am

Quoting: 55starchief

Your cowl induction hood idea, if you wanted to look at the canadian place i found i could be intrested in sharing shipping as they have the fender flares i want for the T/A

Will look now.

Propshaft $340

http://www.spohn.net/?action=product&pid=1096

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Post by: Roadkill on January 25, 2008, 09:26:08 am

Chevrolet Camaro 82 92 699-28-3 HOOD 2 IN. FUNCTIONAL COWL INDUCTION CAMARO $813.56

The one I was looking at it basically :

http://www.spohn.net/?action=product&pid=1693 @ $499

Not cheap . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on January 25, 2008, 09:30:03 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Chevrolet Camaro 82 92 699-28-3 HOOD 2 IN. FUNCTIONAL COWL INDUCTION CAMARO $813.56

er thats not glass fiber mate thats steel

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Post by: Roadkill on January 25, 2008, 09:58:47 am

Fair point. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

This is the one I'm after (Bolt on) but their descriptions of products are sh!te.

http://www.showcars-bodyparts.com/camaro-82-92hood-cowlindctionHarwood12101.JPG

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Post by: 55starchief on January 25, 2008, 10:28:20 am

LOL your right, the site isnt great but they have so many products its crazy. Probably best to email or call them and ask

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Post by: Roadkill on March 10, 2008, 10:58:11 am

UPDATE

Didn't get alot of time over the weekend but did do a little bit yesterday.

The nose cone and front crash bar has now been removed (again).

The front wheels are off and the car supported on axles stands on the front rails (chocked at the rear).

I started removing bits from the engine bay ready for POR15ing (which arrived this morning, btw).

I removed the earth straps and water containers (over-flow and washer tanks).

The tanks are about 2 years old so will be going back on, however they were a little grubby so while it was raining I popped into the garage and gave them a quick clean. As good as new, now . . . I was surprised to see that the brown stains in the overflow tank actually come off with hot water.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

That's about it.

It looks proper pikey at the moment. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on March 10, 2008, 12:11:05 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It looks proper pikey at the moment.

So nothing new then...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 10, 2008, 01:06:38 pm

Meeooow. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/gayfight.gif)

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Post by: Rob on March 11, 2008, 06:37:08 pm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TURBO-KIT-SMALL-BLOCK-CHEVY_W0QQitemZ320227159485QQihZ011QQcategoryZ100952QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Post by: EDGE on March 11, 2008, 06:39:30 pm

BARGAIN.... odd place for a turbo but NICE

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Post by: FUBAR on March 11, 2008, 06:42:33 pm

that looks cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) wonder what it outputs... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I like their Ceiling mounted Engine display too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on March 11, 2008, 06:42:38 pm

Quoting: EDGE

BARGAIN.... odd place for a turbo but NICE

You can get the twin turbo setup with the intercooler for that price matey

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Post by: EDGE on March 11, 2008, 07:09:28 pm

for £650 ?

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Post by: 55starchief on March 11, 2008, 07:18:37 pm

Quoting: EDGE

for £650 ?

Yup they sell on ebay.com for $1300 and thats everything you need including the boost control and dumps. Okay the turbos wont be a top notch unit but they will last for a while

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Post by: EDGE on March 12, 2008, 10:31:54 am

wow !

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 12, 2008, 10:33:54 am

Quoting: EDGE

wow !

I got out-bidded on one last night . . . that went for £570.

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Post by: EDGE on March 12, 2008, 12:16:31 pm

damn... thats really quite cheap !

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 15, 2008, 01:09:51 pm

UPDATE :

The pile of $hite removed this morning . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Eldo007.jpg)

All of this I have new ones of (except the calipers that are nearly new, anyway).

Next job - Cross member !

But first. Lunch.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/snacking.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on March 15, 2008, 01:36:30 pm

I think i might have some caliper paint at work if you want to paint those up, from memory its silver

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Post by: Roadkill on March 15, 2008, 03:10:28 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Well, days play has ended early due to the weather. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

If I'd have known it was about to p!ss it down I would've skipped lunch and had another hour out there.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Quoting: 55starchief

I think i might have some caliper paint at work if you want to paint those up, from memory its silver

I've got some red caliper paint in the garage. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 16, 2008, 09:36:46 am

F*cking weather.

No chance of getting anything done today.

I got halfway through dropping a shock/A-arm yesterday . . . It's not a good place to leave it.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on March 16, 2008, 09:46:01 am

Weather is lucking pretty crapp for next week as well (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 20, 2008, 08:20:14 am

(Kind of an) UPDATE :

Tuesday night I measured up for some blanking plates for the firewall in the engine bay to plug the many holes there left by the departure of the Air Con / Heater / pipes etc . . .

Wednesday I cut them and cleaned them at work.

Last night I primered them both sides ready for fitting / final coat of POR15. (They'll be Pop-riveted in place as I haven't got time to mess about welding and obviously none of it is structural).

This morning the new steering box arrived - With NO TAX or DUTY CHARGES !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Result ! - The box was damaged but the part looks fine with a brief inspection.

A little concerned over the bearings . . . I ordered these first and they're not here yet . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: 55starchief on March 20, 2008, 08:28:44 am

If your going to rivet them in place put them on the inside and skim over with some filler for a smooth firewall finish (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 20, 2008, 08:58:46 am

If it was a show car I would. But it's not. So I'm not gonna bother.

At the end of the day the firewall isn't flat anyway so there's not much point. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on March 20, 2008, 10:43:07 am

If you want i can grab the air riviter from the body shop and should be able to get across sunday with the little compressor to pu those plates on super tight (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 20, 2008, 12:18:23 pm

I mainly need a angle drill, to be honest . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on March 20, 2008, 12:20:11 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I mainly need a angle drill, to be honest . . . .

Well i have one of those (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) i will grab the rivgun just incase as its a lot easier than the hand type ones.

I hope to be done by sunday on my motor so i can spare you some time (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 20, 2008, 01:37:34 pm

No worries. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: 55starchief on March 20, 2008, 03:32:38 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

i will grab the rivgun

Sorted (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

No worries.

okies

If you need the drill and rivgun before just shout im sure shifty will be coming my way

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Post by: Roadkill on March 20, 2008, 09:18:56 pm

The angle drill will definately be appreciated - is he over there anytime soon ?

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Post by: 55starchief on March 20, 2008, 09:20:25 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

The angle drill will definately be appreciated - is he over there anytime soon ?

I think he might be over tomorrow

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Post by: Roadkill on March 20, 2008, 09:28:34 pm

Could you pass the drill on to him - and the charger, please ?

Also mention that I'll need my grinder back (no doubt) for this weekend (if all goes to plan). Obviously he can borrow it back after.

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Post by: Roadkill on March 21, 2008, 06:36:10 pm

UPDATE.

Cross member's out !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Cheers to Ryan and Ian for assistance and to my human balast (you know who you are).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Eldo013.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Eldo012.jpg)

Hopefully get out there tomorrow and do some cleaning ready for POR15'ing.

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Post by: F Body on March 21, 2008, 07:19:37 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Cross member's out !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Good to see that you have tied the bonnet down, I know it's dam heavy but if the wind got under it, the results would be unpleasant (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on March 21, 2008, 08:14:55 pm

i bet that took some jiggling to get out (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

nice one looking forward to the po15 pics

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on March 21, 2008, 08:39:25 pm

nice one lads....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
well done ballast boy.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 22, 2008, 11:58:02 am

Quoting: art b

well done ballast boy.....

Ballast boyS, actually. The springs proved harder to remove then first thought - the spring compressor bottomed out way too early so I had to compress the top end against the A-Arm . . tie the springs down with nylon rope, disconnect the shocks then position a jack underneath the ball-joint.

Next the compressor was released and removed and the jack lowered until it bottomed out. Then, with ballast on the front, the jack was pulled out and the spring (partly compressed) was levered out with a length of timber and rope.

The the compressors were applied again to remove the nylon rope !

Was long winded but went smoothly. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Gator

i bet that took some jiggling to get out

Chris, Titsy, PhilO and Ian lifted the front of the car up while Myself and Ryan shuffled the cross member out from under the car.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

A bit pikey - but we had the man-power so why not ?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

As soon as it was sitting back on the stands the heavens opened which marked the end of play.

Good day, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2008, 11:05:14 am

UPDATE :

Yet more crap removed from the engine bay . . . in between snow/sleet storms, yesterday, of course !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

The rest of the brake/fuel lines have been dropped and removed . . . the loom has been unclipped and moved away . . the upper strut mounts have been removed . . . the bonnet pull removed . . fuel regulator removed . . and some plates added to the firewall.

All that's left to do is remove the old steering box and then I can begin scrubbing down the engine bay ready for POR15'ing.

Unfortunately, and obviously, the POR25'ing can only be done when the weather is a little more settled . . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I've got to remove the old spindles from the cross member still (they're being re-used) so that'll be a bit of fun at some point soon . . . .

I've also now got a mini-mountain of rusty old crap to get rid of.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on March 23, 2008, 11:22:49 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I've also now got a mini-mountain of rusty old crap to get rid of.

scraps worth a fortune, or you could just bury it.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2008, 11:28:53 am

Quoting: art b

or you could just bury it.....

The(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/doggie.gif)in me is leaning that way. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2008, 05:55:11 pm

No progress today as we were round Sammy's Mums . . .

Will re-group and re-assess in the morning . . . . . I'm hoping it gets warmer as it's bitter out there at the mo - even though it's fairly bright . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on March 23, 2008, 06:21:39 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Myself and Ryan shuffled the cross member out from under the car

Yeah that git is heavy! 1 person lift tho if you balance & lift it right (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/gym.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 24, 2008, 11:05:11 am

Well.

Weather report said Sun / partly cloudy today . . . . . It's been snowing up to now but it's just started clearing . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on March 24, 2008, 08:09:29 pm

ANNOUNCING MINI PROJECT - MAKE MYSELF FEEL BETTER ABOUT SPENDING ALL THAT MONEY !!!

Basically I just readied the old stuff for throwing away and compared it to the new shiny things !

It's a feel-good mini-project before re-assembling the front end . . . . The pictures speak volumes . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zeez001.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zeez002.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zeez003.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zeez004.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zeez005.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zeez007.jpg)

Finally a real bit of work (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) I mimiced the old steering gear lengths so when the new ones go on the geometry won't be a million miles of.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zeez006.jpg)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 24, 2008, 08:18:17 pm

And now for the real days work.

Obviously, yet again, the morning was lost to snow. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

I finally got out there and begun at gone 1pm.

Firstly cutting off / unbolting (as required) the old spindles from the A-Arms then cutting off the struts.

Result - more bite-sized pieces of scrap and two free spindles ready for cleaning / shot blasting.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zeez012.jpg)

Next I removed the splash guards in the front wheel arches and inspected . . . . surprisingly little rust - just some minor surface stuff in a couple of areas.

Next I attacked the steering box. The first two main bolts came out easy . . . the next one was a bast@rd and a half as the head of the bolt was covered by a (battery tray ?) support which didn't want to come off - plus the head of it was rusted to F*ck.

So I took a break and tidyied the garage for a while . . . then went back to it.

Long story short, with minutes of daylight left I got the 'box free !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zeez010.jpg)

That's it, now - everything's cleared from the engine bay and surrounding areas . . . Next job is a good clean and brush-down prior to POR15'ing.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zeez011.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zeez009.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zeez008.jpg)

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Post by: Gator on March 24, 2008, 08:33:06 pm

nice work there matey i really think you need to get rid of that hood it doesnt suit it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

btw you can paint por15 in damp weather, in fact they say it sticks better (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on March 24, 2008, 08:37:08 pm

Quoting: Gator

btw you can paint por15 in damp weather, in fact they say it sticks better

yup they say it cures harder, says so on the tin

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 25, 2008, 08:09:53 am

Quoting: Gator

you can paint por15 in damp weather, in fact they say it sticks better

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Sweet. Am away this coming weekend but will attack the weekend after. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on March 25, 2008, 08:38:39 am

looking good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 02, 2008, 07:47:08 pm

Announcing a pending update !

Pictures of shiny things will follow. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on April 02, 2008, 09:10:28 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Rob on April 03, 2008, 06:32:38 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Pictures of shiny things will follow

Martyn's got his fly's undone already.......(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 03, 2008, 08:35:57 am

O.K.

Change of plan - Instead of going back outside and finishing what I was working on I went to the Hospital where I was told I had pleurisy !!!

It's O.K, though - It's only (extremely) painful when you breathe ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Dispite the discomfort and pain, I've kind of found the whole thing kinda funny.

Don't ask, I don't know.

I'm on anti-imflamatories (sp) now so am hoping I'll be back to "normal" soon.

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Post by: ianjpage on April 03, 2008, 08:41:29 am

Ahh bloody eck not good then really (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

hope it gets better soon mate!!

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Post by: Incursus on April 03, 2008, 10:39:38 am

Quoting: Roadkill

pleurisy !!!

ooo I've had that 4-5 years ago, only mild though anti-imflamatories sorted it no problem.

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Post by: F Body on April 03, 2008, 11:39:48 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm on anti-imflamatories (sp)

Should gone for the anti-erotics , Management has been on them for years (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Quoting: ianjpage

hope it gets better soon mate!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on April 03, 2008, 12:12:24 pm

Quoting: Rob

Quoting: Roadkill
Pictures of shiny things will follow

Martyn's got his fly's undone already.......

heh heh (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) man thats funny

but then i tget the mental image and the laughter stops

Dean bummer mate hope you get yourself sorted quick

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on April 03, 2008, 12:29:12 pm

Quoting: Gator

but then i tget the mental image and the laughter stops

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 03, 2008, 12:34:50 pm

Quoting: Gator

Dean bummer mate hope you get yourself sorted quick

Cheers.

To be honest I've kinda got used to it . . . . I was breathing so lightly in bed last night Sammy woke me up cos she thought I'd died !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

But. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

I feel crap but am doing a few light jobs here and there - the doctor advised some light activities and stretching but rest when it became an issue.
Thankfully it's no where near as bad as it was last night but it's certainly draining . . . . Walking up and downstairs is enough to make me slightly dizzy at the mo . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on April 03, 2008, 12:57:15 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I was told I had pleurisy !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Ouch, hope you get better soon m8, sounds like it sucks (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 03, 2008, 01:44:10 pm

Back on topic . . . For info - related threads.

Pitman Arm issues . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/devil.gif)

http://www.mkb.cc/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=3&topic=6769

Nut polishing . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

http://www.mkb.cc/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=2&topic=6825

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 03, 2008, 02:29:18 pm

WORK FROM LAST NIGHT (when I thought I was O.K, but turns out was really ill) and some FROM TODAY !

Spindles (and sway bar bush mounts) : (See pic above for "before")

Shot-blasted, degreased and masked . . ready for a light coat of Red oxide.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed001.jpg)

After Red oxiding, two coats of Upol was added to help give a smoother finish and help fill-in casting pits.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed003.jpg)

One final coat of primer to give the correct colour-base for the Colorado Red paint . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed009.jpg)

Pitman Arm : (See above for "before" pic)

Missed the shot-blasters, unfortunately so shown here heated-cleaned, scrubbed and degreased.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed005.jpg)

After initial coat of Red oxide base and two coats of Upol.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed007.jpg)

Steering 'Box : This was new/reconned.

Picture taken after shot blasting (it came supplied in the thinnest, sh!ttiest coat of paint I've seen - no good to paint-over).
It's also been scrubbed and degreased. Masked, ready for first coat of 'Oxide.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed011.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on April 03, 2008, 02:36:45 pm

looking good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 03, 2008, 03:25:23 pm

FURTHER UPDATE . . . . .

Steering box :

After first coat of primer and a further two coats of Upol.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed014.jpg)

(Just) taken after last coat of primer . . now waiting for first coat of paint.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed017.jpg)

Spindles :

FINISHED !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed015.jpg)

Pitman Arm :

FINISHED !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed016.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on April 03, 2008, 03:42:56 pm

looks like a productive day all in then!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 03, 2008, 08:54:35 pm

FINAL PARTS FINISHED . . .

Sway Bar Brackets :

Finished !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed020.jpg)

Steering Box :

Finished ! - Shown with very wet paint . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed021.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed024.jpg)

I'm happy. It's been a productive, yet relaxing day.

I'm feeling better - but still rough . . . I should be O.K to go back to work tomorrow.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on April 03, 2008, 10:44:23 pm

FAO Deano...

will these fit the LT1?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/small-block-chevy-stainless-headers-camaro-etc_W0QQitemZ170207653542QQihZ007QQcategoryZ38786QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Says collection only, but with a show coming up soon there must be someone up in that neck of the woods who would collect for you if needed...

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 04, 2008, 08:13:32 am

Quoting: FUBAR

will these fit the LT1?

Probably - but no good for (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/turbo.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/turbo.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on April 04, 2008, 12:48:37 pm

Oh yeah I forgot about that (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/homer.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 10, 2008, 07:46:23 pm

Got a little bit done tonight so . . . UPDATE ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Yet more stuff removed from the engine bay . . . . Yep, I'm getting carried away . . . .

Needless to say all stuff removed will be cleaned and painted before replacing . . . . except the clutch - I'll obviuosly need a LT1 variant.

So. Stuff removed. Brake unions and reservior, wiper motor, lower steering column section and (finally after much hassle involving a C-Clip) the clutch slave/reservior assembly.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Eldo032.jpg)

The engine bay now-ish (note the clutch assembly still in place . . a later photo was taken but the light had faded by then.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Eldo029.jpg)

Note - patches of red over the strut areas. On removing the old strut towers I noticed some minor surface rust. So these areas were sanded back to good bare metal and primered. The other areas primered were the plates fitted to the firewall and a few areas of exposed body work revealed on removing parts from the 'bay.

The last things to be removed before treating will be the brake booster (4 nuts - need a long-reach socket) and the loom (If I can - see other thread).

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on April 10, 2008, 08:30:39 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 12, 2008, 02:44:07 pm

More stuff (brake booster) removed last night - didn't have much time but also removed that Loom connector . . . will feed out the loom today/tomoorw and take a final pic of the utterly empty engine bay.

It looks weird . . . and kinda scary. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

Still, this is the lowest possible point in the project and I'm still feeling very good about it and very motivated.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Once the engine bay has been prepped and POR15'ed there'll be no stopping me. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/headbang.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on April 12, 2008, 09:56:11 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Once the engine bay has been prepped and POR15'ed there'll be no stopping me

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 13, 2008, 09:05:39 pm

Truly the last bits removed from the engine bay today - loom, radiator mounting rubbers and loom clips.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/cgh0022.jpg)

Unfortunately too wet to start anything else . . . So -

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/cgh0023.jpg)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 27, 2008, 07:56:12 pm

A full day at it yesterday.

Don't get me wrong - it doesn't look much different but alot was done.

The engine bay, under both arches and all around the core support were cleaned twice, then degreased.

Then any areas requiring (surface rust) attention (core support, underside of battery tray, top of chassis rail under steering column) were wire brushed down, treated with metal ready, rinsed, degreased and primed.

Then the whole engine bay was gone-around with a tooth-pick to remove all the 25 year old crap built up in the nooks and crannies and where over-lapped spot-welded panels meet.

Then the whole area was degreased AGAIN and thoroughly brushed down.

The remaining bits were vacuumed away and the whole bay saw the Dyson.

Next any areas bare (or close to) were primered then all the seams (and awkward bits) saw a spray of under-body guard.

It's now (with a quick brush and vacuum) ready for POR15ing.

This was a horrible job. My hands are still black - but Beer got me through.

Hurrah !

(PICTURES TAKEN BEFORE SEAMS WERE SPRAYED)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zeetw001.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zeetw002.jpg)

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Post by: Gator on April 27, 2008, 08:01:47 pm

takes forever to clean up the crap dont it

you can tell by the pic its a lot cleaner every thing looks more defined and sharper good work

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Post by: Roadkill on April 27, 2008, 08:04:57 pm

Me and Graeme were also eyeing up the possibility of running the exhaust pipes over the front arches (behind the fenders) to exit behind the front wheels today, too.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Not loads of room - but do-able.

It's gonna get crowded real quick in there once the Turbos go in . . .

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Post by: Gator on April 27, 2008, 08:23:28 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Me and Graeme were also eyeing up the possibility of running the exhaust pipes over the front arches (behind the fenders) to exit behind the front wheels today, too.

tricky (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) wouldnt it be a lot easier to just do 2 short pipes and pop them through the fender behind the wheel

or isnt it about being easier (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 28, 2008, 07:15:37 am

Quoting: Gator

wouldnt it be a lot easier to just do 2 short pipes and pop them through the fender behind

Well - the turbo manifolds point forwards . . leaving the exhausts in front of the motor . . . I could run them back underneath - but it'll be cool to hide them, too.

We'll see.

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Post by: Gator on April 28, 2008, 07:24:48 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Well - the turbo manifolds point forwards . . leaving the exhausts in front of the motor . . . I could run them back underneath - but it'll be cool to hide them, too.

We'll see.

aaaah your way would be the way to do it then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on April 28, 2008, 07:25:43 am

Quoting: Gator

Quoting: Roadkill
Well - the turbo manifolds point forwards . . leaving the exhausts in front of the motor . . . I could run them back underneath - but it'll be cool to hide them, too.

We'll see.

aaaah your way would be the way to do it then

Yeah and really confuse people when they see the pipe vanish into the front fender LOL

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Post by: Roadkill on April 28, 2008, 07:45:53 am

Just ordered yet more POR15 . . . on next day delivery.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

:skint:

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 28, 2008, 09:41:36 am

Quoting: Roadkill

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

:skint:

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Great.

That TT kit has just gone back up on eBay . . . seems it's listed every 4-6 weeks or so.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: 55starchief on April 28, 2008, 09:44:47 am

Quoting: Roadkill

That TT kit has just gone back up on eBay . . . seems it's listed every 4-6 weeks or so.

Typical

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Post by: Roadkill on April 28, 2008, 07:35:15 pm

Thought I'd take advantage of a reasonable evening and start the POR15'ing.

Just under two hours got the front wheel arches and the underside of the battery trays done.

No pics as my hands were numb when I'd finished and it was getting dark.

Fingers crossed tomorrow evening's as good so I can carry on.

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Post by: Gator on April 28, 2008, 08:07:42 pm

Dean i have noticed that POR15 goes on much better/easier on a warm day

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on April 28, 2008, 10:09:50 pm

all looking.... very un-dean like....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on April 29, 2008, 06:50:29 am

Quoting: art b

all looking.... very un-dean like....

This is new Dean, he even does (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/polish.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 29, 2008, 07:17:01 am

Quoting: Gator

Dean i have noticed that POR15 goes on much better/easier on a warm day

Agreed.

It was fairly warm when I started (T-Shirt weather) but after an hour or so my hands did get alittle numb.

I purposely stopped earlier than I could've because I knew another half hour and it would've started getting difficult.

Quoting: art b

all looking.... very un-dean like....

There's a time for quick, cheap fixes and a time for well thought-out, decent work.

The Z28 is a case of the latter.

I'm no cowboy - Only I appreciate that not every car/job/task requires my full attention . . . if it did I'd truly have no time for anything as I am a ~~perfectionist~~ idealist.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 29, 2008, 06:26:23 pm

F*cking rain. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

No POR15ing tonight. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Still I've now identified all the "bolt kits" from Spohn ready for (hopefully) a busy weekend rebuilding. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I've also got a few old bits (which need to be re-used) soaking in rust remover at the moment . . I'll hopefully plate them before the weekend.

Also my two uber tins of POR15 arrived from Frost today . . . but I'm starting to think I could've gotten away with one - based on how far a baby tin went last night . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Oh well. A mixed evening . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on April 29, 2008, 06:29:00 pm

POR15 metal ready is awesome at disolving rust mate

im starting to sound like a bloody por15 ad man but tis good stuff

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Post by: Roadkill on April 30, 2008, 07:33:54 am

That's what I've been using. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Used it to successfully separate some rusty brake fittings. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on April 30, 2008, 11:59:51 am

I've got that stuff too, its awesome.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 30, 2008, 09:07:44 pm

Got a bit more POR15'ing done - P/S inner fender / P/S battery tray - then it started raining so I had to shut the bonnet on myself, lay on my back and finish off the underside of the P/S chassis rail that way !

My legs got wet poking out but I went on 'til it started getting hard to see.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Slowly, slowly . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on April 30, 2008, 09:23:06 pm

put some por15 in a plastic cup a couple of mm deep and break it out when it dries you will get to see how strong it is (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on May 01, 2008, 11:35:10 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Also my two uber tins of POR15 arrived from Frost today . . . but I'm starting to think I could've gotten away with one - based on how far a baby tin went last night . . .

gator will buy it.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 01, 2008, 08:58:54 pm

A full night of it tonight. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I'm going back out there soon . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on May 01, 2008, 10:31:22 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Also my two uber tins of POR15 arrived from Frost today . . . but I'm starting to think I could've gotten away with one - based on how far a baby tin went last night . . .

Any good for my axle???

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 02, 2008, 07:27:39 am

Quoting: Titsy

Any good for my axle???

Maybe. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 02, 2008, 07:40:35 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Maybe.

Might be worth me bunging you some greenback for what you have left then....

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Post by: Roadkill on May 02, 2008, 07:48:57 am

I'll see how much is left . . . . It's a pity you didn't mention it earlier as I would've hit the bigger can and left the smaller one(s).

It's a pig to paint awkward items, though . . . . . I must admit if I were POR15 an engine bay again (which I will be) I'd look into spraying it . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 02, 2008, 07:29:46 pm

UPDATE to cover the last few nights . . . (Pictures taken this evening)

No, the engine bay isn't 100% finished so you can resist saying "missed a bit". (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

D/S Arch

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/por002.jpg)

P/S Arch

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/por001.jpg)

'Bay. Tanks refitted.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/por004.jpg)

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Post by: 55starchief on May 02, 2008, 07:31:45 pm

Looks great (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on May 02, 2008, 09:19:25 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

Looks great

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Post by: art b on May 02, 2008, 10:31:01 pm

looks like youve been busy....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 02, 2008, 10:43:32 pm

Tomorrow should see the POR15'ing completed and the first batch of front-end shiny things going in.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on May 03, 2008, 05:33:17 am

Quoting: Roadkill

the first batch of front-end shiny things going in.

Looking good, we likes shiny (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/polish.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on May 03, 2008, 08:06:36 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) it aint going to rust

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Post by: Roadkill on May 03, 2008, 07:11:08 pm

Todays progress. Thanks to all involved.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/frontend012.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/frontend013.jpg)

Just gotta get the idler arm and steering links / tie rods on tomorrow then the wheels can go back on !

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Post by: Roadkill on May 03, 2008, 07:12:49 pm

P.S.

Yes, it ALL fitted, no drilling or butchering.

Yet again, Spohn come with my full recommendation.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

EDIT

Struts are Tokico, Springs are Eibach, spindles are stock GM - everything else was Spohn or Spohn supplied.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: EDGE on May 03, 2008, 07:19:30 pm

lookin good dude...... lookin good

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Post by: art b on May 03, 2008, 07:58:40 pm

all looks very nice..... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on May 03, 2008, 09:39:32 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Yes, it ALL fitted, no drilling or butchering.

Yet again, Spohn come with my full recommendation.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Fieldy on May 03, 2008, 09:42:42 pm

niiiice....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on May 03, 2008, 09:51:48 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) great work people (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)looks ace

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 04, 2008, 11:08:38 am

Going back out in a minute to (hopefully) get the steering links and rods on . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on May 05, 2008, 09:28:09 am

bank holiday FTW....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 05, 2008, 10:31:36 am

Steering on but the idler arm is really a two-man job so that'll be being done a bit later.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Pics to follow, obviously. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 05, 2008, 08:15:19 pm

Todays work - thanks Ryan :

All steering links on, idler & pitman on, roughly tracked (Most bits finger-tight at the moment), wheels re-fitted and dropped back to the floor.

The rest of the engine bay has now been completed with POR15.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/headbang.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/frontend2005.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/frontend2007.jpg)

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Post by: Gator on May 05, 2008, 08:28:12 pm

i bet you cant stop looking at it can ya ?

very nice so its not far off an engine going in then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 05, 2008, 08:31:31 pm

Quoting: Gator

i bet you cant stop looking at it can ya ?

No comment. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: Gator

its not far off an engine going in

Yes and no.

There's still a lot of work to do over summer but the engine will be being brought back to Castle Roadkill this month for semi-teardown and inspection . . . . And paint, obviously.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on May 05, 2008, 09:45:46 pm

looking very good mate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 17, 2008, 01:22:45 pm

The LT-1 (along with the T56) has now been moved to Castle Roadkill for inspection and "rebuild" (Cheers Ian (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif) ).

I use "" as nothing is being uprated YET except the oil pan and the fact that all the injection crap is being torn off.

Pictures will follow . . . I'll probably start tearing into it tomorrow at some point.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on May 17, 2008, 08:17:35 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Cheers Ian

No problems mate - thanks for your help in removing the window motors (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: art b on May 18, 2008, 10:09:51 am

nice one (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
that garage is like a clowns pocket.... the amount of stuff you squeeze into it...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 18, 2008, 10:51:59 am

Stripped off the exhaust manifolds, loom, air con, alternator and FI manifold last night.

There's a F*cking engine underneath all that crap !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Will be rotating the assembly, removing a few more bits topside then attacking the bottom end.

Mental note - drain oil first. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on May 18, 2008, 11:19:20 am

More bits for ebay then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 18, 2008, 09:02:27 pm

Quick picture round-up of this weekends work . . .

The LT1 - moved saturday morning.

Looks F*cking frightening like that. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Mis007.jpg)

Mid way through - the HEI test-fitted. Totally alien to the LT1. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Mis010.jpg)

The Aftermath ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Mis014.jpg)

A cools video - by request. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/th_Mis025.jpg)

Have now cleared up a HELL of a lot . . . Not managed to get everything sorted yet . . . there's still crap everywhere . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on May 18, 2008, 09:16:56 pm

cool strip down is always fun and you have one of them totaly ace tool cabinets (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) a mechanic i know has the huge one must be 6 ft by 5 ft high

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Post by: ianjpage on May 18, 2008, 10:09:12 pm

blimey good days work there then!!

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Post by: art b on May 18, 2008, 10:19:47 pm

looks like an explosion in a parts store...! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 26, 2008, 04:13:24 pm

Wow. Haven't updated this in weeks !

Well, US trip aside, things have progressed - the block is now cleaned, de-burred (yes, that's right) and sprayed dark blue.

I started cleaning the heads last night, one done, before I ran out of gunk.

Pictures have been taken but my PC is toast.

Also, apparently, PhilO is blanking off the Optispark and water pump holes in my timing cover . . . . . apparently I was supposed to get the cover back on Tuesday . . . Philo ?

That's it for now.

Next thing what needs to happen before the motor goes back together is I need to decide if I'm upgrading the rockers or not . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I need to get on ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Self-(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/slap.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on June 26, 2008, 04:26:02 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Also, apparently, PhilO is blanking off the Optispark and water pump holes in my timing cover . . . . . apparently I was supposed to get the cover back on Tuesday . . . Philo

Tis sat here waiting for Sammy to pick up tonight (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 27, 2008, 07:30:35 am

Yup, got it now - looks good. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Cheers, PhilO. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on June 27, 2008, 08:03:52 am

keep up the good work...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on June 27, 2008, 11:26:22 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Yup, got it now - looks good.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 27, 2008, 02:55:52 pm

I know, I know . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on June 27, 2008, 06:32:52 pm

going to be a corker when its all done.

wish i had half of the time, space, wedge and inclination that you have (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 30, 2008, 07:44:04 am

Both cylinder heads now stripped, scrubbed, cleaned and degreased.

Valves removed and guides checked. All appears O.K.

Will be ordering new springs, retainer and locks - with new rockers later.

Pics to follow !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 30, 2008, 08:39:35 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Will be ordering new springs, retainer and locks - with new rockers later.

Ordered. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on June 30, 2008, 08:45:24 am

pics (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 30, 2008, 09:21:02 am

Quoting: CJ-IROCZ

pics

Tonight. Hopefully. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 30, 2008, 07:59:49 pm

O.K - Pictures !

Firstly the block :

I said I deburred the block . . . I meant it ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Before :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/CIMG3506.jpg)

After :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/CIMG3507.jpg)

Pre-paint (note the shiny parts are the deburred areas) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/CIMG3509.jpg)

In Paint . . . Ironically in "Ford Dark Blue" :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/CIMG3514.jpg)

Next . . . the pile of parts I "smuggled" back from the States . . (note iPod shuffle in amongst the car parts).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/CIMG4019.jpg)

A head being cleaned . . . :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/CIMG4026.jpg)

A very dirty sink . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/CIMG4028.jpg)

The engine and heads right now . . heads stripped of valves - awaiting new parts . . . :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/CIMG4029.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: 55starchief on June 30, 2008, 08:06:08 pm

Looking good matey, thse heads came up real nice. I trust your leaving them un painted?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 30, 2008, 08:09:54 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

I trust your leaving them un painted?

Yup. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: 55starchief on June 30, 2008, 08:12:42 pm

Sweet, i would consider painting the valve covers though for contrast, or powdercoat

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 30, 2008, 08:20:09 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

i would consider painting the valve covers though

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I've got something very, very special lined up with regards to the valve covers . . .

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: 55starchief on June 30, 2008, 08:22:26 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I've got something very, very special lined up with regards to the valve covers . . .

lol really, not those windowed ones we see in america (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 30, 2008, 10:03:41 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

really, not those windowed ones we see in america

No, but the words "one off" and "custom fabrication" are involved.

Funds are low after splashing out on the springs and rockers, though, so I may have to pass on them . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jo on June 30, 2008, 10:11:57 pm

Looking real good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 01, 2008, 08:16:08 am

An incomplete list of parts still required to complete the drive-train . . . :

Valve Covers.
Starter motor.
Carb.
Propshaft . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I think that's basically it . . . Valve covers and Starter are the priority . . .

EDIT :

Starter - GM Performance :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170229967067&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us

Valve Covers :

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Prop Shaft

http://www.spohn.net/?action=product&pid=1096

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on July 01, 2008, 08:37:09 am

are you going to go for one of those mini starter jobbies, my old man has just brought one for his Pontiac, aparrantly they turn like a bastard (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on July 01, 2008, 08:38:31 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Did i miss that link or did you edit it while I was writing my reply (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 01, 2008, 08:48:50 am

Quoting: CJ-IROCZ

are you going to go for one of those mini starter jobbies

Yup, I need the extra clearance for headers . . . I had one on the 305ci with no problems.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 01, 2008, 08:51:07 am

Quoting: CJ-IROCZ

Did i miss that link or did you edit it while I was writing my reply

You must be going (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

Nah, I editted it. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on July 01, 2008, 09:28:00 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on July 01, 2008, 10:52:20 am

Quoting: Roadkill

You must be going

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 01, 2008, 09:30:15 pm

Tonights job - not very glamourous I'm affraid - cleaning !

Well, preparing parts for shot-blasting and cleaning those which are not being blasted.

13 years of grease and crap. Mmmm, yummy.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Still . . . it'll give me more bits to paint, soon. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on July 01, 2008, 09:40:19 pm

Still looking for the exploded view.... But from Meziere:

Disassembly
Remove factory water pump housing. Remove the six-bolt inspection cover. Clean the mounting surface on the housing
and the engine block. At this point the stock mechanical pump components must be removed from the housing (i.e.
impeller and bearing / seal assy.). Some technical experience is required. If you do not have access to the proper equipment
or feel unqualified, please consult an automotive machine shop for help in completing this part of the job.
Place the housing face up in the hydraulic press resting the gasket surface centered on the shaft. It is necessary to support
the back of the pump housing near the water neck to prevent it from rocking back when force is applied by the press. Use a
pin or dowel (about 5/16 x 1 ½) to press the bearing assembly out of the impeller and housing.

Assembly
Clean the bearing bore and install the supplied freeze plug from the inside of the pump use Permatex Form A Gasket or
Loctite Sleeve/Bearing retainer on the bore. You may choose to plug some of the factory water ports at this time. Now you
are ready to reinstall the pump housing, the Meziere pump can be mounted before or after the pump housing is installed on
the engine. Use recommended sealant on the factory-mounting gasket. No sealant is used on the o-ring seal grease or
Vaseline can be used to lubricate the o-ring to prevent pinching or twisting. Reuse the factory inspection cover bolts to
attach the Meziere pump (do not over tighten).

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on July 01, 2008, 09:59:36 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Still looking for the exploded view....

Sorry RK, they don't have one an alldata... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 01, 2008, 10:10:18 pm

ok, that makes sense.. i'll press it out and weld the redundant holes tomorrow..
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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 01, 2008, 10:15:07 pm

This link is a bit clearer . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

http://www.projecttransam.com/projects9.asp

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 01, 2008, 10:43:23 pm

cool, excellent..

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on July 02, 2008, 06:44:50 am

Quoting: Titsy

Vaseline can be used to lubricate the o-ring to prevent pinching or twisting

What ever you say (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/gay.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on July 02, 2008, 07:50:45 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on July 02, 2008, 11:48:14 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

I should have read that before posting...

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 02, 2008, 04:38:59 pm

TODAYS PROGRESS (while at work) :

I've been heavily researching ancillary arrangements / pulleys / set ups.

Basically I wanted to reposition the alternater . . but that doesn't look possible unless I lose the power steering pump - so I'll be keeping the stock set up, except for a underdrive main pulley.

The replacement pulley should be good for a few Bhp and as I'm running minimal electrical-demanding items will be ideal.

I've found the pulley I'm after and it'll be brought at the same time as the mini-starter.

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Tonights jobs are to continue getting stuff prepared for 'blasting.

Also, I'm hoping PhilO will be bringing back my water pump housing, freshly capped off, ready for the Meziere to be fitted.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 02, 2008, 05:43:50 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Also, I'm hoping PhilO will be bringing back my water pump housing, freshly capped off, ready for the Meziere to be fitted.

indeed i will, as its sat here all finished right now! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 02, 2008, 10:05:59 pm

Big upz to my home boy, PhilO, for sorting the water pump housing . . . I've now hammered home the blanking plug and it's been added to the 'blasting pile . . .

Spent the evening, as planned, cleaning and masking up parts for 'blasting . . now have a fair few bits to do.

The plan is to get it blasted and start painting it Friday . . . . PhilO has once more answered the challenge and is picking me up some more paint tomorrow.

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More parts to add to the needed list :

Underdrive main pulley,
Oil filter,
Thermostat.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on July 02, 2008, 10:10:11 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I've now hammered home the blanking plug and it's been added to the 'blasting pile . . .

I thought the water pump housing was aluminium.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 02, 2008, 10:10:55 pm

It is. Your point ?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on July 02, 2008, 10:13:47 pm

I thought sand blasting aluminium was a no no... I've been told it will go through like butter...

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 02, 2008, 10:16:08 pm

Nah, it's not that bad.

I plan to paint all the parts that are getting blasted so am doing it as a form of a) cleaning and b) providing good adhesion.

The ally parts aren't terribly dirty so a quick "going over" will be fine. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: 55starchief on July 02, 2008, 10:19:47 pm

Nope i have sandblasted aluminum wih no problems, i have had wheels and intakes done

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 02, 2008, 11:00:17 pm

yup, its quite possible.. media blasting (ironically made from old toilet seats, well the material anyway) or walnut shell is best, but sand or glass can be used.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2008, 08:18:55 am

Info dump :

12551589 Oil Filter Adapter gasket
10244495 Oil Filter Adapter o-ring
14090908 Oil cooler tube seals (2)

20-10108689 LT1 Cylinder Head Coolant Tube Seal (4 required)
http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog/?action=categories&pcid=227

http://shbox.com/1/steam_pipe_seal.jpg
1993-1997 coolant steam pipe seals 10108689 $3.00
1993-1997 T56 flywheel housing cover 10241153 $3.48

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on July 03, 2008, 10:15:57 am

Would love to see a financial running total(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: 55starchief on July 03, 2008, 10:17:12 am

Any luck on the headers?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2008, 10:53:02 am

Quoting: CJ-IROCZ

Would love to see a financial running total

I wouldn't ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

I'm in denial. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: 55starchief

Any luck on the headers?

Yes and No.

I've sent Spohn another email but Holley have got back to me with their Hooker 2210's . . which'll fit but reduce ground clearance . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2008, 09:57:19 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/bump.gif) - For Carl. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)

UPDATE :

Got the stuff shot-blasted today - very happy bunny - a large box full of stuff done, on the spot - no waiting FOR A TENNER !

I gave the guy £15 and said I didn't want to rob him !

Anyway, It all survived just fine, no damage - I unmasked it then picked out a few bits, re-degreased them, masked them and went to town with the remaining paint I had.

PhilO will hopefully be bringing some more round soon so I can continue spraying tomorrow - PICS TO FOLLOW.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2008, 10:49:58 pm

Some pictures . . . .

Stuff before blasting . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Picture005.jpg)

Stuff after blasting (all done for £15 !!) . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Picture007-1.jpg)

Another little job tonight - remove the water pump driveshaft . . .

Before :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Picture011.jpg)

After :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Picture012.jpg)

Painting in progress :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Picture014.jpg)

More tomorrow . . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2008, 11:02:01 pm

Note.

PhilO had kindly polished the timing cover at his work after welding bungs in the old water pump and Optispark holes . . . Unfortunately the casting wasn't fine enough to support polishing and, after thinking about it, I decided it'd be better to paint it . . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Thanks, yet again, to PhilO for tonight running me round some more paint so I can continue painting parts tomorrow.

Cheers, PhilO (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: philoldsmobile on July 03, 2008, 11:31:29 pm

no worries dude..

i did wonder about the timing cover, as the standard casting was crap, and there was a noticeable colour difference between the HE30 bar, and the cast cover, good call on painting it, i think i'd have done the same thing myself (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 04, 2008, 07:58:37 am

T'is going well, but unfortunately (as most Fridays here go) we're rushed off of our feet today so am unlikely to get any painting done at work today (the cheek of it !).

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Still - I got a head start yesterday and using a heat gun got the parts heated up nicely and the paint dried fast.

I hope to finish the rest of the "Blue" parts tonight, then crack on with the Black parts first thing tomorrow . . . .

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 04, 2008, 06:11:42 pm

Hmm, well that didn't go exactly to plan . . . .

Got home - enthusiastic and ready to paint.

It didn't go very well. I had some bad runs in one bit (gonna have it blasted again) and another bit went a little crazed (must've been a little oil left on it).

As a result I subconsiously rushed the other bits - although they're fine - I ploughed through two cans in just an hour or so !

Result - still more to paint and no paint left. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Kinda feel like I'm wasting the evening . . . . . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on July 04, 2008, 06:21:06 pm

hmmm its a top job mate we all have them enthusiasm days where it dont go how you was planning it too

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 04, 2008, 06:35:56 pm

Well.

I had to do something !

So I just ordered two oil filters (a cheapie for the initial start-up period and a K&N for the first oil change) and a 160 degree 'stat.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 04, 2008, 07:03:52 pm

Next on the shopping list is the valve covers . . . then, depending on money, the starter and front pulley from Jegs.

Then I'll have to wait 'til payday . . . . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 05, 2008, 10:48:55 am

Decided to not entirely waste the evening and went back outside to re-fit the timing cover . . . and then the main pulley mount - but not all the way as I need to check alignment with the other pulleys first.

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I plan to "roll 'er over" and check the cam and lifters over today, paint the water pump, mount the water pump and mount the main bracket for the ancillaries.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on July 05, 2008, 11:07:30 am

Keep up the good work !

It's a pity G man ain't getting my Trans Am back on the road (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on July 05, 2008, 01:48:13 pm

sounds like the rebuild going well then!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 05, 2008, 02:01:26 pm

Just been out and sprayed the idler pulley, black and water pump housing, blue.

All went well except a dodgy valve on the blue paint can meant most of it ended up on me or the floor !

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Didn't have a choice, though, it had to be finished.

I've just degreased the oil cooler and am leaving it to air dry before painting it (black).

Later I need to grind a little bit off of the engine mounts to ensure a clean fit before spraying them, black, too.

If I get that done, along with the cam and lifter inspection, it should start looking like an engine again tomorrow . . . . . . .

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 05, 2008, 07:01:23 pm

It all went well today . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Here's the can that caused all the trouble. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/today001.jpg)

The top of the block, inspected and cleaned - all O.K. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/today004.jpg)

These two speak for themselves . . . . . THE REBUILD HAS BEGUN !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/woohoo.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/today005.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/today006.jpg)

The motor looks daft as it is . . . But once the heads go back on it'll look better.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on July 05, 2008, 07:04:58 pm

Management just said " One thing about Dean is that he always does a proper job "

Praise indeed (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

Coming Dear..............................

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on July 05, 2008, 08:20:24 pm

looks sweet (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on July 06, 2008, 07:55:38 am

Quoting: F Body

" One thing about Dean is that he always does a proper job "

and one day he might actually finish one (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on July 06, 2008, 09:22:42 am

Quoting: Incursus

Quoting: F Body
" One thing about Dean is that he always does a proper job "

and one day he might actually finish one

LOL pot.....kettle.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on July 06, 2008, 09:28:41 am

Quoting: Incursus

and one day he might actually finish one

thats a male thing ...so im told (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 06, 2008, 10:02:06 am

Quoting: ianjpage

LOL pot.....kettle.....

Indeed. I may actually be the only MKB'er to actually, truly, finish a project, entirely, ever.

I think there's a lot of half-done cars out there. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Quoting: art b

thats a male thing ...so im told

Definately.

BUT I have resisted temptation to buy another . . . . at times the urge was almost irresistable . . . But i'm 100% committed to getting the Camaro done, now.

Then it's the Caddy . . . . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on July 06, 2008, 08:28:11 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

LOL pot.....kettle.....

Don't think I have any projects. just scrap metal.

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Post by: philoldsmobile on July 06, 2008, 10:02:31 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Indeed. I may actually be the only MKB'er to actually, truly, finish a project, entirely, ever.

(http://pic90.picturetrail.com:80/VOL2190/831153/16514305/282647825.jpg)
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 07, 2008, 06:51:07 am

Well, some bad news . . I didn't win the auction for the one-off valves covers . . I'm gutted, TBH. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
They were $220 B-I-N but when I first saw them I just didn't have the money available . . . when I did someone had bid and the B-I-N had dissappeared.

They went for $265 ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

OH, well.

Anyway - Yesterdays progress :

The Oil cooler block was replaced along with the oil sensor.

All applicable sensor and alternator connectors were removed from the old Firebird loom. *

The Meziere water pump was tested. *

* Thanks Titsy.

Next job - the sump. I'm opting to keep the stock pan for now . . until I commit to going forced induction I feel stock capacity is ample.

But it needs a paint. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 07, 2008, 10:15:11 pm

Tonights mini-update.

As expected the original 305ci motor mounts (that I'm using for the LT1) needed a bit of "massaging" to fit over the after-market solid chassis mounts.
In fact one needed massaging, the other needed some semi-serious grinding to acheive the desired clearance.

All done, now though, and are going into work for me to spray on my breaks tomorrow - along with the oil pan that got a little attention tonight, too.

Other little jobs tonight were fitting a Hypertech 160* stat and refitting the stat housing.

The oil filters, roller-rockers and spring/retainers should all be on-route to Carl . . . .

Starter and Pulley will follow mid-week along with the (second-choice) valve covers.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 08, 2008, 07:14:18 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 08, 2008, 07:33:10 am

Engine (engine side) mounts are now degreased, painted and in the oven. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Sump is degreased, and as been primered . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on July 08, 2008, 04:15:20 pm

Mounts are finished . . . not brilliant, but not bad.

Sump has been finished - looks (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Hopefully it dries quickly so I can take it home tonight and maybe refit. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 08, 2008, 04:27:59 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on July 08, 2008, 07:45:35 pm

cant beat, doin ya project stuff at work.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 09, 2008, 06:25:23 am

Hopefully getting the transmission blasted tomorrow . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

No progress last night - instead I did stuff on the Jinlun and tidied the garage.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 09, 2008, 10:35:30 pm

Sump pan is now re-fitted. As is the knock sensor, oil tube and dipstick. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

The motor mounts are going on tomorrow as is, hopefully, the leccy water pump. Then it'll be onto the transmission . . . . .

Photos to follow . . . .

I also dragged the T56 out of the Caddy's trunk this evening . . . . unless you're considerably stronger than me DO NOT try that at home !

Fek - nearly killed me ! It's a Fook of a lot heavier than the T5, that's for sure.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on July 10, 2008, 07:09:41 am

I lifted my 700R4 into the back of my work van a couple of months ago and jesus i almost shat myself

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on July 10, 2008, 07:26:54 am

so what bits you waiting on for the motor now then?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 10, 2008, 07:32:22 am

Quoting: CJ-IROCZ

I lifted my 700R4 into the back of my work van a couple of months ago and jesus i almost shat myself

The old T5 I could carry under one arm . . . the T56 I struggled with a bit.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: ianjpage

so what bits you waiting on for the motor now then?

I'll be putting the mounts on tonight . . . . after that I'm waiting on the new springs, locks and retainers . . . once I have them I can fit the heads back on, fit the rockers, the intake and valve covers.

That's why I'm turning my attention to the transmission as I'm running out of jobs on the motor.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 10, 2008, 10:06:52 am

Quoting: Roadkill

cool not much really then considering!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on July 10, 2008, 09:07:31 pm

Information as requested:

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/slice_of_toast/seal_1.jpg)
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/slice_of_toast/seal_2.jpg)
This engine is equipped with a one-piece, lip type seal mounted in a separate seal retainer. Seal replacement requires removal of the transmission.

1. Raise and support vehicle, then remove transmission, clutch assembly and flywheel, as equipped.
2. Pry seal from retainer, inserting screwdriver in notches provided in seal retainer, Fig. 16.
3. Lubricate replacement seal with engine oil, then mount seal on tool No. J-35621, or equivalent, Fig. 17.
4. Mount tool on rear of crankshaft, tightening screws snugly to ensure seal will be installed squarely on crankshaft.
5. Tighten wing nut on tool until it bottoms, then remove tool from crankshaft.
6. Reverse remaining procedure to complete installation.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 11, 2008, 08:39:51 am

Quoting: Titsy

Information as requested:

Murky Buckets. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: F Body on July 11, 2008, 11:38:33 am

Quoting: Titsy

Information as requested:

That looks a bit testical (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 12, 2008, 08:25:29 am

O.K - Time for some piccy's. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

The engine with sump fitted (duuh) - taken a couple of nights back :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zed28001.jpg)

The Trans, masked up and ready for blasting :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zed28002.jpg)

The trans, back from blasting :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zed28005.jpg)

The Engine as she sits, now. Water pump housing repaired and Meziere fitted, engine mount boss has been ground back level after repair and is holding just fine under the same torque as the rest of the mount-bolts. Mounts are obviously re-fitted, too.

The GM performance manifold is just sitting on top so I can start to get a "feel" for how tall this sucker's gonna be :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zed28006.jpg)

Attention is turning towards the trans, now. I also had the power steering pump blasted yesterday, too. Both parts turned out good but it was raining hard and the sand did stick to the wet parts, making my job of paint-prep a little more time consuming. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Fieldy on July 12, 2008, 08:27:18 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

This has turned into A good thread read (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on July 12, 2008, 09:49:12 am

Can i get a hell yeah (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Looks awesome Dean

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Post by: Roadkill on July 13, 2008, 11:29:58 am

Cheers, matey.

I had the T56 apart yesterday . . . I took some piccy's, too - it looks cool in there. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

The gearbox looks quite literally as good as new inside - there's not even wear marks on the shaft-end bearings and all the gears look fresh and sharp (none ground or missing in other words).

The ATF in it, however, was rank. It's all been drained out, ready for fresh to be added once it's insitu.

Quick thanks to Ian for supplying the extra pair of hands required when I re-assembled the front cover.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Todays job is getting the gearbox brushed down, degreased and into primer - ready for top coat (as soon as I can afford the paint !)

Also I've got some random brackets to paint and the brake booster was never 100% finished so that'll be done soon, too.

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Post by: ianjpage on July 13, 2008, 09:16:13 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I took some piccy's, too - it looks cool in there.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/pics.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on July 13, 2008, 09:30:23 pm

Looking Excellent m8 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 13, 2008, 09:40:26 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Todays job is getting the gearbox brushed down, degreased and into primer - ready for top coat (as soon as I can afford the paint !)

Done. It's had a coat of red oxide, then a coat of U-Pol (to smooth the surface just a little) then another coat of red oxide.

It turned out good, albeit it got a little fumey in the garage . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/weed.gif)

Pics will follow tomorrow. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 13, 2008, 09:49:42 pm

Oh, quick "upz" to the Titmiester for sucessfully identifying the CAGS (Computer Aided Gear Selection) control on the T56. (EDIT - this can clearly be seen on the picture, above, showing the 'box after blasting).

This solenoid (sp) has been removed because, it seems, without a constant feed, I'd be unable to shift into higher gears !

Hell, that actuator was bloody heavy ! - I'm glad it's gone . . . I've just got a hole to fill, now, under the shifter.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

The other minor issue will be the speed sensor . . . The T5 had a gear that drove a cable to the speedo . . . The T56 uses a "gear" and sensor and those funny wire thingys.

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Post by: 55starchief on July 13, 2008, 09:55:33 pm

Might be able to help you there, i have a SPA Design 3.5" Tach with sequential shift lights and digital speedo. Was going to use it on the Transam but things have changed and its probably going to end up on ebay, Looking for around £200, but its worth it as its pretty trick

[img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/index.php?action=downloadfile&topic=5758&upfile=123674&sub=1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>

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Post by: Titsy on July 13, 2008, 11:15:08 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Oh, quick "upz" to the Titmiester for sucessfully identifying the CAGS (Computer Aided Gear Selection) control on the T56.

Err not quite....

If you remember, I said it locks out 2nd and 3rd, forcing a 1st to 4th shift... And we couldn't quite see how it worked in the position.... Well that's because it wasn't the CAGS solenoid, it was the Reverse lockout solenoid... Now i'm guessing you're going to want to remove this anyway as you have no control over it. But this was a safegaurd from lunching the box as there is no reverse syncro... it stopped you sellecting reverse above so many revs or if you were moving...

See the diagram for the locations of the solenoids...

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/slice_of_toast/62428983.gif)

I'm guessing that either the CAGS solenoid wasn't fitted to this box or you removed it already as I see a space on your box... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) Is that a through hole or hasn't it been cut?

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Post by: Titsy on July 13, 2008, 11:20:14 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

That could be a good option Dean.... What's the part number G-Unit?

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Post by: Titsy on July 13, 2008, 11:48:03 pm

Here are the numbers Deano:

~~12101899~~ 88987978 = Speedo (VSS) Connector
12085485 = back up lamp connector
12101857 = Reverse Lockout solenoid

I haven't got a supplyer yet...

Apparently each one comes with 12" of wire, So I'll have to splice them...

Some other guys have wired the reverse lockout to a switch on hurtst T-Handles.... not sure of the benefits myself... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on July 14, 2008, 06:42:34 am

Quoting: Titsy

That could be a good option Dean.... What's the part number G-Unit?

http://www.spadesign.com/design/design.asp?section=tachometers_53

http://www.spadesign.com/design/productdetails.asp?product=SPC-S090|232

I have the loom and User Manuals

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Post by: Roadkill on July 14, 2008, 08:04:05 am

Quoting: Titsy

Now i'm guessing you're going to want to remove this anyway as you have no control over it. But this was a safegaurd from lunching the box as there is no reverse syncro... it stopped you sellecting reverse above so many revs or if you were moving...

Ahh, O.K, so it was PhilO who was right, then.

Quoting: Titsy

See the diagram for the locations of the solenoids...

O.K - we knew the reverse switch and speedo sensor.

Mine doesn't have the skip-shift solenoid fitted.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 14, 2008, 08:09:22 am

Quoting: Titsy

12101857 = Reverse Lockout solenoid

That's the actual unit I've already got - or the connector for it ?

Quoting: Titsy

each one comes with 12" of wire, So I'll have to splice them...

Noted.

Quoting: Titsy

Some other guys have wired the reverse lockout to a switch on hurtst T-Handles.... not sure of the benefits myself...

No, me, neither.

It's a six-speed . . . you'd have to be pretty daft to drop it into reverse from 5th or 6th.

If it was a five-speed with reverse located below 5th then I'd be more concerned.

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Post by: Titsy on July 14, 2008, 11:25:56 am

Quoting: Roadkill

That's the actual unit I've already got - or the connector for it ?

The numbers are for the connectors...

Quoting: Roadkill

No, me, neither.

It's a six-speed . . . you'd have to be pretty daft to drop it into reverse from 5th or 6th.

If it was a five-speed with reverse located below 5th then I'd be more concerned.

The shift pattern is:

1 3 5 R

2 4 6

So it is possible you could go for 5th and get reverse... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

If you did it would make a mess of the box and then very shortly after the car...

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Post by: 55starchief on July 14, 2008, 11:36:55 am

If it was me i would have the lockout on a button so you have to press to engage reverse, but thats only me

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Post by: Titsy on July 14, 2008, 11:40:29 am

Quoting: Titsy

88987978 = Speedo (VSS) Connector $17.09
12085485 = back up lamp connector $13.74
12101857 = Reverse Lockout solenoid $14.22

Prices above from these guys: http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/ChevyTransmissions/parts.cfm

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Post by: Roadkill on July 14, 2008, 11:46:22 am

Quoting: Titsy

The shift pattern is:

1 3 5 R

2 4 6

I know.

Quoting: Titsy

So it is possible you could go for 5th and get reverse...

Long shot, but true.

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Post by: Titsy on July 14, 2008, 11:50:44 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Long shot, but true.

I'm guessing it's possible which is the reason for it having the lock-out... Might be a tad easier to do with the short shifter too... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: F Body on July 14, 2008, 12:09:13 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Long shot, but true.

Without syncro you'd only do it once (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Me thinks it has to be done (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 14, 2008, 02:29:29 pm

Quoting: F Body

Me thinks it has to be done

For the sake of adding a small switch to the shifter-stick I'd agree. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I was only discussing with Titsy the many additions / modifications I want / need to make to the 'Maro's loom.

They'll be a lot of extra switches going in there - I want manual control over almost everything ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: F Body on July 14, 2008, 07:01:47 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

They'll be a lot of extra switches going in there - I want manual control over almost everything !

(http://eldan.co.uk/photos/2004_06_25_FlintCarShow/023_kitt.jpg)

Picture link dumped ( It was a picture of KITT showing all the hundreds of dashboard switches )

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Post by: Titsy on July 14, 2008, 07:53:25 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

For the sake of adding a small switch to the shifter-stick I'd agree.

You should have gone with one of these:
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/slice_of_toast/hurst.jpg)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 15, 2008, 07:36:16 am

Quoting: Titsy

You should have gone with one of these:

Nope.

I hate buttons on the shifter knob.

As reverse is used less than 1% of the time why should it occupy a place where my thumb will spend 50% (or more) of its time ?

Basically there's no point having a manual control if I'm gonna have my thumb resting on the button is there ?

I was thinking about 3" down the stick, on the front face, so it could be engaged with my "F*ck you" finger (that comes perfectly in line with the shifter stick).

That way it's out of the way but can still be easily switched on / off.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 15, 2008, 07:39:25 am

Scrubbed, degreased, primered and painted the power steering pump, belt tensioner and pulley last night.

All turned out good.

Will refit all said parts tonight. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Yeah, yeah - pictures to follow.

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Post by: ianjpage on July 15, 2008, 05:47:00 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 15, 2008, 09:03:05 pm

Pictures as promised : (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

The inside of a T56 :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/USA08531.jpg)

I feel like I've done this before . . . : (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/USA08535.jpg)

Power Steering Pump - ON A STEEEK ! (primered) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/USA08536.jpg)

Power Steering Pump - ON A STEEEK ! (painted) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/USA08540.jpg)

Belt tensioner (painted) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/USA08539.jpg)

Tensioner Pulley (painted) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/USA08541.jpg)

Tonight - P/S pump, tensioner and pulley refitted :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/USA08543.jpg)

Hopefully I'll be laying my hands on some more red paint tomorrow so I can get the T56 in paint.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: art b on July 15, 2008, 09:35:09 pm

keep up the good work, it all looks cool,
can i send ya some mopar bits....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on July 15, 2008, 09:38:13 pm

Quoting: art b

can i send ya some mopar bits....

Never mind that.... Can I steal some LT1 bits... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 15, 2008, 09:53:28 pm

Quoting: art b

can i send ya some mopar bits....

Oooo, I do a good MoPar. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: F Body on July 16, 2008, 06:48:45 am

Looking good I like your attention detail (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on July 16, 2008, 07:24:25 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Oooo, I do a good MoPar.

Yeah... It'll look real prety, but don't expect it to run once the internals have been taken to with an angle grinder...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 16, 2008, 07:41:37 am

I'm hoping Sammy can pick me up some "Spohn" Red today so I can paint the transmission tonight. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

After that I'll be turning my attention back to the engine bay and the brake booster and associated bracketery. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

THEN it'll be a case of rolling the car on to a flat surface and finish POR15ing the floor pan between the front and rear sections which are already done. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

THEN. Engine in. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 16, 2008, 07:53:36 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on July 16, 2008, 11:39:51 am

What do you think about getting something like this made up for a custom instrument panel?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-89-CAMARO-ALUMINUM-DASH-PANEL-FOR-AUTOMETER-GAUGES_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ140720QQihZ015QQitemZ250270833437#ebayphotohosting

The modular construction of the panles in the 3rd gen is going to make it very easy to add custom gauge and switch setups... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: F Body on July 16, 2008, 11:51:35 am

Quoting: Titsy

What do you think about getting something like this made up for a custom instrument panel?

It would be mega cool if you could have one of those programable display screens (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
That way you can decide on the layout and toggle display screens etc (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on July 16, 2008, 12:26:20 pm

Quoting: F Body

It would be mega cool if you could have one of those programable display screens

What kinda like a Widescreen PC monitor for a Dash?

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Post by: Roadkill on July 16, 2008, 01:07:21 pm

Quoting: Titsy

What do you think about getting something like this made up for a custom instrument panel?

Looks good . . . and only £33. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

EDIT - Sammy's collected my paint so it looks like the trans is getting done tonight.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on July 16, 2008, 06:33:07 pm

Quoting: F Body

It would be mega cool if you could have one of those programable display screens
That way you can decide on the layout and toggle display screens etc

I think dials will suffice...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: F Body on July 16, 2008, 06:49:21 pm

Quoting: Titsy

I think dials will suffice..

Well that's a surprise I thought you'd be in your element there, adjusting all the incoming signals and display properties (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on July 16, 2008, 08:55:32 pm

Well there are a couple of options for all in one displays

Stack make this one

(http://www.stackltd.com/images/st8100package.png)

http://www.stackltd.com/st8100.html

SPA Design make this one

(http://www.spadesign.com/productpics/D1009KKPHz.jpg)

http://www.spadesign.com/design/dashsystem.asp

Both run about £800

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Post by: philoldsmobile on July 16, 2008, 09:10:45 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Power Steering Pump - ON A STEEEK !

PMSL!!!!!!!

Greame, that first stack display is the one used by van demon on the formula palmer cars - its rubbish. the tach movement is sticky and jerky, and the display is hard to read while moving.

would look wrong in a road car too, IMHO

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Post by: Titsy on July 16, 2008, 09:58:31 pm

The SPA unit is only 200mm x 100mm total, which means the dials and display will be tiny.... But it is very neat...

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Post by: 55starchief on July 16, 2008, 10:03:14 pm

Quoting: Titsy

The SPA unit is only 200mm x 100mm total,

Well thats 4" tall so the speedo and tach would be the same size as whats currently already there which are probably 3.3/8"

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Post by: Titsy on July 16, 2008, 10:19:36 pm

Quoting: 55starchief

Well thats 4" tall so the speedo and tach would be the same size as whats currently already there which are probably 3.3/8"

You're probably right there, but working on that premis it will never fit an instrument panel with this outline:

(http://i7.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/ee/64/4d6c_1.JPG)

There's just not enough space in the top centre of that outline, you need to spread it out a bit...

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Post by: Roadkill on July 17, 2008, 08:27:33 am

Regarding the gauges . . . .

Firstly.

I'm not a fan of LCD re-outs on them. LED ain't too bad but LCD. No.

Secondly.

Although good for research purposes, and as I explained to Titsy last night, I simply do not have the money for gauges at this time. All money is being directed into items to get the engine back into the car.

Yes, I need to start thinking about them but purchasing isn't gonna happen for a few months yet - I've got other things requiring my time, attention and money before then.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 17, 2008, 08:33:31 am

Anyway.

UPDATE !

The T56 is now in paint . . . . and like a true hardcore I was out in the garage before work at 7am refitting the solenoid, sensors and new shifter.

The results -

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzz001.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzz002.jpg)

And, Yeah, O.K, the suspected CAGS solenoid is actually, in fact, the reverse lock-out and IS being refitted.

So it needed painting before that. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzz003.jpg)

Next jobs - Finish painting :

The brake booster and brackets . . . then finish the flywheel dust cover . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on July 17, 2008, 10:12:42 am

Quoting: Titsy

88987978 = Speedo (VSS) Connector $17.09
12085485 = back up lamp connector $13.74
12101857 = Reverse Lockout solenoid $14.22

Prices above from these guys: \" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/ChevyTransmissions/parts.cfm

I've emailed a guy who I've been buying some bits from (via ebay) recently for a price.

That way I get a check price - and possible can piggyback on postage. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 17, 2008, 09:29:13 pm

looking very (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Gator on July 18, 2008, 06:15:51 am

quality mate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 18, 2008, 07:36:07 am

Quick thanks to Tisy for tearing into the Z28's dashboard last night (planning for future gauges, switches and lights has begun).

Also we managed to mate the gearbox back on the bell housing and I got the Spohn X-member fitted to the box.

Got the flywheel guard painted, too.

Next jobs are the booster and brackets - that'll be saturday.

Then it's back out with the POR15. Yay. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

TITSY - Link dump -

3 gauge cluster -

http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/12201/10002/-1/752285|10335#

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Post by: F Body on July 19, 2008, 11:39:31 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Also we managed to mate the gearbox back on the bell housing and I got the Spohn X-member fitted to the box.

It might be easier to fill the gearbox with oil before you put it in the car (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 19, 2008, 12:24:42 pm

Quoting: F Body

It might be easier to fill the gearbox with oil before you put it in the car

Certainly easier to fill . . . unfortunately it's likely it'll all run out the tail during re-fitting as the rear "seal" is not, actually, a seal.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: F Body on July 19, 2008, 12:34:01 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

unfortunately it's likely it'll all run out the tail during re-fitting as the rear "seal" is not, actually, a seal.

Cling film for the win (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 19, 2008, 01:05:39 pm

Quoting: F Body

Cling film for the win

That's very thin line of defense should it contact the transmission tunnel on the way in ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on July 19, 2008, 01:14:20 pm

Why not remove the end section from the prop shaft and wedge it in place?

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Post by: F Body on July 19, 2008, 01:25:40 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

That's very thin line of defense

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wrapit.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/coat.gif)

Probably easier to leave it empty them (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 20, 2008, 08:06:16 am

Quoting: Titsy

Why not remove the end section from the prop shaft and wedge it in place?

Because that still doesn't make a "proper" seal . . .

Quick update . . . .

Random brackets finished . . . . (yes I know there's a pot of vaseline in the background) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzz001.jpg)

Brake booster finished . . . Just gotta do the brake pipe unions next and refit. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzz002.jpg)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 20, 2008, 08:08:24 am

loooking good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 20, 2008, 07:35:56 pm

Mini-update.

I've just installed the LT1/T56 clutch slave/master cylinder assembly to the bulkhead and also refitted the brake booster.

I've removed the old speedo cable as it's now obvious it won't work with the T56 so is useless.

I'm just about to put the last coat of primer on the main brake union casting and, depending on how much beer I drink later, may even go out after my shower in my dressing gown and put some top-coat on it so it can be refitted (hopefully) tomorrow . . .

We'll see . . .

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Post by: Rob on July 21, 2008, 06:42:21 am

Quoting: Roadkill

(yes I know there's a pot of vaseline in the background)

Next to the Cock(pit) Shine (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 21, 2008, 07:14:53 am

Yes. I was using the Vaseline to grease up my (water pumps) O-Ring.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

depending on how much beer I drink later, may even go out after my shower in my dressing gown and put some top-coat on it so it can be refitted (hopefully) tomorrow . . .

We'll see . . .

Well - It got to damp last night to paint anything more so I went out this morning and got that union in top coat.

All being well it should be refitted after work. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 21, 2008, 09:10:32 am

TITSY -

Based on that dashboard template you found on eBay as a start point - that provides locations for :

2 gauges @ 3 3/8" dia
4 gauges @ 2 1/16" dia . . . but protentially room for another 2 @ 2 1/16"

I'm looking at these Auto Meter ones . . . . .

http://www.jegs.com/p/Auto+Meter/745199/10002/-1/10339

There's only one Speedo, there, with an Odometer . . . (which has a tiny tach built-in) . . . which I'm not keen on.

No fuel pressure gauge in that lot, either. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on July 21, 2008, 09:11:59 am

They look nasty in my opinion, ultralite every time

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Post by: Roadkill on July 21, 2008, 09:23:51 am

Nah.

Not a fan of white gauges in post-50's cars.

They look wrong in my opinion . . . the crude, black ones will suit the Camaro quite well.
White faced ones would look stupid. Maybe in a British sports car . . but not in an 80's yank. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on July 21, 2008, 09:50:10 am

Quoting: Roadkill

White faced ones would look stupid

They arnt white they are aluminium

(http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/100/105/105-4314.jpg)

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Post by: Incursus on July 21, 2008, 10:00:39 am

Deffo black in the Camaro imho. especially if your still planning black paint.

The font is nicer in the white one though...not super keen on the italics in the black....but thats being very picky (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 21, 2008, 10:01:20 am

Quoting: Roadkill

White faced ones would look stupid

Quoting: 55starchief

They arnt white they are aluminium

Err. No. They still look white to me.

The bezels are ally, yes, but the faces are definately white.

But hey. What do I know. I'm colour-blind. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on July 21, 2008, 10:26:41 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Err. No. They still look white to me.

The bezels are ally, yes, but the faces are definately white.

But hey. What do I know. I'm colour-blind.

(http://www.autometer.com/img/products/4988_d.jpg)

Nope not white as i used to have a set

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Post by: CJ-IROCZ on July 21, 2008, 10:29:33 am

Black i reckon mate, white would look tacky. What colour is your interior ?

Nice gauges though

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Post by: Roadkill on July 21, 2008, 10:34:53 am

Quoting: CJ-IROCZ

What colour is your interior ?

Dark grey / black. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Quoting: 55starchief

Nope not white as i used to have a set

They still look white from here . . . am I the only person seeing that ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: CJ-IROCZ on July 21, 2008, 11:00:31 am

I think off-white would be the term, when describing them i see black gauges and white gauges though

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Post by: Titsy on July 21, 2008, 11:32:54 am

Hmmm... not convinced by the designer series... what about the Colbolt:

(http://www.autometer.com/img/products/6288_d.jpg)

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Post by: Titsy on July 21, 2008, 11:34:39 am

Quoting: Titsy

what about the Colbolt

They have Fuel pressure gauges in that series too.... and the speed range upto 160mph is better...

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Post by: Titsy on July 21, 2008, 11:38:00 am

although the tach range goes upto 10krpm which is gunna suck for a pushrod engine... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: CJ-IROCZ on July 21, 2008, 11:39:33 am

your replying to your own posts there mate

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Post by: Titsy on July 21, 2008, 11:41:10 am

Quoting: CJ-IROCZ

your replying to your own posts there mate

I know, I get a better class of conversation that way... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on July 21, 2008, 11:44:08 am

Quoting: 55starchief

They arnt white they are aluminium

He's right actually... I checked their site...

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Post by: Roadkill on July 21, 2008, 12:00:37 pm

Quoting: Titsy

He's right actually... I checked their site...

They still look white, or off-white to me . . . . And would still look crap in an 80's yank.

And stop replying to your own posts . . . it'll just lengthen this thread unnecessarily and the "good stuff" will get lost in the crap.

Quoting: Titsy

what about the Colbolt:

They appear to be nearly double the price across most of the range. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I prefer the simplicity of the Designer Black . . . but TBH, this was merely an exercise at this time.

We will need to sit down and work out what'll be most suitable but I don't think it's worth filling 5 pages of forum space with . . .

Now we have a few shortlisted we can work from there . . . I'll pop round at some point this week.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: EDGE on July 21, 2008, 02:54:58 pm

not wanting to p!ss on anyones bonfires but the pro-comp ultra lite gauge I have here in my hand has an aluminium face, as to the 2 in the Saleen...

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Post by: Roadkill on July 21, 2008, 03:27:27 pm

Quoting: EDGE

not wanting to p!ss on anyones bonfires but the pro-comp ultra lite gauge I have here in my hand has an aluminium face, as to the 2 in the Saleen...

Come on, Edge - we've covered that already. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

It says ally on their website but the picture(s) clearly looks white/off-white - to me and, obviously, others, too.

Regardless of that, however, they'd look crap in the 'Maro - there's no billet anything in there, no brushed trim, no polished bits on the dash . . . to add ally gauges with ally bezels would be utterly out of place . . . like putting billet ally heater controls in a SN95 Mustang . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: EDGE on July 21, 2008, 04:33:16 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

least we agree they're ali (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on July 21, 2008, 05:02:09 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

like putting billet ally heater controls in a SN95 Mustang . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/burn.gif)

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Post by: CJ-IROCZ on July 21, 2008, 06:38:28 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Regardless of that, however, they'd look crap

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 21, 2008, 08:29:01 pm

O.K, back on topic - here's an update.

Here's the brake union I painted this morning - just about to be refitted in the 'bay.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzz1001.jpg)

Obviously not everything requires painting or can be painted at all . . some parts just need a bloody good clean . . . !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzz1002.jpg)

And here's the Booster, bracket, union and reservoir plus the start of the new S/S brakelines fitted. Just behind this is the clutch reservoir fitted to its painted bracket.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzz1004.jpg)

Next job . . . . .

Tidy the washer/wiper motor and refit. Then do the same to the steering column.

EDIT -

As Ryan pointed out this evening - the engine bay has got very dusty ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

It'll be wiped down before the motor goes in. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on July 21, 2008, 10:46:05 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: F Body on July 22, 2008, 06:45:29 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Obviously not everything requires painting or can be painted at all

I'd have been tempted to paint the reservoir casting gold (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

But still (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: 55starchief on July 22, 2008, 07:37:23 am

I would have plated it myself

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Post by: Roadkill on July 22, 2008, 09:00:31 am

Quoting: F Body

I'd have been tempted to paint the reservoir casting gold

I didn't see the point . . . looks fine as it is. It's ally so it's not like it's gonna rust anytime soon.

Quoting: 55starchief

I would have plated it myself

Why ?

Firstly - it would be a MAJOR ball-ache blocking off all the fluid entry points.
Plus, in order to plate you'd have to degrease (hence allow chemicals into places they really shouldn't go) and then acid dip it - ally ?

Also. I'm on a tight timescale and budget . . . sending a part off and fannying around getting it plated when it's survived fine for 25 years as it is really does seem utterly pointless and a complete waste of time and money.

As it was, it took just 20 minutes (and no money) to clean it up and have it looking as good as new.

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Post by: ianjpage on July 22, 2008, 09:02:37 am

looks very good - nice to see bits going back in the engine bay i bet!!!!

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Post by: Gator on July 22, 2008, 11:37:13 am

looks friggin great to me (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 22, 2008, 10:18:05 pm

Well . . I took the washer / wiper motor apart today, ready for painting.

Scrubbed it, cleaned it, degreased it and masked it up.

I'm doing it in two parts, basically - plus there's a plastic part that I've just cleaned.

It was a b@stard to get all the grime out of but I think I got there in the end. Mental note : need more Gunk . . .

Got both parts primered . . . . will top coat tomorrow . . probably refit thursday.

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Post by: ianjpage on July 23, 2008, 08:15:18 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

need more Gunk . . .

You want some from costco - we going there friday / saturday ?

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Post by: Roadkill on July 23, 2008, 08:54:53 am

Quoting: ianjpage

You want some from costco

Can't afford it, unfortunately. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Will just have to do the last bits the "old fashioned" way.

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Post by: ianjpage on July 23, 2008, 09:33:17 am

ahh fair enough

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Post by: Roadkill on July 24, 2008, 08:02:10 am

Quoting: Roadkill

will top coat tomorrow . .

This has been done - to be assembled and (hopefully) fitted tonight.

I also managed to get the removed part of the steering column done, too.

That was a b@stard to clean and even more of a b@stard to mask-up for painting.
Still. It's done, primered and painted.

Again - hopefully will go back in tonight . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on July 25, 2008, 07:53:31 am

Wiper / Washer motor re-assembled (what a B@stid of a job !) - hopefully it works !

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Steering column done, and re-fitted, what another B@stid of a job !

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Wiper / Washer motor re-fitted - easy job - yay !

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It had got too dark to take pics, though, so I'll take some tonight.

That's it . . . I think the engine bay is now ready for the motor.

Next major job, is to pull the car on to the (level) road and POR15 underneath between the two areas I've already done.

Then fit the "cradle" for the aftermarket torque arm . . . I'll also test-fit the trans X-member . . . . then the new S/S brake and fuel lines have gotta go in . . . then the new park-brake cables . . . . .

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We'll see what gets done.

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At the end of the day I've got about 3 weeks to wait for the parts from the US, albeit I'm away next weekend - I still think I can fit all that in.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 26, 2008, 09:26:01 am

Some pictures :

The Wiper / Washer pump / motor before : (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzgz1001.jpg)

And after - not brilliant but I'm happy with it - it was an awkward f*cker to mask and paint : (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzz12001.jpg)

Assembled - what a b!tch of a job ! : (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzz12003.jpg)

And fitted, with the steering column . . again, not 100% but good enough, I feel. Although I will be giving the steering column some more attention . . . : (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzz12005.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on July 26, 2008, 07:26:08 pm

needs dusting lol (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on July 27, 2008, 12:19:57 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Assembled

Needs a small length of Slit-loom that does... I'll bring some tomorrow..

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 27, 2008, 01:25:39 pm

Image Dump :

(Guess what we're currently doing . . . )

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/1983ChevyCamaroZ2834.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/1983ChevyCamaroZ2833.jpg
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LINK EDITTED - THESE ARE OLD PICTURES FROM THE TEAR-DOWN, NOT THE REBUILD !!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on July 27, 2008, 01:43:57 pm

completely unchanged from the 1st gen models (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

oh the joy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on July 27, 2008, 03:31:26 pm

well there is now somme brakes on deans maro....shock horror....

bloody orrible things drum brakes....

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on July 27, 2008, 07:17:58 pm

Although they now look considerably more shiny! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on July 27, 2008, 07:55:26 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

Although they now look considerably more shiny!

MMMM shiny things (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 27, 2008, 08:21:59 pm

While I'm compiling the next (uber) update . . .

Quick thanks to Chris and PhilO for suppling extra man power when pushing the car out and back again - Chris yesterday and PhilO today . . .

Big thanks to Titsy and Ian - Titsy for his assistance with the Brakes and Torque arm today and Ian for general assistance both days and help with the brakes today . . . .

Finally UBER thanks to my Third-Gen home-boy Ryan who assisted in the nasty jobs yesterday and still came back today to get the work done !

My thanks to you all.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 27, 2008, 08:47:01 pm

So. Here we go.

Probably the biggest single update in some time in respect of man-hours . . .

The first picture sums up yesterday. Basically alot of dirty, $hitty work on my part - scraping, brushing and degreasing the floor pan between the front and rear sections (while Fubar stripped out the interior) . . followed by a joint POR15'ing effort.

Nasty work but it had to be done.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzz123002.jpg)

Next, today, after test-fitting the Jegster Torque arm cradle we realised that, potentially, adjusting the park-brake cables would be impossible with it in place so fitting and adjusting-up the new 3-piece park-brake cable became a priority.

After some fannying around we got it all sorted. Of course this also meant rebuilding the rear drums, which - up to this point - were in a drawer in my tool-chest !

No pictures of the shiny Nickel-plated brake parts or the newish hardware or the new slave cylinders BUT here's a picture of the new cables in place . . .

(Ironically, after fitting the cradle we found that it is, actually, possible to adjust the cables . . . however fitting them would've been a definate no-no)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzz123005.jpg)

Of course this meant we could then get on and get the Torque arm cradle fitted.

*The aftermarket Torque arm I went for is much different to the stock one . . it's 2/3's the length and doesn't connect to the transmission - instead it connects to it's own cradle bolted through the floor pan in the trans-tunnel.

This obviously meant alot of test-fitting and marking out to ensure all 12 bolt-holes were drilled in the correct postion but, again, we made it.

Here's the first picture of the trans-tunnel inside . . It's why I had Fubes remove the interior yesterday . . . (Yes, I know you can only see 10 bolt-heads . . the other two are out-of-view)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzz123007.jpg)

The last two pictures, here, are obviously the Torque arm and cradle in place, a picture from each end of the car . . . The kit fitted perfectly and I'm very happy with the results and with what was accomplished this weekend.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzz123009.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/zzzzz123006.jpg)

The final task was to test-fit - or offer-up, basically - the Spohn T56 transmission cross-member to ensure smooth fitting when the engine and trans go-in.
Everything there lined up fine - so all good.

After everyone went home I spent the next hour or so tidying up after the hurricane what had apparently gone through !

Happy days. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Cheers, guys. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on July 27, 2008, 08:57:04 pm

looks ace Dean how did you get the old underseal and crap off was it just graft or did ya use some ...stuff

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on July 27, 2008, 10:11:06 pm

Quoting: Gator

old underseal and crap off

There wasn't any old underseal, which made life easier (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

The floorpan & car TBH is in really good condition with only a few areas of surface rust which were cleaned up well enough (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 28, 2008, 06:56:12 am

very (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) pics ..... glad to be of assistance

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 28, 2008, 07:44:40 am

Quoting: Gator

looks ace Dean how did you get the old underseal and crap off was it just graft or did ya use some ...stuff

Quoting: FUBAR

There wasn't any old underseal, which made life easier

Actually there was some in the wheel-arch area (which was sound) but none on the floor pan area, which as Ryan said, made life easier.

I just manually scraped and wire-brushed any surface rust areas.

Thankfully there were no signs of rust-holes and only one small area under the drivers seat that'll require attention from inside.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on July 28, 2008, 10:01:26 am

its lookin goooood (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: HardRockCamaro on July 28, 2008, 10:25:14 am

Looking good, what a lot of man hours you guys have put in...

Nice one lads!
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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on July 28, 2008, 11:59:10 am

Looking good Lord RK (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

Is the engine going in built or short block ( header nightmares ) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 28, 2008, 12:24:21 pm

Quoting: F Body

Is the engine going in built or short block

It'll go in with the heads and intake on - that's why it's not in already - as I'm waiting on parts. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: F Body

( header nightmares )

I don't have header nightmares on my car, Martyn - there's plenty of room in there. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 08, 2008, 07:38:42 am

It's been over a week now so I thought I'd add a "update" - although nothing has been done my end.

I have sold aload of stuff on eBay which has enabled me to pay for some "urgent" last items and pay Carl for the shipping to here.

Hopefully Carl will be getting it shipped in the next couple of days. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/flag.gif)

The parts I have coming are :

New valve springs, locks and retainers,
Roller-rockers 1.6 ratio,
Ally under-drive main pulley,
2 x Oil filters (a cheapie one and an "expensive" one) and
Engine lift plate and oil pump primer.

Hopefully if all goes to plan I'll be back buying bits VERY soon ((http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)) but for now I just have to wait . . . . .

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 08, 2008, 07:47:50 pm

Thought I'd get back "out there" and start doing something again . . . .

Spent about an hour cleaning the almost new calipers . . . . It's amazing how $hitty they get after only about 200 miles !

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Of course, when I'm finished cleaning they'll be treated to paint.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on August 08, 2008, 07:53:58 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Of course, when I'm finished cleaning they'll be treated to paint.

Where did you get the paint?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 09, 2008, 06:52:58 am

Quoting: Titsy

Where did you get the paint?

I *think* it was JWR . . . I'm guessing I brought it when I brought the calipers . . as I've had it in the garage for a little while.
It was my intention to paint the calipers before they went on originally but time didn't allow . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 13, 2008, 04:34:35 pm

After several interuptions and jollies out on the bike I finally got the calipers in paint - last night . . . the red, ironically, looks very similar to the Spohn red and hence the red I've used everywhere else on the car !

Result ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Then I finished off the evening by taking the fuel pressure regulator connections off, cleaning them/it (and its bracket) up and putting the connectors back on properly (it always leaked before).

This weekends' job - weather permitting - is to fit the calipers, new pads and new front flexi's - then refit the regulator.

The next job, however, is to go shopping ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 13, 2008, 06:19:49 pm

Link dump :

Banjo bolts : http://www.inlinetube.com/Brake%20Hoses%20rubber/BB-150.htm

Flex hose clip : http://www.inlinetube.com/Brake%20Hoses%20rubber/CLP111.htm

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 14, 2008, 08:21:21 am

Quoting: Titsy

88987978 = Speedo (VSS) Connector $17.09
12085485 = back up lamp connector $13.74
12101857 = Reverse Lockout solenoid $14.22

How about this !

The full set - $33 !

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LT1-LS1-T56-Wiring-Connector-Set-BACKUP-VSS-LOCKOUT_W0QQitemZ180273059137QQihZ008QQcategoryZ46104QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on August 14, 2008, 09:24:57 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 14, 2008, 09:29:02 am

Quoting: Titsy

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Good. 'Cos I brought 'em already ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Plus the valve covers . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 14, 2008, 09:40:13 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on August 14, 2008, 10:43:34 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Plus the valve covers . . .

Let's see...

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 14, 2008, 11:22:24 am

Quoting: Titsy

Let's see...

They're the Canton ones - not my first choice but will do the job. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140256131367&rd=1

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on August 17, 2008, 12:02:13 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Hopefully Carl will be getting it shipped in the next couple of days.

Done!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 17, 2008, 09:32:23 am

Quoting: sixpack2639

Done!

You Da Man, Carl. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/flag.gif)

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 20, 2008, 08:48:26 am

No updates to post.

I've been shopping instead . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

In the "second" wave of parts coming over there is :

GM performance Starter,

T56 Cable / connector set,

Canton Valve covers,

Edelbrock Performer,

90* Fuel banjo (for above),

Manual choke cable (for carb),

New Alternator.

That little lot comes to just under £500. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

Then there's the new Flywheel and Clutch I'm eyeing up . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 20, 2008, 09:19:36 am

The final parts required . . . I think . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Driveshaft.

http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-GM-F-Body/Drivetrain/Extreme-Duty-Driveshafts/Extreme-Duty-Driveshaft-Stock-Transmission.html

Headers.

~~Still looking into this . . . . .~~

Basically I've got two choices . . . Stainless works - my preferred option - (who only sell 82-92 Camaro headers through Spohn and Hawks) or Hooker Super Comps.

Hawks are VERY vague in their description and vague in their pricing then there's Spohn who have been surprisingly USELESS at responding to my emails.

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Hooker, on the other hand responded quickly and gave me the answers I needed.

So It's looking like Hooker Ceramic Super Comps . . . .

Ground clearance is less but it's not like I'm running a full system or anything . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 20, 2008, 09:35:19 am

Quoting: Roadkill

The final parts required . . . I think . .

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 20, 2008, 10:15:35 am

Titsy !

These what I want ?

http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/30012/10002/-1/751310|11535

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on August 20, 2008, 11:22:17 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Titsy !

These what I want ?

http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/30012/10002/-1/751310|11535

Have the headers not got O2 fittings?

I'm not sure what you are doing with the rest of the system so I can't tell you if that's right or not...

In an injected setup you would have an O2 sensor on each downpipe so you can monitor each bank seperatly and trim the fueling accordingly... you quite often have one bank running leaner and one richer because of air flow differences in the induction system. But for your application where you can only adjust the fueling for the whole engine and your only looking to monitor what's happening you can only really use one sensor, so this would be best to go at the Y section. Either way it's best to have the sensor(s) as close to the engine as possible, but obviously you have to consider at what point in the blending it needs to be.

You will need a bung initially unless you're going to get a sensor from the off for seting up your carb. and you can buy the fittings as just a threaded dohnut to weld onto the pipe if that's easier...

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Post by: Titsy on August 20, 2008, 11:39:29 am

I have two lead for borrowing a sensor and meter to setup your carb.... Will let you know when I know more... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 20, 2008, 12:19:19 pm

The headers DON'T come with O2 sensor fittings, hence the bolt-on reducers.

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For the sake of an O2 sensor I'd probably be looking to install one imediately - Is there a particular type I need to go for ?

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The set up is gonna be a short, dual system with a cross-over as close to the header collectors as possible (probably behind the gearbox).

Not sure about mufflers, yet. If I do fit them they'll be of the straight-thru' variety.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on August 20, 2008, 03:44:23 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

For the sake of an O2 sensor I'd probably be looking to install one imediately - Is there a particular type I need to go for ?

Kinda depends on the gauge you intend to use it with, but probably a BOSCH 5-wire wide band.

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Post by: Roadkill on August 20, 2008, 04:04:02 pm

http://www.jegs.com/p/AEM/761747/10002/-1/10625

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on August 20, 2008, 04:53:08 pm

If I can borrow a meter to set up your carb then you won't need a gauge straight away, but I would sugest you try and get one from the same range as the rest of the gauges you use so it doesn't look out of place...

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Post by: Roadkill on August 20, 2008, 05:33:23 pm

Quoting: Titsy

I would sugest you try and get one from the same range as the rest of the gauges you use so it doesn't look out of place...

Indeed. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 21, 2008, 01:00:35 pm

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Some good news !

Label/Receipt Number: CP79 9079 762U S
Status: Out of Foreign Customs

Your item cleared customs in GREAT BRITAIN at 10:23 AM on August 21, 2008. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.

So far that's been 5 days - including a sunday . . . . let's see how fast Parcel Force act . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sarcasm.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 21, 2008, 02:01:15 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 22, 2008, 10:25:53 am

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The parcel has been delivered - No charges and arrived in under a week !

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Post by: F Body on August 22, 2008, 11:49:26 am

Quoting: Roadkill

The parcel has been delivered - No charges and arrived in under a week !

Well at least the Parcel Farce muck up was in your favour (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rocker.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 22, 2008, 11:55:50 am

I'm guessing the lack of charges was down to *ahem* the obviously *ahem* worthless contents *ahem*.

Things only tend to get held up when there's charges to pay. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on August 22, 2008, 11:59:04 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm guessing the lack of charges was down to *ahem* the obviously *ahem* worthless contents *ahem*.

There are FORD parts (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 22, 2008, 02:13:24 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Then there's the new Flywheel and Clutch I'm eyeing up . . . . .

Made the decision today to buy said flywheel and clutch - ~~will order later~~ NOW ORDERED.

However this means that the headers are now on hold for a month or more (I'm beyond out of funds) . . . but I figure it makes more sense ordering the clutch and flywheel as at means the engine and trans can go back together and in as one.

The headers can easily be fitted after.

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Flywheel

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=RAM-2554

Clutch

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=RAM-98516

That now just leaves headers and driveshaft in the final shipment (probably in late sept / early october).

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Post by: sixpack2639 on August 22, 2008, 09:45:50 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

The parcel has been delivered - No charges and arrived in under a week !

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Definitly a first!!!!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Never had a package delivered that fast before, they're usually later than sooner!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Goes to proove it can be done..........if USPS and Parcel Farce get off their arse.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: sixpack2639 on August 22, 2008, 09:54:08 pm

BTW, did you find anything out of place in the box????(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/whistle.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on August 23, 2008, 02:33:35 am

Quoting: sixpack2639

BTW, did you find anything out of place in the box????(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/whistle.gif)

What ya been upto Carl? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on August 23, 2008, 07:26:19 am

Nothing illegal or immoral I assure you.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Rob on August 23, 2008, 05:27:01 pm

Quoting: Titsy

What ya been upto Carl?

A couple more immigrants for us to pay for....?(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on August 23, 2008, 10:54:32 pm

Quoting: Rob

A couple more immigrants for us to pay for....?

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on August 23, 2008, 11:52:03 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 24, 2008, 10:54:20 am

Quoting: sixpack2639

BTW, did you find anything out of place in the box????

You da man. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Seems the fairies left a prezzie in the box for me. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Next time i'm in the U.S (no matter HOW FAR away I am) I'm heading on over to South Carolina and taking You and yours to dinner and a night out.

Hell - the night could cost $1000 and I'd still have saved a fortune with Carl's assistance !

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Hopefully next year, mate. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/flag.gif)

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Post by: sixpack2639 on August 24, 2008, 04:39:13 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif) Who you callin a fairy!!?!?!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on August 24, 2008, 04:41:38 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 24, 2008, 06:38:07 pm

Quoting: sixpack2639

Who you callin a fairy!!?!?!

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on August 25, 2008, 09:44:52 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Seems the fairies left a prezzie in the box for me.

Do tell... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 25, 2008, 04:06:09 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Do tell...

They're shiny. And it's not Fairy poo, either. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on August 26, 2008, 01:39:10 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 26, 2008, 06:39:07 am

Quoting: Roadkill

The parcel has been delivered - No charges and arrived in under a week !

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 28, 2008, 02:48:57 pm

Spent 2-and-a-half hours lapping the valves in last night.

The original plan was to rebuild the heads tonight and get the top-end back on the block . . .

However. After some thought I've decided to do some "head work" and open out the ports mating the heads to the intake.

Then, as suggested by Titsy, "Shim" the spark plugs . . . . Problem is I can't shim this type of plug . . . so it's gonna be a case of trying each one with the heads off and seeing which one lines up best.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on August 28, 2008, 06:43:18 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Then, as suggested by Titsy, "Shim" the spark plugs . . . . Problem is I can't shim this type of plug . . . so it's gonna be a case of trying each one with the heads off and seeing which one lines up best.

Quoting: Car Bible

Keying your spark plugs

There's a little known method of squeezing some more efficiency out of your engine, known as spark plug keying. The idea is simple - expose the spark to the incoming fuel-air charge. If the grounding strap on the bottom of the spark plug faces the incoming fuel-air charge, the spark is effectively 'shielded' from the mixture. The image on the left shows a Schlieren photo of a spark emanating from a spark plug tip. You can see the area behind the ground strap doesn't have as much exposure to the spark. Now I know a spark is a spark, and any spark in a fuel-air environment is going to make it burn, but if the spark is facing the intake valves, then there's nothing obstructing the mixture from getting at it. In thousandths of a second, this does actually make a difference to your burn efficiency.
The problem is that when you screw a spark plug into your cylinder head, you have no idea which way the electrode gap is pointing. For best efficiency, it needs to be facing the intake valves or ports as I mentioned above. The solution is pretty simple. Before you install the spark plug, use a marker pen to put a mark on the insulator that aligns with the electrode gap at the bottom of the plug. It's important to use a marker pen and not a pencil because pencil lead is graphite, which conducts electricity. You don't want graphite on the outside of your spark plug conductor!
Once the plug is marked, screw it into the cylinder head remembering that you'll need a quarter turn to snug it up. If the mark on the insulator is a quarter turn from facing the intake valves when the spark plug is finger-tight, you'll know once it's snugged down that the gap will be facing the intake valves inside the combustion chamber.
If the mark isn't in the right place, don't go over tightening the spark plug to force it into position! You can get keying kits which are basically replacement crush washers that are slightly thicker or thinner than the standard one. They come in one-third, one-quarter and one-half sizes, meaning that they can affect how far you can screw the spark plug in by the matching amount. So if you finger-tighten the spark plug and the mark on the insulator is facing totally the wrong way, once it's snugged down it will still be a quarter turn away from the intake valves. By changing the crush washer to a quarter-turn crush washer, you'll be able to get an extra quarter turn before the spark plug is tight, which will solve your problem and the electrode gap will now be facing the right way.
(http://www.carbibles.com/watermark.php?text=Pulstar&image=images/keyedspark.jpg)

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Post by: F Body on August 28, 2008, 07:11:34 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Then, as suggested by Titsy, "Shim" the spark plugs . . .

Never heard of that idea before, given the spark plug thread is quite course, you may need quite thick shims (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on August 28, 2008, 07:29:22 pm

Quoting: F Body

you may need quite thick shims

As per the Bible, you use different thickness crush washers. But if they are tapered seats (as per the LT1) you are screwed... The only choice is to try the plugs in different holes and see what works best for the threads cut on the plugs and in the heads...

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 18, 2008, 10:16:02 am

Mini-update.

Of the 3 boxes of parts Carl has sent from the U.S - 1 has made it through customs, one is in customs, the other is still "inbetween".

At this rate I may even have one or two of them before the weekend !

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Fingers crossed for no charges . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on September 18, 2008, 03:17:17 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on September 18, 2008, 11:20:02 pm

Now 2 are thru customs and the 3rd is still over the Atlantic I guess.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I posted them all at the same time, but they took 2 different planes.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on September 19, 2008, 12:15:03 am

Quoting: sixpack2639

I posted them all at the same time, but they took 2 different planes.

Brilliant isn't it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 19, 2008, 08:39:19 am

According to Sammy, two boxes have now arrived !!!

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It'll be like F*cking christmas when I get home from work !

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on September 19, 2008, 10:04:44 am

hmmm boxes..............(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 19, 2008, 04:05:52 pm

Ho ho hooo !

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2 out of 3 boxes (each just $75 in value) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Ally flywheel, ram clutch, GM perf mini starter, polished alternator, Edelbrock Carb, holley choke cable and various other crap.

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Can't wait for box number 3 !

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on September 19, 2008, 04:22:34 pm

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Shiny Things (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on September 19, 2008, 04:23:59 pm

Oh Nice Cap BTW (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on September 19, 2008, 05:07:20 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

Shiny Things

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on September 19, 2008, 05:34:11 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

Oh Nice Cap BTW

Look's like there's a Summit one too... Twin peaks... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on September 20, 2008, 09:23:54 am

looks good - nearly all the components there to rebuild engine!!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on September 20, 2008, 09:24:03 pm

Looks like the valve covers are AWOL. (the package we were most worried about)(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Not to mention, they outdid themselves again! Less than a week for delivery!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

1 attaboy for USPS and Parcel Farce!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on September 21, 2008, 07:08:29 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Ho ho hooo !

Shiney things (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/polish.gif)

What's a " Carburateur " (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 22, 2008, 07:31:38 am

Quoting: sixpack2639

Looks like the valve covers are AWOL.

Hmm. I'll check the tracking number in a bit . . .

Carl - I'm assuming the Inline tube parts and the freeze plugs were in that box too, 'cos I haven't found those, yet . . .

EDIT -

Your item arrived at the delivery Post Office in GREAT BRITAIN at 11:25 PM on September 19, 2008. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.

Soooo, should see them today, maybe. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 22, 2008, 12:19:03 pm

Sammy confirms the third box HAS now arrived and appears to be in good condition . . . .

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on September 24, 2008, 11:36:10 am

Spotted this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/82-02-FIREBIRD-TRANS-AM-CAMARO-BRAND-NEW-CARPET_W0QQitemZ250299381135QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250299381135&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on September 24, 2008, 11:39:45 am

Quoting: Titsy

Spotted this:

I thought this car was going to be far too hardcore for carpet (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 24, 2008, 01:42:20 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Spotted this:

Sweet. Pity I don't have £120. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Quoting: F Body

I thought this car was going to be far too hardcore for carpet

Hardcore, yes. Pikey, no. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

EDIT - I've emailed the guy . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Fieldy on September 24, 2008, 02:23:19 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Spotted this:

Sweet. Pity I don't have £120.

Quoting: F Body
I thought this car was going to be far too hardcore for carpet

Hardcore, yes. Pikey, no.

EDIT - I've emailed the guy . . .

1000th post for you sir!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 24, 2008, 04:15:11 pm

Quoting: Fieldy

1000th post for you sir!!

Indeed !

This has grown into a mega-thread ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Let's hope the Caddy one does, too, when I start that. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on September 24, 2008, 05:35:02 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on September 24, 2008, 09:51:29 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Sammy confirms the third box HAS now arrived and appears to be in good condition . . . .

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 25, 2008, 07:12:17 am

Yep, all parts are accounted for (I completely forgot about the tap and die set !).

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ALSO.

Look again at that auction for the carpet - he's added a picture (I asked him to) - what do you reckon ?

It seems ideal to me . . . what (other)questions should I be asking ?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on September 25, 2008, 11:10:56 am

I think it would be a good option given that the centre console isn't going back in... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 25, 2008, 11:16:28 am

It looks a little . . . shape-less to me . . . dunno . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

The ones I've seen are two-part sets . . . This one obviously doesn't do the trunk area . . .

Does that matter, though ? . . . Hmm . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on September 25, 2008, 11:25:50 am

Quoting: Roadkill

This one obviously doesn't do the trunk area . . .

Does that matter, though ?

Heater removed < check >

Power Steering removed < check >

Boot carpeted (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on September 25, 2008, 11:29:45 am

Quoting: Roadkill

It looks a little . . . shape-less to me . . . dunno . . .

I'm not sure... It's difficult to tell as it's bllack... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

This one obviously doesn't do the trunk area . . .

Does that matter, though ? . . . Hmm . . . .

It does look like it onlt does the cockpit, which would leave the trunk looking a little shabby... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

And you don't want the carpet looking shabby when you've got a nice shiney Nitrous bottle in there... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on September 25, 2008, 11:30:54 am

Quoting: F Body

Heater removed < check >

Power Steering removed < check >

Boot carpeted (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Just because it's basic, doesn't mean it has to look shabby... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on September 25, 2008, 11:36:49 am

Quoting: Titsy

Just because it's basic, doesn't mean it has to look shabby...

True & if it's really cold RK can curl up in the carpet (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 25, 2008, 11:38:21 am

O.K - been doing some looking . . . Based on the pictures he has sent me it looks like this one :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__1982-83-84-85-86-87-88-89-92-Camaro-Firebird-Carpet-Set_W0QQitemZ260288315739QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ2865QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item260288315739&_trkparms=72%3A543%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

Just £60 . . . It's NOT molded, but it is GM approved.

I can't believe shipping would be more than £60 for that so I think I'm gonna wait, knowing I can get the same for a similar price.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 10, 2008, 06:53:49 pm

FINALLY - A LEGITIMATE AND WORTHY UPDATE !!!

Yup, been busy this weekend . . with funding low I decided to do some jobs that didn't cost anything - namely begin re-assembling the LT1 !

First job. Heads. These had already been cleaned and lapped but I was waiting to borrow a porting kit to gasket-match the intakes.

I became impatient and went at them with a dremel and selection of junior hand-files.

End result was good. the ports were smoother (but not too smooth) and about 50% of the metal which was "in the path of the flow" had been removed and the remaining material chamfered to promote smooth air-passage.

4 hours well spent. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Next job, proper Old sKool job, Plug Shimming. Ie shimming the plugs so that the electrode is cleanly facing the intake valve.

Unfortunately, the LT1 heads do not allow for the traditional method so I had to offer all of the new Bosch Platinum Plugs up to each hole, in turn, to achieve the best results.

It sounds long winded but I feel it was 10-15 minutes well used.

This was basically the desired outcome :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb001.jpg)

Next the lapped valves were re-installed, along with the spring seats and new Fel-Pro stem seals.

Next the new Comp Cams beehive springs, uprated retainers and locks were fitted and offered some oil to keep everything happy.

The Heads were then re-fitted and torqued accordingly.

This was now Sunday evening and I was determined to get the Ma-hoosive GM performance manifold on, too.

And so it went on . . . . as did the funky ProForm roller-rockers :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb003.jpg)

Despite attempts to sabotage the rebuild and break my garage door Titsy remained and is seen here, discussing the finer points of roller rockers . . . note Ian who'd probably been banished to the outside at that point . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb002.jpg)

And here's how it was left, basically - the Carb was just sat on as it's coming back off so the motor can be refitted - I also ran into some minor snags when coming to fit the Valve covers, too. But nothing we can't get around.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb004.jpg)

Next job is to overcome said issue with valve covers, modify slightly and fit. Then fit the alternator, then the Dizzy (from the old 305ci), then align the front pulley boss and fit the under-drive pulley . . . . . . . . . . .

PHEW ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: CJ-IROCZ on November 10, 2008, 07:32:32 pm

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Post by: art b on November 10, 2008, 08:18:22 pm

ur gettin there then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 10, 2008, 09:04:41 pm

She'll definately need a bigger carb in time - but the Edelbrock's a quick, cheap, get-me-going option for now.

Plus for change of £100 (IIRC) will be a handy spare to keep about the place in the event of a carb failure as it'll fit practically anything !

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Post by: VIPER on November 13, 2008, 12:11:14 pm

Looking good......
Keep up the good work mate(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif).....

If you need anymore info on the T56 let me know as i have the manual for it here...
There is a inline plugand play to sort out the 1st to 4th gear change..

Same box as the Viper

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Post by: Roadkill on November 13, 2008, 04:35:48 pm

Quoting: VIPER

If you need anymore info on the T56 let me know as i have the manual for it here...

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I do have a potential issue with the neutral return spring / mechanism. The shifter springs back to neutral from the 1-2 positions but not from the 5-6 positions.

I was gonna pull the shifter and an inspection plate at the top of the box to try and assess the problem but if your manual says anything on it I'd be grateful.

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The engine and box will be going in very soon so it's something I've got to sort sooner rather than later.

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Post by: art b on November 13, 2008, 05:05:04 pm

Quoting: VIPER

Same box as the Viper

should stand up to the rk abuse then

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Post by: Roadkill on November 13, 2008, 05:49:04 pm

The T5 and the T56 are worlds apart, that's for sure.

T5's are only good for Fords. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on November 13, 2008, 06:19:58 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Same box as the Viper

In design yes, in production no...
The 1993 F-Body T56 is only rated to 400 lb·ft (542 N·m) torque capacity. Where as the Dodge version is rated to 600 lb·ft (813 N·m) torque capacity.

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Post by: VIPER on November 13, 2008, 09:51:22 pm

Sorry just presumed it was the mopar version.....

Bernie down in Markyate knows all about them he has rebuilt a GT500 and a SRT/10 version...

I will still take a look in the manual for you though if you want?????

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Post by: EDGE on November 13, 2008, 10:40:57 pm

the main difference is the input shaft, i think its 26 spline as opposed to 10, i think the final drive ratio might differ too

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Post by: VIPER on November 13, 2008, 11:43:42 pm

Final drive would be different for sure no Chevy or ford could put a vipers 6th gear into use....LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by: Roadkill on November 14, 2008, 12:03:38 am

Quoting: VIPER

I will still take a look in the manual for you though if you want?????

If you could, please, mate. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 14, 2008, 12:18:24 am

UPDATE !

Tonight, albeit reduced due to overtime at work, was about problem solving.

I knew, from Sunday, that there would be issues with the clearances with the new valve covers.

Firstly the new alternator was Mahoosive so clashed with the front of the P/S valve cover (which is already notched for clearance !!).

When selecting valve covers I was limited . . 99% won't, apparently, clear the bulky roller-rockers so bigger, higher ones had to be sourced.

Of the few available even less were designed to fit the F-Bodies.

Hence I had to "suck it up" and sort the issues as they arrived.

Here's the alterator, by the way . . . .

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And here's the first problem . . . . the solid pipe from the Power Steering pump just about clashes with the corner of the valve cover.

I tried filing some off the corner but couldn't take enough off . . . in the end I cut the corner off - to be TIGed and tidied after.

Also note the bottom of the alternator . . . . originally there was less than 0.5mm clearance between it and said pipe.
But with a couple of gentle, well-placed hits with a Nylon mallet the clearance was opened up to about 1.5mm.

Much better !

(Notched valve cover on the left / alternator top / P/S pipe bottom right)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb2002.jpg)

The final - and main - task of the evening was notching the front of the valve cover to clear the back of the alternator.

Not an easy task when you're limited on tools (I thought I had some dremel attachments that it turns out I didn't !)

With the use of a file everything was cleaned up and ready to test fit . . . .

All good.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb2003.jpg)

I then fabricated a formed plate to fit in the gap (another hard task when your bench vice is out on loan ((http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)).

All done, though . . . ready to be TIGed up and polished.

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Post by: ianjpage on November 14, 2008, 10:01:27 am

cool- wots the gap like between the end of the valve cover and the rockers inside - is it as tight as we all thought it is>?>

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Post by: art b on November 14, 2008, 11:33:49 am

nice solutions....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
all the oil will leak out wiff that big hole thou...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 14, 2008, 12:04:27 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

wots the gap like between the end of the valve cover and the rockers inside

Clears the spring fine but I'd say clears the rocker pin by only 1mm-2mm.

Which is enough, of course.

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Post by: art b on November 14, 2008, 12:21:10 pm

1mm-2mm....just enough is good enough(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Gator on November 14, 2008, 05:11:38 pm

looking very cool

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Post by: ianjpage on November 14, 2008, 07:30:51 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) 2mm - miles enough clearance lol!!

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Post by: Roadkill on November 14, 2008, 09:41:55 pm

The valve covers are made from approx 2.6mm ally . . . . I think I'll file about a 1.5mm recess in the area that is close to clashing with the rocker . . . . effectively doubling the clearance.

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Post by: ianjpage on November 15, 2008, 08:23:00 am

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Post by: Roadkill on November 18, 2008, 09:32:48 am

Mini-mini Update.

I found the bellhousing-to-engine block bolts last night - that was a relief ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on November 18, 2008, 11:09:23 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I found the bellhousing-to-engine block bolts last night - that was a relief !

PHEW!!!

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Post by: Roadkill on November 19, 2008, 09:41:01 pm

UPDATE :

Last night I set about clearing the way to move the Camaro in to the garage to begin getting the motor and trans in.
There was timber everywhere from the old mezzanine (which will become the garage extension's floor) and it needed shifting.
I had about an hour before going to Yoga (Yes, Yoga) and managed to get the lot done, cleared, swept and tools away.

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With the path clear, tonight's job was simple : Do as much to the motor as possible.
I have everything to hand - it's just a matter of putting it all back together.
The main thing I wanted to end up with is the engine off of the stand (first time in just over six months) by the end of the evening.

First job (building up slowly) was to re-fit the modified Oil Level Sensor.

Now, I'm not a complete retard so decided I didn't need a retro-fitted flashy warning light thingy telling me my oil was low so got PhilO to remove the sensor guts, plug it and face it off (effectively making it a glorified bung).

That left me to tidy it on the linisher and then show it 2 hours of Nickel plating.

Ta-da ! - Refitted :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb3001.jpg)

Next was a job I was purposely putting off.

The LT1 front Pulley Hub is notorious with 4th Gen owners and has seen many F*ck it up.
It's also normally refitted in situ whereas my motor was on a stand.

Note to all LT1 owners about to do engine work - thoroughly read up on this before removing !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

With the help of a chain (bolted to the stand and hub), a hefty Torque wrench and some prayers (that the stand didn't collapse and/or fall on me with my weight swinging off of it) I got it on, torqued and aligned.

Next, with some light mallet taps went on the Under Drive pulley :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb3002.jpg)

Next mission was to find the main engine bolts . . . I had two sets - one from the Z28 and one from the Firebird which the LT1 came from - I opted to use the newer ones as the original ones were looking rusty and manky.
These were fitted to the mounts for positioning off of the stand . . .

After that the losely fitted Carb was removed and replaced with my new engine lift plate (it was the first time I'd used one so I was utterly paranoid !)

Ready for the off ! :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb3003.jpg)

My concerns were unnecesary as the plate didn't flinch a bit - In fact I can highly, HIGHLY recommend them (mine's a ProForm one - $16 or so).
The motor came free of the stand and was lowered onto a waiting arrangement of timber blocks. No problems.

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Next came a tidy up and gathering of parts - ready for tomorrow night :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb3007.jpg)

Next job is to fit a new main, rear seal, then fit the new flywheel and clutch . . . . then the engine and trans can meet again for the first time in nearly 11 months.

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Post by: ianjpage on November 19, 2008, 10:53:22 pm

looking good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

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Post by: sixpack2639 on November 20, 2008, 12:05:14 am

Quoting: ianjpage

looking good

Yeah, what he said!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I think I remember seeing some of those bits somewhere before.........(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on November 20, 2008, 01:38:47 am

Looks good m8, is it going back in tomorrow (actually today) evening then?

I'm not about to help either (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 20, 2008, 09:49:20 am

Quoting: FUBAR

is it going back in tomorrow

No, no, no. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

There's still more to do, yet.

Hopefully on sunday, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 21, 2008, 07:41:24 am

Update to follow . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 22, 2008, 12:33:44 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Update to follow . . . . .

As promised . . . .

This was last night's (well, thursdays work).

I got started late but was determined to "make an impact" as it were . . .

First job was to replace the rear one-piece oil seal. Before this, though I cleaned and degreased the whole rear of the block.

Out came the seal and, after thoroughly cleaning the area again, in went the new.

No major hassle, but getting the seal in was delicate work without the proper press.

Here's a piccy.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb4001.jpg)

Next was the flywheel. A Billet ally RAM flywheel to be exact.

I cleaned and wire wooled the rear of the crank flange to ensure optimum mating. The flywheel went on with no problems.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb4002.jpg)

Next, obviously, was the clutch. Here Shifty kindly assisted as I'd never tackled a clutch before and was anxious to get it right.

As it were, I was overly concerned for nothing. The clutch was a simple job and got done in no time at all.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb4003.jpg)

Next (and not on the night's list) was the starter motor. This had to be shimmed to clear the flywheel when in it's natural postion, then shimmed further to acheive the correct tooth-tooth spacing.

No major issues . . . and no photos either. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/homer.gif)

By this time it was getting late but the next job couldn't be denied : mate the trans with the block.

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And so it was . . . . a quick clean up of the old clutch fork and we were ready . . . after about 10 minutes of faffing we were there :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb4005.jpg)

We got done at gone ten o'clock - much later than anticipated but I was very happy.

Big upz to me home boys Shiftini for assistance - it would've been impossible without him.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 22, 2008, 12:43:44 am

Tonight's work (aside from a shopping trip to buy bits for the garage extention - saturday morning's jobs - thanks Ian) was to do something with the cylinder head "steam tubes".

This is a one-piece item that, basically, collects steam from the back of the heads and returns it to the rad . . . .

The part was manky so the original plan was to rub it down and spray paint it.

However, for some odd reason, I started polishing it after I discovered a small shiny area.

Nearly two hours, one sheet of 2000-grit wet n dry, half-sheet of 1200-grit wet n dry, some wire wool and some Autosol later it looked pretty damn cool.

With the aid of some new washers it was refitted shortly afterwards.

Albeit hard work, it still proved quicker and cheaper than painting - so I'm happy.

Time's short if I want to get the motor back in on Sunday so any time saved is good.

Pic to follow . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Here's the piccy :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb5.jpg)

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Post by: Gator on November 22, 2008, 01:36:56 pm

looks well pukka mate top job just got an aly intake for the 400 but i dont think it would stay attached to a lift plate but i could always use the steel intake for lifting i spose

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Post by: Rocky on November 22, 2008, 06:04:27 pm

If your valve covers are centre bolt you can always get the adaptor plates to make them perimeter bolt so you have a wider choice. Thats if your rockers arnt too big.

Its looking cool though(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 23, 2008, 11:18:40 am

Quoting: Gator

looks well pukka mate top job just got an aly intake for the 400 but i dont think it would stay attached to a lift plate but i could always use the steel intake for lifting i spose

I did find some research on lift plates that found that ally intakes actually survive (under destructive tests) better than cast iron ones.

Surprising, but true.

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Quoting: Rocky

If your valve covers are centre bolt you can always get the adaptor plates to make them perimeter bolt so you have a wider choice. Thats if your rockers arnt too big.

It's an idea but the main issue is the alternator positioning . . . on the LT1's in the fourth gens the valve covers were notched - on every other LT1-equiped car they weren't (I'm assuming the alternator position was slightly different.

Basically, I think the ones I've got are one of the few that stand a chance of fitting at all.

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Anyway . . . got a couple more jobs done yesterday - mainly checking bolts for torque etc . . To get it to a point where it's ready to go back in.

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Oh, and here's a piccy of the GM performance starter . . . . It's funnny as it proudly has a big red bow-tie logo on it . . . . . . unfortunately some dumb-ass at GM decided it'd look better on the side you can't actually see !!!

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Post by: Roadkill on November 24, 2008, 08:38:51 am

The Camaro is now in the garage, drying out, ready to have the motor and trans fitted.

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Thanks to Ian, PhilO, Titsy and Shiftini for pushing the Caddy and Camaro around and thanks to Vicky for piloting the Caddy the last 6 feet !

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Next job is to take the bonnet off, then find the new bolts I brought for the transmission X-member.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 27, 2008, 05:35:44 pm

Gonna hunt them bolts down tonight methinks (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/hunter.gif)

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The plan is to get the engine and trans in on Saturday . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

It'll be a relief just to get it out of the way ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on November 27, 2008, 11:13:32 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

The plan is to get the engine and trans in on Saturday . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) what time round yuours then ... 6am lol!!!

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Post by: Roadkill on November 28, 2008, 08:17:53 am

Nah . . . . Probably start at 9-10am. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on November 28, 2008, 10:54:02 am

lol ok more reasonale time then hehe

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Post by: HardRockCamaro on November 28, 2008, 11:04:21 am

Quoting: Roadkill

And so it was . . . . a quick clean up of the old clutch fork and we were ready . . . after about 10 minutes of faffing we were there :
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb4005.jpg)

Well that's just a big portion of awesome right there...

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Post by: Gator on November 28, 2008, 04:33:55 pm

this is gonna be good right we will absolutely require lots of step by step pics (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) good luck with it people

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Post by: Roadkill on November 29, 2008, 06:14:39 pm

Successful day. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

The start point :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb6007.jpg)

Next job, remove bonnet, add rags around the engine bay and freshly painted bits and fit engine.

No issues, it went in without a hitch :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb6010.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb6011.jpg)

With Carb refitted . . . :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb6014.jpg)

Next job - refit bonnet, tighten up all the mount bolts and check the 4th-Gen's radiator clearances (it fits fine) - then check potential air cleaner clearances :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb6018.jpg)

There's not enough space for an air cleaner so I'm now on the look-out for an R.S style hood which I can fit a low cowl to.

Finally a shot from underneath :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/re-assb6022.jpg)

Cheers to Ian, Titsy and Chris for assistance. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 29, 2008, 06:20:32 pm

Next job is to fit the clutch slave cylinder, then fit the prop loop.

I'll probably also offer up the old propshaft but this is being replaced by a much tougher bit of kit from Spohn before it sees the road.

After that I'll start running the brake and fuel lines from the rear to the front while Titsy makes a start on the engine bay wiring loom.

The nosecone's gonna stay off for now to give me as much space around the car as possible.

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Post by: Gator on November 29, 2008, 06:36:23 pm

well done that looks superb (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on November 29, 2008, 06:37:00 pm

t'was a very good day, lots achieved and (most of) it went without a hitch!!!

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Post by: Gator on November 29, 2008, 06:45:02 pm

how did the lift plate work out then

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Post by: Roadkill on November 29, 2008, 07:53:48 pm

Quoting: Gator

how did the lift plate work out then

Perfect.

They don't recommend using it with the trans attached (which I did (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)) so I was careful not to put shear on the carb-studs by getting it into a steep angle.

I was hoping to slide the motor and trans in at a 35* angle but to avoid scratches and dinks that was increased to nearly 45* to clear the sump !

That said the lift plate didn't flinch.

I'd highly HIGHLY recommend one. It made the whole experience simple and fast compared to ropes and slings that are always a P.I.T.A and get in the way.

I placed a cheap gasket between the lift plate and the manifold (to protect the manfold mating surface) and also made sure I used thick, heavy duty washers (2 of) under each nut on the studs.

The washers still deformed (from tightening the nuts I'll add) so it's obvious why it's important to use decent washers.

But, yeah, 10 out of 10 - I'll never use anything else for pulling a motor again unless it's an injection (and doesn't have the correct hole spacings) or the manifold has definate and obvious stud / hole / casting damage.

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Go and buy one NOW - I'd recomend the ProForm one as it's got 4 positioning holes along the top (many others have 3) plus it's FULL seam welded BOTH sides of the vertical tab (others are only stitch welded - probably enough but I'm happier with a full-seam).

All that for ~~$16 or so !~~ EDIT - $14.99

Here's where I got mine -

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ENGINE-LIFT-PLATE-NEW-PROFORM-67457-VERY-HANDY_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQitemZ220310184228QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools

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Post by: sixpack2639 on November 29, 2008, 08:09:05 pm

What about this....

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HLY%2D64280&N=700+4294839057+115&autoview=sku

It only requires about 3.5" between the carb and hood.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on November 29, 2008, 08:43:50 pm

Quoting: sixpack2639

What about this....

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HLY%2D64280&N=700+4294839057+115&autoview=sku

It only requires about 3.5" between the carb and hood.

That looks way cool, but I don't think there is 3.5" there.... Also, I wouldn't be supprised if it interfeared with the comedy sized valve covers...

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Post by: FUBAR on November 29, 2008, 10:03:02 pm

Quoting: sixpack2639

What about this....

That is exactly the thing I was trying to describe earlier today, I still doubt it would fit though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: philoldsmobile on November 30, 2008, 01:50:24 am

what about the moroso drop base air cleaners? they need very little clearance..

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on November 30, 2008, 09:13:29 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Go and buy one NOW - I'd recomend the ProForm one as it's got 4 positioning holes along the top (many others have 3) plus it's FULL seam welded BOTH sides of the vertical tab (others are only stitch welded - probably enough but I'm happier with a full-seam).

All that for $16 or so ! EDIT - $14.99

Here's where I got mine -

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ENGINE-LIFT-PLATE-NEW-PROFORM-67457-VERY-HANDY_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQitemZ220310184228QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools

im gonna mate but i am still going to use the old cast intake to lift coz i would just kak myself and my new intake is just too expensive to risk

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Post by: v8mad0 on November 30, 2008, 12:03:55 pm

looking good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 30, 2008, 01:21:56 pm

Quoting: Titsy

That looks way cool, but I don't think there is 3.5" there.... Also, I wouldn't be supprised if it interfeared with the comedy sized valve covers...

Exactly - it's nearly $300 and a bit of a risk if it doesn't fit - also the Edelbrock's not likely to remain on there for long . . . So I need to be giving myself as much space a possible.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quoting: Gator

im gonna mate but i am still going to use the old cast intake to lift coz i would just kak myself and my new intake is just too expensive to risk

Good on ya' - and furry muff - after seeing the new intake you've got I wouldn't risk it either.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: v8mad0

looking good

Cheers, matey - I'll be firing across an email to you soon regarding picking up something . . . . I just need to find a free day, first !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Gator on November 30, 2008, 03:00:53 pm

why not adapt the existing hood or do you want a stock look ?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 30, 2008, 03:25:37 pm

Quoting: Gator

why not adapt the existing hood or do you want a stock look ?

Weeeelll - The stock hood (a Z28-type with indents) is a rare factory fibreglass one so to cut that about would be silly.

Hence the plan to get a flat (non "vented") R.S style hood and cut that about.

I've been on ebay this afternoon, among other this, trying to find a cowl to bolt-on to said R.S hood and then adapt the hood below to fit the air cleaner through.

So far no joy - I haven't found anything that I feel would work. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on December 10, 2008, 12:32:21 pm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1983-chevrolet-camero-parts_W0QQitemZ330292492171QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item330292492171&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Might be worth seeing if he still has the hood... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on December 10, 2008, 02:03:31 pm

Message sent, cheers Titsy, but would guess it would be the Z28 hood - not the R.S.

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Post by: Rocky on December 10, 2008, 07:21:34 pm

Might have an RS hood coming in soon.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 10, 2008, 08:18:30 pm

Quoting: Rocky

Might have an RS hood coming in soon.

If it's going - let us know a price. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Rob on December 17, 2008, 08:43:37 am

Might be worth a try.......

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHEVROLET-CAMARO-IROCZ-CONVERTIBLE_W0QQitemZ140289188030QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item140289188030&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Rob on December 19, 2008, 06:21:08 pm

......or this guy is breaking a whole heap of F-body's

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHEVROLET-CAMARO-PONTIAC-TRANS-AM-FIREBIRD_W0QQitemZ270315836078QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item270315836078&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A7%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on December 19, 2008, 06:51:29 pm

Quoting: Rob

...or this guy Who needs slapping for writing all the text in massive size in different colours through the advert

I got a headache now (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/slap.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 19, 2008, 08:12:30 pm

Thanks for the links - but -

Quoting: Rob

Might be worth a try.......

No joy - T'was an IROC

Quoting: Rob

......or this guy is breaking a whole heap of F-body's

Oddly enough only one third-gen and that was a F'Bird.

Shall keep looking. There's no major rush at the mo, anyway . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 24, 2008, 05:56:40 pm

To get you up to speed . . . .

Work in the engine bay has been the task recently . . . Titsy has been making up a dummy loom to start planning the real thing.

Various connectors and other bits I already have but It's kinda waiting for me to choose my gauges, now . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Today's update :

I've been fairly busy doing all manner of things today but managed to dedicate a couple of hours to the Camaro, too . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

The next major jobs, for me, are the brake and fuel lines . . .

Now the brake lines still require the line-lock finalising so these are on hold for now but the fuel line is a priority so I started on that . . .

I finished rebuilding the Holley regulator, complete with new brass fittings, and re-mounted in it's previous position on the bulkhead.

Next I fitted the new 90* fuel banjo to the Carb (this directs the fuel line back toward the bulkhead instead of randomly pointing it over the valve covers . . ).

I had previously brought some ally fuel line from Jegs a while back and decided, in order to minimise rubber hose, that I'd also use this between the regulator and carb - using only short pieces of rubber fuel hose to join the "butted-up" hose-to-fuel fittings.

With the help of a standard pipe cutter and some careful bending and re-bending this is where we are at the moment . . . note the first of two fuel filters mounted below the regulator - the next will be mounted before the pump at the back of the car.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed-fuel002.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Zed-fuel001.jpg)

I even gave the ally 'line a quick Autosol-up to make it look prettier . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

EDIT - I also ordered the new, shorter, Serp-belt . . . should be here within the next couple of weeks.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: F Body on December 24, 2008, 06:09:17 pm

Gotta luv the detail in all the jubilee clips lining up (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

I even gave the ally 'line a quick Autosol-up to make it look prettier . .

I think your turning into me (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/polish.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on December 24, 2008, 07:05:47 pm

Quoting: F Body

Gotta luv the detail in all the jubilee clips lining up

This is one thing I insist on . . . I also try to hide the screw as best I can - something impossible on the ones near the carb as underneath there's a clamp for the choke . . . the others are nicely hidden away, though.

Quoting: F Body

I think your turning into me

Whoa, whoa . . steady on. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: VIPER on December 24, 2008, 07:40:07 pm

Mikalor do some great SS clips....

Its all i use on the Viper

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 24, 2008, 07:42:05 pm

Quoting: VIPER

Malkilor

Just googled that and came up with nowt. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on December 26, 2008, 08:43:57 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Just googled that and came up with nowt.

http://www.powerengineering.co.uk/mikalor/
http://www.mikalor.com/

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 26, 2008, 11:29:21 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Cool, ta. Will bare in mind.

EDIT

I'm currently after P-Clips at the moment . . . is there anywhere local that sells them ??

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 27, 2008, 05:48:15 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm currently after P-Clips at the moment . . . is there anywhere local that sells them ??

Just ordered a selection of rubber-over zinc-plated metal P-Clips.

Also ordered some 4mm vacuum hose for when I come to re-do the line to the dizzy . . . plus I also needed some for the cruise control wotsit for the Eldo and, thankfully, it's the same size !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

So I brought 10-foot of the stuff. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: VIPER on December 27, 2008, 09:26:06 pm

SORRY dodgey spelling.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I use the high pressure ones because they look good...

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Post by: Roadkill on January 13, 2009, 08:20:15 am

Mini-Update . . . .

Have got the Valve Covers back from PhilO and they're much better . . . not mirror finish but pretty damn close. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

I gave the oil filler cap a good polish last night, too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Am currently bidding on material to make up the appropriate gaskets for them . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Last night I brought a billet ally PCV breather plug from the states, just £9, t'was a bargain. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I'll be chasing the serp belt today, too . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

Just ordered a selection of rubber-over zinc-plated metal P-Clips.

Also ordered some 4mm vacuum hose for when I come to re-do the line to the dizzy . . .

These have arrived and will do the job perfectly. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Unfortunately the next purchases on the list aren't quite as cheap . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 14, 2009, 09:53:42 am

I'm gradually working through the list of minor bits required for the'Maro . . . now this leaves three major purchases left before I can get this sucker rollin'. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Firstly - and I'm told most importantly - Gauges.

This has been Titsy's domain and he's come up with these babies :

http://www.speedhut.com/custom_gauge_description-gauge_type-Kit-auto_number-714.htm

A snip at $690 - for a limited time only. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Secondly - Headers . . . I have a choice - kind of.

Firstly Spohn do a S/S set, for $800 but are unable, it seems, to confirm if they'll clear my transmission or not.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

So I spoke to Hooker (huh-huh). They've confirmed that the 2210's are the way to go - especially with the LT1 . . . available H/T black at $510 or Ceramic for $740.

Turdly . . . Propshaft . . .

This isn't critical as I still have the old one - however the one I'm eyeballing is a Spohn H/D at $360

Nearly there. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I'd better buy a new battery, too . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: F Body on January 14, 2009, 12:47:06 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Titsy's domain and he's come up with these babies :

Like those (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

available H/T black at $510 or Ceramic for $740.

A lot of Wonga for the ceramic one's but the paint won't flake off like the HT one's (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on January 14, 2009, 01:12:10 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Have got the Valve Covers back from PhilO and they're much better . . . not mirror finish but pretty damn close.

No access to the polisher for months eh Phillis!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 14, 2009, 01:39:30 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

No access to the polisher for months eh Phillis!!

He did them *cough* by hand. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on January 14, 2009, 04:33:40 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

He did them *cough* by hand.

You do realize that if you don't keep all these shiney parts polished they are going to look even worse than left unpolished (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Trust me I've polished things you can only dream of (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/polish.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 15, 2009, 08:30:26 am

Quoting: F Body

all these shiney parts

I've only got three separate shiny parts ! (2 valve covers and an alternator).

I've been very clever about that ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on January 15, 2009, 12:46:52 pm

All in very reachable positions too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on January 15, 2009, 01:02:32 pm

Well I have to say that I really don't like engine compartments to shiney (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Examples :

That blue 71 Vette you see at all the shows with everything chrome plated (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Those plastic mirror panels you can be to fit inside your hood (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

The chrome plastic cable sleeeves the Chav boys use (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Sometimes less is more (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 15, 2009, 06:45:07 pm

Titsy :

http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/1402/10002/-1

And

http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/1498/10002/-1

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Rocky on January 15, 2009, 06:51:12 pm

The spohn headers arnt supposed to fit but some people have got them on.
Just dont go with headman headers i dont recommend them.
There were some on ebay.uk for your motor for a good price in stainless never used the guys though.

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Post by: F Body on January 15, 2009, 06:55:10 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Titsy :

http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/1402/10002/-1

And

http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/1498/10002/-1

Not as nice as the first ones (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on January 15, 2009, 06:59:34 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Titsy :

http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/1402/10002/-1

And

http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/1498/10002/-1

I'll do some reading... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif) You would need to make your own dash panel though as the Autometer speedo and tach will not fit the one on eBay...

FYI, the speedhut set with shiftlight, warning lights, and sensors worked out at $606.70

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 15, 2009, 07:12:02 pm

Will most likely need access to your fuel level sender to check if the fuel gauge will work...

Update

From the description it looks like you would need a replacement fuel level sender: http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/3262/10002/-1 but I would need to check the one you have to be sure...

Further Update

Everything else looks fine, so the only issues are the fuel level sender and the dash panel...

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Post by: Roadkill on January 15, 2009, 08:44:49 pm

Quoting: Titsy

I would need to check the one you have to be sure...

O.K . . . .

As in take it out or just get to the top ?

Quoting: Titsy

FYI, the speedhut set with shiftlight, warning lights, and sensors worked out at $606.70

Yeah ?

I must've gone to the wrong link, then. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 15, 2009, 08:46:10 pm

Quoting: Rocky

The spohn headers arnt supposed to fit but some people have got them on.

Do you know what mods are required ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Quoting: Rocky

Just dont go with headman headers i dont recommend them.

I need the larger primaries (to match the LT1's odd ports) so they're not even an option. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 15, 2009, 10:58:47 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

O.K . . . .

As in take it out or just get to the top ?

Take it out...

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Post by: Roadkill on January 16, 2009, 08:20:30 am

Quoting: Titsy

Take it out...

Crap.

That means dropping the tank. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 16, 2009, 09:01:46 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Crap.

That means dropping the tank.

Sorry mate, It's that or fill it with fuel...

The Autometer gauges use old school potential divider circuits (rather than microcontrollers which would make then universal) and so has to be matched to the senders.

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Post by: Roadkill on January 16, 2009, 09:43:21 am

Quoting: Titsy

It's that or fill it with fuel...

Would that work, too ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 16, 2009, 12:37:15 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Would that work, too ?

Yes, if it's empty now and we brim it...

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 16, 2009, 02:14:33 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Yes, if it's empty now and we brim it...

I'd prefer that approach, to be honest . . . It'll need filling up soon-ish anyway . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 16, 2009, 07:27:20 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'd prefer that approach, to be honest . . . It'll need filling up soon-ish anyway . . .

Be aware that if we fill it up and it turns out the way I think it is going to, and you still intend to use the Autometer gauges, you will have to change the sender and hence drop the tank out... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 16, 2009, 09:19:22 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I'll chat to you about it, then . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 17, 2009, 08:25:08 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll be chasing the serp belt today, too . . .

The first one I got was a tad too short but I've exchanged it for a much better match . . T'is now sorted and fitted.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on January 17, 2009, 08:28:57 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

T'is now sorted and fitted.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/pics.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on January 17, 2009, 10:57:21 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

The first one I got was a tad too short but I've exchanged it for a much better match . . T'is now sorted and fitted.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 18, 2009, 08:31:21 pm

I ain't posting pictures of a bloody serp belt !

I did win the cork to make the valve cover gaskets out of, today, so when I get that and fit the valve covers I'll take a picture of both. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Rob on January 19, 2009, 10:40:41 am

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHEVY-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-3RD-GENERATION_W0QQitemZ160310853591QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item160310853591&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Rob on January 19, 2009, 10:46:06 am

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1990-CHEVROLET-GMC-CAMARO-BLUE-T-TOPS_W0QQitemZ170295353532QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item170295353532&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on January 19, 2009, 12:59:28 pm

Quoting: Rob

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk

The 1st one has to be worth a punt, the 2nd at £600 will a be a bit rich for RK (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 19, 2009, 02:24:23 pm

I'd be very interested in the second one . . not only has it got the flat bonnet but also the GFX that I like . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Edit - anyone fancy going halves ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on January 19, 2009, 02:55:25 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Edit - anyone fancy going halves ?

if only i had the cash....

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 20, 2009, 10:03:07 am

Titsy !

Have a look at this - totally 80's pimptastic . .

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=NRD%2DDP4003R&N=700+4294908216+4294908198+4294925044+4294925228+115&autoview=sku

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-89-CAMARO-GAUGE-SET-WITH-CUSTOM-DASH-INSERT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c293Q3a3Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem290290427742QQitemZ290290427742QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 20, 2009, 11:40:03 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Have a look at this - totally 80's pimptastic . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/pimp.gif)

I didn't think you liked digital readouts though... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on January 20, 2009, 12:51:24 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Have a look at this - totally 80's pimptastic . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif) IMHO it looks tacky (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

1982-89-CAMARO-GAUGE-SET-WITH-CUSTOM-DASH-

That looks very neat and with the right gauges would be (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 20, 2009, 03:12:58 pm

Quoting: Titsy

I didn't think you liked digital readouts though...

Don't mind them . . . I'm just very concios of time at the moment and want to push this along . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I prefer the second link, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 20, 2009, 11:32:45 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I prefer the second link, though

Really? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) They look awful... The cresent on the back end of the needle makes them look like they should be on a wild west locomotive.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Mr Nastey

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on January 21, 2009, 08:14:37 am

digital would be cool, very 80's (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Just need to paint it black and.......... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 21, 2009, 08:52:07 am

I was looking again at the Dakota Digital stuff . . . . Now that is cool.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: HardRockCamaro on January 21, 2009, 11:30:04 am

Digital dashes are v cool on 80'ss cars if they look period as obviously, the 80s was the era when electronics were big.

Super modern cars can have digital but only if based on LCD screens with fancy graphics.

90s cars and 70s and prior should not have digital.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 21, 2009, 07:58:33 pm

The cork gasket material arrived today. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

So that's a job for me this weekend. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Also USPS report that my PCV push in has cleared customs this morning. Hopefully I'll see it before the weekend, too.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 21, 2009, 10:28:11 pm

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/hoses/hoses.php#pipe

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 22, 2009, 08:17:15 am

Cool, Ta. Some useful bits in there . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on January 22, 2009, 12:50:42 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Ta. Some useful bits in there .

Some good bike bits as well (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 23, 2009, 11:11:37 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Also USPS report that my PCV push in has cleared customs this morning. Hopefully I'll see it before the weekend, too.

Apparently I signed for it at 9.49am . . . . . . . . . trouble is I was at work then as was Sammy . . . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Wonder where that ended up, then ?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on January 23, 2009, 11:23:47 am

LOL thats interesting.......unless a neighbour took it in.....can't they tell ya where it was delviered / who signed for it??

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 23, 2009, 12:31:02 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Apparently I signed for it at 9.49am . . . . . . . . . trouble is I was at work then as was Sammy . . . . . .

Wonder where that ended up, then ?

must have been the burglers signed for it...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 23, 2009, 03:56:15 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

who signed for it??

It says I signed for it ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on January 23, 2009, 04:13:45 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It says I signed for it !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 23, 2009, 06:35:12 pm

Well . . in the end the postie just signed for it himself and left it under the Caddy !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

It means I got it and didn't need to bugger about going down the sorting office . . .

On a side note the PCV valve is absolutely outstanding quality . . I brought a pair (PCV and breather) for the 305ci which were the same price and good quality however this one is excellent quality.

Highly polished, well machined with subtle details. It's even machined inside to promote airflow !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

All that and it came in its own box, in a further shipping box 10 times the size of the first !!!

TO say it was $15 well spent is and understatement ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on January 23, 2009, 07:36:08 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

TO say it was $15 well spent is and understatement !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

F Body Moto No.3 " Cheap is good, free is better " (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 23, 2009, 08:06:26 pm

Cheap is sometimes good . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on January 23, 2009, 09:15:48 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Well . . in the end the postie just signed for it himself and left it under the Caddy !

cool thats handy then nice mr postie!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 24, 2009, 04:44:31 pm

UPDATE !!!

Part 1 . . .

Here's a picture of the custom notched valve cover . . . thanks to PhilO for the welding . . the nasty score marks were by my hand, unfortunately - my vice is on loan and I was very hampered getting "at it".

Worked, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/VC001.jpg)

Next is the oh-so-cool-bargain breather. Most pimp-ness. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/pimp.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/VC003.jpg)

Next the home-made 5mm cork gaskets for the valve covers . . . these were still a bit fiddley but I reckon they'll work better than the "stock" gaskets. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/VC004.jpg)

The gaskets are still work in progress at the moment . . I'll see how they behave once the engine's been run. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 24, 2009, 04:52:04 pm

Part 2 . . .

The valve covers fitted - note the alternator had to be removed - as did the serp belt. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/VC005.jpg)

These next two pictures really show why that valve cover had to be notched further - F*ck knows how Canton have got away with saying they fit the F-Body LT1. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

No biggie, though - It's kinda cool adding subtle mods to things, I reckon. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/VC006.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/VC007.jpg)

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Post by: F Body on January 24, 2009, 04:53:34 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

the nasty score marks were by my hand,

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/slap.gif)

You won't be able to see that bit anyway will you (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

Next the home-made 5mm cork gaskets for the valve covers .

Looking good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on January 24, 2009, 04:55:56 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It's kinda cool adding subtle mods to things, I reckon.

Jeeze that is still pretty tight (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 24, 2009, 04:59:10 pm

Part 3 . . .

The overall picture(s) at the moment.

It's views like this that keep me going !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/VC010.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/VC008.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/VC009.jpg)

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Post by: F Body on January 24, 2009, 05:01:48 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It's views like this that keep me going !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/jerkoff.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Said like a true petrol head (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/drive.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 24, 2009, 05:03:03 pm

Quoting: F Body

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/slap.gif)

I know, I know - I was on a kinda deadline at the time so had little choice.

Quoting: F Body

You won't be able to see that bit anyway will you

No, not at all.

Quoting: F Body

Jeeze that is still pretty tight

Yup. Couldn't take anymore off though as the roller rockers are wider than the stock pressed ones meaning, obviously, they need more space.

I even had to file a 1mm groove inside the cover on the fold-line of the notch to allow further clearance for the rockers !!!

Tight alright. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: F Body on January 24, 2009, 05:15:45 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I even had to file a 1mm groove inside the cover

Double Jeeze (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Lets hope that they locate spot on (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on January 24, 2009, 05:22:29 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

my vice is on loan

Dude, you should have given me a call an I would have brought it right over.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on January 24, 2009, 05:47:06 pm

Looking Awesome!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: HardRockCamaro on January 24, 2009, 06:02:49 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/VC010.jpg)

Now that's purdy!!!
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 24, 2009, 06:44:35 pm

mm looking uber sweet (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 27, 2009, 07:36:52 pm

3 Day Sale on Optima BlueTop Batteries at Summit Racing

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 28, 2009, 12:00:02 am

Deano, this is a total bargin at it's current price:

Chevrolet Camaro / Pontiac Firebird Radiator

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 28, 2009, 12:01:53 am

As is this...

S480 T6 TURBO GT4708 GT4780 1200HP+ T6 AR1.39

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/turbo.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 28, 2009, 09:41:40 am

Quoting: Titsy

3 Day Sale on Optima BlueTop Batteries at Summit Racing

I thought blue tops were for boats ?

I thought I needed a Yellow top ?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 28, 2009, 09:44:12 am

Quoting: Titsy

Deano, this is a total bargin at it's current price:

Chevrolet Camaro / Pontiac Firebird Radiator

Am now watching. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Quoting: Titsy

As is this...

S480 T6 TURBO GT4708 GT4780 1200HP+ T6 AR1.39

Something tells me that's going to go for more than 99p (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on January 28, 2009, 01:14:27 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Something tells me that's going to go for more than 99p

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)

2nd'ed (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 28, 2009, 01:16:35 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Something tells me that's going to go for more than 99p

Yup, now at £1.04 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on January 28, 2009, 01:20:04 pm

:smartarse: (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 28, 2009, 05:15:04 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Yup, now at £1.04

Too rich for my blood. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: F Body on January 28, 2009, 05:26:40 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Something tells me that's going to go for more than 99p

Now at £39.99, got to go for over £100 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 06, 2009, 11:19:50 am

Quoting: Titsy

Deano, this is a total bargin at it's current price:

Chevrolet Camaro / Pontiac Firebird Radiator

Quoting: Roadkill

Am now watching

Acquired. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

It's blown me out for this month, though ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Thank f*ck it's a council tax-free month ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on February 06, 2009, 11:36:06 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Acquired.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on February 06, 2009, 01:33:36 pm

Quoting: F Body

Now at £39.99, got to go for over £100

£261 in the end...

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Post by: F Body on February 06, 2009, 01:52:55 pm

Quoting: Titsy

£261 in the end...

Is it really worth that much (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 24, 2009, 09:28:43 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Am now watching

Quoting: Roadkill

Acquired

Have still not received the radiator so emailed bauer millett yesterday.

They responded quickly saying they'll speak to the courier first thing this morning.

It was found at my "local" depot, obviously undelivered.

It'll be sent out tomorrow . . the courier are refunding bauer millett the £10.50 charge and they're passing it on to me as a good will gesture.

It hasn't slowed me down any and, providing it's still in one piece, I'm a happy bunny with the refund.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on February 24, 2009, 09:33:55 am

cool nice of them to refund ya!!

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Post by: art b on February 24, 2009, 12:02:07 pm

looking good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
nice and shiney too....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 26, 2009, 11:08:08 am

Need to get the Gauge issue sorted ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

I'm really, really liking this . . .

http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=168/category_id=320/home_id=59/mode=prod/prd168.htm

(http://www.dakotadigital.com/cartimages/prd_zm_168.jpg)

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Post by: Incursus on February 26, 2009, 11:34:36 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm really, really liking this . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

But for some reason reminded of some HHGTTG (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: h2g2

The logic behind the creation of Digital watches can be explained in two manners; The first of which explains the nature of life-kind and which states that order is kept through laziness and that without laziness there would be no reason for convenience - and, without convenience, no need for doing things in a straightforward, blunt, and simple manner. The second, and preferred definition is simply that "Primitive life forms think that they are a pretty neat idea".

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Post by: Jamieg285 on February 26, 2009, 12:13:44 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: Titsy
3 Day Sale on Optima BlueTop Batteries at Summit Racing

I thought blue tops were for boats ?

I thought I needed a Yellow top ?

Blue - Marine
Yellow - Deep Cycle = Audio

Red is what you want.

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Post by: ianjpage on February 26, 2009, 12:29:07 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Blue - Marine
Yellow - Deep Cycle = Audio

Red is what you want.

yellow is good for cars that tend to stand alot though it seems....

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Post by: F Body on February 26, 2009, 12:30:51 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Red is what you want.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)

Red LED's was the 80's (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on February 26, 2009, 12:46:16 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Blue - Marine
Yellow - Deep Cycle = Audio

Red is what you want.

Quoting: ianjpage

yellow is good for cars that tend to stand alot though it seems....

And blue are good for cars that leak alot...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on February 26, 2009, 12:49:38 pm

Quoting: Titsy

And blue are good for cars that leak alot...

lol (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on February 26, 2009, 12:50:04 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Need to get the Gauge issue sorted !

I'm really, really liking this . . .

Looks good to me... do it... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 26, 2009, 03:04:59 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Red is what you want.

Quoting: F Body

Red LED's was the 80's

We were talking about batteries at that point, Martyn. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on February 26, 2009, 05:35:00 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

We were talking about batteries at that point, Martyn

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/old.gif) Well I try to keep up (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 27, 2009, 08:37:48 am

Link dump for later reading (re the fitting for Hooker 2210's)

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/exhaust/148210-notes-installation-hooker-long.html

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on February 27, 2009, 12:16:13 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: Jamieg285
Red is what you want.

Quoting: F Body
Red LED's was the 80's

We were talking about batteries at that point, Martyn.

Since when has the actual topic in discussion been a factor in the following replies?

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Post by: F Body on February 27, 2009, 12:36:09 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Since when has the actual topic in discussion been a factor in the following replies?

Tis the MKB way (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mkb.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on February 27, 2009, 02:53:15 pm

Hmm, i'm not keen on the digital dash TBH... i'd much prefer gauges to look at, not my car tho.

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Post by: Roadkill on February 27, 2009, 04:16:20 pm

I still can't make up my mind . . . . I don't mind digital temp/fuel/alt etc . . . But really do prefer a manual tach . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

*

Quoting: Jamieg285

Red is what you want.

Actually that's cool because the Red's tend to be cheaper. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 13, 2009, 10:52:19 am

I thought I'd start composing a shopping list of stuff STILL required to get this b!tch back a' rollin'.

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It's scary . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

Gauges -

I'm gonna go for needle gauges as I honestly don't think I'd be happy with digital-type ones, long-term.

So.

Autometer, Designer Black :

Kit # 1402 - $379.99
Tach # 1490 - $109.99
Fuel # 1415 - $49.99

There's other gauges I need - but this'll get me going . . . .

Gauge face to fit the above . . . .

$55.00 - from eBay U.S

**********************************************************

P/S Hoses . . . . . . . .still an unknown.

Headers . . . . . . . . . still an unknown.

Battery - Optima Red . . . . . £125

Battery tray - Billet . . . . . . $69.99

Prop shaft . . . . . . . Spohn - $360.00

Sway Bar brackets . . Spohn - $75.00 (I made-up a set but I'm not happy with them)

Dizzy hold-down clamp (silly, I know, but I haven't got one !) - $12

Coolant level sensor . . . . . . . $50ish - am looking into.

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Post by: F Body on March 13, 2009, 11:48:54 am

Quoting: Roadkill

thought I'd start composing a shopping list of stuff STILL required to get this b!tch back a' rollin'.

It's scary .

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Better put the rent up (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on March 13, 2009, 12:54:16 pm

Quoting: F Body

Better put the rent up

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Post by: FUBAR on March 13, 2009, 01:45:00 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Rocky on March 15, 2009, 10:51:24 am

Are you gettng rid of your old dials im looking for a 80mph dash for a customers car?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 15, 2009, 08:46:00 pm

Quoting: Rocky

Are you gettng rid of your old dials im looking for a 80mph dash for a customers car?

Yep, they'll be going (they don't work with the speedo input) . . . . They're the MPH one side, KPH the other side kind . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on March 16, 2009, 08:41:45 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Gauge face to fit the above . . . .

$55.00 - from eBay U.S

Brought. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

Dizzy hold-down clamp (silly, I know, but I haven't got one !) - $12

Brought. Although I'm having trouble paypal'ing the guy. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Next on the list is the Coolant level sensor, some washers to seal the oil cooler, the battery and then the gauges.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1035874,parttype,2184

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 17, 2009, 02:51:23 pm

Currently trying to buy various parts but most sellers block you if you're outside the U.S.

Bleedin' cretins !

Needless to say a batch of emails have been sent ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 18, 2009, 05:47:09 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Currently trying to buy various parts but most sellers block you if you're outside the U.S.

Bleedin' cretins !

Needless to say a batch of emails have been sent !

I give up ! - It's like they don't want my money ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I have managed to sort some stuff out, though . . . full list to be posted tomorrow . . . . .

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 19, 2009, 09:40:31 pm

Shed loads of stuff ordered today . . . details to follow . . . .

MINI-UPDATE

I've been having a minor issue with the Hurst Shifter for the T56 . . . the shifter wasn't returning to the N (3-4) position from 5-6 but was fine from 1-2 . . .

I suspected a missing spring (basically they install two each side but you can remove one to acheive a girly soft return) and surely enough one side had the secondary spring missing.

A quick, secure and simple piece of engineering later and plenty of grease (it looked very dry in there) and it now returns sharply and smoothly.

Nice. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: VIPER on March 19, 2009, 10:29:55 pm

I Have a brand new Hurst for a Viper here in the box......

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 19, 2009, 11:09:21 pm

I loved the Hurst on my old T5 . . . they've stopped making them for the (GM) T56 so it took a bit of looking to find a new-old-stock one.

I'm glad I didn't settle for the cheaper alternative. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: VIPER on March 20, 2009, 10:40:55 am

I got the B&M on mine as i prefer the lower shift point..

Great work .....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 20, 2009, 04:15:52 pm

Hopefully this works . . .

SHIPPING LIST PART 1

http://www.mkb.cc/forum/index.php?action=downloadfile&topic=5473&upfile=138176&sub=1

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Post by: ianjpage on March 21, 2009, 08:34:25 am

o lots of bits ordered then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 22, 2009, 09:53:08 am

UPDATE !

Got a few bits done, yesterday . . . Titsy managed to re-connect the fuel sender then I set him to work on some Eldo-gremlins.

Me and Ian spent the whole day on our backs (Ooo-er) first filling the diff up with oil (significant as this is the first fluid to be put back in at this point) we then fitted the "front-to-back" S/S brake line (pre-bent from inline tube) and connected the axle lines to the coupling block and then that to the new line.

Afterwards, after deciding the fuel pump was in a daft position, we moved it closer the tank, in front of the axle, cutting out about 5' of fuel hose !

Also, in the process of fitting the pump, fitted the second of two fuel filters.

Next (now almost dark) we started fitting the custom aluminium fuel line (this was from the coil) and every bend and contour had to be formed.

However it went perfectly and followed the brake lines cock-on until travelling under the trans tunnel and up into the engine bay to the regulator.

Neither end of the fuel line is connected at the moment . . . I need to acquire more clips - so that's the next job.
After that it's fitting the prop loop then, I think, she can be dropped off of the axle stands.

Thanks to Titsy for assistance, Chris for Go-fer and tea boy duties and mega thanks to Ian for his help under the Camaro !

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Pictures to follow.

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Post by: F Body on March 22, 2009, 12:38:38 pm

Sounds like a good days work (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 22, 2009, 08:10:56 pm

Shiny, shiny . . . here's the new, sealed-in-box radiator.

Bargain for £103. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Here's the pics from yesterday . . the fuel pump in (hopefuly) its final position !

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The new S/S brake line and 3/8" ally fuel line . . .

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A piccy showing the master cylinder end . . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on March 22, 2009, 08:33:31 pm

mmm nice and shiny (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) was a very productive day, even it if was laying down it were still hard work lol!!

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Post by: Titsy on March 22, 2009, 08:41:02 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on March 22, 2009, 08:50:45 pm

Wow! Thats really nice work! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Top job guys!

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Post by: Incursus on March 23, 2009, 08:09:51 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Chris for Go-fer and tea boy duties

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(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Oh dibs on first (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/hunter.gif) when she's finished!!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/drive.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on March 23, 2009, 08:16:54 am

Quoting: Incursus

Oh dibs on first when she's finished!!!

LOL i think that will be a very long line of willing passengers!!

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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2009, 08:54:39 am

I've still not decided if I'm putting in the other seat yet. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

It's all extra weight ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on March 23, 2009, 08:58:03 am

Quoting: ianjpage

Quoting: Incursus
Oh dibs on first when she's finished!!!

LOL i think that will be a very long line of willing passengers!!

Indeed but

Quoting: Incursus

dibs on first

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Quoting: Roadkill

I've still not decided if I'm putting in the other seat yet.

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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2009, 10:05:20 am

Quoting: Incursus

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

Awww, you can sit on the floor - "Death Proof" style. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on March 23, 2009, 10:20:06 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Awww, you can sit on the floor - "Death Proof" style.

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Post by: Titsy on March 23, 2009, 12:22:37 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It's all extra weight !

Did someone call my name? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Well my main role on the project has been as ballast...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2009, 03:54:19 pm

Tonights job is to extend the hole in the floor pan for the shifter and connect the fuel line at both ends of the car.

Next will be to re-fix the trans - but not before chasing out the threads first !!!

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Post by: FUBAR on March 23, 2009, 05:28:30 pm

All Looking good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2009, 08:07:22 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Tonights job is to extend the hole in the floor pan for the shifter

Done - and re-fitted the shifter.

That was about it in the end . . . had a tidy up but by the time I'd done with the floor pan my gut was telling me it's dinner time.

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Hopefully get the gearbox re-mounted tomorrow . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on March 25, 2009, 12:45:08 am

http://lt1conversion.com/Products_Pigtails_LT1_Alt.htm

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 25, 2009, 12:47:12 pm

Is the "single wire" the right one ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on March 25, 2009, 12:58:13 pm

Yup...

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Post by: Roadkill on March 25, 2009, 01:52:21 pm

Brought.

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Post by: Roadkill on March 25, 2009, 03:32:53 pm

The final list of brought items that should see the 'Maro's motor running . . . .

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http://www.mkb.cc/forum/index.php?action=downloadfile&topic=5473&upfile=138365&sub=1

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Post by: ianjpage on March 25, 2009, 03:43:55 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 25, 2009, 05:46:24 pm

Quoting: Roadkill on 26 March 2007 (page 4)

UPDATE ON CAMARO

Gearbox is out. As is the Prop.

I tightened the loose wheel bearing yesterday as well so that's sorted.

I'm probably gonna drop the rear axle off as well and take that to Hauser to fit the LSD.

Seems like a good idea as then I can put the "fresh" axle on with New shocks, new springs and a fresh gearbox rebuild.

Should drive like a completely different car !

COSTS

LSD - £75 - Paid
Fitting of - £180 (phone quote)
Springs - £170 - Paid
Shocks - £275 - Paid
Gearbox rebuild - £450 (phone quote)
New S/S brakelines - £100 - Paid

TOTAL - £1,250.

I think it's fair to put the insured value up a little bit for that lot.

Wow. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Just looking back . . . It's odd - it's only been 2 years but it feels longer . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I'm also starting to tot-up the costs, now, too !

I must stop that - it's not healthy. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 25, 2009, 05:52:25 pm

Quoting: Roadkill on 26 June 2006

. . . . I just want to get her done and happily drivable out of the way so I can worry about other projects . . .

Well that didn't work did it ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill on 20 March 2007

I've now decided to keep the Camaro

Yeah, she was for sale for a while . . . wonder what I'd be doing if she'd sold ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

It's actually refreshing looking back . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 25, 2009, 08:16:10 pm

UPDATE FROM YESTERDAY :

Trans has now been bolted up, securely. Prop loop is test-fitted (all 8 holes drilled) and the area which was cut out the day before has been POR15'ed.
The fuel line has also been connected at the rear and the (old) prop test-fitted then removed again.

Shifter works fine, by the way. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

The Camaro is now back on its wheels . . I measured for ground clearance and took a chance and ordered the Doug's long tubes . . fingers crossed, there.

Everything, I believe, has been purchased . . . . .

Next job is to move the Camaro out of the garage so I can connect the fuel line in the engine bay . . . then remove the front wheels to fit the calipers, pads, flexi's and front hard brake pipes.
I've also got to make up a couple of vacuum lines for the engine bay, too and fit the filter for the brake booster . . .

Cheers to Titsy last night for tranny-related assistance (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) and to Chris who did . . . err . . . well, something. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: F Body on March 25, 2009, 08:41:41 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

The final list of brought items that should see the 'Maro's motor running . . . .

What are you doing for the actual exhaust system (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

The BIG question is when do you think she'll hit the road again (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on March 26, 2009, 07:52:02 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I measured for ground clearance and took a chance and ordered the Doug's long tubes . .

What was the clearence? and how much do you think the headers will have?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 26, 2009, 08:33:41 am

Quoting: F Body

What are you doing for the actual exhaust system

I'll be making a stainless dual-system assembled from Jetex parts . . . .

Quoting: Titsy

What was the clearence?

I reckon - as she sits - that the headers will have about 4" . . . that said her front tyres are a little flat - which won't help.

On a sidenote I may have to alter the oil cooler lines as I suspect they'll clash.

Quoting: F Body

The BIG question is when do you think she'll hit the road again

Dunno . . . I'd like to say september . . . but once I get the motor running (issue-free) I'll be happy.
I'd like to be at that stage in JUNE.

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Post by: Incursus on March 26, 2009, 09:05:20 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Chris who did . . . err . . . well, something

I kept your missus company (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on April 12, 2009, 03:32:09 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'd like to be at that stage in JUNE.

With the latest shipment of goodies enroute that should be a realistic goal!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 20, 2009, 09:10:22 am

She's now been moved back outside ready for further work . . .

Getting her out of the garage was fun - OMG she's low - and she wasn't even partially loaded ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Next jobs will be to re-fit the calipers and front S/S brake lines / flexi's. I also need to get a custom line made up in order to fit the line-lock.

The parts from the U.S should be here within the next week or so (maybe even friday) but, to be honest there's not much to go on, really . . . . mainly prop-shaft and headers . . .

I do need to finish off running a line from the PCV valve and other odd vacuum hoses, too . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 20, 2009, 09:26:07 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on April 20, 2009, 11:17:52 am

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1991-92-RS-Camaro-Ground-Effects-kit_W0QQitemZ180348300132QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item180348300132&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 20, 2009, 11:23:09 am

Two out of the three boxes are currently due to be delivered wednesday. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

No mention of any customs charges, on any of them, either. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Quoting: Titsy

That's the kit Mike's got . . . I decided that the Aero-kit would kill my already lacking ground-clearances. Also, It's not a straight forward bolt-on on the earlier Third-Gens.
Plus I'd need a lower air dam (the later nose-cones don't have the vents the early ones do) which means almost zero clearance at the front.

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Post by: ianjpage on April 20, 2009, 11:27:31 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Two out of the three boxes are currently due to be delivered wednesday.

No mention of any customs charges, on any of them, either.

sweeeeet (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on April 20, 2009, 11:38:15 am

The air dam on those late third gens is a biatch! Hangs so low. The guy we bought ours off said it was one of the reasons he was getting rid of it as they had laid loads of those middle of the road speed humps and he'd got fed up of putting the thing back on.. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on April 20, 2009, 11:45:41 am

just slow down for them instead & stick 1 wheel over them, thats what I have to do... It REALLY pisses people off behind you tho (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/devil.gif)

Or drive down the middle of the road that pisses EVERYBODY off(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

good news on the shiny things front (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on April 20, 2009, 01:33:14 pm

Well was quite surprised at how it seems to be the only, if not the main way the radiator gets any air to it! I still don't understand the apparent cold air intake which is just above the front right healamp by the sealed part of the bonnet... can't imagine that gets much air flow.

Sounds like the project is really coming on! Got any recent shots? I've seen parts of the car but not a full, as it stand one. Would be good to see what the ground clearance is. If only its for the rest of us to sigh that we haven't got it that bad... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 20, 2009, 01:39:47 pm

Quoting: Andy

Got any recent shots?

No. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Quoting: Andy

I've seen parts of the car but not a full, as it stand one.

Will get some sorted once more shiny, shiny goes on. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on April 20, 2009, 03:46:46 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Will get some sorted once more shiny, shiny goes on.

Sweett (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: F Body on April 20, 2009, 04:35:03 pm

Quoting: Andy

Well was quite surprised at how it seems to be the only, if not the main way the radiator gets any air to it!

Exactly the same on the 4th Gen but not quite as low (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 21, 2009, 09:18:56 am

Two packages are at the MK depot (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) and the other is receiving charges at customs. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 21, 2009, 12:30:07 pm

Two boxes are waiting for me at home, according to Sammy - Looks like the Propshaft in one and another "Thigh height" one.

Both boxes look undamaged, too.

Can't wait. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on April 21, 2009, 01:07:46 pm

sweet (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) so whens the next part fitting weekend then huh huh (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on April 21, 2009, 01:58:39 pm

Any chance you'll let a newbie help out? Never really had a chance to get involved with fitting stuff, so would be well happy to don the apprectice cap.. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 21, 2009, 04:46:54 pm

Yeah, no worries, mate.

That said most of the hard work's now been done ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

There's only the new prop (4 screws) and the headers, really, to fit.

I think. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I'll have to assemble a new exhaust system but that'll be a couple of months off, yet, easy.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on April 22, 2009, 06:36:26 pm

Quoting: F Body

Exactly the same on the 4th Gen but not quite as low

Here's my 4th gen air dam (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/fbody007/Z28/CIMG6793.jpg?t=1240425359)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on April 22, 2009, 06:41:14 pm

Uh huh, cheers for the photo. Liking the Chevy drinks bottle! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on April 22, 2009, 07:14:44 pm

Quoting: Andy

Liking the Chevy drinks bottle!

It's mounted to the front of the pressure washer & holds the soap (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

[img]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/fbody007/Z28/CIMG6818.jpg?t=1240428608\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: sixpack2639 on April 22, 2009, 11:46:36 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

the other is receiving charges at customs

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) Those headers were only worth $50.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/whistle.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/flag.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on April 23, 2009, 06:19:34 am

Quoting: sixpack2639

Those headers were only worth $50.

thats UK officialdom for ya (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 23, 2009, 07:32:55 am

Quoting: sixpack2639

Those headers were only worth $50.

Makes me wonder if they've opened it up ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on April 25, 2009, 09:23:45 pm

(http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/switches/photo/l1252.jpg)
(http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/switches/photo/l1244.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 27, 2009, 07:43:37 am

Yeah, looks like they'll do the job . . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Rob on April 27, 2009, 11:56:38 am

Quoting: F Body

Here's my 4th gen air dam

If you'd asked I would have taken a pic of the spare one in my garage that we took off the scrapper.

Save you getting your weary bones down under there.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/old.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on April 27, 2009, 11:58:45 am

Quoting: Rob

Save you getting your weary bones down under there.....

Getting down ain't the problem ( ask Management ) it's the getting back up again which is the problem (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/old.gif)

Besides I spend hours under there anyway (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/polish.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on April 27, 2009, 12:15:19 pm

Quoting: F Body

Going down ain't the problem ( ask Management ) it's getting it back up again which is the problem

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 28, 2009, 03:43:54 pm

The last box - the important one - has FINALLY been released from customs with, what I'm guessing will be, Mahoosive charges on it.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

We'll see . . . I'm expecting the worse . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on April 28, 2009, 08:14:35 pm

Quoting: art b

Quoting: F Body
Going down ain't the problem ( ask Management ) it's getting it back up again which is the problem

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 29, 2009, 07:26:20 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm expecting the worse . . . .

Good news - the package is at the MK depot and the charges are only £32 ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I'm gonna collect it tonight. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 29, 2009, 07:26:52 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Good news - the package is at the MK depot and the charges are only £32 !

excellent not too much at all then!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on April 29, 2009, 07:56:44 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Good news - the package is at the MK depot and the charges are only £32 !

Jammy Git (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I always end up paying more than the parts cost (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 29, 2009, 09:21:00 am

Quoting: F Body

Jammy Git

Indeed. I'm assuming they didn't open it up after all ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 29, 2009, 11:12:24 am

Helicoil kit - needed to sort fooked thread in head - ordered ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Also, as a mini update - I'm currently testing out crackle finish paint in preparation for spraying the new gauge cluster plate. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 29, 2009, 04:23:59 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Also, as a mini update - I'm currently testing out crackle finish paint in preparation for spraying the new gauge cluster plate.

Am having varying results with this stuff. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Really, REALLY glad I decided to test it out first . . . I'm on my FIFTH test plate, now - am trying various different combinations of layer thickness / delay and temperature . . . . . (the paint is temperature dependant) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: sixpack2639 on April 29, 2009, 09:59:27 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Good news - the package is at the MK depot and the charges are only £32 !

PPPPPHHHHHEEEEEWWWWW!!!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I was sweatin my balls off thinking they opened it and saw all the "extras" that came with the set of headers.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

I thought the Carl T. Revaluation & Shipping Service might have to lay low for a while.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Glad they all got there unmolested Deano!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/flag.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on April 29, 2009, 10:49:20 pm

Quoting: sixpack2639

I thought the Carl T. Revaluation & Shipping Service might have to lay low for a while.

The Feds are coming (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on April 29, 2009, 11:01:38 pm

http://www.autometer.com/cat_mountsdetail.aspx?vid=89&sid=49&mid=9&pg=0

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Post by: Titsy on April 29, 2009, 11:10:25 pm

Quoting: Roadkill, Posted: 15 Jan 2009 19:45:07

Titsy :

http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/1402/10002/-1

And

http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/1498/10002/-1

Quoting: Titsy, Posted: 15 Jan 2009 19:59:34

I'll do some reading... You would need to make your own dash panel though as the Autometer speedo and tach will not fit the one on eBay...

Turns out it's all your screw-up RK... Looks like you bought a different tach than originally planned too... the one you linked to was a 3 1/8" with chrome bezzel, the same as the speedo...

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Post by: Roadkill on April 30, 2009, 11:46:31 am

Not that I would've, or did, blame you for the cock-up anyway - but you're quite right on the Tach . . . Not sure why I ended up with the 105-1490. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I'm assuming the 105-1498 (I originally posted) is use-able ? - I can only assume I mis-read the lack of "electrical" in the initial description and / or remembered the guage plate incorrectly (more likely).

So.

I have tow options . . . :

Either buy the 105-1498 Tach ($97.99) and fab a new gauge plate (no great loss there) And all guages bezels will match.

Or

Buy a 3 3/8" Speedo (the 105-1480 - http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/1480/10002/-1# ) $199.99 which will drop into the old plate AND match the bezel on the Tach.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

$100 difference, but I wouldn't need to F*ck about with new plates (time is now a factor) . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

The cheapest option is to go for the new tach and plate - I'll chat to PhilO tonight re a new plate . . .

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Post by: Titsy on April 30, 2009, 11:49:10 am

Quoting: Roadkill

but I wouldn't need to F*ck about with new plates (time is now a factor) . . .

Depends how quickly Philo can fab a new plate...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

If you can do a CAD drawing i'm sure he can have it punched out in no time...

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Post by: Roadkill on April 30, 2009, 11:52:42 am

Quoting: Titsy

Depends how quickly Philo can fab a new plate...

Exactly.

Quoting: Titsy

If you can do a CAD drawing

Trouble is we use LiCom (shudder) at work and my P.C is in bits in the garage at home . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wall.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on April 30, 2009, 11:55:54 am

I can draw it for you if you like... I have AutoCAD, SolidWorks, and Alibre available to me...

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Post by: Titsy on April 30, 2009, 11:56:57 am

BTW, have you got the link to those warning lights?

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Post by: Andy on April 30, 2009, 11:59:20 am

AutoCAD can export direct to .DXF which should be ample for a punch.

How big ya talking? What material?

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Post by: Roadkill on April 30, 2009, 01:59:44 pm

Quoting: Andy

How big ya talking?

Dunno . . . . 400ish x 300ish x 2 mm

Quoting: Andy

What material?

Ally.

Quoting: Titsy

BTW, have you got the link to those warning lights?

I've not 100% found a set, yet - will look again, later.

The initial rush is kinda pointless at the mo, anyway. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 30, 2009, 03:28:43 pm

Quoting: Titsy

BTW, have you got the link to those warning lights?

I've had a look and I think the ones you posted will work best . . . They're only £2-something each.

2 x (Single) Direction, Green
1 x Full-beam, Blue
1 x Handbrake (!), Red
1 x Hazzard, Red - - - - - - ??????

Not sure on the Hazzard - Either that or flash both Indicator warning lights ? - Does my car even have Hazzards ??? - I can't remember ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Jamieg285 on April 30, 2009, 03:54:40 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Not sure on the Hazzard - Either that or flash both Indicator warning lights ? - Does my car even have Hazzards ??? - I can't remember !

Mine does. The direction leds are linked to the indicator lights anyway, so when the lights flash, so does the LED.

Oil Pressure light?

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Post by: Roadkill on April 30, 2009, 04:01:51 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Oil Pressure light?

I've got a gauge for that (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif) . . . . I think (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on April 30, 2009, 04:46:38 pm

They are here:

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/switches/warninglights.php

You will have hazards, but there is no point in having a dedicated light at the indicator lights will both be flashing...

(http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/switches/images/l1252.gif)
(http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/switches/images/l1244.gif)

Lets do this Chinese Style:

1x No.2
2x No.3
1x No.5

Do you have rear fogs?
You dummied the oil level sensor didn't you?

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Post by: Roadkill on April 30, 2009, 04:56:45 pm

Quoting: Titsy

They are here:

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/switches/warninglights.php

Yeah, I'd already found them.

Quoting: Titsy

You will have hazards, but there is no point in having a dedicated light at the indicator lights will both be flashing...

Yeah, that's preferrable - I just wan't sure if that needed more wiring or not.

Quoting: Titsy

Lets do this Chinese Style:

1x No.2
2x No.3
1x No.5

Correct.

Quoting: Titsy

Do you have rear fogs?

No, never been fitted, AFAIK.

Quoting: Titsy

You dummied the oil level sensor didn't you?

Yes . . . Albeit in hindsight I could've left it . . . . nevermind . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on May 01, 2009, 08:06:04 am

UPDATE - Kinda . . .

I've now done various tests with the crackle paint . . . it's difficult stuff to use and NOT for newbies !

I've got three definate results - one done at room temp, one on top of a radiator at about 25*C and one in the oven at 40*C.

The first at room temp finished beautifully, quite glossy and very even pattern . . . unfortunately this is the furthest from what I want !

The second (on the rad) was PERFECT - alas, drying on top of a rad is just not predicable enough and I'm not convinced the results could be replicated for definate.

The final result (in the oven) was good, good pattern, good finish - the only issue being some patchi-ness on the finish - but this result can be improved as I suspect the patches may partly be caused by air-flow in the oven.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 01, 2009, 08:19:12 am

Also.

I've had the opportunity this morning to read up a little on stub-stacks and air flow.
I purchased a K&N stub-stack despite lack of real-world proof of flow / power gains.
It's not a perfect fit so I'll be dremelling it a little to achieve a perfect seal on top of the carb.

Further to my reading regarding air-flow I've now come across the exact air-cleaner lid I was originally looking for but couldn't find !!!

How irritating it that ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

I wanted an ally lid over all-else but eventually had to go for a flat-top filter lid to go upon my monster 4" K&N filter . . .

Then I found this : (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://ramairbox.com/images/c2.gif)

. . From "Ram Air box" - not cheap at $28 + $20 P&P (to the states) BUT I'm convinced the gains will be worth it.

The other downside is that this air filter cover is 1" taller ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Getting back to the Stub-stack - I'm gonna ask PhilO to do alittle work on it (and hopefully the air cleaner base) to kind-of "mold" the two together.

Basically stub-stacks are supposed to go inside the air-cleaner base but I intend to sit the base on top of the stack (I need the clearance below) . . . this will create a bit of a "step" between the two (hence the work to reduce this) BUT as a plus it'll increase the clearances from the top of the 'Stack to the air-cleaner lid (which is where the standard 'Stack set-up apparently fails).

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Does that make sense ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on May 02, 2009, 10:05:52 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Does that make sense ?

LOL Kinda - me ead hurts now lol.....nah perfect sense..

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Post by: Jamieg285 on May 03, 2009, 08:42:41 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I've got a gauge for that .

True, but if there's a problem, you'll notice a warning light instantly, but not a guage.

Makes sense to have both.

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Post by: Roadkill on May 07, 2009, 07:23:39 am

The stub-stack has now been hand-modified, by myself, and fits the Carb spot-on. I've also filed off the mold inperfections to further smooth it down.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

PhilO has also manged to put a flat on the top of it for air-cleaner base purchase. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Also PhilO has significantly reduced the neck of the air-cleaner base - reducing the overall height of the 'stack/cleaner assembly by about 16mm. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

This also dramatically smoothes the flow into the carb and should work great with the air cleaner lid I'm eyeing up. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

I'm currently "umming and ahhing" over whether to remove the choke mechanism entirely . . . If I do I'll slightly improve the air flow - If I don't I need to mess about fitting a choke cable - ie. holes in bulkhead / dashboard . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on May 11, 2009, 11:02:24 am

Dean,

What is your diff ration and current tyre size?

Also, remind me what year the Firebird was...? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2009, 11:47:02 am

Quoting: Titsy

diff ration

Ratio in 3.73:1

Quoting: Titsy

current tyre size?

235 60 R15's, I believe.

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Post by: Titsy on May 11, 2009, 12:20:04 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Also, remind me what year the Firebird was...?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Hmm... Looks like you could have got away with being a bit more radical with your rear end ratio...

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/slice_of_toast/DeansGears.jpg)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2009, 03:04:58 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/error.gif)

Can you host that on the MKB - Photobucket's blocked at work and I've not got a plumbed-in PC at home.

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Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2009, 03:06:01 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Also, remind me what year the Firebird was...?

93 ??? K-Reg ??? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on May 11, 2009, 03:29:42 pm

Hmmm... Do you know if it was marked up as M28, M29, or MN6 as there are three early varients for early 4th gen f-body T-56's

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Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2009, 04:34:14 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/error.gif)

Can you host that on the MKB - Photobucket's blocked at work and I've not got a plumbed-in PC at home.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/bump.gif)

Quoting: Titsy

Hmmm... Do you know if it was marked up as M28, M29, or MN6 as there are three early varients for early 4th gen f-body T-56's

Not a clue . . . . . Will the number be on the box itself or was that a build code ?

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Post by: Titsy on May 11, 2009, 05:26:44 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Will the number be on the box itself or was that a build code ?

should be on both

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Post by: Titsy on May 11, 2009, 05:29:21 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Can you host that on the MKB - Photobucket's blocked at work and I've not got a plumbed-in PC at home.

don't know how... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) but the RPM to road speeds were for the MN6, which is the least likely box it could be...

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Post by: Roadkill on May 12, 2009, 07:09:35 am

Quoting: Titsy

should be on both

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Any ideas where ?

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Post by: Titsy on May 12, 2009, 11:23:22 am

OK, through a process of elimination and knowing what the ration in the axle from the Firebird is, we have the following:

(http://www.mkb.cc/gallery/albums/userpics/10015/Dean_s_Gears.JPG)

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Post by: F Body on May 12, 2009, 11:41:24 am

You sure 2000rpm @67.2mph in 6th gear is correct (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

My 4L60E auto is 1,700rpm at 70mph and in my ignorance I thought the 6 speed manaul box would be lower ?

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Post by: Titsy on May 12, 2009, 12:12:21 pm

Quoting: F Body

You sure 2000rpm @67.2mph in 6th gear is correct

My 4L60E auto is 1,700rpm at 70mph and in my ignorance I thought the 6 speed manaul box would be lower ?

Your rear end ratio is 2.72 with 4th gear being 0.70, this gives a drive train ratio of 1.90

Dean has a rear end ratio of 3.73 with 6th gear being 0.62 this gives a drive train ratio of 2.31

So it's the rear end ratio that makes the difference.

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Post by: FUBAR on May 12, 2009, 12:22:04 pm

Quoting: F Body

You sure 2000rpm @67.2mph in 6th gear is correct

Thats probably going to be a nice cruising point, the IROC sits at about 2000RPM @ 70Mph. Its a good speeding indicator, cos it makes a lot more noise above that.

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Post by: Roadkill on May 12, 2009, 01:36:56 pm

So. I've gotta start looking for some 4.11:1 gears, then, eh ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Jamieg285 on May 12, 2009, 02:01:05 pm

Winters quick change?? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

http://www.wintersperformance.com/

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Post by: Roadkill on May 12, 2009, 04:20:47 pm

$226 buys you 4.56 gears !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

http://www.jegs.com/i/Richmond+Gear/836/69-0326-1/10002/-1#

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Post by: Titsy on May 12, 2009, 04:33:20 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

So. I've gotta start looking for some 4.11:1 gears, then, eh ?

I think you got it right with 3.73's, but if you change the box to the Viper version down the road so that it's rated for more power/tourqe then it would be worth switching to 4.11's to even out the lower ratios in that version of the box...

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Post by: Roadkill on May 12, 2009, 04:36:28 pm

Yah. I'm just kidding. I fully intend to run her how she is for a while - the noteable increase in power and handling and the reduction in overall weight will keep me happy for a little while, I'm sure.

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Post by: Roadkill on May 19, 2009, 08:51:25 am

O.K - To summarise the slight balls-up on the gauge front I really need one of the Auto Meter 1480's - but it MUST have a chrome bezel.

Now the Auto Meter site doesn't mention anything about the bezel, but shows it as chrome :

http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugedetail.aspx?gid=3595&sid=18

The Jegs site, again, doesn't mention anything about the bezel but, again, shows it in chrome :

http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/1480/10002/-1#

However the Summit Store shows it as "black chrome" and states in the description that it's black chrome :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Auto-Meter-1480-Gauge-Designer-Black-Speedometer-Ele_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem5631613ab2QQitemZ370195643058QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I think Summit are actually using a picture of the Automter gauge 1488 (3 1/8") - however that is also show on the Autometer site as having a Chrome Bezel !!! :

http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugedetail.aspx?gid=2977&sid=18

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wall.gif)

I've also found this for $10 cheaper . . . :

http://www.statracing.com/buy/autometer/pn/1480.asp

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Post by: Titsy on May 19, 2009, 11:15:30 am

Might be worth getting whoever you buy from to phisically check it for you...

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Post by: Titsy on May 19, 2009, 11:21:47 am

Quoting: Roadkill

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wall.gif)

On the plus side the pound is currently worth $1.5487... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: F Body on May 19, 2009, 11:28:02 am

Quoting: Titsy

On the plus side the pound is currently worth $1.5487...

Hadn't noticed that it had jumped up that much (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 19, 2009, 03:58:56 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Might be worth getting whoever you buy from to phisically check it for you...

That's what I was thinking . . . (edit - message sent)

TITSY - IS THAT GAUGE DEFINATELY GOING TO WORK ???

(Just to be sure) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on May 19, 2009, 09:49:40 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

TITSY - IS THAT GAUGE DEFINATELY GOING TO WORK ???

Nothing in their literature suggests it wouldn't.... Is that suitably noncommital...? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on May 20, 2009, 09:17:58 pm

Quoting: F Body

Hadn't noticed that it had jumped up that much

Closed today (Wednesday) at £1 = $1.5753... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on May 28, 2009, 07:49:03 pm

Here's that link Dean-O...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NX-NITROUS-EXPRESS-Kit-4150-HITMAN-PLUS-4-BBL-40041-00_W0QQitemZ180354921108QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item29fdfdb294&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A30

[img]http://www.nitrousexpress.com/images/hires_products/40041-00.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>

The eBay seller is the registered UK distributor for Nitrous Express...

http://www.nitrousexpress.com/product-details.php?id=1027

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Post by: Titsy on May 28, 2009, 08:25:44 pm

Bottle:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nitrous-Oxide-Bottle-Polished-11lb-Nos-N2O-NOZ_W0QQitemZ300318350032QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ec5e5ad0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Shiney... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 29, 2009, 08:09:30 am

Quoting: Titsy

The eBay seller is the registered UK distributor for Nitrous Express...

I'd feel better if HE sold the bottles, too . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on May 29, 2009, 09:08:38 am

you could enquire, but if he only distributes for NX then their bottle arn't certified for use in Europe, so I can see why he might not stock bottles....

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Post by: Roadkill on July 21, 2009, 04:53:20 pm

Am now once more pushing ahead . . . .

Main concerns at the moment are :

Lack of correct speedo . . . . . I've emailed AutoMeter direct and hope to have an answer soon.

Headers . . . . I need to acquire a right-angle drill attachment to open-up a stud-hole to fit a heli-coil in . . . ~~I've found said attachment and will purchase shortly~~ . . . . PURCHASED.

Power steering . . . . F*ck knows at the moment . . .

Loom . . . . titsy ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/pokey.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 22, 2009, 04:14:22 pm

LET'S RE-CAP !!!

Quoting: Roadkill

LEAD TO :

Quoting: Roadkill

Lack of correct speedo . . . . . I've emailed AutoMeter direct and hope to have an answer soon.

LEAD TO :

Quoting: Nice chap at Autometer

Hi Dean,

The 1480 does indeed have a full chrome bezel on it. It should integrate nicely into your dash. Hope this helps, please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Best regards,

Joseph Mills
Auto Meter Products, Inc.

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Post by: ianjpage on July 23, 2009, 07:10:01 am

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Post by: Roadkill on August 04, 2009, 03:26:42 pm

Dashboard Indicator lights have now been ordered from VWP.

New Autometer Speedo has been ordered from Stat Racing.

I'm currently chasing Ram Air Box regarding the air cleaner lid I want, too . . .

On top of that I'll be shortly ordering some more crackle paint so I can get the gauge plate finished and gauges installed . . . probably late this month.

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Post by: VIPER on August 04, 2009, 10:48:40 pm

Had 373's in the viper for a while and hated every second of them... Back to the stock 307's

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Post by: Roadkill on August 05, 2009, 08:21:02 am

With the Borg Warner T5 and 3.73 gears it meant first gear was utterly useless . . . and it was screaming in fifth at only 70mph !!!

However the ratios are different in the T56 and should work slightly better in first and much, much better in sixth.

The 3.73 is my stock rear gearing as my Z28 was origianlly the H.O option.

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Post by: Roadkill on August 11, 2009, 09:29:08 am

Some "progress" to report . . . or NOT as the case maybe.

We test fitted the replacement steel bonnet I brought off of Rocky a couple of months back last night . . . fitting was straight forward enough (tapping the holes out certainly helped !) but on closing the bonnet it became very apparent that, no matter how much adjustment I made to it, it would never sit straight.

The reason ?

The bonnet's got a major f*cking crease in it ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Not easily apparent off of the car - I'm not a professional of course (although the rough filler / sanding marks and dusting of grey primer should've given it away, really), but compare it to the smooth, clean lines of my Z28's front fenders and, even in the dim evening light, it was immediately obvious.

One side of the hood is fine, the other actually protrudes over 10mm ABOVE the D/S front fender, causing it to rake down low above the D/S headlight ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

I'm no body man but no amount of fettling is gonna get that in. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

On closer inspection the damage is clear.
There's been a rush-repair to the outer skin (pitted filler and a coat of primer) and underneath the structural ribs are uneven and rippled compared with the other side and, again, there's signs of rush repairs and rust from where the bonnet was creased originally.

Long story short - the bonnet will be coming back off of the Z28 . . .

My Camaro is perfectly straight and solid so I'm not going to be putting a shitty scrap panel on it. Period. It's way too good for that !!

I'm a bit pissed off that I paid a top-dollar price (£80 IIRC) for a panel that is utter crap - or requires at least a couple of hours in the 'shop (more than it's worth) to rectify !

Clearly I should've checked the panel over much more thoroughly and NOT believed the description, or vendor, in the slightest.

I blame myself. I'm too trusting, it seems. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Anyway, if anyone knows someone with a very bent third gen in need of a very bent bonnet then let me know . . . . they can have it for a tenner just to get the f*cking thing out of my way - I'm sure there's people queueing up for these things !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on August 13, 2009, 11:46:50 am

That sucks arse... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on August 13, 2009, 01:31:31 pm

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Post by: Jamieg285 on August 13, 2009, 02:08:34 pm

I'm pretty sure you had reasons for wanting the steel one, but is this any use:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHEVY-CAMARO-1982-3RD-GEN-Z28-BONNET-HOOD_W0QQitemZ130323276009QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item1e57df60e9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

note: less than 45 mins to end of listing

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Post by: Roadkill on August 13, 2009, 02:37:56 pm

Thanks, mate but will pass.

The reasoning for the RS (steel one) was to fit a cowl scoop too . . . .

Now that's out of the window I'm just gonna use mine . . . . I did consider buying that one for a minute or to but then I'd end up with three bonnets . . . . two useful but the same and one that's what I wanted but utter sh!t !

Plus I just don't even have £20 at the moment . . . which makes the fact I spent £80 on a complete pile of crap even more irritating !

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Post by: Roadkill on August 17, 2009, 09:19:23 am

Thought I'd put a positive update on here . . .

The new air cleaner lid is on route to Carl's - as is the new Speedo (due for delivery tomorrow).

I've got the indicator lights for the dashboard and some more wrinkle paint but will do a few more trials before painting the dash-plate itself.

I'm hoping to shuffle the Z28 onto the driveway this weekend and get the front calipers and pads on, then start finishing the brake lines . . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on August 17, 2009, 09:52:56 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm hoping to shuffle the Z28 onto the driveway this weekend and get the front calipers and pads on, then start finishing the brake lines . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Gator on August 17, 2009, 11:36:36 am

Hmmmm that hood thing is worrying considering my plans

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Post by: Roadkill on August 17, 2009, 01:13:41 pm

I'm sure everything'll be fine. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Rocky on August 17, 2009, 08:36:16 pm

If your unhappy with the bonnet mate i don't know if you can get it back to me but i will give your money back. I must admit i didn't check it over thoroughly as none of the car was damaged and it fitted ok. i know the wings were good as i have fitted them to another car after bare metaling them. I know it had a bit of filler in it but didn't realise it was that bad. You should have emailed me straight away when you found out i dont want you to feel your out of pocket.

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Post by: mike on August 17, 2009, 09:03:15 pm

This car was purchased by me as a breaker i stripped most of the car down
The bonnet looked ok to me.
Anyway if you had contacted me or rocky straight away instead of slagging people off.
Anyway
Richard was only the go between for me
I have told him to give you money back I have no issues with that.

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Post by: Rocky on August 18, 2009, 07:05:07 am

The thing im annoyed about is it seems its implied that i have "bodged" the bonnet myself and considering that i sold it on behalf of someone why would i waste my own time doing it.
Also IF i had repaired it i would have said before selling it because you wouldnt have been able to tell it had been repaired by me anyway.

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Post by: Roadkill on August 18, 2009, 08:04:59 am

I've replied to your email, Mike.

I've also reitterated that the blame was mine.

It was my fault I didn't check it over more thoroughly but, again, I'm very surprised the issue wasn't picked up earlier as it was immediately apparent to me.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

As for "slagging off" - I think you'll find I was slagging the bonnet off (which I did extensively) but never slagged Rocky off . . . .

Before I collected it I (obviously) asked what the condition was like and asked about dents / rust (we know they're prone to rust on the front edge) . . . . and was told that the lacquer was flaking in places and that it's had the front edge treated and primed. That was all - so I'd assumed that someone had looked it over . . . As I say, I shouldn't have assumed anything but I thought the price was premium and I'd hoped the description was accurate.

I'll admit, I'm utterly p!ssed off with the thing . . . It cost me £30, IIRC, for us to pick the thing up in Ian's truck . . . I needed space and moved it to the barn we rent in Brackley at the weekend (more time) now to get it back it'll cost another £30-£40 in fuel which I just don't have at the moment so it's going to have to sit where it is for now . . . .

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Post by: Rocky on August 18, 2009, 05:28:59 pm

Normally a bonnet would be £150-£200 for a mint one. I had a quick look over it and told you what i saw, If the bonnet was immediatly apparent you wouldnt have taken it? And as for slagging me off directly i wouldnt go that far but it doesnt put me in a good light to people who dont know my work.

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Post by: Gator on August 18, 2009, 05:36:00 pm

come on people sort this out its a hood not a bonnet (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 19, 2009, 12:05:38 am

Quoting: Rocky

Normally a bonnet would be £150-£200 for a mint one

Sorry. I don't believe that at all. Maybe "brand new" still in the box but no second-hand hood should cost that - not for a run-of-the-mill type.

Quoting: Rocky

If the bonnet was immediatly apparent you wouldnt have taken it

But I don't have your "professional eye".
I'm not a bodywork man or panel beater . . . . merely a precision engineer.

I know my work. I don't claim to know others hence the assumptions I made on its condition based on your professional description.

I said - if you read the post thoroughly, of course - that the issue was immediately apparent, yes, not only to me but to anyone who saw it once it was fitted to my Camaro - hence :

Quoting: Roadkill

Not easily apparent off of the car - I'm not a professional of course (although the rough filler / sanding marks and dusting of grey primer should've given it away, really), but compare it to the smooth, clean lines of my Z28's front fenders and, even in the dim evening light, it was immediately obvious.

. . . . I'll admit that off of the car it would have been harder to see but that bonnet originally came attached to another car . . . I'd expect anyone who'd seen that one or had any dealings with it at all would have noticed it, too - while it was attached to that car . . . especially as the area in question was plastered in grey primer . . . it should have set alarm bells ringing.

Quoting: Rocky

it doesnt put me in a good light to people who dont know my work.

Maybe not. But I'm only discribing the issues as they are. I'm not pointing fingers at you - quite the opposite as my posts here and email to Mike support.

There's many on this forum who've had dealings with you and have praised you highly . . . . . I'm not disputing them or their opinions - again, just calling it as I see it.

I apologise if someone, somewhere has read into my posts and somehow it has tarnished your reputation.

People see what they want to see and read into things how they want . . . . That's people all over and forums breed that.

The facts remain the same :

i) I was described a bonnet that had nothing but minor defects.
ii) I feel I paid good money for the bonnet described.
iii) The bonnet wasn't as per description.
iv) The bonnet was found to be utter $hit.
v) I posted said findings on a project thread dedicated to my Z28.
vi) I've ALWAYS posted such information / issues / notes on this thread.
vii) I will continue to post such relavant information regarding progress and / or lack of progress regarding my Z28 on this thread.
viii) I made it clear that the blame was mine.
ix) Having blamed myself I did NOT request a refund.
x) Having considered the costs in transporting the bonnet back I DO NOT require a refund.
xi) In not requesting nor requiring a refund I consider the case closed.

and finally . . .

If people are still offended by these facts then they can suck my ar$e because I'm very, very sorry but I'm not here to stroke peoples egos, I'm affraid.

If I f*ck up - feel free to call me on it, I won't be offended.

If someone else f*cks up - I don't expect them to get all p!ssy if I call them on it. Nobody's perfect. $hit happens and all that.

I was going to post a small update but I think I'll just go to bed, now, instead. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on August 23, 2009, 07:43:11 pm

Deano - pics that i took for you are here -> http://www.yanksrule.co.uk/temp/Dean/

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Post by: Titsy on August 23, 2009, 07:52:15 pm

No joy on the coolant flow diagram i'm affraid Deano... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 23, 2009, 09:53:52 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

Deano - pics that i took for you are here

Ta.

Quoting: Titsy

No joy on the coolant flow diagram i'm affraid Deano...

Noted, Ta.

O.K. Update. Yes, an update . . .

In between doing the garage and various other things I did spend a few hours doing odds and sods on the Z28 today . . .

Firstly the paint for the prop is ordered and will be in for Firday so will be one of the next jobs . . .

But today I got the re-conned calipers back on (these have been sitting around for well over a year, now) and also got the new pads in. I did have to touch up the calipers in places but they look as good as new, now (or better) plus the VHT paint is a close match to the Mazda Colorado Red, too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

The discs really need to see some use, though !!!

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/begin003.jpg)

Another job was the dash-cluster-plate-thingy . . .

I'd brought a "ready-made" ally plate from a guy on U.S eBay and, to be blunt, it was absolute sh!t . . . but with an hours' worth of filing . . another hour of marking out, drilling and counter sinking and then half an hour of wet and drying it looked like this, complete with dash indicator holes :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/begin001.jpg)

It's now been sprayed with VHT wrinkle black paint and and should be ready to have the gauges fitted to it within a day or so . . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on August 24, 2009, 07:56:12 am

looking good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on August 24, 2009, 05:13:32 pm

Quoting: Titsy

No joy on the coolant flow diagram i'm affraid Deano..

Is this any good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

(http://shbox.com/1/95-97_hoses.jpg)

Not that you need heater hoses (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

(http://shbox.com/1/heater_hoses.jpg)

http://www.z28.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1456849

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Post by: Roadkill on August 25, 2009, 07:23:09 am

Quoting: F Body

Not that you need heater hoses

Ahh, but I need to know which one to connect to which. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Hmm, mine's a '93 . . . . and does look a little different to that . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

It's a start, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

UPDATE.

Although mainly working on the garage last night I did manage to spend 45 minutes or so assembling the new dash gauge plate.

Five out of the six clocks are in (the other is with Carl, atm) and all of the indicator lights are in and fixed.

I took some pictures (to follow) but must admit it looks better in the "flesh".

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I'll be working on the garage entirely tonight and probably tomorrow but then hope to dedicate pretty-much the entire weekend to the Z28.

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Post by: Roadkill on August 25, 2009, 08:26:27 am

(http://shbox.com/1/93-94_hoses.jpg)

(http://shbox.com/1/heater_hoses_93-94.jpg)

This one'll be handy, too - not exactly the same but similair to the '93.

(http://shbox.com/1/oil_cooler.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 25, 2009, 11:45:55 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I did manage to spend 45 minutes or so assembling the new dash gauge plate.

Five out of the six clocks are in (the other is with Carl, atm) and all of the indicator lights are in and fixed.

I took some pictures (to follow) but must admit it looks better in the "flesh".

Pictures :

FYI - The paint hadn't fully cured at this point so was still a tad patchy around the edges . . . this has now evened out nicely.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/begina001.jpg)

Close-up of the VHT wrinkle finish - highly recommended by the way - but don't paint the item vertical as the can says !

I'd certainly recommend spending £10 on the VHT stuff over spending £5 on the Hycote stuff as I could not duplicate the Hycote finish a second time . . . I tried every combination of exposure to heat for varying times but everytime the results were utterly random !!

On the other hand the VHT stuff was literally three coats, leave to dry and it's done. Simples !!

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/begina002.jpg)

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Post by: ianjpage on August 26, 2009, 05:52:17 am

ooo that looks sweet (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Andy on August 26, 2009, 06:20:04 am

That looks awesome! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 26, 2009, 07:14:26 am

Cheers, Guys.

Info dump :

Comp Cams 503 - 918 Beehives (.600 max lift) reqd, Stock gears O.K.

Comp Cams 306 - 918 Beehives (.600 max lift), 4.10+ gearing, LT headers ALL reqd.

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Post by: Titsy on August 26, 2009, 11:38:13 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Close-up of the VHT wrinkle finish

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Nice job...

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Post by: F Body on August 26, 2009, 11:53:53 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Close-up of the VHT wrinkle finish

That looks almost pornograhic (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on August 27, 2009, 11:41:14 am

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/fusion-noz-kit_W0QQitemZ280389415358QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item414882f1be&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Might be worth a look just for the bottle, assuming it still has a cert...

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Post by: EDGE on August 27, 2009, 11:54:22 am

how the hell does that paint do that, does it have polymer strands in the paint itself or does it go on in a wet flat coat and cure like that ?

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Post by: Roadkill on August 27, 2009, 02:13:07 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Might be worth a look just for the bottle

Have asked re. cert.

Quoting: EDGE

how the hell does that paint do that, does it have polymer strands in the paint itself or does it go on in a wet flat coat and cure like that ?

Apparently it has an oil in the paint that dries at a slower rate than the paint.

It's very old skool technology coming from the early days of radio (a favourite finish).

I think it has something to do with the secondary coats reacting with the first (heavy) coat.

After painting it's perfectly smooth. In my case it started to "turn" after about half an hour (it's temperature dependant) and within 3 hours the whole thing was wrinkled.

The process continues for 48 hours, however, and over this time the finish becomes even more wrinkled and much more even.

I'm really impressed with the VHT paint as I had a mixed bag of results with the Hycote stuff.

I'd give it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/OrigGlazed.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/OrigGlazed.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/OrigGlazed.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/OrigGlazed.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/OrigGlazed.gif)

Go out and find something to paint with it !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Gator on August 27, 2009, 04:37:52 pm

that paint is frikin ace (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) nice work sir

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 28, 2009, 07:42:01 am

I've got to make-up a switch panel to cover the hole in the lower dash left by the absence of a centre console so, needless to say, it'll be getting used, there, too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on August 28, 2009, 07:47:12 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) how well will it stick to wheels? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on September 08, 2009, 01:48:22 pm

Dean... I know its too late now, but look what Spohn have started selling...

http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-GM-F-Body/Suspension/Front-Suspension-Steering/Retrofit-Pinto-Manual-Rack-Pinion-Kit-1982-1992-GM-F-Body.html

(http://www.spohn.net/prodimages/1920/1003.jpg)

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Rack & Peanut Steering (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on September 08, 2009, 02:40:01 pm

ooo dont start giving him ideas now!!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 08, 2009, 02:58:01 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

I know its too late now

Not exactly.

They make a retro-fit one for those who have existing Spohn X-members . . . ie. me.

It would also sort the issue I have with the steering . . .

But, no. Not yet.

I already have future mini-projects lined up for the Camaro over the coming years (first one is a Cam / Rear gear upgrade) so this will just go on that list.

I really do wish they'd stop bringing out new stuff for third gens and start working on older, big bodied GM's . . . like Cadillacs, for example. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 14, 2009, 06:16:04 pm

Barely update-worthy but here goes . . . The new Spohn Chrome-moly prop . . . .

Bare and clean.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Sale003.jpg)

Masked and primered.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Sale011.jpg)

Red and pimpin'.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/France-Belgium043.jpg)

Have also placed the final order for the year with Jegs . . for various little "odds and sods" I need, too . . . . Plus the cowl scoop for my hood.

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Post by: Gator on September 14, 2009, 07:50:57 pm

worth an update if you ask me very cool mate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on September 14, 2009, 09:08:16 pm

looking very (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 22, 2009, 10:23:07 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Have also placed the final order for the year with Jegs . . for various little "odds and sods" I need, too . . . . Plus the cowl scoop for my hood.

After a complete cock-up by Jegs the order is sorted and should be with Carl TODAY !!

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Post by: ianjpage on September 22, 2009, 10:24:46 am

Sweet (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Rob on November 04, 2009, 05:55:28 pm

Breaking for spares.....any use

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1985-chevy-camero-rear-lights_W0QQitemZ290365195169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item439b1d43a1

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on November 04, 2009, 06:06:05 pm

Quoting: Rob

Breaking for spares.....any use

Thats Vicky's Old Camaro (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) ... isn't it?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on November 04, 2009, 06:17:28 pm

breaking ! it doesnt look bad to me

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Post by: cuban pete on November 04, 2009, 11:46:35 pm

The wheels should fit your firebird mate .

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Post by: ianjpage on November 05, 2009, 08:47:14 am

that is vicky's old maro ... wonder why they breaking it...

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Amey on November 05, 2009, 11:18:01 am

Quoting: FUBAR

Thats Vicky's Old Camaro ... isn't it?

Yeap (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) poor car
Going by the Q&A the person is putting the engine into a 39 coupe?

Do wonder what it's doing down in Poole (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
The lights were painted black by Phil

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Post by: a91_formula on November 05, 2009, 12:35:24 pm

Is this your Maro that Shaun bought from you?

He was in it a few months back at the Swindon meet and never mentioned getting rid of it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on November 05, 2009, 12:48:42 pm

We still have the Smilie (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/philo.gif)

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Post by: F Body on November 05, 2009, 12:49:35 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

wonder why they breaking it...

Quoting: Amey

The lights were painted black by Phil

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on November 05, 2009, 12:51:30 pm

Quoting: a91_formula

Is this your Maro that Shaun bought from you?

He was in it a few months back at the Swindon meet and never mentioned getting rid of it

Yup thats the one....summat must have changed then...

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Post by: Roadkill on November 05, 2009, 02:13:08 pm

Goddammit - Stop cluttering my Z28's thread ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on November 05, 2009, 02:13:53 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Goddammit - Stop cluttering my Z28's thread !

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Post by: ianjpage on November 06, 2009, 09:10:20 am

well spoke to the seller.....this is the response:

"there is nothing wrong with the car.
iam planning in removing the engine/box/rear axle. to put in my 1939 ford coupe.
am willing to sell it as a whole car if you interested"

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Post by: Titsy on November 06, 2009, 12:35:02 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

am willing to sell it as a whole car if you interested"

Oh Philo.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on November 06, 2009, 12:36:14 pm

oi dont tell him, i might want it back lol!

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Post by: Roadkill on November 06, 2009, 04:17:14 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

iam planning in removing the engine/box/rear axle

Well - Titsy's got the axle . . .

Dammit - stop junking up my thread !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sparta.gif)

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Post by: Jamieg285 on November 06, 2009, 04:29:56 pm

For the right money and timeframe - I have an engine (carbed 305).

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Post by: Rob on November 10, 2009, 02:42:35 pm

(http://i.ebayimg.com/24/!Bep9mjw!Wk~$(KGrHqEH-CkErfKw(t+fBK-I!dRk9w~~_35.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Z28-Chevrolet-camaro-Trans-Am-Bonnet_W0QQitemZ150387607807QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item2303ccc8ff

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Rob on December 23, 2009, 02:42:31 am

Breaking in Bicester.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

May be of some use.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/10/!Bhq6f!!BGk~$(KGrHqQH-DIEsJ+rQOheBLKQ!ik4Q!~~_12.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHEVROLET-GMC-CAMERO-BREAKING-WHEEL-NUT_W0QQitemZ230413188456QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item35a5b23d68

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Post by: Roadkill on December 23, 2009, 10:16:34 am

Quoting: Rob

May be of some use.

I don't think there's anything I need . . .

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Post by: art b on December 23, 2009, 10:32:46 am

ryan might want some spares....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Gator on December 23, 2009, 05:05:24 pm

or mat

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Post by: cuban pete on December 23, 2009, 05:08:47 pm

nope , mine don't need owt .

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Post by: FUBAR on January 18, 2010, 05:43:32 pm

Quoting: Rob

Breaking in Bicester.....

I was just about to link that! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on January 18, 2010, 05:44:09 pm

Quoting: art b

ryan might want some spares....

Quoting: cuban pete

nope , mine don't need owt .

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Post by: Roadkill on January 19, 2010, 08:05:02 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I don't think there's anything I need . . .

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(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on January 19, 2010, 01:00:24 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: Roadkill
I don't think there's anything I need . . .
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Yeah... hence why I didn't link it again (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 23, 2010, 08:53:16 am

Time to blow the dust off of this methinks . . .

I'm very nearly in a position to start work on the 'Maro again . . .

Next job :

Buy a battery (Optima Red) and fabricate suitable battery tray and fit.

What this space . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 23, 2010, 09:25:52 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 25, 2010, 02:12:59 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/woohoo.gif)

Work has officially begun again on the 'Maro . . . nothing ground-breaking but definate progress.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I'll order the battery tomorrow (payday), too.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 26, 2010, 08:06:14 am

Yup - Some good progess made - lots of little jobs that needed addressing. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Battery now ordered, too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 26, 2010, 08:50:40 am

cool - what was done then ???

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Post by: Roadkill on April 26, 2010, 03:28:09 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

what was done then ???

O.K . . .

I spent a couple of hours on saturday making templates and marking out where the scoop is gonna go. The hood is all marked up and ready for cutting . . .

Then I unpacked and checked new radiator then modified it to fit the third gen (it's a 4th gen rad).
Sat it in it's new position . . designed and drew-up the top fixing bracket (now PhilO's job).
Fitted the Coolant sensor in said rad - to plug the hole - and fitted the cap.

Refitted the Spal fan.

Next I went through the old 3rd / 4th Gen rad hoses to cobble together the main rad pipes . . . I kinda got there but am currently looking at new silicone ones (watch thish space).

Then I cut and fitted the vacuum pipe. Then fitted a bung over the other (not needed)

Next I began replacing the rubber lines with hard ally tube.

The Valve cover breather-to-carb tube was formed and fitted. Next the old, rusty steam/vent tube was cut of and a new one-piece formed and fitted.
Then came the brake booster-intake pipe (which later had to be modified to clear the air cleaner). I managed to use a fitting I already had for the intake end which was a nice bonus.
Then I run a hardline from the overflow to the rad.

Next the P/S valve cover and the alternator was removed (ready for later work).

The fuel line was trimmed and completed.

Next I measured up for some pipe adaptors (another PhilO job) - I need these to effectively delete the heater and delete the oil cooler (which is more trouble than it's worth, apparently).

The dizzy cap was cleaned and re-fitted. As was the leads.
I also added lead-tags to make it easier in future.
The new dizzy stud and clamp was fitted.

Finally I spent about an hour deciding on the final air clear base / lid / filter and even which air cleaner NUT I was using ! (this was when the booster tube needed modding !)
Said assembly was then removed again so I could close the hood !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I think that was it.

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Post by: ianjpage on April 26, 2010, 09:03:01 pm

wow quite a bit then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 27, 2010, 01:45:52 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

am currently looking at new silicone ones

Have ordered a selection of straight and ribbed ( (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) ) pipes to finish off the main rad pipes.

The plan - long term - will be to replace all with silicone tubing but for now rubber will do.

After some research and brain-storming I've also opted to "bung" the ends where the oil cooler plate connects instead of connecting them. This'll free up further space in the engine bay and reduce immediate costs.

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Post by: ianjpage on April 27, 2010, 02:17:54 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

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Post by: Andy on April 27, 2010, 02:20:59 pm

Is it going to be a show or go car? There is a guy over this way who specialises in blowing glass rad tubes and the like.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 27, 2010, 04:21:03 pm

Quoting: Andy

Is it going to be a show or go car?

A go car. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

I'm not a fan of (too) shiny but that said it'll be fairly tidy . . .

EDIT - And, much to Martyn's discust, it will likely be going satin black (this is for a number of good reasons)

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Post by: F Body on April 27, 2010, 05:14:01 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

much to Martyn's discust, it will likely be going satin black

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif) IMHO It would let better just left as it is, more of a sleeper (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

(this is for a number of good reasons)

OK cost, but what else (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Gator on April 27, 2010, 05:19:48 pm

coz satin black cars rock (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on April 27, 2010, 05:51:08 pm

Quoting: Gator

coz satin black cars rock

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/ranton.gif) No no no a thousand times no (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Matte Black on a basic car ( not a hot rod or custom ) just say's your too poor to afford a proper paint job (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

So you think this looks better :

(http://p0.grono.net/73/73347/73347415.jpg)

Than this and I don't even like blue (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/fbody007/MKB%20Meet/DSC03160.jpg)

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Post by: F Body on April 27, 2010, 05:57:45 pm

Or we could try red (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Chevrolet_Camaro_IROC-Z-4.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>

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Post by: Incursus on April 27, 2010, 06:30:05 pm

Ohh dibs on the satin black 3rd gen! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on April 28, 2010, 07:38:20 am

I have to agree with Martyn here, that 3rd gen looks wrong.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on April 28, 2010, 11:44:37 am

Quoting: Jamieg285

I have to agree with Martyn here

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Comparing the two pictures matte black seems to lose shape and definition (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

That could be a good thing on a custom or rod, because then your eye would be drawn to other design details, but it just ruins the Camaro (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 28, 2010, 01:36:58 pm

Quoting: F Body

It would let better just left as it is, more of a sleeper

What, with a 4" Cowl ? and 295 tyres on the back ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 29, 2010, 10:56:46 am

Optima Red showed up yesterday, as did the main rad hose I'm missing and PhilO is slowly getting through the pile of little jobs I've given him to fabricate.

I'll be posting a pic of the stuff he's made for the 'Maro as most you won't see when it's in there and they really are works of art.

It makes me miss "real" engineering when you could actually do little "homers" yourself on "the side" . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

That's the only bit I miss about "real" engineering, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on April 29, 2010, 11:04:46 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on April 29, 2010, 11:42:02 am

Quoting: Roadkill

It makes me miss "real" engineering when you could actually do little "homers" yourself on "the side" . . .

On my lottery win list is a "real" workshop with a lathe, CNC miliing m/c, radial arm drill, welding booth etc (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif)

Oh and a Duck-off bench strong enough to put any engine & gear box on (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 29, 2010, 04:18:40 pm

Hell if I won the lottery I'd get a water-jet ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Anyway (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/offtopic.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on April 29, 2010, 04:52:15 pm

If I won the lottery I'd get someone else to do that shit for me while I enjoy the cars (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 04, 2010, 10:38:29 am

PhilO's finished all the Camaro-related mini projects, now, plus I've now got all the little bits I need to finish the rad install.

Weather permitting that's tonights' job. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

After that I need to jack the front end up at least another foot to get the headers under ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on May 04, 2010, 10:44:26 am

cool - means it a step closer to finishing it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

After that I need to jack the front end up at least another foot to get the headers under !

Gis a shout if ya need a hand (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 04, 2010, 11:19:39 am

That'll most likely be this weekend . . . although moving her and getting her "ready" during the week will save time . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on May 04, 2010, 11:23:51 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 04, 2010, 02:23:09 pm

See how I get on tonight . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 04, 2010, 08:00:10 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

See how I get on tonight . . .

Have now got all the plumbing done (except the brakes) - all the coolant pipes are finished and fitted, as are the fuel related pipes. Vacuum lines are also finished.

Radiator is now fully fixed and the radiator top plate is fitted, too.

Next job . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) . . . . .

Back under the car, fit the prop and prop loop and then the headers . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on May 04, 2010, 08:39:32 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 06, 2010, 08:01:39 am

Slowly, slowly catchy monkey . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 07, 2010, 08:42:17 am

Propshaft is now fitted.

Prop-loop is now fitted.

Starter has been removed - ready for installation of P/S header.

D/S header is in position but not fully fixed.

Upper strut mounts have been centralised-ish and fixed (will obviously need further adjustments but will make it easier to maneuver for now).

Oil cooler plate has been removed (permanently and will be for sale), filter plate removed, cleaned, bolts modified and replaced.
New Filter fitted.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Next job is to raise the front-end up another few inches and position the P/S header.

Then replace the sump-plug gasket, then measure-up for the exhaust system . . . .

Then lower the car back onto its wheels and finish fitting the headers.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Then I've got to connect the clutch pedal, fit and run a choke cable, then run the throttle cable.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Then onto the wiring . . . .

I'll have her running by the end of this year or die trying !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on May 07, 2010, 09:29:18 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll have her running by the end of this year or die trying !!

temporary wiring for teh win!!!! (run cables to pump, coil and a few others and ready to fire lol!)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 07, 2010, 09:32:05 am

Yeah, I can do that . . . . for starters but obviously the plan would ideally be to get all the wiring sorted properly.

Then it'll just leave me, basically, the "cosmetic" stuff . . . .

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Post by: Titsy on May 07, 2010, 11:23:23 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll have her running by the end of this year or die trying !!

I recon we can rig it to run in a couple of hours max, just to run for a few minutes as that would be with very little instrumentation.

When do you want to give it a go?

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Post by: F Body on May 07, 2010, 11:35:26 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll have her running by the end of this month or die trying !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: Titsy

I recon we can rig it to run in a couple of hours max,

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 07, 2010, 01:05:12 pm

Quoting: F Body

I'll have her running by the end of this month or die trying !!

If I wasn't going on holiday mid-month that would be a strong possibility.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 09, 2010, 07:13:45 pm

An update in pictures . . .

Firstly the pukka parts PhilO turned up for me (now all fitted) . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Header001.jpg)

Next a shot with the Headers, Prop and prop-loop fitted . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Header004.jpg)

The prop and loop fitted . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Header007.jpg)

There was also other little bits and bobs done / sensors for the Autometer gauges fitted etc . . but most of the work today was header / exhaust related . . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Header008.jpg)

The next picture shows the newly fitted rad, the fresh ally lines, the refitted fan and rad pipes etc . . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Header009.jpg)

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Post by: Titsy on May 09, 2010, 08:37:34 pm

All looking good! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I don't have the gauge backlight bulbs here, so you must have had them back with gauges... Let me know when you've dug them out and i'll stop by on my way home from work. You can have a chat with Chris #2 at the same time if you like...

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Post by: Roadkill on May 10, 2010, 08:06:38 am

One way or another - I'll find those bulbs tonight . . .

The front end will be coming off, too, so I can get it shot-blasted.

Which reminds me - I'll be buying a packet of grommets for the various bits coming through the bulkhead . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on May 10, 2010, 12:54:42 pm

FMI - T56 uses Dex III, 1.9 Litres, approx.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on May 10, 2010, 01:21:57 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

FMI - T56 uses Dex III, 1.9 Litres, approx.

Got plenty of that at home if you want it

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Post by: Roadkill on May 10, 2010, 03:34:47 pm

Two litres should do. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Gator on May 10, 2010, 05:35:18 pm

that looks very nearly close to getting cranked for the 1st time (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on May 10, 2010, 05:46:35 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Next a shot with the Headers, Prop and prop-loop fitted . . .

Wish my Camaro looked that good underneath (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on May 10, 2010, 07:59:24 pm

Quoting: F Body

Quoting: Roadkill
Next a shot with the Headers, Prop and prop-loop fitted . . .

Wish my Camaro looked that good underneath

yeah you dont deserve to have a nice car the way you treat it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on May 10, 2010, 08:10:59 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Two litres should do.

Check - one unopened 5L bottle ready!

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Post by: VIPER on May 10, 2010, 09:20:54 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

FMI - T56 uses Dex III, 1.9 Litres, approx.

NOT IF IT'S OUT OF A VIPER IT DOESN'T!!!!!!!!

Mopar Trans oil.....if its out of a 1999>

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: VIPER on May 10, 2010, 09:22:27 pm

Looks great(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 10, 2010, 09:25:08 pm

Quoting: VIPER

Mopar Trans oil.....if its out of a 1999

Later T56's in GM's are different too, apparently. But if it's an early GM-supplied T56 (93-97) - which mine is - it's designed for ATF. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Thanks for the coments, guys . . . it keeps me going ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lazy.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: VIPER on May 10, 2010, 09:28:22 pm

Just didn't want you putting in the wrong oil after all that work... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2010, 07:20:26 am

Mini-update.

Got the throttle return bracket and dual springs fitted last night. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/woohoo.gif)

Spent the rest of the evening clearing EVERYTHING out of the car in readiness for the interior wiring/under dash work . . .

There's some bits and bobs I found in the bottom of the boot that couldn't've moved in nearly three years ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

. . .Really reminded me just how long this has been going on for . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on May 11, 2010, 07:36:26 am

Quoting: Roadkill

couldn't've moved in nearly three years !

blimey has it REALLY been 3 years!!!!!!!!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on May 11, 2010, 11:48:52 am

As I suggested last night, the two coolant connectors that you blanked off after removing the oil cooler are supposed to be joined up with a bypass:

(http://shbox.com/1/93-94_hoses.jpg)

I guess you could have my bypass if I by your oil cooler...

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Post by: Roadkill on May 11, 2010, 12:16:57 pm

Quoting: Titsy

I guess you could have my bypass if I by your oil cooler...

Chances are the hose won't be long enough (none of the other ones were) but I'll give it a go - you want the cooler, then ?

Quoting: ianjpage

blimey has it REALLY been 3 years!!!!!!!!!

Quoting: Roadkill on the 26th MARCH 2007 !!!

That's over 3 years and 1 month !!!

The bit I've underlined makes me chuckle looking back . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on May 11, 2010, 12:36:09 pm

bloody hell yeah so it is !!

lol yeah it should drive like a different car cos most of the main parts of it ARE different !!!

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Post by: Roadkill on May 13, 2010, 10:45:02 am

NOTE TO TITSY !!!

CHECK THE GAUGES IN THE CLUSTER YOU HAVE THERE.

FUEL GAUGE SHOULD HAVE 1415 ON IT

THE TACH SHOULD HAVE 1490 ON IT

Please confirm. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Also - while you're at it - the Speedo, there, should be a 1480 as per . .

Quoting: Roadkill

O.K - To summarise the slight balls-up on the gauge front I really need one of the Auto Meter 1480's - but it MUST have a chrome bezel.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on May 13, 2010, 11:10:06 am

did u get the switches ok - are they the right ones?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 13, 2010, 02:39:48 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

did u get the switches ok

Yes, thanks. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: ianjpage

are they the right ones?

They appear to be - not checked thoroughly, though.

How much did you want for them ? - I didn't realise they were NEW, new. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on May 13, 2010, 03:33:26 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: ianjpage
did u get the switches ok

Yes, thanks.

cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: ianjpage
are they the right ones?

They appear to be - not checked thoroughly, though.

How much did you want for them ? - I didn't realise they were NEW, new.

cool - i think they were definate 3rd gen ones - i remember getting them for vickys car (and they were in the bag with a load of other bits!)

Yeah well i did say they were brand new!!! - not sure how much i paid for them TBH....lemme ponder!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 13, 2010, 08:29:25 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

NOTE TO TITSY !!!

CHECK THE GAUGES IN THE CLUSTER YOU HAVE THERE.

FUEL GAUGE SHOULD HAVE 1415 ON IT

THE TACH SHOULD HAVE 1490 ON IT

Please confirm.

Also - while you're at it - the Speedo, there, should be a 1480 as per . .

Confirmed (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 14, 2010, 06:38:12 am

Phew ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: Titsy

As I suggested last night, the two coolant connectors that you blanked off after removing the oil cooler are supposed to be joined up with a bypass:

As mentioned - I doubt your pipe will fit without modification so - just in case - I've had PhilO make me up another billet 5/8"-to-3/4" adapter. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 14, 2010, 01:42:44 pm

Thanks to my recent sale of car-related bits I managed to get-together funding to begin the exhaust system . . .

When I say begin, I actually mean the first 18" - but it's a start !!

Plus the first 18" is the most important (Ooo-er) as that's where I need to position the cross-over.

The plan is to fit true-duals (a feat very-nearly-almost-impossible on third gens - epecially lowered ones).

The headers kick-out at 3" diameter so the first parts I needed was appropriate stainless flanges ((http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)) which I picked up for a steal on ebay .com months back.
Next the parts to make the actual system . . . .

All parts came from Jetex - the first sections being step-downs from 3"-2 1/2" diameter. These parts are currently with PhilO so he can hopefully shorten them, then have them welded to the flanges today.

Next (all in stainless 2 1/2" pipe) will be two opposing "Y" (or "T") pipes with a flexi-section in the middle - this will be the lowest part of the entire car and will effectively form an "H" - section to balance the system.

Then . . . well that's where things get really complicated so I've just ordered some 150* bends to use as turn-downs temporalily before they're hopefully re-used in the system.

That's it !

That's all the cash I had allowed so I'm gonna suck-it-and-see kinda . . .

The plan is to exit in front of the rear wheels but at this point I'll be happy to just get in what I've got !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on May 14, 2010, 02:21:55 pm

cool coming together then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 14, 2010, 07:06:13 pm

Compiled a list of various little - irritating - jobs that need doing . . . .

I know what i'll be doing tomorrow, then ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 17, 2010, 10:07:13 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Compiled a list of various little - irritating - jobs that need doing . . . .

I know what i'll be doing tomorrow, then !

Hit the list hard on saturday - spent 2 hours alone F*cking about with the old throttle bracket and modifying it to fit the LT1 properly. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Got a load of other little jobs done, too.

Ryan helped out on saturday with removing multiple parts from behind the dashboard (heater exchange/ducting/lagging etc . . )

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Titsy came over on sunday to start stripping the redundant wires out (and also removed the rear seat belts & speakers) - more lagging went, too.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

All-in-all I'd estimate that inbetween 19-22kgs of weight was removed over the weekend.
None of it will affect anything I need nor will affect the overall look of the interior when she's finished, either.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Andy on May 17, 2010, 11:05:51 am

Awesome! Will you be going at some body pannels with a hole saw for those few extra grams? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on May 17, 2010, 11:47:17 am

Quoting: Andy

Will you be going at some body pannels with a hole saw for those few extra grams?

I think the equation is 100kg = 0.1 seconds (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 17, 2010, 12:30:49 pm

Quoting: Andy

Will you be going at some body pannels with a hole saw for those few extra grams?

Err, No. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Those bits removed this weekend were done so simply because :

a) I needed to get to those areas and in order to do that said parts needed removing

b) There was nothing I needed

c) It won't affect the overall "package"

d) It didn't require any/much additional work.

Cutting holes in things is waaaaay too much effort ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on May 17, 2010, 01:07:10 pm

Dean, *if* you do remove the stock front belts permenantly i'm interested in them please m8...

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 17, 2010, 02:31:53 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

Dean, *if* you do remove the stock front belts permenantly i'm interested in them please m8...

Highly likely, now - and noted. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on May 17, 2010, 04:52:37 pm

Just skim-read this thread - very nice bud (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

You may have a cookie.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 27, 2010, 03:40:56 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

You may have a cookie

"Cookie ? . . . I don't know anything 'bout no cookie . . . <struggle> . . . AWW, YOU GUYS ARE F**KING NAZIS, MAN !"

Seth Macfarlane has a lot to answer for (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Anyway :

Link dump :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-97-CAMARO-Z28-FIREBIRD-LT1-POWER-STEERING-RESERVOIR-/120575084441?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c12d5c799

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 03, 2010, 03:20:27 pm

Thanks to Titsy for further stripping the loom out of the Maro last night . . .

I'm beginning to be concerned at how HIGH she's sitting with everything removed.
My concern should've been how LOW she was but there's been so much weight shed that she's sitting almost stock height - even with the Eibachs !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I'm anxious to get some stuff back in to see a reduction in ride height.

With that in mind I plan to fit the seats this weekend . . . work has begun. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on June 03, 2010, 03:44:28 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm anxious to get some stuff back in to see a reduction in ride height.

Pie's are the answer!!

PIE!! PIE!! PIE!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on June 03, 2010, 08:20:07 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)

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Post by: F Body on June 03, 2010, 08:20:42 pm

Quoting: Incursus

Pie's are the answer!!

Couple of bodies in the boot should do it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 04, 2010, 07:33:14 am

Quoting: F Body

Couple of bodies in the boot should do it

How the feck do you fit ONE body in there let alone a couple ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on June 04, 2010, 08:57:50 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: F Body
Couple of bodies in the boot should do it

How the feck do you fit ONE body in there let alone a couple ?

Blender......

or pigs.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 07, 2010, 08:20:59 am

Back on topic . . . . the first of the two seats has been "fitted" . . . . Not permanently but it's a good start.

More importantly and as mentioned to many this weekend, I've decided to go manual steering on the Camaro.

http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-GM-F-Body/Chassis/Tubular-K-Members/Tubular-K-Members-for-SBC-BBC-LT1-38L-V-6-Engines/Retrofit-Pinto-Manual-Rack-Pinion-Kit-1982-1992-GM-F-Body.html

There's obviously many pro's and con's but after researching the Pinto / Flaming River rack Spohn are offering the pro's are certainly outweighing the con's !!

Main advantages are:

I reckon, about 30kgs of weight saving (all forward of the front wheels).
Relocation of the alternater (better weight distribution).
Reduction in clutter (no P/S lines, No reservoir).
Further reduction in clutter (loss of P/S means no P/S pump so belt tensioner and A/C delete pulley is NOT required either).

A further plus is I can sell all the stuff I take off which will go a long way to covering the cost of the rack.

Downsides are :

Cost (see above)
Heavier steering . . . .

That said the new set-up will be 3.75 turns, lock-to-lock and with 185's on the front shouldn't be too bad (I've had heavier cars on bigger).

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Post by: Titsy on June 07, 2010, 09:13:14 am

Will this be an engine out job to gain access to the K-member? If so, would it be worth getting the K-member blasted and re-powder coated? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Also, Is this your engagement gift from Sammy? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 07, 2010, 09:29:06 am

Quoting: Titsy

Will this be an engine out job to gain access to the K-member?

Not sure.

Quoting: Titsy

If so, would it be worth getting the K-member blasted and re-powder coated?

In theory, yes.

But that'd mean taking the front springs out again. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

I'd probably just try to paint the area in question. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 08, 2010, 07:37:50 am

Finally, FINALLY got the clutch master cylinder connected to the back of the clutch pedal . . . . .

Note at this point The LT1/T56 Clutch cylinder assembly is NOT a direct bolt-in job !!

It's irritatingly close . . . that's what took me so long as I just assumed it was me missing something.

Anyway - with minor (albeit long-winded) adjustment it's now connected and appears to be operating the heavy Ram clutch below (won't know for sure if everything's O.K until the motor's running, obviously).

Next job is to fit the passenger seat then jack the car back up and tackle a couple of quick (I use the term "quick" loosely) jobs underneath . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on June 08, 2010, 11:33:26 am

Quoting: Roadkill

But that'd mean taking the front springs out again

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

We nearly died last time!! as did the spring compressor...

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Post by: Andy on June 08, 2010, 11:55:05 am

Haven't read the whole thread but are you running after market springs/coilovers on the front or regular stock springs?

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Post by: Roadkill on June 08, 2010, 12:05:49 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

We nearly died last time!! as did the spring compressor...

Indeed. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif) <-- (Or something more robust than a sofa)

Quoting: Andy

Haven't read the whole thread

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono.gif)

Tut-tut.

Quoting: Andy

are you running after market springs/coilovers on the front or regular stock springs?

Eibach Sportline springs / Tokico (adustable) shocks.

But you'd know that if you read the thread . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Start from page 9-ish . . . . there's lots of pretty pictures so you won't actually need to read much. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Jamieg285 on June 08, 2010, 12:57:53 pm

Are the springs mounted to the shocks, or can the shocks be removed without touching the springs?

Reason I ask is that I have a decent Span-On spring compressor, but its the internal type.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on June 08, 2010, 01:07:48 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Are the springs mounted to the shocks, or can the shocks be removed without touching the springs?

Reason I ask is that I have a decent Span-On spring compressor, but its the internal type.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/frontend013.jpg)

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Post by: Andy on June 08, 2010, 01:14:15 pm

Sorry, will have some bed time reading to do!

That front end looks fierce though!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on June 08, 2010, 02:14:05 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

I'm assuming there's a picture there that answers my question.

Unfortunately I can't see any of Dean's progress pics whilst at work (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 08, 2010, 07:25:27 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

I'm assuming there's a picture there that answers my question.

( The struts are independent of the springs ) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on June 08, 2010, 09:08:09 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

I'm assuming there's a picture there that answers my question.

Unfortunately I can't see any of Dean's progress pics whilst at work

yeah its a pic of the passenger side front low down showing the setup!

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Post by: philoldsmobile on June 09, 2010, 05:12:02 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Anyway - with minor (albeit long-winded) adjustment it's now connected and appears to be operating the heavy Ram clutch below (won't know for sure if everything's O.K until the motor's running, obviously).

dead easy to check;

jack one back wheel of the car up (not both) put it on gear, press clutch, wheels should turn, release clutch, driveline should be locked. if this doesn't happen, something isn't working
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on June 09, 2010, 07:26:30 pm

Would need to be both wheels as it has an LSD...

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Post by: philoldsmobile on June 10, 2010, 07:17:28 am

oh yeah, (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/homer.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 10, 2010, 07:24:19 am

Yeah, thanks, PhilO, I am aware as to how to check if the clutch is engaging or not . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 13, 2010, 06:57:26 pm

Here's a piccy taken earlier . . . the cowl is obviously just sitting on the hood but it gives you an idea . . . that's one of the next jobs . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Today.jpg)

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Post by: Jamieg285 on June 13, 2010, 07:58:22 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

the cowl

That's not as extreme as I was expecting. Looks like it will fit the existing body lines really well. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 13, 2010, 08:21:50 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

That's not as extreme as I was expecting

I wanted to keep it bare minimum . . . that said that's a 4" Cowl - so not small.

Just hope it all fits under THAT !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Andy on June 13, 2010, 08:28:01 pm

Looks fierce!

What plans are for paint? Looks a little faded but i image that could be mopped back. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 14, 2010, 07:29:43 am

Quoting: Andy

Looks a little faded but i image that could be mopped back

Funny you should say that as I was looking at some pictures taken not that long ago last night and she really does polish up well - just suffers with the "red paint syndrome".

Quoting: Andy

What plans are for paint?

Black. Gloss or Satin - but NOT Matt.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 14, 2010, 09:02:02 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Here's a piccy taken earlier . . .

She looks a bit different now . . . .

The nose-cone is back off !

The lights have all been removed and stripped down, ready for the buckets to be blasted so the new lights can be fitted.

Removed the front indicators (RH side has a smashed lense so I need to be on the look-out for a replacement . . . . or modification ?)

Took some support brackery off, too, which I'm hoping to avoid putting back on . . .

Also removed the under hood catch, release and spring as they won't be being used again.

Also removed the moulded rubber section (that keeps the nosecone's shape) from the front crash bar, too, so the crash bar can be prepped ready for POR15'ing before replacement.

Need to gather up some bits for blasting . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Gator on June 14, 2010, 09:11:40 pm

thats not as low as i was expecting or is there stuff underneath to shave speed humps
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 15, 2010, 07:09:46 am

Quoting: Gator

thats not as low as i was expecting

Me neither - but there is some weight to go back on/in so the final height will be a tad lower. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Quoting: Gator

is there stuff underneath to shave speed humps

In the voice of the Churchill Dog : "Arwww, Yes !!" (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 15, 2010, 07:53:07 am

Manufacturer: General Motors
12337828 - Flywheel Cover Bolt

(http://www.rmsautoparts.com/prodimages/12337828.jpg)

Hmmm . . . . That'd explain why neither 1/4" UNC, UNF or M6 would fit. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

****************

Have also fired off an email to Spohn's Tech department regarding the Pinto Rack Kit they do . . . . . see if it can be fitted in-situ or if bits need removing . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on June 15, 2010, 08:48:10 am

Looks like a wood screw!!

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Post by: philoldsmobile on June 15, 2010, 06:07:32 pm

might be worth trawling a breakers - those are very similar looking to the screws used to secure the bottoms of dashboards in most modern cars.

or do GM still list them?

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Post by: F Body on June 15, 2010, 07:34:45 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

12337828 - Flywheel Cover Bolt

$0.60c (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

http://www.rmsautoparts.com/proddetail.php?prod=12337828

or

http://www.ecklers.com/corvette-taillight-housing-retainer-screw-1984-1990.html

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Post by: F Body on June 15, 2010, 07:43:29 pm

Or only $0.43 for a pack of ten (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

NB : Can't link the page, just type in part No.12337828

http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/results.cfm

It's not like it's used in many vehicles (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

http://www.compnine.com/pnmouseover.php?pn=12337828

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Post by: Roadkill on June 15, 2010, 08:15:37 pm

Quoting: philoldsmobile

do GM still list them?

Think they do.

That said I think I have them . . . when I was originally looking for them I was hunting seven machined screws . . not seven coach bolts !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 16, 2010, 04:02:31 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Have also fired off an email to Spohn's Tech department regarding the Pinto Rack Kit they do . . . . . see if it can be fitted in-situ or if bits need removing . . .

Quoting: Spohn Tech Dept.

You can do it right in the car without having to remove anything. Thanks!

A not-particularly-in-depth answer but neverless positive. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I've been speaking with a guy in the states regarding an alternator re-location bracket. Unfortunately I'll need another alternator to do it but hey-ho - he sells them for about £45 and the bracket for £50 . . . . .

All systems go, then . . . . . . . . when some money rolls in, anyway. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 21, 2010, 09:41:40 am

Got the seats all fitted and sorted (thanks to Andy for the spacers).

Got a few little jobs done, too plus now the trans has oil in it as does the motor.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Bits should be coming back from blasting today so I can start re-assembling the front end ready for wiring.

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Post by: Andy on June 21, 2010, 10:01:58 am

Did they go together alright? Pics? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on June 21, 2010, 11:11:53 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Got the seats all fitted and sorted (thanks to Andy for the spacers).

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) cool

Quoting: Roadkill

Got a few little jobs done, too plus now the trans has oil in it as does the motor.

Sweet - any noticable leaks thus far ?

Quoting: Roadkill

Bits should be coming back from blasting today so I can start re-assembling the front end ready for wiring.

Cool - is the wiring ready to go then ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 21, 2010, 11:30:01 am

Quoting: Andy

Did they go together alright? Pics?

Pics to follow . . although you can't really see the spacers.

Quoting: ianjpage

Sweet - any noticable leaks thus far ?

Not a drop - yet.

Quoting: ianjpage

Cool - is the wiring ready to go then ?

Only the Titted one can comment on that . . . . I've done pretty-much everyhting I can, now.

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Post by: Roadkill on June 21, 2010, 06:47:49 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Pics to follow

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Seats003.jpg)

Can just about see the spacers under the runners, there . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Here's another pic :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Seats004.jpg)

They're the screws that hold the headlight surrounds to the lenses . . . I've also painted the headlight adjustment screws ready for re-assembly.

The other parts should be coming back to me tomorrow from my brother . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Gator on June 21, 2010, 07:10:41 pm

that pic rules (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 22, 2010, 07:25:43 am

Which one ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Gator on June 22, 2010, 05:19:17 pm

the screws dumbass (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 30, 2010, 08:29:22 am

Quoting: Gator

the screws dumbass

Thought so.

My little Exlim loves that macro stuff. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Update :

Front brake hardlines were fitted on sunday (thanks Fubes) ready for attaching to the rest of the system . . .

Sent (hopefully) the last wave of stuff to the sand-blasters and, after much-a-to-do got it back monday night.

Thus begun a painting frenzy in order to make up some of the lost time . . .

And so;

Headlight buckets are primered and painted, as are the screws (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) so will be getting re-assembled with their new headlights tonight (hopefully).

Front crash-bar is primered and the back part painted . . . the front needs to be POR15'ed before the cleaned honey-comed part gets re-fixed . . .

Plus a shed-load of other misc brackets and clips have been done too . . . the most important being the brakeline-related stuff . . . these are finished and ready to go back on the car meaning, theoretically I could have brakes by the weekend. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Andy on June 30, 2010, 09:54:33 am

Sounds fierce! Will be ~~gilotiening, guilo... guilotenning~~ cutting your ally sheet at lunch, want it shot blasted? (finish may not be amazing but better than the light scratches it has in it now)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 30, 2010, 11:21:24 am

Can do - no major big deal as it'll be POR15'ed (one side) anyway (it's for floor-pan inspection panels). (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on July 01, 2010, 12:04:42 pm

Would this fit the bill for the reverse lockout switch?

http://www.hurst-shifters.com/hurst-products/THE-ORIGINAL-ROLL-CONTROL/ROLL-CONTROL-SWITCH#

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Post by: Jamieg285 on July 01, 2010, 01:03:27 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Would this fit the bill for the reverse lockout switch?

You can get a thumb switch on a ball shifter handle, with a 5 or 6 speed pattern on it (can't remember which 'box you've got).

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Post by: Titsy on July 01, 2010, 04:33:50 pm

Dean already has the Hurst T handle, but without a switch.

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Post by: Titsy on July 01, 2010, 04:48:03 pm

As per our conversation on underdrive pulleys:

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/instructions/bbk-1591.pdf

The BBK install also requires you to refit the original balancer/pulley to retain the balance of the rotating assembly.

If you haven't still got the balancer to put back on, or if you don't know which orientation it was in you are going to need to get your engine balanced or risk crank/bearing damage... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: philoldsmobile on July 01, 2010, 06:28:57 pm

is this the longest MKB thread ever? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on July 01, 2010, 11:40:03 pm

could be Project Monster BBQ is only @ 982 posts

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Post by: Andy on July 02, 2010, 06:21:06 am

O/T....

Stats for the most popular threads in the last 3000 days (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Roadkill's Z28     1520

Project Monster BBQ    982

Ryan's Camaro Project Thread...    897

***PROJECT DUSTER***    840

Ryan's IROC Thread    763

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on July 02, 2010, 07:28:55 am

What's most impressive, is it's on-topic to off-topic ratio. It's just not the MKB way.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on July 02, 2010, 07:44:37 am

Back on-topic, Spohn are having a sale (on now) for independence day.

You steering rack is 15% off right now! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 02, 2010, 09:25:33 am

Quoting: Titsy

Would this fit the bill for the reverse lockout switch?

\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.hurst-shifters.com/hurst-products/THE-ORIGINAL-ROLL-CONTROL/ROLL-CONTROL-SWITCH#

That fits on to the shifter stick how ?

Quoting: Titsy

You steering rack is 15% off right now!

Yeah, got the email. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

With regards to the pulley - my instructions were definately not like those linked. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I'm looking into it . . .

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Post by: Titsy on July 02, 2010, 09:42:35 am

Quoting: Roadkill

That fits on to the shifter stick how ?

it clamps around the shaft

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Post by: Roadkill on July 02, 2010, 10:58:55 am

Seems pricey for a switch. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Yeah, go for it.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2010, 06:01:16 pm

Not alot of time so here's some pictures to some up just some of the work that's gone on today . . .

Thanks to Titsy and especially to Shiftini.

ROADHOUSE !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/scoop017.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/scoop018.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/scoop019.jpg)

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Post by: Andy on July 03, 2010, 06:06:29 pm

THAT IS AWESOME!!!
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Nice work guys!

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Post by: Incursus on July 04, 2010, 09:04:20 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Thanks to Titsy and especially to Shiftini

What about me?
For keeping your sofa company and your fiancée warm. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on July 04, 2010, 11:09:06 am

Nice!

Leave it Red & Black (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: daveyboy on July 04, 2010, 11:52:26 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on July 04, 2010, 05:57:49 pm

looking sweeeet (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on July 07, 2010, 11:48:05 am

Summit have shipped, no word from Spohn yet... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 13, 2010, 01:57:05 pm

On a sidenote I suspect the Hood is now actually slightly LIGHTER for the scoop . . . .

Weighing up what was cut-out to what was added I certainly don't think at this point that it's heavier.

Admittedly I've got to do a little bondo-ing to smooth it out a little but even then I reckon it won't be far off of the stock fibreglass weight . . . and certainly lighter than the steel bonnet.

All in all I'm happy I opted to cut-up the original fibreglass one in the end - made life a lot easier.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 13, 2010, 03:48:22 pm

Following on from my front pulley / balancer saga i've found several mentions of the LT1 being internally balanced at the front and externally at the rear . . . .

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Quoting: A Guy replying to another guy on another forum . .

The motor is a mixture of internal and external.

By definition, an internally balanced engine has a neutral balancer and flexplate. All of the balance is internal. Externally balanced engines have weights on both the balancer and flexplate.

The LT1 is a combination. Take a look at this photo:

(http://images.highperformancepontiac.com/images/hppp_0704_02_z+third_gen_pontiac_firebird_engine_build+crank.jpg)

The crankshaft on the right is an early SBC crankshaft. It is internally balanced, (used neutral balancer and flexplate) but notice the offset flange shape. The crank on the left is an LT1 crankshaft without that offset flange. To compensate for that little bit of weight, the flexplate has a tiny weight welded on it.

So, depending on how you look at it, it could be called either one. Everything from the flange forward is the same. The only difference is the flange and the tiny weight on the flexplate.

Order a flexplate for a 1-piece rear main SBC 350, or an LT1. It will probably have the same part number. The balancer is still neutral, but the flexplate has a tiny weight on it... But to assume that a parts company will call it the "right" name is difficult to say. If your parts suppliers are anything like the dummies here in the US, they probably call it "external" because of the weight on the flexplate.

Put it this way... if you order a flexplate and it is neutrally balanced, its the wrong one. Call back and order the other one with the weight on it.

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Post by: philoldsmobile on July 13, 2010, 05:23:48 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

All in all I'm happy I opted to cut-up the original fibreglass one in the end - made life a lot easier.

definitely was a good move - the bond between the fibreglas scoop and fibreglass bonnet is going to be far better than fibreglass to metal too.

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Post by: Jamieg285 on July 14, 2010, 07:59:58 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Following on from my front pulley / balancer saga i've found several mentions of the LT1 being internally balanced at the front and externally at the rear . . . .

I'm not sure I hold to that theory, and would investigate further.

My 400 crank also has the offset flange like the one in the pic, but that is externally balanced. I have also never seen a balancer with a weight on it. The 400 balancer does have a notch taken out of it, and the flywheel has a weight.

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Post by: philoldsmobile on July 14, 2010, 12:27:16 pm

i'd work on the theory of go with what it had before...

I can relate first hand what happens when crank balancing is wrong - even if you cant feel any vibration,it may be there - harmonic vibration is wierd

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Post by: Roadkill on July 14, 2010, 02:15:10 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

My 400 crank also has the offset flange like the one in the pic, but that is externally balanced

That's because, apparently, the 350ci's are internally balnced whereas the 400ci's are externally balanced . . . . The LT1s are kinda both.

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/ccrp_0808_383_stroker_small_block_chevy/stroker_cranks.html

Have now found various clues that point towards non-critical balancer fitment.

Both Summit and Jegs do bolt-on replacements with no mention of balancing required, nor the original pulley needing bolting over the top.

Summit even state, that when you do a search, that the SBC's harmonic dampeners are "neutral"

See balance style:

http://www.summitracing.com/search/Department/Engines-Components/Section/Harmonic-Balancers/Make/CHEVROLET/Engine-Size/5-7L-350/Engine-Family/Chevy-small-block-Gen-II-LT-based-engines/Year/1993/Model/CAMARO/?Ns=Rank%7cAsc

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 16, 2010, 07:38:44 am

MINI UPDATE

I'm running around in circles trying to find the best solution to my balancer issue.
The good news, it seems, is either way I don't have to pull the motor to get it all balanced.
The bad news is finding suitable balancer to fit the keyed hub I need to get . . . but worse still using it in such a way so I can get successful timing light readings from it as, the LT1 has no timing pointer and I'm running non-FI so need one !!

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On a sidenote I've been speaking to peeps regarding an ideal Cam (for when it happens) and am making good progress with that.

Side, sidenote. I'm currently working on the hood. Have cleaned up the matting Shifty laid down and have added another generous coat of P40 as there were some weak points near the rear where the matting was restricted.

Weather permitting I'll have a sanding fest tonight when I get in and apply another, thinner, coat of P40 then sand down tomorrow ready for filling.

I hope to get the hood back on as soon as possible but am considering removing the hood rams as they've always been too aggressive for the fibreglass hood and now it's even lighter I'm wary of the hood getting stressed.

Plus removing the rams saves weight and I want my 2" drop-spindles !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: philoldsmobile on July 16, 2010, 12:27:17 pm

might be worth speaking to gas strut engineering in Bedford, give them your rams, and tell them to replicate it in an adjustable. you then just bleed gas out until they are the right tension.

hood props are just nasty, and probably almost as heavy..

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Post by: Roadkill on July 16, 2010, 01:10:33 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

On a sidenote I've been speaking to peeps regarding an ideal Cam (for when it happens) and am making good progress with that.

Have been recommended the GMPP Hot Cam :

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-24502586/

Not on the list yet, but more for future reference. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 20, 2010, 08:30:00 am

I really need to get some piccies of the hood up . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Any hoo . . .

Update on Hood :

Hood now has scoop fitted and last night (PhilO &) I reinforced the scoop as I felt it was a little flimsy . . . It's now more than twice as rigid.
I've also P40'd the join lines, and P40'd the transition between scoop and hood and filled the old indents on the Z28-style hood.
The Hood's had two filling and sanding sessions and last night I primered the area to see how far I was off still . . . . much to my surprise it actually looks quite close and I think about 90% of the remaining issues will go with some high-build primer . . . the rest will see a little more filler.

Update in general :

The 3-Point harness are in the car . . albeit not, exactly fitted . . .

The front brake line bracketery is all painted, finished and re-fitted. I also re-refitted the front S/S flexi's last night using all new hardware . . . thus, the brake "circuit" is now complete.

It's my plan to fit the last few retaining clips to the front brake lines and then re-fit the wheels and lower her down again . . . then I can re-fit the re-assembled front end . . . .

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Post by: Titsy on July 21, 2010, 11:50:00 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm running around in circles trying to find the best solution to my balancer issue

More Circles for you:

Note that there is (or should be) a key (or is that for the cramk gear?):
[img]http://shbox.com/1/engine_front_diagram.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>

Note item 77:
[img]http://shbox.com/ci/balancer_hub.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>

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Post by: Roadkill on July 21, 2010, 03:42:58 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Note item 77:

That's understandable as the balancer itself is weighted in order to neutrally balance it.
That bit, I'm sure I've sussed.

Quoting: Titsy

Note that there is (or should be) a key (or is that for the cramk gear?):

That goes against everything I've read so far . . . the 96-onwards have them AFAIK but not earlier - there was no accomodation for a keyway on the hub, only the crank snout - hence the common upgrade like :

http://www.thunderracing.com/shop-by/vehicle/1993-1997-LT1-F-Body/Engine/Keyed-Crankshaft-Hubs/

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Post by: Titsy on July 21, 2010, 04:40:06 pm

okies

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 22, 2010, 09:05:41 pm

Pictures :

After some P40 (fibreglass) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Crete002.jpg)

After the first Fill :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Crete003.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Crete005.jpg)

After some strengthening . . . :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Crete006.jpg)

The hood now sits back on the Camaro in Red Oxide (pic to follow) . . . She needs final finishing but is 95% there.

I needed it back on so I can progress. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on July 23, 2010, 01:34:44 am

Looking good m8 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 23, 2010, 07:20:28 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on July 23, 2010, 07:55:20 am

Ghost!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 10, 2010, 03:07:35 pm

Progress is steady.

Thanks to Titsy for putting in some serious hours over the weekend to get some wires back in the car.

I'm still running around trying to sort the balancer issue I have and, just when I thought it was sorted, there's another variable - my new alternator bracket sits the alternator forward meaning none of the previous options will work without shimming.

So I'm opting to keep my original crank hub but get a keyway machined into it so I can use a woodruff key to ensure correct timing if ever it needs to come off.

Instead of a after-market replacement Balancer I'm going for one from an early C4 Vette - this'll not only line-up my pulleys again but, as the Vette Pulley is alot thicker, should (hopefully) provide a nice smooth area to which I hope to add timing tape to because, currently, the LT1 has no timing marks nor a timing tab and pointer !!

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I'm hopeful, though . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 14, 2010, 01:18:53 pm

Updates on some on-going mini-projects . . .

The headlights . . . now all finished (buckets shot-blasted, painted, new lights) and ready to go back in - just waiting for new adjuster screws/blocks from the states.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/cannon001.jpg)

Headlining . . . . I had done this before but the "biscuit" was just too porous and the new lining (material from the market) quickly came unstuck above the driver's seat - typical !!
With the removal of the seat beats the thing had to be taken out and the holes filled anyway so it's seen one coat of 50:50 PVA, one coat of poly resin, a coat of resin & matting . . then it had a good sanding followed by another, final coat of resin.
The holes are filled and it's now firm and smooth - ideal for a new lining - to be acquired soon as I want it off the Caddy's bonnet !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/cannon002.jpg)

Nosecone back on (for a little while) !!

(Also jacked up so leccy work can be done underneath)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/cannon003.jpg)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 17, 2010, 09:24:48 am

Finally ticked another one of the last mechanical jobs off the list at the weekend . . . The brake system is now finished and bled (and doesn't, as yet, appear to have any leaks . . )

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

I also got the new Spohn rear sway bar mounts fitted . . . needless to say they do alot better job than my cobbled-together efforts did.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

I also trimmed the bolts prutruding throught the floor pan from the new seat runners and capped them with S/S dome-heads.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Next job(s) are to replace the recently fitted rubber/ally water hoses with silicone/ally but increase the use of ally lines (this is dependant on a shipment from the states so is on hold for now . . . )

The other major up-coming job is the exhaust . . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 10, 2010, 11:47:08 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Headlining . . . .

Is now totally finished and re-installed - Thanks to Ryan for the Star-locks - they hold the (now slightly heavier) headlining up a treat !!

The old seat belt holes are long gone as are the sun-visor holes . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

I can re-fit the visors but I never really used them so I don't see it being an issue . . . .

Quoting: Roadkill

The other major up-coming job is the exhaust . . . . . .

I spent a good few hours mocking up and measuring last week and have now penned-out about 90% of the system - enough to require another Jetex order which will happen come payday.

Once that's here I can make up some brackets and fit that to work out the last bits I need . . .

I've just had some bushes turned down for the 3-point harnesses too, so hopefully they should be all finished and fitted by the end of the weekend.

On a sidenote the interior is slowly going back in/together . . . If the Now-not-so-titted-one can finish the wiring inside soon I'll be right behind getting the dashboard and dashpad in . . . . . . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on September 10, 2010, 09:27:09 pm

sounds to be coming on well - we need pics!!!

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Post by: Roadkill on September 11, 2010, 01:48:10 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

we need pics!!!

Am on it today . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on September 12, 2010, 09:59:51 am

Quoting: ianjpage

we need pics!!!

Quoting: Roadkill

Am on it today . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on September 12, 2010, 07:02:46 pm

Here's some pictures . . .

The headlining over a week ago (forgot to take a pic of it fitted) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/SINGLE002.jpg)

The rear seat position - all bracketry removed ready for the 3-point harness rear mount points to be drilled (now done) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/tover001.jpg)

Some electrical thingy's (behind the dash) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/tover002.jpg)

Some electrical box next to the fuel regulator :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/tover003.jpg)

NOW . . . . . .

<drum roll>

(Tilt your head onto your left shoulder and enjoy this little snippet !) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/th_tover005.jpg)

No, it's not turning over on the key and no it's not at the "firing" point yet but It did, at least, prove that :

i) The starter is correctly shimmed and mounted,
ii) The engine has no obvious problems rotating,
iii) There's no unwanted noises coming from the block and
iv) The oil pump is pushing oil to the top of the heads.

So that's something at least . . . .

I'm pushing Titsy so I can start getting the dashboard back in but, in fairness, he's doing a more than adequate job.

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Post by: ianjpage on September 12, 2010, 08:15:32 pm

looking good - excellent to see it turning over so nicely!

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Post by: Roadkill on September 21, 2010, 07:16:00 pm

Got the bracketery for the alternator mount painted and fitted tonight - it's now ready for the new balancer (sitting in the states, atm).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/asdd006.jpg)

Next job is to get hold of some M12 bolts for the rear harness points so I can fit the rear brackets.

Then I need to order some more exhaust stuff . . . .

Then . . . .

Well. There's not exactly alot more I can do after that, until the next shipment arrives from the states. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

In reality I need to be considering moving her to her winter home soon but I was hoping to be further along than this . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 23, 2010, 07:50:04 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Next job is to get hold of some M12 bolts for the rear harness points so I can fit the rear brackets.

Done, brackets fitted . . . am waiting on bolts from the states to finish fitting the harnesses.

Quoting: Roadkill

Then I need to order some more exhaust stuff . . . .

This will be monday (payday).

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Post by: Cunning Plan on September 23, 2010, 08:47:17 am

Quoting: Roadkill

winter home soon

Where's this? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 23, 2010, 09:05:21 am

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Where's this?

Sammy Lou's mum's garage (assuming it fits - it's a double garage but they've got a lot of crap in there) . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 28, 2010, 07:41:21 am

UPDATE :

I'm happy to say that Titsy has done a bit more wiring . . . not as much as I'd hoped but some more none-the-less. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

What it has enabled me to do is get the dashboard and dashpad back in a fitted and this meant Titsy could fit the gauge cluster. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I was out last night clearing out the front footwells, hoovering them and fixing the dash and pad in and giving it a good clean and polish for some pictures . . . . alas, it was too dark by then so I'll get some decent pics tonight as soon as I get home.

There's still quite a bit of under-dash wiring to go but I'm ever hopeful. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Realistically I don't see her firing up this year, now - it's just got a little too late . . . . the knock-on effect of this is that see's unlikely to see any real road miles next year, either. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

On a sidenote I've ordered a shed-load more stuff for the exhaust . . . .

Up to this point I'd spent about £190 on bits and bobs (various pipes, clamps, bends etc . . . ) to get me going.
I just ordered another £200's worth plus £60 of straight pipe PLUS £8 on some stainless fixings as all the clamps came with BZP bolts ! (tut-tut).

Net result is that the exhaust is a major risk - along with the Ceramic headers, Stainless flanges, and other bits the complete exhaust system will be costing just about £1,000 !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

. . . And I'm not sure it'll work, yet.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

On the plus side it'll be 100% stainless from the ceramic headers back.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

I just hope the weather allows me the opportunity to fit it all when it arrives . . . .

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Post by: F Body on September 28, 2010, 11:36:18 am

Quoting: Roadkill

the complete exhaust system will be costing just about £1,000 !!!

Ouch, but it's reasonable given this includes the pucker headers (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on September 28, 2010, 12:53:21 pm

cool sounds like progress being made (slowly) then at least (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 28, 2010, 06:42:54 pm

Took advantage of the relatively good evening (although F*ck didn't it get cold quick !?) -

Dashboard :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Dashin003.jpg)

Close-up of the new Cluster :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Dashin004.jpg)

The seats and harnesses :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Dashin005.jpg)

And my favourite picture of the evening . . .

The view from the drivers seat !! :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Dashin001.jpg)

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Post by: ianjpage on September 28, 2010, 08:14:55 pm

cool looks loads better with dash / gauges back in!

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Post by: Andy on September 28, 2010, 08:28:39 pm

missing something (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

[img]http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/Dashin001.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>

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Post by: ianjpage on September 28, 2010, 08:31:38 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on September 29, 2010, 08:31:00 am

Quoting: Andy

missing something

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 01, 2010, 08:14:45 am

Maybe "Roadhouse" is something I'll get pressed into the next set of number plates I have done . . . . ?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Mini-Update :

All (I think) of the exhaust has arrived . . . It's exceeding good quality stuff - the clamps are certainly second-to-none so I'm looking forward to starting that job.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Also I've been working on a plate to fit over the "gap" left by the lack of centre console . . . this plate won't just fill a gap but will house a series of additional switches required to manually control/override the additional systems on the car waterpump / fuel pump / fan etc . . .

The mock-up is done so it'll be handed over to Titsy so he can pass it on for fabrication. When I get it back it'll be crackle-painted to match the gauge cluster.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Jamieg285 on October 01, 2010, 08:39:13 am

Quoting: Roadkill

the clamps are certainly second-to-none

What sort of clamps? I went with band clamps and they really are nice to work with.

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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 01, 2010, 08:47:04 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Close-up of the new Cluster :

Nice (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) I do like gauges and lots of them.

What's the red tweezer-like object hanging from the middle vents? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif)

Any reason the hand-brake is so high up? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/pokey.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 01, 2010, 09:00:59 am

Quoting: Jamieg285

What sort of clamps? I went with band clamps and they really are nice to work with.

They are one-bolt clamps . . . they use meaty M8 bolts so you can get a proper socket on them and "give it some".
Also the bolts run-though a tube that's welded onto the band - not pressed or formed on.

I'll get a pic over the weekend. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quoting: Cunning Plan

What's the red tweezer-like object hanging from the middle vents?

It normally holds a fire extinguisher. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Any reason the hand-brake is so high up?

Perfectly normal on third/fourth gens . . . mine looks worse as firstly it's cranked hard as there's no front wheels on and I don't want her moving AT ALL - secondly there's no centre console (which normally hides the first half of the mechanism).

I'm looking into relocating / modifiying / generally doing something with it but as it currently works fine - it's at the bottom of the list. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: F Body on October 01, 2010, 11:43:11 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Close-up of the new Cluster :

The speedo & Rev counter look better with the silver bezzel (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 01, 2010, 01:23:56 pm

Quoting: F Body

The speedo & Rev counter look better with the silver bezzel

Regarding the "choice" of bezel finishes . . . . . . . Believe me - there were no choices !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Things you learn along the way, that . . . . no big deal - just minor details I'd change if I did it all again . . . . .

. . . which I'm NOT !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: Jamieg285 on October 01, 2010, 02:38:28 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

just minor details I'd change if I did it all again . . . . .

. . . which I'm NOT !!

You see, that's your problem. You have no commitment to getting the project done properly (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 01, 2010, 02:43:19 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

You have no commitment to getting the project done properly

The Caddy's coming up next . . . . . The Camaro's just a "practise run". (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 01, 2010, 04:55:22 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

The Caddy's coming up next . . . . . The Camaro's just a "practise run".

Nice, that's what I like to hear. I couldn't imagine doing two full projects, the bus is hard enough! Although I wouldn't mind another 'easy' project to do whilst the bus is a long gameplan to finish - you know like an F150 that needs a bit of fettling to get the engine running okay, or the interior tidied.. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I hope you keep a folder of all your projects RK. Must be some impressive stuff to tick off in there already. Recent ones I can think of are the garage and bike! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Big Mouse on October 01, 2010, 06:42:42 pm

The wedding will be next - poor Sammy, she'll have her dress redone a dozen times before he's happy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 02, 2010, 02:01:29 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Nah, I'll be keeping as much out of the wedding as possible . . . Got too much on my plate already to worry about such trivial matters . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

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Post by: Big Mouse on October 03, 2010, 05:54:35 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Got too much on my plate already to worry about such trivial matters . . .

Sammy away for a few days then is she? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 04, 2010, 04:06:33 pm

Quoting: Big Mouse

Sammy away for a few days then is she?

No, she tells me she doesn't look on the forum much so I reckon I'm safe - especially in this thread.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Not much to report over the weekend.

Work was next to nothing done - which was a shame as the weather was so good on saturday.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

One major job I did start was the exhaust. Kinda.

I'll post up some pictures of the bits later but I hit a immediate snag when assembly began.

Thus began hours of measuring and pondering . . . . I know think I've sussed a way round the issue(s), albeit in a rather unconventional manner.

It should work, though . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I've spoken to a local fabricating company and will be taking some bits down there tomorrow along with some sketches.

Fingers crossed.

On a plus side the rest of the system sits exactly where I planned it to . . . the issues(s) are with the first area where the ground clearance is next-to-none.

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Post by: Roadkill on October 06, 2010, 05:47:39 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll post up some pictures of the bits later

A pic of that clamp for Jamie :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Exh002.jpg)

The rough proposed lay-out . . . :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Exh001.jpg)

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Post by: Jamieg285 on October 06, 2010, 07:04:46 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

A pic of that clamp for Jamie :

Not what I was expecting, but definitely a step up from standard u-clamps.

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Post by: F Body on October 06, 2010, 07:13:22 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Not what I was expecting,

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)

How are the twin pipes going to go around (above) the rear axle (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on October 06, 2010, 07:55:29 pm

Quoting: F Body

How are the twin pipes going to go around (above) the rear axle

erm the pic is shown from the headers looking back...it aint going no where near the rear axle (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on October 06, 2010, 10:58:27 pm

The final bends shown are exits just in front of the rear wheels

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 07, 2010, 07:57:46 am

Quoting: F Body

How are the twin pipes going to go around (above) the rear axle

Quoting: Titsy

The final bends shown are exits just in front of the rear wheels

What he said . . . . There is just no need to complicate things further by putting duals over the axle . . . Despite the fact that I have the proper upper panhard to do it - it's still unbelieveably limited under there.

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Post by: Roadkill on October 07, 2010, 08:00:05 am

On a sidenote the issues I encountered last weekend should be resolved soon . . . I'm having part of the system welded up with a notch added in the cross-over for additional ground/gearbox clearance and the other issue I think I've sorted, too . . . .

I'll know for sure this weekend, though . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 07, 2010, 10:43:55 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Plus the *correct* place for V8 exit pipes IS out the side. Fact.

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Post by: Andy on October 07, 2010, 11:52:54 am

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Plus the *correct* place for V8 exit pipes IS out the side. Fact.

With side winders are an optional extra for that uber look, only lose their cool when you burn the back of you leg stepping out. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on October 07, 2010, 12:33:22 pm

Couple of questions:

1. are those clamps stainless? If so where did you get them from? I had to use a couple of U-clamps and would like to change them sometime.

2. where are you getting the welding done? I'd like to get the collector extension welded to the main tubes.

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Post by: Roadkill on October 07, 2010, 01:06:02 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

are those clamps stainless?

Yes. Or they bloody well should be !!

Quoting: Jamieg285

If so where did you get them from?

http://www.jetex.co.uk/

Quoting: Jamieg285

I had to use a couple of U-clamps and would like to change them sometime.

I *may* have a few over - but it'll depend on how it goes this weekend . . .

Quoting: Jamieg285

where are you getting the welding done?

R.A.D Fabrication on Bradwell Abbey, M.K

They're not an exhaust specialist or anything - but they're local to me and seem like a good bunch of blokes.

I'll let you know the quality of work when I pick my bits up. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on October 07, 2010, 02:29:35 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I *may* have a few over

What size?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 07, 2010, 05:00:56 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

What size?

2 1/2"

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on October 08, 2010, 07:40:51 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: Jamieg285
What size?

2 1/2"

Good start (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Let me know as and when.

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Post by: Roadkill on October 08, 2010, 08:10:22 am

Will do.

Should be assembling this weekend. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 11, 2010, 10:02:46 am

Quoting: Jamieg285

Let me know as and when.

They're £6.11 each, new, I'll have six left over - let me know how many you want and I'll sort a price out for ya.

Probably about £4 each - sound O.K to you ? - can post if needed.

UPDATE :

Uber Thanks to Ryan for some Under-dash-reassembling and for assistance with the exhaust.

The exhaust is now well under way - I have some pics - the cross-over is assembled and fitted under the car (and is now the lowest part of the vehicle (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)).

The "side pipes" are also partly assembled but, due to the fact that I've slightly altered the design, I need one small additional part.

This meant that it couldn't be fully assembled but it won't take long once I have that final part (am ordering that today so should have it easily for the weekend).

Pics to follow . . . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on October 11, 2010, 08:11:56 pm

Some pics.

The assembled "H" pipe . . . bit of a Frankenstein's monster, this, but should work . . . took hours of effort to get it together :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Exh2001.jpg)

Close-up of the "Frankensteining" :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Exh2002.jpg)

Under the car (note that it won't be quite this low when finished) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Exh2008.jpg)

D/S Side Pipe mocked up on blocks . . . the 180* bends (hidden) had to be trimmed to suit :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Exh2006.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Exh2007.jpg)

Now all I need is the Wiring Fairy to pay me a visit . . or three . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on October 11, 2010, 08:16:18 pm

sweeeeeeeeet (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on October 11, 2010, 09:32:26 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: F Body on October 12, 2010, 07:00:34 am

Quoting: Roadkill

D/S Side Pipe mocked up on blocks . . . the 180* bends (hidden) had to be trimmed to suit :

That wasn't how I thought you were going to do it at all, I thought just the tips were going to be visible near the rear wheels (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I'm not saying I don't like it, I'm just not sure that it's going to fit with the car (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 12, 2010, 07:33:59 am

Quoting: F Body

I thought just the tips were going to be visible near the rear wheels

That was the original plan . . . however the SFC's would mean the exits would have to be ridiculously low or be heavily notched to miss them on their way out.

Side pipes definately were not the idea . . . . the original mock-up (after I realised I had to exit before the rear) had the pipes coming out one-third of the way down the sill - This I utterly hated so opted to lengthen the side pipes but pointing the pipes forward, initially, then adding a 180* bend to loop them back around making them full-length.

It looks kind of odd at the moment, the Car being red with a silver skirt - the plan is to paint the Camaro black without a separate coloured skirt.

Quoting: F Body

I'm just not sure that it's going to fit with the car

I agree in a way - but having spent hours (upon hours) under the car pondering - that's the way it's going to be.

I think once they've dulled-down they'll be more subtle, too.

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Post by: Roadkill on October 12, 2010, 07:36:43 am

I think I'm going to have to buy some proper tractor wheels to give me the extra ground clearance to get out of my Estate . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: Rob on October 12, 2010, 07:47:01 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I think I'm going to have to buy some proper tractor wheels to give me the extra ground clearance to get out of my Estate . . .

Was gonna say that....Speed humps are not gonna be your friend...!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 12, 2010, 08:30:48 am

Quoting: Rob

Was gonna say that....Speed humps are not gonna be your friend...!

At least It'll be the fastast Camaro never to leave North Furzton !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: F Body on October 12, 2010, 11:34:11 am

Quoting: Roadkill

It looks kind of odd at the moment, the Car being red with a silver skirt - the plan is to paint the Camaro black without a separate coloured skirt.

In actual fact I think it looks better with the silver skirt, if the whole car is black they'll stick out like a sore thumb (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

NB : Not rattle can matt black I hope (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 12, 2010, 11:38:10 am

Quoting: F Body

NB : Not rattle can matt black I hope

Oh, No. It'll be Humbrol Brush-on matt enamel. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on October 12, 2010, 12:19:29 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Andy on October 12, 2010, 12:53:30 pm

What about that Pro Street look with just the tip coming out just behind the front wheels?

Does look a little strange, but I like where they finish.

Is it really that tight under the rear end that you can't go over the axle? Never really looked where ours goes.

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Post by: FUBAR on October 12, 2010, 12:58:38 pm

Quoting: Andy

Is it really that tight under the rear end that you can't go over the axle?

Yes, there's barely enough room for the stock 3" Single tube on the IROCs, even my aftermarket Borla Kit rattles on the Upper Panhard Bar. and there's less than 1/4" clearance between the top of the tube and the Heat Shield.

There is a BMR replacement available which Dean has & I have currently awaiting fitting to create a bit of extra room there (& kill the annoying rattle).

I've seen a Pic of someone having *just* managed to fit a dual 2.5" system through but it has to be bent & fitted incredibly precisely to not cause any issues, even with the aftermarket bar fitted.

None of this of course solves the Ground clearance issues caused by the use of Long-tube headers though as there's nowhere for the collectors to go other than downwards as dean's pic shows.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 12, 2010, 03:40:17 pm

Quoting: Andy

What about that Pro Street look with just the tip coming out just behind the front wheels?

Would look great but firstly it'd be even louder than it will be already, Secondly the Long-tube headers aren't really conducive to this as they push the exits way passed the front wheel wells . . . Thirdly, for a street-going car a cross-over / H-pipe / X-pipe (etc . .) is essential.

Quoting: Andy

Is it really that tight under the rear end that you can't go over the axle? Never really looked where ours goes.

Quoting: FUBAR

None of this of course solves the Ground clearance issues caused by the use of Long-tube headers though as there's nowhere for the collectors to go other than downwards

That's it in a nutshell really.

All issues arise from the Long-tube headers.

Why did I go for long tubes ?

Basically these were my first choice as the physical size of the primaries best match the odd shaped LT1 ports (bare in mind that the LT1 was never designed for the third gen).

I could've put other third-gen based shorty headers and a Y-Pipe in but I figured that it was pointless upgrading the motor if, at the first hurdle, you restrict the gas flow significantly thus impede future performance.

Bunging on Shorties would've been sooooo much easier, though !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 14, 2010, 03:15:25 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Also I've been working on a plate to fit over the "gap" left by the lack of centre console . . . . . .

The mock-up is done so it'll be handed over to Titsy so he can pass it on for fabrication. When I get it back it'll be crackle-painted to match the gauge cluster.

Change of plan, here.

I've opted to do it myself, as it were.

2mm Ally plate aquired, scribed, drilled, filed, cut, notched and filed again.

Took it down to the fabricators earlier for them to bend it into shape - said they'll do it for free - fingers crossed.

That being the case the total cost will be £5.25 (cost of plate + P&P) and I should have it back tomorrow, ready for paint tomorrow evening.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 15, 2010, 09:07:54 am

Not really much to get excited about but I spent an hour or so modifying the twelve exhaust clamps that I'm going to be using . . .

After having dealt with them a couple of times I was baffled as to what the rib did running parallel with the bolt . . . . All this seemed to do was resist the tightening process then bend outwards as the clamp eventually clamped.

I cut these ribs off and cleaned the areas up . . . they now tighten much smoother so I think that will benefit assembly greatly.

I've also replaced all the BZP fixings with A2 stainless.

I tried a few different bolt / washer / nut / flange nut combos and have finally settled with simply bolt / washer / washer / full nut as the flange nuts were working a little too well and making the job awkward.

Should be picking up that panel later . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 15, 2010, 04:18:24 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Should be picking up that panel later . .

Perfect !!

Gave it a quick Wet-N-Drying over, followed by a good scotch briting and a generous clean with some Isopropyl Alcohol and offered it up for a test fit and it slid in utterly spot on.

I already had my file out as I was expecting some last minute fettling but it went in fine.
I couldn't have asked for better . . . . .

So now I'm painting it as I type . . . . well - between typing. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

. . . .

I've partitioned-off the far end of the garage as I needed to heat it to around 20*C fast . . . . .

So here I stand . . . gradually getting stoned on paint vapours . . . listening to Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska between coats as I daren't open a door and let the cold in !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/weed.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 17, 2010, 02:20:45 pm

Well.

Had a pretty sucessful weekend all round (except losing the Camaro's key, spending 3 hours looking for them then finding them in the kitchen bin this morning !).

Firstly here's a picture of the panel - a little handmade personal touch. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/CCpanel004.jpg)

Things progressed quite rapidly over the course of saturday so I didn't get another picture of the panel until it was painted and fitted with switches installed . . . . The outer switches are window switches . . the middle, red, ones are for a future Nitrous system. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/CCpanel003.jpg)

Here's a pic of the dash as a whole - note the two new holes to the right - these are cigar sockets or power for secondary equipment (data-logging / satnav etc . . . )

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/CCpanel005.jpg)

There was also progress on the exhaust front (Cheers for assistance, Ian) . . . I now have all parts so the complete system was mocked-up so I can measure up for bracketery so I can get the drawings off for production . . . (this'll be done tomorrow).

Here's a pic - albeit it's all sitting lower than it should at the moment. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/CCpanel006.jpg)

Quoting: Roadkill

After having dealt with them [clamps] a couple of times I was baffled as to what the rib did running parallel with the bolt . . . . All this seemed to do was resist the tightening process then bend outwards as the clamp eventually clamped.

I cut these ribs off and cleaned the areas up . . . they now tighten much smoother so I think that will benefit assembly greatly.

I've also replaced all the BZP fixings with A2 stainless.

Here's a pic of the modified clamp before and after. (FYI for Jamie - if you end up using these - I'd recommend it as it went together alot easier).

Before:

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Exh002.jpg)

After:

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/CCpanel001.jpg)

Finally Titsy managed to squeeze in a good few hours of electrickery meaning that now :

Tailights work,
Rear indicators / Hazards work,
Reverse lights work,
Brake lights work,
Fuel pump works,
Hand brake warning light works (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif),
Fuel & Voltmeter appear to work,
Guage lights / dimmer works,
Both Electric windows work,
Reverse lock-out (for the T56) works,
Wipers work and
Engine turns over on the key !!

So an all-round hats off to Titsy for the effort. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I'm hopeful we can cross-off a few odd jobs inside the car itself within the next or two so all work is centred around/in the engine bay once she has been moved.

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Post by: ianjpage on October 17, 2010, 05:51:04 pm

excellent sounds a good weekends work then!!

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Post by: F Body on October 18, 2010, 06:49:52 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Things progressed quite rapidly over the course of saturday so I didn't get another picture of the panel until it was painted

Crackle finish paint for the win (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 18, 2010, 10:26:14 am

Quoting: F Body

Crackle finish paint for the win

Indeed - I've utterly nailed the process, now, too.

Spray at 20-22*C, thin first coat, wait ten minutes, slightly thicker second coat (making sure all is covered), wait ten minutes then a final, heavier still third coat.

That panel had four coats which, I reckon, was one too many.

Slight further progress . . . .

The fusebox for the engine-bay stuff has been test-fitted, ready for the wiring.

That is all. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: EDGE on October 18, 2010, 10:54:26 am

not wanting to be the bringer of doom.... but are you sure that twin y pipe exhaust is going to work properly?

It's not going to do what a H or X pipe will do, not with those Y's, could you stretch back another couple of inches so you can get a proper H in there?

Those Y's look like they will split the flow and cause untold back pressure, athough, with no boxes you could do with a little back pressure, depending on your cam choice.

crackle paint looks awesome though, i do like that finish...

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 18, 2010, 11:17:46 am

Quoting: EDGE

but are you sure that twin y pipe exhaust is going to work properly?

No. I'm sucking and seeing.

I've seen worse work - so I figure it can't be that far wrong.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quoting: EDGE

could you stretch back another couple of inches so you can get a proper H in there?

No, it gets worse, unless you go more than 15" back - which I figure is to far . . . plus getting there is difficult/impossible with the transmission X-member in the way and the lowest point of the car. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Quoting: EDGE

depending on your cam choice

This set-up will not suit the stock cam but I have it on good authority that it'll be ideal for the cam I'm after buying early next year. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Andy on October 19, 2010, 04:32:59 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

So here I stand . . . gradually getting stoned on paint vapours . . . listening to Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska between coats as I daren't open a door and let the cold in !

Being quite a Springsteen fan I was shocked to realise I hadnt heard this album. I duly downloaded it, listened to it, and in a High Fidelity style piece to an imagnary camera said, 'man that's f**cking depressing'. Bar Atlantic City this stuff is sort of suicide music. Still awesome and well written, but jeez!

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Post by: Roadkill on October 19, 2010, 05:51:46 pm

Quoting: Andy

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

I find it excellent chillin' music . . . Love "Johnny 99" (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 21, 2010, 04:01:00 pm

Spent an hour in the freezing dark under the Camaro measuring up the brackets to hang the side pipes last night . . .

All drawn-up and done.

Four stainless brackets are in production and will be finished, ready for collection, tomorrow - for just £10 !!!

That'll mean I'll be able to make-up a timber jig to accept the pipes and brackets and take it back down there so they can weld it up next week.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on October 21, 2010, 08:48:10 pm

sweet no hanging around then (forgive the pun (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif) )

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 22, 2010, 07:35:37 am

Quoting: ianjpage

no hanging around then

No, all systems "Go" for as long as I can . . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on October 22, 2010, 07:36:23 am

cool - any idea on IF it will be fired before the move or not ??? (can't be much left to do to start it now . ... or u still waiting on parts?)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 22, 2010, 07:43:38 am

Still waiting on parts . . . . It WON'T be fired before it's moved, however I am hopeful that it may happen this year (ie 2010) - so much so that I intend to pick up some fuel come pay day. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I need to write a list of "To do" jobs out, really . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on October 22, 2010, 08:34:11 am

What needs to be done to fire her?

I'm thinking:

Finish Fitting Exhaust
Water Pump + Fan Relay Box Wiring
Fill with Coolant and Bleed Air (how are you going to do this without a bleed screw? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif))
Pulley + Belt
Rocker Covers
Prime Oil
Ignition Timing
Fit Spark Plugs (have you got spares as at least on was cracked?)
Fuel + Prime
Set-up Carburettor
Turn Key
Bleed remaining Air from Coolant System
Tweak Carburettor
Have a Celebratory Beer
Change Oil and Filter
Change Fuel Filter
Have another Beer!
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cheers.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on October 22, 2010, 08:39:14 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Still waiting on parts . . . . It WON'T be fired before it's moved, however I am hopeful that it may happen this year (ie 2010) - so much so that I intend to pick up some fuel come pay day.

I need to write a list of "To do" jobs out, really . . . . .

cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 23, 2010, 09:31:32 am

Quoting: Titsy

What needs to be done to fire her?

I'm thinking:

Finish Fitting Exhaust

Nope.

There's enough of an exhaust on there to start her, now . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

But it would be nice . . .

Quoting: Titsy

Fill with Coolant and Bleed Air (how are you going to do this without a bleed screw?

I've got a bleed screw - it's attached to the thermostat housing.

The rest sounds about right except the Carb - it should run well enough out of the box for now.

I have some further possible work on the coolant lines before coolant goes in . . . . I'm on this today . . . .

Quoting: Titsy

Fuel + Prime

Just fuel, really - the pump will do the rest.

Quoting: Titsy

Fit Spark Plugs

Well reminded - need spares.

I'll add to that list.

Remove Crank hub.
Broach slot in hub.
Refit hub & new balancer.
Position motor @ TDC.
Make / fit / position timing tab / pointer.
"Install" timing tape . . . . . .

That's gonna be the major remaining job for me, really . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 23, 2010, 01:15:49 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Four stainless brackets are in production and will be finished, ready for collection, tomorrow - for just £10 !!!

Collected.

Just need to mark-out and drill the fixing holes which I'll do today.

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll be able to make-up a timber jig to accept the pipes and brackets and take it back down there so they can weld it up next week.

Timber Jig is 95% done - just need to triple-check my measurements and acquire some small ractchet straps.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Have spoken to the fabrication company and they can weld it up easily before next weekend so they'll be ready to go on.

I've tracked down some suitable fixings to fit the pipes, too and will order them on Monday.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 23, 2010, 03:01:30 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Just need to mark-out and drill the fixing holes which I'll do today.

Done.

Quoting: Roadkill

Timber Jig is 95% done

Now finished with brackets attached.

Quoting: Roadkill

and acquire some small ractchet straps

Aquired.

Quoting: Roadkill

I have some further possible work on the coolant lines before coolant goes in . . . . I'm on this today . . . .

Done.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I've also been measuring up for some . . err . . "aids" for jacking the car up.
As she sits quite low and I don't really want to be stuffing a jack under any nice shiny bits I'm designing a lifting beam for the front and the rear . . .
These will basically span the chassis rails so you can place a jack under this, then once at the desired height you can then position axle stands at the ends of the beams, directly under the rails . . . .

Should be a simplier, safer alternative - and protect the shiny things, too !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 24, 2010, 10:46:56 am

Pics of the sidepipes and Jig. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Jig001.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Jig002.jpg)

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Post by: Motorama on October 24, 2010, 11:02:14 am

nice workbench(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 24, 2010, 11:06:06 am

Quoting: Motorama

nice workbench

All the physical work was done outside . . . . but the trunk was the closest flat surface to the door. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 26, 2010, 07:42:02 am

Quoting: Titsy

Fit Spark Plugs (have you got spares as at least on was cracked?)

After much calling round yesterday I have ordered another 10 Bosch Platinum's from Rock Auto + Priority shipping + VAT = £3.40 each . . . . .

Which was LESS than a THIRD of what I ws quoted over here !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Also - the sidepipes are going in for welding today.

Associated bolts / fixings were ordered yesterday.

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Post by: FUBAR on October 26, 2010, 01:53:27 pm

Any news on your Steering stuff dean?

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Post by: Roadkill on October 26, 2010, 03:37:29 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

Any news on your Steering stuff dean?

Should be here within the next two days . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on October 26, 2010, 07:32:48 pm

Schweet.
There's not particular rush, just wondered.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on October 27, 2010, 12:47:58 pm

Spark Eroding Contact: Rod Stanyon 01280 822227

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on October 27, 2010, 01:48:59 pm

What requires spark eroding? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on October 27, 2010, 02:22:09 pm

Quoting: Andy

What requires spark eroding?

Quoting: Roadkill

Broach slot in hub.

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Post by: Roadkill on October 28, 2010, 08:03:01 am

Quoting: FUBAR

Schweet.
There's not particular rush, just wondered.

You may be able to have the bits friday . . . . if all goes swimmingly. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Quoting: Titsy

Spark Eroding Contact: Rod Stanyon 01280 822227

Had already spoke to a local firm, yesterday, about broaching it.

Dropped it off this morning - will pick up later. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

UPDATE:

The packages from the states arrived !!!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/woohoo.gif)

All present and correct - just gotta start working on it.

Have brought some parts into work today for painting during my lunchbreak so they can harden before friday's session.

Got some jobs to do tonight . . . . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 28, 2010, 02:54:17 pm

Due to an unusually slack day at work I've managed to do a few bits . . .

Hub now has a keyway cut and has been cleaned-up and repainted. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

New balancer has been cleaned and painted. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

The new lower steering column sections have had their bare mild steel parts painted, too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Have now purchased the 800mm belt (it's sooo cute) and have 10 litres of water and 5 litres of anti freeze, here, at work, ready. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

The sidepipes are done, ready for collection and the lifting beams will also be ready tonight . . . . I may pick them up tonight - not sure yet. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on October 28, 2010, 03:06:23 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Hub now has a keyway cut and has been cleaned-up and repainted.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

New balancer has been cleaned and painted.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

The new lower steering column sections have had their bare mild steel parts painted, too.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

Have now purchased the 800mm belt (it's sooo cute) and have 10 litres of water and 5 litres of anti freeze, here, at work, ready.

The sidepipes are done, ready for collection and the lifting beams will also be ready tonight . . . . I may pick them up tonight - not sure yet.

cool loads of stuff done then!!!

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Post by: Roadkill on October 31, 2010, 01:44:14 pm

SHE'S ALIVE !!!!

MAJOR, MAJOR UPDATE TO FOLLOW . . . . . .

(Just waiting for pics (Ian) and Video (Chris) to find it's way to me . . . . )

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on October 31, 2010, 02:00:11 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

SHE'S ALIVE !!!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

When's the MOT booked (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 31, 2010, 02:05:40 pm

Quoting: F Body

When's the MOT booked

Still a bit further to go yet . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

She's now in storage over winter so the next major amount of work will be carried out in March I'd guess . . . .

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Post by: Incursus on October 31, 2010, 04:12:26 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Video (Chris) to find it's way to me . . . . )

I left a couple uploading this morning, before I went out. They should be on the .ftp.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on October 31, 2010, 05:55:47 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) can see 2 of em there - were there any more good uns?

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Post by: Incursus on October 31, 2010, 06:16:37 pm

Think I separated 4 or 5. Not had time to have a proper look.

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Post by: ianjpage on October 31, 2010, 06:27:48 pm

ok cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) when ya get chance if you could upload em be most appreciated !

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Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2010, 08:36:15 am

The two I've got here doesn't show the motor in . . err . . . "full grunt". (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Pics good, though . . . . Will post later this evening with a more complete update . . .

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Post by: Cunning Plan on November 01, 2010, 08:49:57 am

Quoting: ianjpage

can see 2 of em there - were there any more good uns?

I want to see!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on November 01, 2010, 10:05:57 am

Quoting: Cunning Plan

I want to see!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)

Where is this ftp you speak of (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2010, 10:07:13 am

Quoting: Cunning Plan

I want to see!!

Patience ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono.gif)

UPDATE (the last of the year, I'd guess) :

Tuesday 26/10

By now I knew that the parts from the states would be arriving before the weekend. There was lots to do ideally before moving her into storage that coming weekend so I went about putting things into production . . . .

Wednesday 27/10

A big day . . . Myself and Ian collected the parts from the Parcelforce depot meaning the first job was to inspect and check all parts were present - which they were.
Next job was to remove the LT1's crank hub (a b@stard of a job) but with effort and time we got it off the crank (meaning that I could take it down to have the crucial keyway cut into the internal diameter for positive, repeatable location) - SEE LATER PICTURES
Final job of the night was to measure up for some lifting beams I was having made to hopefully ease the job of jacking the car up (it needed to be lifted very high to drill the SFC's for the exhaust sidepipes . . ).
Titsy was also round doing a few odd jobs in readiness for a hopeful weekend fire-up.
These jobs done we called it a night around 10pm.

Thursday 28/10

An even more critical night . . . .
I had a stack of parts that needing fitted ASAP !
Finding and setting T.D.C (or thereabouts) was the key so the motor's oil pump/system was firstly re-primed.
After much messing around T.D.C was found and the motor was left in that position until we were ready to fire.
Next job was to fit the plugs (this was where the troubles began . . . ).
Long story short some went in, some went in but needed a heavily modified socket to do them up which happened the next day !
The dizzy was re-fitted and the new super-duper Morosso leads installed and routed to there plugs - no easy task !!
Next the shiny new Spectre valve covers were fitted and I cannot state enough how utterly, utterly, utterly impressed I was with the quality and workmanship of these items - go and treat yourself to a pair immediately !!
Needless to say these went on like a dream meaning we were back on schedule and that only left the new breathers to install and hook-up to the carb - SEE LATER PICTURES
After a quick tidy-up myself and Ian sat down to a well deserved and fairly late Chinese.

Friday 29/10

All hell broke loose !!
I'd spent the day running around collecting parts from fabricators (sidepipes and my lifting beams - SEE LATER PICTURES ) and making sure bits were painted and tidy before going on.
Ian picked me up from work and we headed out to collect the trailer . . . .
We were already slightly behind schedule and hitting traffic only delayed us further.
We got back to M.K and before loading up I made sure that the plugs left loose from the previous night were now tightened with my modified socket before ANYthing else.
Next Ian went about scooping up almost every tool I own to make sure everything was covered . . . meanwhile I set about making up a make-shift timing pointer out of some ally I had from the centre-console panel and fitted it incase we needed it (which we didn't) using an uber cardboard template/jig i'd throw together at work that day (SEE LATER PICTURES).
The Camaro was loaded and taken to my works unit with a brief stop-off for £20's worth of Super.
The main work was divided, basically into two.
Myself and Ian concentrated on fitting the sidepipe and the exhaust, leaving PhilO, Titsy, Jackie and Chris to raise the car, tighten the crank hub, fit the crank pulley, fit the belt, tighten-up the alternator, fill with coolant and bleed out the air. Minor snag was found when coolant start pouring out of an old sensor hole i'd failed to fill - quick trip home and an appropriate plug was found.
With the work done (and after some messing with the dizzy) I turned the key and the rest you'll see . . . and hear.
We left the unit at about 2.30am and returned at just passed 8am to relocate her, finally, to Sammy Lou's mum's house for winter storage.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Pictures will follow . . . .

Thanks to all involved in the final push.

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Post by: Titsy on November 01, 2010, 10:25:34 am

It does sound AWESOME! Especially with the cracking on the overrun when you come off the throttle... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on November 01, 2010, 10:40:37 am

oh hell yeah its a beast fer sure (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on November 01, 2010, 12:38:29 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

and the new super-duper Morosso leads installed and routed to there plugs

I assume they were all ok?? just fiddly to fit??

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2010, 03:40:23 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

I assume they were all ok?? just fiddly to fit??

Yep and Yep.

My existing ones would've melted in seconds !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Have some bling-bling wire holders here if they're any good to you . . . have blue annodised ally ones or gun-metal ally ones . . . .

They obviously won't fit the Morosso wires ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on November 01, 2010, 03:50:52 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

They obviously won't fit the Morosso wires !

Nothing that a file won't fix (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on November 01, 2010, 03:50:57 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

blue annodised ally ones

Pics please?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2010, 04:51:20 pm

Quoting: Andy

Nothing that a file won't fix

No, really, you could file them away and they still wouldn't fit !!

Quoting: Jamieg285

Pics please?

I'll sort some out . . . the blue ones are used - they came with the Camaro when I brought her . . . the others are brand-spanking new and I hunted high and low for a suitable set . . . only to have Ryans anchor-rope-like Morosso wires off of him.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Big Mouse on November 01, 2010, 05:51:02 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

They obviously won't fit the Morosso wires !

You'll need the 'special' Moroso wire holders that the rest of the racing fraternity use... 1 large and 3 small zip ties in the colour of your choice (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on November 01, 2010, 06:18:47 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2010, 08:21:22 pm

Some pictures . . . .

A Summary of Thursday's work, basically, in these two :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/z-fireup2.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/z-fireup3.jpg)

The Keyed Hub, painted and ready for fitting :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/z-fireup5.jpg)

The Corvette Balancer (needed for my alternator/belt set-up) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/z-fireup6.jpg)

My pimpin' Hub/Balancer jig :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/z-fireup7.jpg)

"Work in Progress" . . . . . AKA "How well do my lifting Beams work, eh ?" :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/z-fireup10.jpg)

Exhaust :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/z-fireup12.jpg)

Sidepipes fitted :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/z-fireup14.jpg)

Just before going into storage Saturday morning . . . :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/z-fireup22.jpg)

Video's next . . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2010, 08:36:13 pm

This is one I like to call "Whoa - that was a back-fire and a half !"

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/th_Fireup_Vid_Chris1.jpg)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2010, 08:43:24 pm

This one's "Oooo, That's Loud"

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/th_Fireup_vid_Ian1.jpg)

This one's "Where's that Fire Extinguisher ?"

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/th_Fireup_vid_Ian3.jpg)

This one's "RK - walking around, arms folded, semi concerned, semi happy"

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/th_Fireup_vid_Ian5.jpg)

This one's "That Popped a bit" (great for 2.30am)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/th_Fireup_vid_Ian8.jpg)

Turn up and enjoy. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on November 01, 2010, 09:03:52 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: art b on November 01, 2010, 10:50:16 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif) well done guys ....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on November 02, 2010, 08:09:48 am

BEAST!!!! Sounds amazing, loves it. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on November 02, 2010, 12:31:43 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

This one's "That Popped a bit" (great for 2.30am)

Is she still going to sound that mean (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) when the timing and carb is set up (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 02, 2010, 01:59:01 pm

Quoting: F Body

Is she still going to sound that mean when the timing and carb is set up

Not far off I hope . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: F Body on November 02, 2010, 04:43:16 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Not far off I hope

Awesome (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

The other good thing is that your'll be able to smell the unburnt fuel, rather than a nasty cat smell (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 02, 2010, 04:48:11 pm

Quoting: F Body

The other good thing is that your'll be able to smell the unburnt fuel

Unburnt ?

We were getting flames out of the exhaust at one point !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on November 02, 2010, 05:02:43 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

We were getting flames out of the exhaust at one point !!

Note to self: Don't park too close to RK.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: philoldsmobile on November 02, 2010, 09:16:43 pm

For sale..

2 rear tyres, slight melted patches, otherwise good.....

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Post by: Titsy on November 03, 2010, 12:22:50 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif)

How's that under-drive pulley looking Dean? Am I going to need to order one?(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on November 04, 2010, 10:23:23 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/bump.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 04, 2010, 11:51:17 am

Haven't had chance to have a look.

I'd certainly say it's useable . . . there's two points were there's damage to the peaks but the areas have broken away (not deformed) meaning it won't effect the operation.

There is a small area at the rear that has deformed a little . . . I'll take a needle file to it to reform the channel as opposed to try to bend it back into place which is likely to cause further/more damage.

I should have time to sort it this evening so will bring it to the LAN - let you have a look - see what you think.

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Post by: Roadkill on February 01, 2011, 03:42:55 pm

Work has begun again on the Z28.

I have less than 4 months until the sprog arrives so I really need to get as much done as possible (it needs to be driveable) before then.

As the car is still in storage for the next month I'm limited as to what can be done, however I do have the "new" spoiler here.

At the weekend I made up some templates to help locate it on the tailgate and some more for the rubber gaskets I'll need to make to fit between it and the bodywork.

I've just tracked down some (hopefully) suitable gasket material and ordered an appropriate sized section.

I'll be speaking to a bodyshop regarding the bodywork (a couple of very small dents, some surface corrosion and a rust spot on each of the doors) - not bad for a 28 year-old car, this week.

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Post by: FUBAR on February 05, 2011, 05:17:17 pm

Any idea yet when all the steering stuff will be off the car?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 06, 2011, 01:22:28 pm

It'll be coming out of storage during March (probably early march) - as soon as it's back here it'll be coming off - that's my first job. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on February 06, 2011, 05:50:45 pm

fair doos, I can then find time over the spring to sort that lot out onto my car after that (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 06, 2011, 06:12:17 pm

I can lend a hand, obviously, when you need it. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on February 07, 2011, 02:19:54 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I can lend a hand, obviously, when you need it.

Cool, and visa-versa too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on February 07, 2011, 08:28:21 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I can lend a hand, obviously, when you need it.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)

Been missing not working on cars lately...

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 07, 2011, 09:08:53 am

Quoting: ianjpage

Been missing not working on cars lately...

Amen to that.

Getting withdrawal symptoms !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 14, 2011, 01:25:33 pm

Work's started once again . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Titsy did just under 6 hours of electrickery yesterday (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) and I'm hoping to move her back Castle Roadkill by the end of this month to begin installing the new steering parts and fitting the spoiler.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on March 14, 2011, 02:57:05 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on March 14, 2011, 06:45:06 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2011, 11:15:47 am

Trailer booked for Friday.

The Z28's coming home ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on March 23, 2011, 11:19:55 am

What are you towing it with? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

New Mondeo? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on March 23, 2011, 11:36:45 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on March 23, 2011, 12:36:46 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

The Z28's coming home !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2011, 12:42:02 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

What are you towing it with?

New Mondeo?

Yup.

Electrics have been tested. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on March 23, 2011, 02:08:20 pm

See, not only have you got yourself an affordable, good mileage run about. You've also got a sweet tow truck/car! Just need to get a trailer and you could enter some drag racing events!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on March 23, 2011, 09:54:23 pm

Quoting: Andy

See, not only have you got yourself an affordable, good mileage run about. You've also got a sweet tow truck/car! Just need to get a trailer and you could enter some drag racing events!

Hmm might be interesting re the towing weights though for the car / driving licence ....

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Post by: Cunning Plan on March 24, 2011, 08:13:14 am

Does RK not have the good old skool licence?

Otherwise, yes you're right.

Limited to towing up to 750kg - with a car weighing up to 3500kg.

So, providing the Mondeo is classed to tow the trailer and the Camero, say 1800kg? The 'new' rubbish licence won't cover you for it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on March 24, 2011, 08:48:37 am

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Does RK not have the good old skool licence?

nope!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on March 28, 2011, 11:06:48 am

Yeah, I won't be towing long distance, that's for sure. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

I will be looking into the test for trailering at some point, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Anyway.

Less than 48 hours back at Castle Roadkill at there's been some progress.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

The Power Steering-related stuff has been taken back off of the car to clear the way for the shiny pinto manual rack.
It's been wiped over and put aside for Fubar as it's destined for his IROC.

Believe it or not the engine bay looks even more empty with the steering box and idler unbolted and gone !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

I was hoping to start fitting the new headlights but that's been delayed as we'll be making a minor mod to the front wiring loom to facilitate (relatively) quick removal of the nosecone in future.

So work moved onto fitting the "new" high-rise spoiler.

What a complete B@stard that is !

Happily, though, all the hard work is done and I'm just waiting for some bolts to arrive before I can properly test fit it. (ta, Ian (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif))

I don't foresee any major issues, there.

After that it's back on to the steering and fitting that pinto rack.

After that I've got some worrying oil leaks from the motor that are, as yet, un-investigated so could be anywhere between simple and terminal.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

They can wait for now.

The Gauge cluster is currently out on loan to Titsy so I can't easily start her up to begin setting up the carb - which isn't an issue as there's plenty more to be getting on with anyway !

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Post by: FUBAR on March 28, 2011, 11:45:19 am

Quoting: Roadkill

It's been wiped over and put aside for Fubar as it's destined for his IROC.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/fubar.gif)

That will be a welcome refresh of the steering and will hopefully sort out the odd clonk it has at the moment. Sounds like you've had a good weekend Dean (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif) i'm just sorry I couldn't come & help (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Glad to hear you're getting the spoiler fitted too, thats going to make a big diff visually (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 28, 2011, 12:07:58 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

Glad to hear you're getting the spoiler fitted too, thats going to make a big diff visually

Yup.

Just found the bolts I need here at work so that's saved me some £ and a bit of time, too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

May have a go fitting it tonight. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 04, 2011, 11:58:17 am

Update - pictures to follow.

Spoiler fitted. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Front Nosecone "broken down" into component parts for spraying. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Headlight cross-member scrubbed and jet-washed (now looks like new). (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

New headlights re-assembled in buckets with sidelight 'tails. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Headlights mounted in cross-member with new hardware and refurbed springs. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Test-fitted on car.

Waiting for wiring to connect.

Steering next . . . . . .

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Post by: FUBAR on April 04, 2011, 12:01:18 pm

cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Dean i'll pop over 1 evening this week, probably wednesday if thats ok? to get the steering bits out of your way.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 04, 2011, 02:00:29 pm

Wednesday's good. I pulled out the instructions for them and grabbed some of that paint for you to try, too.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on April 04, 2011, 04:23:56 pm

Cool cheers m8 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 05, 2011, 09:33:58 am

Pictures :

Spoiler :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/oncemore1.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/oncemore2.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/oncemore5.jpg)

Headlight Cross-member :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/oncemore3.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/oncemore4.jpg)

Test-fitted :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/oncemore6.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/oncemore8.jpg)

Just working out which bracketery I'm putting back in the front end . . . not all of it's going back. Certainly the striker-plate and bracket isn't . . . but I've got to design a plate to neatly fill the void or I doubt the radiator will see enough airflow. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on April 05, 2011, 09:54:40 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on April 05, 2011, 10:13:26 am

Engine looks great (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on April 05, 2011, 11:24:04 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/offtopic.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR

Dean i'll pop over 1 evening this week, probably wednesday if thats ok?

I'm not going to have time this week to pop over, sorry m8, too much else to do inbetween working @ the Pub pre-this weekend. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on April 05, 2011, 11:45:58 pm

Looking very cool m8, its nice to see those headlights finally in place (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

spoiler looks cool too, you'll need some nice new Hatch Struts now to hold that thing up!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 06, 2011, 08:38:39 am

Quoting: FUBAR

you'll need some nice new Hatch Struts now to hold that thing up!!

Got some. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR

I'm not going to have time this week to pop over

No worries.

It's all just sitting on the Caddy's bonnet at the moment so won't be an issue for another week (or two) when I decide to pull the old girl out later this month. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Roll on summer !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 07, 2011, 12:40:29 pm

What are people's thought on this :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140530984792&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Exchange rate isn't bad at the moment. And the seller ships to U.K.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on April 07, 2011, 04:34:57 pm

Bottle's the wrong colour. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/postcount.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 11, 2011, 08:24:22 am

A bit limited to what I can do to the 'Maro at the moment.

Got the washer jet lines cleaned and refitted.
Fitted a new line to the washer bottle.
Filled said washer bottle.
Painted and Re-fitted some cross-bracing on the front end.
Top-coated some previously primed brackets (will hopefully fit tonight)
Secured a bit of the front light-loom.

That's about it. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on April 11, 2011, 10:38:46 am

good weekend for working on the car - least you got sumamt done (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on April 11, 2011, 11:26:02 am

Quoting: ianjpage

good weekend for working on the car - least you got sumamt done

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)

Can't beat working on a car in lush weather like this!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 11, 2011, 11:33:29 am

Quoting: Andy

lush

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/slap.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: philoldsmobile on April 11, 2011, 11:54:18 am

looking good. the spoiler makes a huge difference

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 12, 2011, 08:35:17 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Top-coated some previously primed brackets (will hopefully fit tonight)

Brackets fitted. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Also took some measurements for the new slam panel (as the old panel / latch isn't being used).

Which reminds me . . . better get drawing. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on April 15, 2011, 10:12:17 am

How did the fire-up go? Did you find the oil leak? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 15, 2011, 03:58:54 pm

Quoting: Titsy

How did the fire-up go?

It didn't.

Quoting: Titsy

Did you find the oil leak?

I think so . . . . . . . .

Hopefully nothing broke in the process of finding it . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Will know more this weekend.

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Post by: Titsy on April 17, 2011, 04:51:33 pm

Cant remember which side you needed to replace... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHEVROLET-CAMARO-TURN-SIGNAL-92-91-90-89-88-85-LH-Z-28-/290552566129?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43a6485171#ht_500wt_1156

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 18, 2011, 08:52:59 am

Wrong year. Mine's the early one.

Update - of sorts to follow - when I can be ar$ed to type it. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on April 18, 2011, 12:50:21 pm

O.K. So the plan this weekend (among others) was to start tracking down the oil leaks on the Z28's LT1.

I suspected head gaskets but feared a damaged block.

It definately appears that BOTH brand-new headgaskets aren't doing their job.

On the D/S there's a definate seeping of oil on the front of the block and on the P/S there appears to be an even vapour condensation at the base which is collecting to form another seep at the back of the block.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

The block, itself appears fine.

The next question is why are both heads leaking ?

I'm taking no chances and removing both and having them both skimmed. They'll then be re-fixed with new hardware and new gaskets throughout . . . if that doesn't work - fek knows !

On the plus sides from this I can find an accurate TBC for setting my timing (something, if you recall, is a near impossible on an originally non-keyed crank hubbed LT1). Also I'll most-likely take the opportunity to throw in a new Camshaft (a baffling previous omission) and - while I'm at it - new lifters and chain, too.
With all the changes I'm also going to check the Push-Rod length (something that is utterly alien to me - so that'll be fun).

However.

That wasn't all the Camaro had instore for me this weekend.

I discovered I, as suspected, had an over-fueling problem as, in the process of originally trying to crank the motor, I discovered that No. 8 cylinder was FULL of petrol - hence my earlier concern of damage.

On emptying out the cylinder it was obvious I needed to check the regulator . . . . . When disconnecting the fuel line I found that there appeared to be a constant fuel pressure, dispite the pump being off . . . . long story short, the fuel tank had built up pressure (so the vent tube on the replacement tank is blocked, then). On releasing the pressure via the cap the fuel stopped, allowing me to fit the pressure gauge.

It was only now I noticed the "tide-mark" caused by fuel forcing its way out of the fuel fittings and even out of the carb's gakets !!!

So, yeah, regulator's definately not right which was probably not helped by a constant pressure coming from 5 months of super unleaded building up gasses in the un-vented tank !!

Soooooo . . . . . Hook up the gauge and it's reading over 8 psi - rising to 9psi - too much for the carb to take (should be more like 5.5 - 6psi).

So we attempt to adjust it . . . . . and fail.

The regulator isn't playing ball so I take it apart and find . . . . . . . .
. . . . . nothing apparently wrong.

The spring does appear a little "stiff" so I proceed to give some tenderising between a block of wood and the road.

Put it back together and - hey, presto - now we're getting somewhere . . . . With some adjusting we get it settled at 4-5 psi - good enough for now.

I plan to replace the regulator-to-carb fuel line and fit the gauge permanently, now so an appropriate set of connections are on the shopping list.

This is where the work ended this weekend . . . a little disappointed as the heads have to come off and I ended with, I suppose, more problems than what I started with but hey-ho.

The good news is that the neighbours luuurrve the noise.

Honest. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Andy on April 18, 2011, 01:29:11 pm

Does the LT1 gaskets have a 'right' and 'wrong' way up? Were the heads torqued down in the right sequence to the right torque setting?

Could be worth running a compressing test to see which cylinders are leaking, that might give you a clue what to look for after removing the gasket.

Bit of a bum weekend with some positives then! Sounds like my one last week.

You've also reminded me to update our 'project' (I'm damned if it was sold as one!!)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 18, 2011, 03:01:23 pm

Quoting: Andy

Does the LT1 gaskets have a 'right' and 'wrong' way up?

Yes and Yes I did.

Quoting: Andy

Were the heads torqued down in the right sequence to the right torque setting?

Yes and yes.

Quoting: Andy

Could be worth running a compressing test

Impossible without removing the headers completely. (I'd prefer to just remove the heads !!!)

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Post by: Titsy on April 18, 2011, 03:51:59 pm

Check the 'Braided Covered Flex Section' parts from the following link. Is this what you need to make up a new section of exhaust that doesn't bellow toxic smoke?

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/exhaustparts.htm

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Post by: Roadkill on April 18, 2011, 04:45:58 pm

I think toxic's a bit harsh.

I like to call it "That new exhaust smell" (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

They are what is referred to over here as flexi-joints (typically used before cats') and yes, I know of them.

I didn't use them for ~~three~~ (edit) four reasons :

1) They're too short,
2) They're too thick (O/D)
3) They've got crappy steel ends (only the flex is S/Steel) and
4) They're not flexible enough for what I needed.

It's not a major concern . . . anything that smokes will eventually stop at some point . . . like all good fibreglass exhaust repairs - they smell for a bit.

If it continues to smoke I'll bang some 'glass in it. Sorted. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on April 18, 2011, 04:56:06 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

the fuel tank had built up pressure. On releasing the pressure via the cap the fuel stopped

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/offtopic.gif)
On the IROC when I fill up @ the Petrol Station the petrol cap sometimes hisses with pressure release when i take it off... is that normal?

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Post by: Andy on April 18, 2011, 06:35:55 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

On the IROC when I fill up @ the Petrol Station the petrol cap sometimes hisses with pressure release when i take it off... is that normal?

Get exactly the same on our RS, filled up at the weekend and had only done about 20 mins driving to the station. Got a lovely hiss as you unscrew it.

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Post by: Big Mouse on April 18, 2011, 06:39:28 pm

New cam? are you going to buy one off the shelf or go for a grind? if you're thinking of giving it a little bit of sniff occasionally I'd take that into account now in your choice of cam.

A little extra exhaust will not make any discernible difference in day to day driving but it will wake that bad boy up when the gas starts flowing (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif) .

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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 18, 2011, 06:41:27 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

On the IROC when I fill up @ the Petrol Station the petrol cap sometimes hisses with pressure release when i take it off... is that normal?

Yah I think so, my Mondeo even does it after a run or if very low on fuel. Think it is the electric fuel pump being powerful. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on April 18, 2011, 06:48:42 pm

Quoting: Andy

Get exactly the same on our RS

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Yah I think so

Cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Sorry, Hijack over (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 19, 2011, 08:49:28 am

Quoting: Big Mouse

New cam?

Yeah. I don't know why I never picked one up before . . . at $250 it's hardly a massive outlay compared to what I've spent ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Quoting: Big Mouse

off the shelf or go for a grind?

I can't pretend to know enough to go for a custom grind. I'll admit my ignorance in this field. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quoting: Big Mouse

if you're thinking of giving it a little bit of sniff occasionally I'd take that into account now in your choice of cam.

I was originally gonna go with the GMPP LT4 Hot Cam as a safe option as I know very little about the real world workings of Camshafts . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

However after some reading the Comp Cams 07-305-08 is very similar to the Hot Cam but comes in a choice of two LSA's being 112 and 114 . . . . The 114 has a smoother idle (not that I'm bothered about that) but is also - apparently - better suited for gas / blowers.

Here's a link :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390290446922&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

What's your thoughts ?

I was going to go bigger on the Cam but I'm not confident (enough) on the bottom-end to start constantly shifting at 6000+rpm in order to get the gains from a monster Cam.

On a sidenote I was toying with getting the heads worked on a bit seeing as they've got to come off . . . . any recommendations and ball-park figures on how much I'm likely to get reamed for this ??? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR

On the IROC when I fill up @ the Petrol Station the petrol cap sometimes hisses with pressure release when i take it off... is that normal?

There should be a filtered vent-to-atmosphere dangling under the tank AFAIK . . . . . . this should prevent pressure build-up.
There should be some pressure in the tank - but NOT excessive pressure.

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Post by: Big Mouse on April 19, 2011, 06:13:29 pm

I know enough not to offer an opinion on what cam to go for other than gas needs a bit more exhaust, there are so many variables to take into account; bottom end, intake, carb, heads etc o get it right for your combo.

I'd speak to Pete Knight at Knight Racing Services in Daventry. His email is info@knightracingservices.co.uk

Nice bloke and he'll advise you sensibly. Other person to speak to is Dave... feck it, can't remember his name, Powell? but its Performance Unlimited in York, real nicefella and knowledgeable too

Both can sort out heads too although Dave has the workshop and CNC machines. He won't rip you off but that doesn't mean it won't be expensive although you're not going to need a lot doing for a little shot.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 22, 2011, 03:13:49 pm

Have tried to email Pete but apparently it's not getting through. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 02, 2011, 04:29:48 pm

Quoting: Big Mouse

I'd speak to Pete Knight at Knight Racing Services in Daventry.

Interesting.

Had no joy emailing Pete so gave him a call earlier.

He was generally helpful but, if I'm honest, would probably come across quite rude to some.

He commented that my choice of engine - the LT1 - was a mistake and that all except SBC, BBC, LS and SBF belonged "in the bin" which I thought was a tad ignorant given what some have done stateside.

It was also against the spirit true spirit of customising, too, to limit oneself - but -

He quoted £400 to skim / prep both heads (valves / guides) etc . . .

Then a further £800 for flow / port work.

(This works out at more then an off-the-shelf set so totally pointless)

He recommended an Edelbrock set instead.

I thanked him for his honesty and politely mentioned my Nos / cam situation. I ventured that I was considering using the CC 305 and he replied along the lines of "that's generally the right idea".

I thanked him again and finished by asking if he would like to expand his knowledge and tackle a BB Caddy.

"No. definately not".

"Well, thanks again . . . . ."

Interesting, albeit fairly non-productive. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on June 03, 2011, 07:07:15 am

Dissapointing when you get people like this. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono2.gif)

In some way you think that they get people asking the same old questions to them over and over again, so if they don't know you as a friend then you can understand a short and rude reply.

On the other hand - I presume it is an interest for him - engines / vehicles in general. You would have thought he would like to discuss the options, especially IF there was some work in it for him - and even if there wasn't any work in it for him, either by choice or not, you are still a potential customer who has an opinion and goes away with an impression of his business. Just as you have done you have explained dissatisfaction with his reply, which would impact any one else's decision to offer him work.

I would have rather been polite so you go away with a good impression and become and ambassador for 'my brand'. Which you then go on through word-of-mouth and social media (forum) to tell others which increases my business.

I am currently buying some BIG purchases for my bus at the moment and emailing / calling asking questions is a huge part of the buying process, especailly when you aren't talking a fiver. For example, I am researching to get a custom-made wiring loom fabricated. The first guy I spoke to was just sending back one-liner replies - THAT IS NO GOOD TO ME WHEN SPENDING £375+! It does not give me confidence that after the purchase has been made I will get sufficient support if needed. I sell stickers with a maximum value of £4.59 - but I still try my best at replying to emails / answering questions (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

So, he didn't get my business - next company I spoke to has an email trail about 15 pages long at the moment - much better (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Opps. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/hijack.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 03, 2011, 08:25:44 am

I agree.

The main surprise to me was that he just wasn't interested in venturing outside his safety zone. This would strike me as a tad boring - limiting yourself to the same group of blocks day in / day out.

I'd have thought (wrongly) that engine builders would bite your hand off to get a bit of diversity once in a while.

(Edit - I recall speaking via email to a builder in New York regarding customising and building up a 390ci Caddy block and trans . . . . . . . His immediate response was "Wow, yeah, sure - did one of those about ten years ago - love doing the rare stuff" . . . . . I still have the email someplace. Pity not all engine builders share that enthusiasm.)

To be honest I'll probably still get Pete (if he wants to, of course) to do the basic refurb work on the heads - he's fairly local so it makes sense in that respect.

As for the porting I simply can't justify a further £800 for that so I'll probably end up having a go myself.
Providing I don't go mad and break out somewhere it can only be better.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on June 03, 2011, 09:36:48 am

If you are going to have a go yourself it might be worth doing it first so that if you feck it up you haven't wasted £400 on the referb. But i'm sure you already thought of this...

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Post by: Andy on June 03, 2011, 12:17:23 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

While I agree with doing interesting jobs every so often, don't forget in the currently economy, taking on risky/over running/ or potentially futile jobs may not be in the best interest of a small engine builder.

At our shop we have had regular people/customers walk in with requests to do work as one offs. Simple ones ok, but ones that have no value aren't worth the time or effort in doing, the politest thing to do is turn them away.

Tis why i think to a certain level the world of labour charging in some businesses is backwards. For example a garage could have you car for a week, you pay a weeks worth of labour, but if you were asked to make something for someone and it took you a couple of days and you then asked for the labour, they would probably shit their pants.

Maybe its just me but I can understand why he probably said no if it's out of his comfort zone or area of expertise.

Regarding the other comments about wasting your time, that does just come across as a bit rude, but the only thing you can do is prove him wrong. Maybe he hasn't seen a decent LT1 block build yet (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 04, 2011, 05:26:42 pm

On a separate note . . . . . now I'm back working for a decent company it means I can get certain bits and bobs made up here and there.

So my new slam panel is currently being made - hope to have it next week . . . . . Should finish the engine bay area off nicely.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on June 04, 2011, 09:40:29 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

So my new slam panel is currently being made - hope to have it next week . . . . . Should finish the engine bay area off nicely.

cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 02, 2011, 01:17:29 pm

Wow.

Another 2 months gone by. Anyone'd think I'd been busy. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Major work pencilled in shortly, though. That'll make me feel better. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on December 05, 2011, 12:23:05 pm

Quoting: Roadkill on Aug 2

Major work pencilled in shortly, though

Yeah, that never happened.

Quoting: Roadkill on Aug 2

That'll make me feel better

That never happened, either.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Nevermind.

It's not over just yet.

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Post by: HardRockCamaro on December 05, 2011, 08:06:26 pm

Just caught up with this thread...

Personally I wouldn't let a UK engine builder anywhere near a proper chevy build. I totally agree with your comments re his attitude towards the LT1. Plenty of fast cars running them in the US.

When I had the IROC I intended to import a built engine for the US. They're more experienced, they're cheaper, and they have a better attitude on the whole.

If they have any free time on their hands you'd think in this economy they'd take almost anything on just to keep busy... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

It's why I hate dealing with UK companies, there's no "can do" attitude.

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Post by: Roadkill on December 05, 2011, 09:13:52 pm

Quoting: HardRockCamaro

It's why I hate dealing with UK companies, there's no "can do" attitude.

Totally.

The plan - if any - is to get her rolling under her own steam ASAP . . . major engine work can come later.

The next engine I intend to buy, however, WILL be from the states but will be of a Cadillac nature, not Chevy, the '58's waited far too long. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Big Mouse on December 05, 2011, 09:23:25 pm

Quoting: HardRockCamaro

Personally I wouldn't let a UK engine builder anywhere near a proper chevy build.

Pete built Andy Frosts engine, Jason Weir 540, Alex McIntoshs BBF..oh, and my 434. He also builds engines for a lot of circuit racers, is one of the only people in the UK who you could trust with an LS engine. He was crew chief for the only true independent TF team and worked wonders with one engine to finish 4th in the series

He will work on any engine if you really want him too, and he will do a very good job but he won't spend your money if you're paying for his learning curve.

Then theres Rob Loring and Nick Davies over at ICE in Silverstone, built some of the slickest engines in the UK race scene including Splinters twin turbo BBF. How about John Sleath? Builder and owner of, currently, the quickest street legal car in the world with a home built BBC.

Buying from the US is fraught with issues, Jason just bought an engine from the US, over £25k - only to find bent rods and f*cked springs.Who was it one here who paid for an engine that never turned up?

There's good and bad with both but there are lot of very experienced engine builders in the UK

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Post by: HardRockCamaro on December 05, 2011, 09:32:24 pm

I'm not saying every engine builder in the US is a god.

But the ones here want to be shit hot for what they charge...

While I don't want to cause offence, I do feel the need to point out that in my recollection your engine wasn't a shining example of reliability and good running for what you spent on it? But then I guess I don't hear the bad side about the US builders as I don't follow any of their builds as closely as obviously I heard about yours so maybe that's the norm at that power level. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Rocky on December 05, 2011, 09:41:03 pm

I havnt had any probs with the engines I have built

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Post by: HardRockCamaro on December 05, 2011, 09:41:50 pm

Choppers don't count Rock... ;)

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Post by: Rocky on December 05, 2011, 09:48:21 pm

Got a big block pontiac motor Im doing at the moment, Done loads of SBC
my vert will be running 400bhp plus very soon, my yellow Iroc has a tuned up SBC with lingenfelter super ram. Oh and my uncles 73 TA runs in the 9-10 secs now not bad when its driven there.

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Post by: HardRockCamaro on December 05, 2011, 09:56:29 pm

Nice!

my vert will be running ~~400bhp plus~~ very soon (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Still need to pop in and see you re some skid plates...
When are you closed over xmas?

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Post by: VIPER on December 05, 2011, 10:42:36 pm

Peter Knight does good work but is VERY VERY pricey...... Had a set of viper heads done by him in 03 ... Saying that he does do alot of GT2/3 work..

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Post by: Roadkill on February 27, 2012, 11:07:12 am

Still she sits.

Still (shockingly) I have enthusiasm.

Had a set back trying to finish off the steering towards the end of last year . . . seems Spohn never had my Third Gen in mind when they introduced their Pinto Steering kit for the Third Gen !!

Nevermind - It's all part of owning a modified car I suppose. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I'm glad I'm still philosophical about these things. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

I should have the parts I need to sort the steering and I'm hoping with a bit of backyard engineering to get it done in the next couple of weeks (assuming the weather stays good).

Apart from that, mechinacally she's pretty-much there (still got a oil leak but I have my theories).

There's just "a few" electrical bits to do - I'm assured.

Then. Paint. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on February 27, 2012, 12:05:49 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Then. Paint.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Nah, get some miles on it... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/drive1.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on February 27, 2012, 12:13:31 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Quoting: Roadkill
Then. Paint.

Nah, get some miles on it...

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)

...though how many miles is it till the first speed bump? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 27, 2012, 12:26:45 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Nah, get some miles on it...

If I don't finish it now, it'll never get finished (you know me).

Plus until it's done, I can't start on the Caddy. So it's being done and painted. And painted by me. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on February 27, 2012, 01:21:13 pm

Rattle-can black?

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Post by: Roadkill on February 27, 2012, 01:26:19 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Rattle-can black?

Satin, yes, probably.

No point spending ££££'s on a show paint finish when it's likely to pick up war-wounds.

In the grand scheme of things it'll only delay finishing her by a couple of months at most and that's nothing compared to the time put in already.

I will need the electrics finishing though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Andy on February 27, 2012, 02:01:14 pm

So is the end goal a road racer (drag strip) or was it just a heavily modified Z28?

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Post by: Roadkill on February 27, 2012, 02:07:10 pm

The end goal is getting it Taxed, MoTed and on the road.

I don't care at all what's it's labelled as after that. I just want it done !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 12, 2012, 10:01:38 am

Well what with everything else I had to do this weekend the time I had spare to tinker on the Camaro ended up only being about an hour and a half. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

The good news is that I've managed to whittle a new mid-section for the steering column and shorten the end nearest the steering box.

It still runs close to the chassis rail but I'm hoping that with some minor relief work, some welding, re-routing the brakelines slightly and adjusting the angle of the column by a degree or so I can improve this.

The next job is to raise the front wheels off of the ground and centralise the box gearing as currently I can turn the wheel fully to the right but only slightly to the left . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I reckon one more full day of work and she'll be "driveable" (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Andy on March 12, 2012, 11:00:55 am

Sounds like your steering is setup perfect for going round a NASCAR track the wrong way!

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Post by: Roadkill on March 26, 2012, 08:57:29 am

O.K. Now I think the Camaro is actively resisting getting finished !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wall.gif)

Had a couple of hours free yesterday afternoon so popped outside to "finish" the steering . . . I quickly noticed some wear marks on the steering columns U.J's which mean they'd been binding slightly. Not good as there's not much I can do to improve the angle in which they rotate . . . .

Nevermind - I'll concentrate on just centering the wheels to the steering box (simple enough).
I disconnected the spindles from the trackrods and nudged the wheels (visually) straight. Then turned the steering wheel lock-to-lock (4 turns) to find the central position (2 turns back from lock, obviously).

Great, now adjust the trackrods and reconnect them to the spindles . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Drivers' side went O.K - looked like there was a bit too much thread showing, nevermind.
Passengers' side. Hmm. the ends of the threads actually overlap !!!

This all means, basically that despite . . .

i) Printing various pictures from the Spohn web site showing the install,
ii) Watching all the (fairly useless) videos showing the set up and install on Spohn TV,
iii) Thoroughly reading the (brief and generic) instructions through several times,
iv) After contacting Spohn a few times expressing my concerns that the details were vague . . . . . and finally . .
v) Spohn getting back to me and assuring that it was all straight forward.

. . . despite all of that, the brackets for the box mounting have been welded on about 1 1/2" to far to the P/S !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wall.gif)

Now only Ian will know this but there was simply NO WAY of welding it much further to the D/S (maybe 1/2" but that's all). I had to do some modifying of the brackets to get it to fit as it was.
We got it matching the pictures from their website but Spohn didn't offer any clue as to any physical dimensions or reference points we should make/take.

Net result is it's wrong. The bracket can't simply be cut off as it'll weaken the cross member in the process.

I now need to go back to the drawing board, once more, and start over.

My initial experience with Spohn a few years ago was excellent. Steve Spohn himself would reply to my emails and advise as needed - even discounted a few bits when I brought multiple items and was really helpful . . . however after that when I was after advice regarding a header set-up they sold they simply didn't respond. Even after reminding them how many $$$$ I'd spent with them did nothing and the last email I got regarding positioning the manual box and rack was barely a one-liner !!!

Not happy. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

The Camaro is dragging on as it is . . . this just sours it all further.

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Post by: ianjpage on March 26, 2012, 09:03:58 am

Quoting: Roadkill

the brackets for the box mounting have been welded on about 1 1/2" to far to the P/S !!!

Oh FFS really- how the hell can they sell the kit for that very x member and it not fit right.....

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Post by: Roadkill on March 26, 2012, 09:33:13 am

Exactly !

I've got two major issues :

Box position and Shaft angle (I'm waiting for the mis-quotes (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif) )

I can possibly reposition the box a little by notching the existing bracket and adding a spacer/off-set plate . . . . need to have a proper look, first, though.

This, in turn, will improve the shaft angle slightly but not enough, I don't think.
I reckon I need to increase the angle by 10* (degrees) to get it to stop binding . . . I could add another UJ but that will make it more unstable AND there's no where for it to go !!!

EDIT - I've been on the Flaming River website and they don't seem to suggest anywhere a minimum angle that their UJ's can operate under !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

F'kin hell ! Get it together !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

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Post by: Andy on March 26, 2012, 10:05:18 am

How do you mean 'overlap'?

Maybe a few photos and a few of us could come up with some suggestions. It's all sent to try us someone told me! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 26, 2012, 10:51:54 am

Quoting: Andy

How do you mean 'overlap'?

As in normally while in line they (inner and outer track rod) should have a gap between them to allow for the tie rod adjuster.

I've got a big gap one side and a "minus" gap the other. Meaning the box (in this case box, rack and inner track rods) is off-centre.

I could cut the tie rods down a bit to free up some gap and I could cut down the adjuster on that side to free up some more but that'd be weakening the arrangement which I would obviously like to avoid.

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Post by: Jamieg285 on March 26, 2012, 11:07:15 am

This sounds very similar to the issue I have on mine at the moment, but fortunately for me there's enough adjustment in the tie rods to get around it.

Are you 100% certain that you've attached the bottom end of the column to the box input shaft correctly and not 90* out?

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Post by: Roadkill on March 26, 2012, 12:14:31 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Are you 100% certain that you've attached the bottom end of the column to the box input shaft correctly and not 90* out?

The box end has a splined shaft, but with the box centralised I don't see what difference the position of the steering column would make ?

Once the box is central the inner tie rods would be in their "neutral" position - ie. unbiased to either side.
In the same state the front wheels should be (roughly) inline with the rears.
Both of these are correct but once the outer tie rods are connected to the spindles there is a clash one side and excessive gap the other . . . .

Theoretically you could turn the wheel half turn to the left (as seated) which would even up the gaps for everything to bolt in . . . . the only issue is, obviously, you've got 2.5 turns to the rights and only 1.5 further to the left.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Or you shift the box/rack over to suit - which is my current thinking . . .

(see sketch)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/26031201.jpg)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 27, 2012, 08:26:38 am

Pfft !!! - I can't belive no one has commented on my funky sketch. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Anyway . . .

Box and rack are now back off the car.

I've taken some measurements and am gonna start designing a plate to off-set the holes . . . in the process a chunk of the existing bracket will have to be cut away so I'm incorporating a stiffener plate as part of the design which'll make it part bolt-in, part weld in and should brace it all nicely.

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Post by: ianjpage on March 27, 2012, 09:06:26 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Pfft !!! - I can't belive no one has commented on my funky sketch.

Anyway . . .

Box and rack are now back off the car.

I've taken some measurements and am gonna start designing a plate to off-set the holes . . . in the process a chunk of the existing bracket will have to be cut away so I'm incorporating a stiffener plate as part of the design which'll make it part bolt-in, part weld in and should brace it all nicely.

it is very good, especially the wildlife....i would have expected to see a cat with a stone heading in its direction though lol

Ahh cool sounds like that prob the best / easiest way to sort it then

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Post by: Cunning Plan on March 27, 2012, 11:51:30 am

Just to bring me up-to-date - why is it not in line? Who put the box there? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 27, 2012, 05:14:28 pm

Myself and Ian put the box there, based on the reasonings listed in a previous post.

It's a manual steering box we fitted - the car originally came with power steering but I went manual to save weight, keep the engine bay as clear as possible and ironically avoid complications !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: Jamieg285 on March 28, 2012, 11:17:22 am

How is the pitman arm keyed? Is it the same as the power steering, i.e. keyed at 90*, or can you re-align it in between?

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Post by: Titsy on March 28, 2012, 11:41:44 am

Quoting: Jamieg285

How is the pitman arm keyed?

There is no pitman arm, it's a pinto rack:

(http://www.spohn.net/productimages/1920/Pinto-Manual-Rack-Pinion-Steering-Kit-1982-1992-F-Body-Camaro-MR-1.jpg)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 28, 2012, 12:12:08 pm

Got the bits I need in production so providing they're done I should hit it again this weekend . . . .

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Post by: Jamieg285 on March 29, 2012, 11:19:32 am

Quoting: Titsy

There is no pitman arm, it's a pinto rack:

Oh. All previous post say it's a box.

I've not had any experience of racks for a long time, so I can't offer much more advice for now.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 02, 2012, 09:09:45 am

To summarise the list of jobs that needed doing as of last Friday :

Find TDC.
Mark TDC / modify pointer.
Time the engine.
Test fit new slam panel / modify to fit.
Fit / weld new brackets for steering.
Prime / paint lower cross-member / new brackets.
Re-fit rack.
(hopefully) connect inner-to-outer track ends
modify main steering column as needed in order to operate steering.
Paint steering column.
Final fit steering column.
Test steering.

. . . I Was at it every available second but the net result wasn't as much as I'd hoped. Could've been worse though . . . .

Find TDC.
Mark TDC / modify pointer.
Time the engine.
~~Test fit new slam panel /~~ modify to fit. Needs 2 mins of final adjusting
~~Fit / weld new brackets for steering.~~
~~Prime / paint lower cross-member / new brackets.~~
~~Re-fit rack.~~
~~(hopefully) connect inner-to-outer track ends~~
modify main steering column as needed in order to operate steering. In progress
Paint steering column.
Final fit steering column.
Test steering.

Basically the rack is back on - and what a b@stard that was to do !!!

Thanks to Ian for assistance on Saturday - loads of delays but we got just enough done for me to continue reasonably successfully on Sunday.

The rack was moved over 33mm to the drivers side and if I'm honest, could've gone another 3mm or so to get it truly central. Even then there's only a few milimetres of thread showing on the rod ends so it doesn't leave hardly any room for adjustment . . . . which is a worry as there's no way of improving this !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

The "TDC" related jobs will be fairly straight-forward (I hope) so I'm concentrating on sorting the steering column out this week.

I've said this before, I know, but there's no reason why she shouldn't be moveable under own power by the end of this weekend.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 02, 2012, 09:12:08 am

A few pics to follow . . . I'll try and get some of it all fitted tonight. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(apologies to the engineers for the lower case text used in the drawing on the picture - it's how I distinguish between my "official" and "non-official" drawings) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG0755.jpg)

Did have a video, too, but that was taking forever to upload !!

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Post by: ianjpage on April 02, 2012, 10:09:01 am

Quoting: Roadkill

The rack was moved over 33mm to the drivers side and if I'm honest, could've gone another 3mm or so to get it truly central. Even then there's only a few milimetres of thread showing on the rod ends so it doesn't leave hardly any room for adjustment . . . . which is a worry as there's no way of improving this !!

wow that's mad - there is no way that original bracket would have fitted anywhere near that!!!

Dunno about you but boy did i have a bad case of arc-eye saturday night / sunday ...

Quoting: Roadkill

The "TDC" related jobs will be fairly straight-forward (I hope) so I'm concentrating on sorting the steering column out this week.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

I've said this before, I know, but there's no reason why she shouldn't be moveable under own power by the end of this weekend.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) cool - let us know when / if you need help as be great to see it move on its own at last!

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Post by: Roadkill on April 02, 2012, 10:37:17 am

Quoting: ianjpage

Dunno about you but boy did i have a bad case of arc-eye saturday night / sunday ...

Actually I was fine. Forehead was sore, though ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

Am off Thursday-Tuesday so am hoping that with a 6-day weekend to get the bitch moving !!!

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Post by: ianjpage on April 02, 2012, 11:19:33 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Actually I was fine. Forehead was sore, though !

lol yeah my face is a bit red and sore lol

Quoting: Roadkill

Am off Thursday-Tuesday so am hoping that with a 6-day weekend to get the bitch moving !!!

Cool, likewise off thanks to the wonders of bank holidays! (and more!)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 02, 2012, 11:41:53 am

I've got Sammy's mum looking after Jensen on Thursday so I should be unhindered !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

He didn't fall asleep until 5pm yesterday - had him out with me in the front garden but he kept getting bored and moaning !

He was mesmerised (sp) by a 19mm spanner - even after clonking himself in the head with it !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 02, 2012, 08:19:22 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I've got Sammy's mum looking after Jensen on Thursday so I should be unhindered !!

lol nicely done!!

Quoting: Roadkill

He didn't fall asleep until 5pm yesterday - had him out with me in the front garden but he kept getting bored and moaning !

Ahh probably wanted to play with / in the car (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

He was mesmerised (sp) by a 19mm spanner - even after clonking himself in the head with it !

LOL - oops poor thing!!

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Post by: Andy on April 03, 2012, 05:35:00 am

Oh dear, dimensioning the Hypotenuse of a triangle. I got a bollocking for that at college (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Good work guys! Can you get some photos of it all fixed on the car? Intrigued, especially as you say you don't have much adjustment... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 03, 2012, 04:12:33 pm

Quoting: Andy

Oh dear, dimensioning the Hypotenuse of a triangle. I got a bollocking for that at college

Yeah, my Draughting lecturer came out with all manner of bull$hit . . . unfortunately it's often different in the real world . . . adding dimensions like that often result in getting something that's right !

My philosophy has always been as few dimensions as possible - but always more than just enough. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Anyway . . .

She's playing proper hard-ar$e, now.

Was outside for a couple of hours after work yesterday and decide that the only way I could stop the binding on one of the UJ's was to introduce another - namely the stock original (limited) UJ at the top of the column.

I had to modify it somewhat but got it fitting nice . . . angles looked good but the section attached to it was shorter than the one that came out so I had to modify one of my already modified sections to get the correct length.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Alas, there was too much slop when turning the wheel . . . which was a b@stard because everything else looked good !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Nevermind . . . I've still got a couple of bits of round bar in my tool box that I can file down to fit !!!

Got one or two more different arrangements to try . . . each one seems to take about 2 hours including all the fettling so I'm hoping the weather improves so I can get out there tonight . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on April 03, 2012, 04:33:39 pm

Blimey there's a lot of work going on! 1st time i've read this thread for a while so catching up a bit, like the sketch BTW (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Not looking promising for this evening's weather (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 03, 2012, 08:33:43 pm

Good to see some work (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 04, 2012, 08:30:18 am

Quoting: FUBAR

Not looking promising for this evening's weather

Quite. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Nevermind - It gave me the opportunity to finish a couple of jobs in the kitchen and tidy the garage.

I should be getting back from site early today so my 6-day-weekend should hit the ground running . . . . weather permitting.

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Post by: Andy on April 04, 2012, 09:18:17 am

Now that's an Easter Holiday if the weather holds, 6 days of grease, oil and scraped knuckles!

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Post by: Roadkill on April 04, 2012, 09:59:17 am

Yeah ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

My forehead started peeling last night after my close-up welding exploits at the weekend !!!

Hardcore !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 04, 2012, 10:30:57 am

Quoting: Roadkill

My forehead started peeling last night after my close-up welding exploits at the weekend !!!

LOL same here...whole face is now peeling nicely!

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Post by: Roadkill on April 11, 2012, 09:05:21 am

If there was such-a-thing as a Anti-Update - Maybe a Undate or a Downdate (???) - I'd be posting it.

Utterly disasterous Easter weekend on the Camaro . . . truly the gods were/are against us.

Nevermind. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Several months (or a year ?) of time and £££ down the pan.

A few small battles won but we were definately on the losing side this time.

I'm now off to spend more money I don't have !!!

It's not over, yet. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

EDIT - Ian - Re. our discussions yesterday . . . . . There are now 1.65 ratio rockers available . . . And my springs can eat the extra valve lift . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/whistle.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 11, 2012, 03:15:19 pm

It never ceases to amaze me how much money you can throw at an engine . . . I've learnt alot today, though.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Could pick up a few extra HP for "relatively" little out lay . . . . . . . . . And as my top end is back in pieces I don't see why not.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 11, 2012, 07:35:09 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 11, 2012, 08:20:23 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

EDIT - Ian - Re. our discussions yesterday . . . . . There are now 1.65 ratio rockers available . . . And my springs can eat the extra valve lift . . . .

Oooo now i bet that's tempting (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

Could pick up a few extra HP for "relatively" little out lay . . . . . . . . . And as my top end is back in pieces I don't see why not.

Hmm do tell more....

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Post by: Roadkill on April 12, 2012, 04:18:19 pm

Actually 1.7 RR's are available (with "minimal" mods) giving .600" of valve lift !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

The Mods in question should push her well into the 400Bhp territory. It's top-end mods so to make it safe everything needs up-and-over-rated.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

I can make some basic changes that open up a bigger selection of performance parts . . . . it's all money, though . . . and research, too.

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Post by: ianjpage on April 12, 2012, 08:40:41 pm

Hmm cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) sounds promising !

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Post by: Roadkill on April 20, 2012, 10:24:16 am

Another $2,000 shopping list ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 20, 2012, 11:29:31 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 20, 2012, 12:06:22 pm

Seriously? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/jaw.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on April 20, 2012, 12:08:06 pm

Any spares for sale?(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on April 20, 2012, 12:42:45 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Any spares for sale?

Can I Haz your Stuff?... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

(sorry Eve joke...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif))

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Post by: Roadkill on April 28, 2012, 11:53:38 am

Quoting: Titsy

Any spares for sale?

Yeah, I've got a set of billet ally 1.6 Ratio S.A RR's . . . . . 6 good, 10 not so good.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 28, 2012, 11:57:12 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Another $2,000 shopping list

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Seriously?

Well about $1925ish depending on other bits . . . . there's some fairly serious stuff on there, though.

Will need to machine bits of the LT to get them to fit. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

I'm basically creating a S.B.C Gen 1.5 Motor. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on April 29, 2012, 10:42:23 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Yeah, I've got a set of billet ally 1.6 Ratio S.A RR's . . . . . 6 good, 10 not so good.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

I think I'll pass... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 24, 2012, 08:37:27 pm

The Z28's on hold until I can justify spending the $2000 I need to . . . The initial rush is unnecessary, now, anyway so I don't feel as bad.

Have plans in the making . . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on May 24, 2012, 09:43:14 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Have plans in the making . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2012, 11:02:31 am

O.K, with the 15lb Nitrous kit removed from the shopping list that makes it around £1100 including shipping & taxes (apparently).

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Should still see some solid gains from what's on the list but with the extra shipping charges the NO2 kit was effectively costing £496 . . which is good but I just don't want it that bad.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on July 03, 2012, 12:26:29 pm

(http://forum.earlybay.com/images/smilies/party0051.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2012, 12:55:00 pm

I'll be putting in my expenses tomorrow so . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/ebayanim.gif) (just because we don't have a "Summit" smiley)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 03, 2012, 02:27:37 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) hopefully (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/drag.gif) soon then lol

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Post by: Roadkill on July 05, 2012, 10:47:15 am

Just ordered the 3/4" Steering Heim to support the column from the states (it worked out cheaper that way !!)

Also ordered two 500mm lengths of 316 Stainless, 3/4" bar, too . . . Stainless worked out only slightly more expensive and at least I don't have to worry about painting it or it rusting !

Expenses went in today, also . . . . . . . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on July 05, 2012, 10:57:40 am

cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 19, 2012, 12:03:33 pm

Steering Heim arrived - excellent quality - bargain.
Stainless bars arrived (eventually) - perfect.

Order to Summit placed "££££" - Exchange rate of $1.52/£ - Cheers, Paypal (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

The recent ebay sales helped buffer the purchases, at least. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

FYI, on the list :

New Camshaft,
New Lifters,
New Guide Plates,
New Rocker Studs
New Push Rods,
New Full Roller Rockers,
New Double Roller Timing chain and gears (that'll be fun fitting that !!)
2 more Hood pins (making 4)
Camshaft Tool
Push Rod Checking Tool
Remote Starter Trigger (for testing)
and Lube. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Still need a water Pump gasket kit . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 19, 2012, 12:17:53 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) cool

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Post by: Andy on July 19, 2012, 02:40:01 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Also ordered two 500mm lengths of 316 Stainless, 3/4" bar, too

Only just seen this but I could've spared you an off cut of stainless from here, unless it had to be 316? We've got a generic pile of 'Stainless' that we use for making gauges or just bits of tooling.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 19, 2012, 05:31:07 pm

316 was preferred . . . Some of the others are a little softer and not as corrosion resistant. Didn't want to take any chances.

If I have to do the steering column a THIRD time round I'll give you a shout. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 28, 2012, 01:06:33 pm

Some "progress" apparently . . . Although it looks awful.

As if I haven't got enough to be dealing with at the moment completely out-of-the-blue my brother phones me up an offers to start doing the bodywork on the Z28 . . . . almost one year after he was supposed to start.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Well. He's managed a day's worth of work . . . . no sign of him today !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

It's utter chaos, here . . . The Fourth Gen is over my parents (no room here) . . Mondeo's parked across the street (no room here) and the Caddy is parked outside (need the room in the garage).

Utter chaos . . for how long ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Anyway - Some pics . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1052.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1054.jpg)

Rear D/S lower panel is the worst . . . it's had a very minor scrape at some stage that's been well repaired but has kinked the lower surface that caused rust behind the plastic trim panels. The rust is removed, the area treated and new metal put in. He's also made a start welding up the old spoiler holes, too.

Not bad for a 30 year old car. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

In other news . . . . Look what arrived yesterday

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1056.jpg)

Oh for more time . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on July 28, 2012, 04:17:21 pm

Nice dude!

What are those blue things on the right? Rockers? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on July 28, 2012, 05:17:21 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

What are those blue things on the right? Rockers?

Roller Rockers i believe (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 29, 2012, 09:36:45 am

poor car looks sorry for itself least a start has been made tho , oooo nice box of new shiny bits :)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 30, 2012, 08:21:04 am

I am now - officially - the neighbour from hell !

It's Gazebo city on the front garden . . . TWO 2.5m x 2.5m and ONE 3m x 6m !!!

Thankfully I've got one of the biggest gardens in the cul-de-sac but, still . . . they cover most of it !!

:pikey:

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

My brother had better show up and get 'er done ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 30, 2012, 11:47:18 am

lol it definately did look ... interesting shall we say hehe!

Quoting: Roadkill

My brother had better show up and get 'er done !

True indeed he best get it done...

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Post by: Jamieg285 on July 30, 2012, 01:52:24 pm

I still can't get over the fact that you've paid for a remote starter switch.

I got a simple momentary push switch from Maplins, a toilet roll and electrical tape to make a handle, red + black wire, plus two crocodile clips.

I've gone on to improve it, adding a mini harness and connector under the engine bay, into which I plug my 'diagnostic unit'. Remote starter as above, mini-tach, oil pressure and water temp, plus an ignition power switch so I don't need to go near the key to start or stop.

Admittedly, I did have the gauges lying around spare, but it would still be a cheap setup even if I did have to buy them.

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Post by: Gator on July 30, 2012, 09:12:53 pm

glutton for punishment (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

i am getting a temp garage [tent] for the firebird, thats the only drawback to the dodge the other being outside (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: art b on July 31, 2012, 11:08:36 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I am now - officially - the neighbour from hell !

Quoting: Roadkill

I am now - officially - the neighbour from hell !

you mean there was ever any doubt....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: art b on July 31, 2012, 11:09:32 am

Quoting: Gator

i am getting a temp garage [tent] for the firebird, thats the only drawback to the dodge the other being outside

i thought you could get two yanks in ya garage...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 31, 2012, 12:16:35 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

I still can't get over the fact that you've paid for a remote starter switch.

It was about $15 so actually cheaper than me fannying around going to maplins for switches and clips. $15 wouldn't even cover my time, let alone diesel and parts. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

As for the other add ons . . ??? I just need to kick the motor over . . . It doesn't need to make me a cuppa tea and give me a blow job at the same time. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 31, 2012, 12:18:33 pm

Quoting: art b

you mean there was ever any doubt....

Yeah. My garden does now look alot like a South American shanty town. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 31, 2012, 08:46:32 pm

has he turned up and done any more since the w/end ?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 31, 2012, 10:11:47 pm

He did about an hour (if that) today . . . his first effort since Friday.

Why do I think I'll be the one finishing this ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

In truth the situation is now one that can't be reversed (easily) . . . the doors are off and there's exposed metal. One way or another (by one person or another) it's got to get done.

With the Wedding under four weeks away (and Autumn soon after) I don't have long . . . . Cellulose paint requires up to 3 months to fully harden . . . that's 3 months out of the weather and 3 months away from U.V.

With the lack of sun keeping her out of U.V won't be hard but 3 months protected from the other elements . . . ?

That'll be tough.

A lot to accomplish in not alot of time.

I suspect I'll be hitting the panic button this weekend when my brother fails to meet the target . . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on August 01, 2012, 11:31:28 am

Ah not good then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) lets hope he gets on with it for the rest of this week!!

Defo not much time left at all!

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Post by: Roadkill on August 01, 2012, 12:08:31 pm

I'm glad I've not been holding my breath ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

No sign of him today, apparently. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wanker.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on August 01, 2012, 01:38:48 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

No sign of him today, apparently.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wanker.gif)

More likely busy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/weed.gif) from what you've said...

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Post by: Roadkill on August 01, 2012, 03:14:50 pm

No, he can multi-task. He can smoke pot and be a complete, useless, unreliable c*nt all at the same time !

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 05, 2012, 10:10:02 pm

Progress . . . of sorts, yes, progress . . . .

No pictures, unfortunately, though.

There's now some grey primer on the car . . . and it's stripped as far as it needs to be . . . but that's it.

Got the 4 hood pins fitted. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(link dump http://www.superchevy.com/technical/paint_body/bodywork/sucp_0904_door_handle_shaving_guide/ )

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Post by: Roadkill on August 07, 2012, 08:12:11 am

Let down . . . . again . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Think I'll be on the welder tonight. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on August 07, 2012, 11:20:04 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Let down . . . . again . . . .

Hmm sounds a familiar story that does!!!

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Post by: ianjpage on August 07, 2012, 11:21:48 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Think I'll be on the welder tonight.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mechanic2.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 07, 2012, 12:56:38 pm

Apparently he showed up a little while ago . . . complaining about lack of space !

Told him we're shuffling the car over tonight . . . . I'll aim to be back at mine for 5.30pm, Ian, as I need to speak to him re topcoat and other bits and bobs . . . . . . (and he assures me he'll still be there, then) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on August 08, 2012, 07:05:08 am

Wonders never cease - to say i was shocked to see him there till gone 7pm was, well, shocking!

Lets hope he's back today to carry on and get it done!!

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Post by: Roadkill on August 08, 2012, 08:31:58 am

Absolutely !

As an update :

The roof is now dent free and 90% in primer
Both doors are at varying degrees of done . . . the passenger door is nearly there, the drivers door only just started (rust on the bottom)
Front N/S wing is done and 100% in primer (I think)
Front O/S wing has been started
Rear N/S panel is finished and in primer
Rear O/S panel is started
Neither door shuts or boot shut have been started (but they're pretty good).
Bonnet is in primer (hardly any work needed on it)
Rear panel (behind lights) is cleaned and ready for a rub down
Boot panel is in primer

No removable panels (nosecone, bumper covers, trim, etc . . ) have been started . . .

Some pics from last night.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1073.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1071.jpg)

Replaced Ian and Vicky's "pop-up" Gazebo with this cheapie from ebay (£54 delivered) to finish the bodywork in, paint her in and (hopefully) store her in for a while afterwards . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1074.jpg)

Amazed at the relative quality. With a couple of very minor tweaks it's keeping 99.9% of the rain and 95% of the wind out.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Just hope it holds together long enough to get it all done !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on August 08, 2012, 10:01:17 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 08, 2012, 11:05:00 pm

He was round AGAIN today !

Not surprising . . . He's after his money and I've told him I ain't paying a penny more til he's done ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Did a few bits myself in order to keep the ball rolling plus multiple bodywork related ebay purchases . . .

At this rate She'll be "ready" for paint next week - early next week at that.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on August 09, 2012, 07:17:04 am

Quoting: Roadkill

He was round AGAIN today !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) wow

Quoting: Roadkill

Not surprising . . . He's after his money and I've told him I ain't paying a penny more til he's done !

lol that would explain it then!!

Quoting: Roadkill

Did a few bits myself in order to keep the ball rolling plus multiple bodywork related ebay purchases . . .

At this rate She'll be "ready" for paint next week - early next week at that.

Cool, sounds promising then!
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 09, 2012, 05:03:50 pm

He intends to finish tomorrow (AKA He wants paying tomorrow)

That means . . . . after a serious flatting session that we're ready for paint THIS WEEKEND !!!

(More stuff for me to buy / find / arrange / organise) . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on August 09, 2012, 09:37:57 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

OMFG seriously - he must really want that money then, but hey least it's getting done!

Lemme know what time you want us round Saturday (and if you need anything doing tomorrow eve?)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 09, 2012, 10:18:03 pm

I reckon - honestly - I'll have little odds and sods to do Friday night / Saturday but we'll see.

The tail gate will have to come off - not critical but it'll certainly help when painting the shuts.

Saturday I'll definitely appreciate assistance . . . Friday evening I suspect will be running around getting stuff (namely paint and thinners).

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 10, 2012, 07:12:29 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I reckon - honestly - I'll have little odds and sods to do Friday night / Saturday but we'll see

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

The tail gate will have to come off - not critical but it'll certainly help when painting the shuts.

Yeah but again its (another) big panel to store / put somewhere

Quoting: Roadkill

Saturday I'll definitely appreciate assistance . . . Friday evening I suspect will be running around getting stuff (namely paint and thinners).

Okeis NP - lemme know if you need a hand tonight, otherwise tomorrow it is - fairly early start?

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Post by: Roadkill on August 10, 2012, 04:42:25 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

fairly early start?

Depends - Only just got back from work so I need to assess the situation . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on August 10, 2012, 08:36:05 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Depends - Only just got back from work so I need to assess the situation . . .

Okies i'll check in later, if not be round fer 9ish unless i hear otherwise (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 10, 2012, 08:56:30 pm

Hmm . . . A lower trim hasn't been done and there's little odds and sods that haven't been finished.

It's close. Real close. But it needs a *little* more work before it's ready for flatting . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 13, 2012, 12:17:46 pm

Link dump

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/0603ch_1982_1992_chevy_camaro/

http://www.ebay.com/itm/82-92-Camaro-IROC-Z28-Lower-Door-Hinge-Bushing-Pin-/380455484459?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3ACamaro&hash=item5894e9fc2b&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-82-92-Firebird-Camaro-F-Body-top-door-hinge-pins-/110934252945?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19d4325d91&vxp=mtr

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Post by: Roadkill on August 13, 2012, 02:44:51 pm

4 Litres of Satin Black (and 5 litres of thinners) ordered . . . . Should be here Thursday.

Got me hands on a Devilbiss GTi gun . . . just need to borow some longer lines and I'm good to go*

*Once the prep work is finished . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 13, 2012, 03:28:23 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

4 Litres of Satin Black (and 5 litres of thinners) ordered . . . . Should be here Thursday.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) cool

Quoting: Roadkill

just need to borow some longer lines and I'm good to go*

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 13, 2012, 10:39:16 pm

More prep work done tonight. Spent over an hour rubbing down the underside of the hood ... filled some missed holes on the nosecone - will finish them of tomorrow.

Hopefully finish the "initial" prep work Tuesday, ready to begin final prep on Wednesday.

Will post pictures but it's dark every evening I get finished !

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Post by: Roadkill on August 14, 2012, 09:25:52 pm

Initial prep work done. Basically.

Gonna have a tidy up tomorrow inside and out of the car ready for the wet sanding session (and a half).

My concern at the moment is door hinges . . . I brought replacement pins to refurbish my original ones (drivers door is pretty bad) but now they're off and I can investigate properly I think I may actually not need the main pins but the roller-bushes and the pin they go on.

This is going to be a potential hold up. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on August 14, 2012, 09:42:16 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Initial prep work done. Basically.

Gonna have a tidy up tomorrow inside and out of the car ready for the wet sanding session (and a half).

Cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

My concern at the moment is door hinges . . . I brought replacement pins to refurbish my original ones (drivers door is pretty bad) but now they're off and I can investigate properly I think I may actually not need the main pins but the roller-bushes and the pin they go on.

This is going to be a potential hold up.

Ah not good - the bits in kit not what's gone then ... bummer.... spose whilst there off it makes sense to replace / fix em but equally if you got to wait for parts, could delay the painting.......argh not good either way (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 16, 2012, 10:18:55 am

The Outlook is bleak. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Although intact, the gazebo/paintbooth took a pounding yesterday and today . . . I spent 2 hours re-securing clips and ropes and adding whatever additional ties I could.

Even with the gazebo it's too windy to paint . . not that I'm ready yet, anyway.

My brother just hasn't left me enough time to do this in . . . just one weekend.

I had to work late last night so it was dark by the time I got in . . . Coupled with the wedding in just over a week I'm struggling to see how anything's gonna get done at the moment !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

I did get the airline sorted, though . . twin water traps and the gun . . Got it up to 60psi - no leaks. That's one thing off the list. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

EDIT - Paint and thinners have arrived . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on August 16, 2012, 10:25:30 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Although intact, the gazebo/paintbooth took a pounding yesterday and today . . . I spent 2 hours re-securing clips and ropes and adding whatever additional ties I could.

ah not good - wind moved it much or just loosened everything ?

Quoting: Roadkill

I did get the airline sorted, though . . twin water traps and the gun . . Got it up to 60psi - no leaks. That's one thing off the list.

EDIT - Paint and thinners have arrived . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) least that some good news then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

Coupled with the wedding in just over a week I'm struggling to see how anything's gonna get done at the moment !!

here's hoping it does get done (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on August 16, 2012, 11:12:18 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Coupled with the wedding in just over a week I'm struggling to see how anything's gonna get done at the moment !!

Postpone it a couple of weeks, Sammy will understand (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

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Post by: Andy on August 16, 2012, 12:46:48 pm

Nothing says you're more ready to commit your lives to one an other than postponing the wedding so you can paint a car.

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Post by: Incursus on August 16, 2012, 01:00:13 pm

Quoting: Andy

Nothing says you're more ready to commit your lives to one an other than postponing the wedding so you can paint a car.

Indeed, Hallmark probably have a card for such occasion...

Besides Milton Keynes General will probably be able to patch you up afterwards...assuming they find all the pieces (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 17, 2012, 08:10:27 am

Managed to get half the car itself (ie half the body shell and front wings) wet flatted last night before running out of light . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on August 17, 2012, 11:04:18 am

Some pictures - hot of the press as it were . . . My arms are about to drop off . . . need a break !!

Need to wet sand around the engine bay then touch in a couple of areas that've shown up.

Still bloody windy . . . But I've gotta get something painted today or I stand no chance !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1083.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1085.jpg)

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Post by: ianjpage on August 17, 2012, 11:17:40 am

looking good so far (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif) paint gets on soon!

(what's the plan for the w/end ?)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 17, 2012, 12:38:23 pm

Nothing done in the last 1.5 hours . . . wind's picked up. Gazebo being ripped apart. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 17, 2012, 01:36:45 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

(what's the plan for the w/end ?)

Paint. ~~Hopefully~~ It's got to be.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on August 17, 2012, 02:23:18 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

wind's picked up. Gazebo being ripped apart

Well up here in Gaydon the torrential rain has stopped and the sun's come out...still quite windy though (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 17, 2012, 02:40:13 pm

Wind has died down . . . still very breezy (too bad to paint in considering the damage to the gazebo) but the gazebo isn't at risk of taking off, now !

Speaking of damage . . . we have some ripped ties, a shredded corner or two and a buckled pole . . . among other things.
The wind can freely blow through it at the moment so before painting I'll have to sort that . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

The whole body shell has now been flatted with 600-grit. Went through in a few places so just building them up with a bit of high-build before finishing flatting entirely.

I need to have a wipe-down and see if it dries in time for paint this evening (risky).

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Post by: Roadkill on August 18, 2012, 09:07:18 pm

Had a try out with the devilbiss on the underside of the bonnet and was getting major splatter.
Took it apart and did some Googling.

Today I had no one to look after Jensen until around 2ish. Did some strengthening to the gazebo ..... nearly fainted in the heat under there ..... also hadn't eaten in over a day so decided to give in and get some lunch.

Stripped the devilbiss down again before trying and found (eventually and given my complete lack of knowledge on paint guns) that there were two seals missing ! No chance of getting any after 5 on a Saturday so decided to make some up. Long story short, the gun appears to be working now. However it'd gotten too late to paint so the best I could do was mask up ready for an early start tomorrow .....

So no real progress in nearly two days. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 18, 2012, 09:26:36 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Today I had no one to look after Jensen until around 2ish. Did some strengthening to the gazebo ..... nearly fainted in the heat under there ..... also hadn't eaten in over a day so decided to give in and get some lunch.

wow must have been hot then!! not surprising seeing as it is white!

Quoting: Roadkill

Stripped the devilbiss down again before trying and found (eventually and given my complete lack of knowledge on paint guns) that there were two seals missing ! No chance of getting any after 5 on a Saturday so decided to make some up. Long story short, the gun appears to be working now. However it'd gotten too late to paint so the best I could do was mask up ready for an early start tomorrow .....

Ahh that'd certainly cause issues - how'd you find out - google or yer brother ?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 20, 2012, 11:09:21 am

I'll post pictures later but there's now Black stuff all over the Camaro !

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The main body shell and front wings are done. Got the rear bumper, two lower door trims and two rear lower panel trims done, too last night.

Bonnet was done underside and top side but got a drip off of the gun while finishing the top so will probably need to sort that before calling it done.

HVLP / Devilbiss Verdict :

(Material: Cellulose - still legal for use on cars over 25 years old - AFAIK)

With experience, now, in painting cars in rattle cans AND by a gun my comments are as follows (in case anyone else is considering it . . ):

A gun will get you faster results, possibly more even finish, use less paint and will create less overspray/paint dust (in the air and on the floor).

However.

You will have to play with the gun to get it set up. You'll need a decent compressor, lines, water trap(s) and a gun, obviously - not cheap if you can't borrow it.
Rattlecans are smaller and easier, IMO, to manouervre it tight spaces. Also they're lighter and after 4 hours of wet sanding the last thing you want is to paint a roof, arm out-stretched, with a gun and full pot of paint hanging off of it !!!
Oddly, I also got less drips and runs from rattlecans, too . . . I put the runs down to the cramped environment but the drips from the gun were unforgivable.

Cost of paint . . ? . . . Well it'll take about 35 rattlecans (17.5 litres) to do a 2-door coupe properly and by the time I've finished only 4.5 litres (+ thinners) in cellulose.
We're talking satin black so the rattlecans would be around £90, whereas the paint and thinners cost me £85.

To summarise :

I'll certainly be looking to pick up a HVLP gun over the coming months just in case I need to do this again so, despite my complaints, that's the direction i'll head.
That said there is certainly still a place for rattlecan jobs, IMO . . . I would certainly still consider it if the air equipment simply wasn't at hand.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on August 20, 2012, 11:32:26 am

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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 20, 2012, 12:33:06 pm

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Post by: Fieldy on August 20, 2012, 05:37:02 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on August 20, 2012, 06:42:32 pm

WHERES OUR PICS.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on August 20, 2012, 06:44:51 pm

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 20, 2012, 09:33:54 pm

Firstly let me introduce my tools . . .

Borrowed DeVilbiss (note homemade seal at the back of the nozzle) : (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1092.jpg)

Ray's borrowed Compressor - Small but Mighty : (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1091.jpg)

Re-installing the rear bumper shaper thingy (I had to drill out the rivets but the holes took a M6 thread perfectly !!) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1087.jpg)

My Secondary Paint booth (The whole garden is covered, now !!!) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/banjo.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1090.jpg)

Black !! (with re-installed rear bumper) : (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/diy.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1088.jpg)

Bonnet (both sides) is now done. Lower rocker trims done. Spoiler done. Both Mirrors and gas door done - but not checked properly as it was dark - so who knows !?

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Post by: ianjpage on August 20, 2012, 09:39:42 pm

that colour soooooo suits the car (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 20, 2012, 09:48:48 pm

Can't wait to get the bonnet back on . . . that'll "Do it", I reckon . . . (That's tomorrow's job, BTW, Ian). (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

EDIT - As well as wet sanding the nosecone and chin spoiler. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 21, 2012, 10:14:18 am

Beast!

Great job (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on August 21, 2012, 10:40:11 am

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 21, 2012, 11:01:35 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Can't wait to get the bonnet back on . . . that'll "Do it", I reckon . . . (That's tomorrow's job, BTW, Ian).

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Post by: Titsy on August 21, 2012, 11:05:08 am

Quoting: Incursus

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Hmmmm.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
(http://ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/paint-body-work/129437d1209173032-wanna-see-pics-any-flat-black-camaros-picture-012edit.jpg)

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Post by: Fieldy on August 21, 2012, 03:31:56 pm

Looks good with that shape of car....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 21, 2012, 10:55:15 pm

Bonnet back on this evening but no more painting done. It'll be a major battle to get anymore done at all before the wedding.

That said I hope to some how get the tail gate painted and re fitted and the nose cone and front lower spoiler painted too. Really unlikely, though.

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Post by: Rob on August 21, 2012, 11:11:58 pm

Suits the Camaro more than the Firebird. Just doesn't look quite right....

(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo151/mcnord777/IMG_3313.jpg)

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Post by: FUBAR on August 22, 2012, 04:38:26 pm

Looking Good dean! Very (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Re Robs post above, I think one of the main differences there is the black wheels, it needs some contrast imo.

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Post by: Roadkill on August 23, 2012, 02:07:36 pm

Bit more rubbing down done. Nothing more painted . . . .

Yet. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 23, 2012, 08:33:54 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Bit more rubbing down done. Nothing more painted . . . .

Yet.

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LOL there is always tomorrow and (most of) saturday (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 24, 2012, 01:25:46 am

Nosecone, front splitter and tailgate painted tonight . . . not a clue how it went as it was pitch black by the time I came to do the second coat !!

Really shouldn't've started painting so late, but -

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Will see how it looks when it's light.

If the tailgate's O.K I want to get it on the car today . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 24, 2012, 10:11:24 am

sounds like got most of it done then - although uber late / early post means that must have been an epic evening!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif) that it looks good.

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Post by: art b on August 24, 2012, 01:55:47 pm

hardcore....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Pod on August 24, 2012, 08:47:16 pm

That's looking really impressive so far. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Fancy doing another car? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 24, 2012, 09:57:56 pm

Quoting: Pod

Fancy doing another car?

Yeah - the Caddy's next. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Update . . . .

A little detail that few will notice . . . . .

(I've scraped-off the old - non-working heated element)

It really irritated me . . more than you could believe . . A 10-minute mod that I'm very happy with !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1094.jpg)

The pain-in-the-ar$e to prep and paint rear glass surround ready to go . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1095.jpg)

Tailgate refitted tonight and the "IROC" spoiler installed. (tailgate is propped up)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1108.jpg)

Nosecone and "light bar" re-assembled . . . (it's not being re-fitted yet due to up-coming engine work . . )

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1109.jpg)

On hold, now, for a few days for the Wedding (and while I wait for more paint). (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

EDIT - Doesn't flash photo's just make everything look crap !?

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Post by: Andy on August 25, 2012, 12:12:28 am

Removing that heated screen looks great! And the detail on the surround, I need to do that.

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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 25, 2012, 09:57:50 am

Quoting: Roadkill

(I've scraped-off the old - non-working heated element)

How did you do that without scratching the window? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

EDIT - Doesn't flash photo's just make everything look crap !?

Naw, it looks great, you're a fast worker! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 25, 2012, 10:26:50 am

I'll get some pictures in daylight when she comes back out briefly before the Caddy goes back in the garage tomorrow . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 14, 2012, 10:58:25 am

As is the problem with Cellulose paint . . . It's suffered some "sink" in places.

Not a huge concern (as you have to look for it) but irritating all the same.

It was always the plan (in my mind) to repaint her every few years as satin is a pig to keep looking good . . .

With all the hard work done, future resprays can easily be done in a day as I won't need to fully strip her down or do the shuts, etc . . .

One positive update, though -

Got the rocker covers re-fitted last night (so she's looking a little more normal) . . not much more can be done in the 45 minutes of daylight I have once I get in from work.

have ordered some new roller-pins for the door hinges . . . . need these before I can finish the doors . . .

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Post by: Andy on September 18, 2012, 07:26:36 am

Where do you get your bits from in the states? I know Rock Auto is available but I want a set of ht leads and the shipping alone is looking at twice the price of the leads!

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Post by: Roadkill on September 18, 2012, 08:59:48 am

Anywhere, really. Most of the stuff I buy isn't stock, obviously, so I tend to use Summit and Jegs (whoever is cheapest at the time).

Rock Auto for stock stuff (bear in mind R.A add the tax in advance whereas many others don't - this is good as it'll cost less as you'll get no Parcel Farce charges on top AND you'll get it quicker)

I also use Ebay .com ALOT !

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Post by: Andy on September 18, 2012, 09:10:31 am

So if I order from Rock Auto its best to suck up the insane shipping charges.

What are Summit and Jegs like on shipping times? Do you always get caught with a bill for tax?

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Post by: Roadkill on September 18, 2012, 11:13:48 am

Shipping is generally good. The longest wait - ironically - is the travel through customs this end (which you avoid by paying the tax/duty up front).

I normally get stuff within 2-3 weeks but have got cheaper/smaller stuff (eg £40 or less) within 10 days

I think you get taxed if the cost of the item (inc. P&P) is over £40 or something.

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Post by: Roadkill on September 20, 2012, 03:16:20 pm

Some progress. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Thanks to Ian for assistance. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Got the Lower door hinges taken apart (not fun).

Had to compress the door spring with a valve spring compressor (fiddly), then had to drill-out the roller-bush pins (not fun) to release the spring. Followed by hammering out the hinge pin itself.

I now have the parts to replace the hinge pin and roller-bushes on both sides so both doors should close super smooth when I'm done.

I need to get these back together so I can paint the doors as there's too much risk of damaging fresh paint during the work . . .

Pics to follow . . . t'was very dark when we got finished.

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Post by: Roadkill on September 25, 2012, 10:31:15 pm

What a battle it's been.

Got the back of the doors done without much hassle on Saturday in fine weather .... but that's where it all went to $hit !

Wind, rain, short, dark evenings. Lovely. Not.

Spent a combined 5 hours wet sanding to discover both doors are crap. The finish was poor. Partly because my brother had got bored by then and partly because Upol "beige" just doesn't go on as well as the "grey".

So I laid some more beige on it last night (no choice) and hit them hard again this afternoon. Got a reasonable finish but had no choice but to paint regardless as the gun needs to go back.

End result was 4 coats. Looked O.K. Then the heavens opened and the temperature dropped. Am hoping with the heater out there they dry O.K and don't "bloom".

Will find out tomorrow .....

Pics to follow

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Post by: art b on September 26, 2012, 09:15:40 am

well done on all counts,(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

it looks like you have more determination than all the rest of us put together(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 28, 2012, 11:06:38 am

Stubbornness I'm sure many would call it . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on September 28, 2012, 12:30:51 pm

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Quoting: Roadkill

Stubbornness I'm sure many would call it . . .

Quoting: art b

it looks like you have more determination than all the rest of us put together

I like reading RK's posts, they inspire me to get on with my own projects. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Andy on September 28, 2012, 03:33:17 pm

:mrgreen:

Have you or are you redoing the window weather strip? I can't work out whether its a door card off job or can be done in situ.

I should really start a thread of my own for my car. Seems everyone has one!

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Post by: Roadkill on September 29, 2012, 05:38:45 pm

Quoting: Andy

Have you or are you redoing the window weather strip?

Yes, all of them.

The strip I think you mean is an utter bast@rd. My window didn't go down far enough so I had to take it out to do it !!

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Post by: Andy on September 30, 2012, 07:59:26 am

Quoting: Roadkill

The strip I think you mean is an utter bast@rd. My window didn't go down far enough so I had to take it out to do it !!

Balls. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 30, 2012, 08:31:53 am

Yeah, not easy. They put notches inside the door on the internal fold so you can get to all but 2 of the screws. You may be lucky and your window drop low enough. I still need to order mine so if you do want them let me know and we can share the shipping if you want.

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Post by: Roadkill on September 30, 2012, 09:06:47 am

Some Pics.

This one shows the fate of the back-up prep / paint booth . . . I managed to use parts of this to make one in order to prep and paint the doors . . . !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1117.jpg)

Using a valve spring compressor to dis/re-assemble the sprung-loaded doors hinges.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1427.jpg)

A close-up of one of the re-furb'ed hinges, with the area behind prepped and seam-sealered (which should've been done by my brother).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1429.jpg)

The Frankenstein prep/paint booth (MK 3) . . . Yes, that's a thermometer sticking out the top of one of the doors . . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1431.jpg)

Hinges painted.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1432.jpg)

Drivers door (un-assembled)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1465.jpg)

Passenger door (un-assembled)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1466.jpg)

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Post by: Andy on September 30, 2012, 09:25:54 am

That finish looks the tits! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Sounds a plan if its not too dear, let me know what the final price splitting it would be and i'll let you know. I plan on doing mine in very long stages and as finances allow.

I know at some point I really ought to do the t-top seals which according to most youtube videos is a bitch.

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Post by: Roadkill on September 30, 2012, 09:52:27 am

Speak to Fubar about that. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Big Mouse on September 30, 2012, 06:11:56 pm

Nice work RK, shame the brother didn't do what was expected - but that probably wasn't a surprise was it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 01, 2012, 07:40:32 am

Very nice so far... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/flag.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 01, 2012, 08:56:55 am

More pics to keep you happy. Finally started work on the final bits which need painting. They're prepped and ready for paint.

Also, I wasn't happy with the finish on the nosecone . . . The repairs by my brother were done quite poorly in this area and the guidecoat heavy meaning that we broke-through the primer when wet-flatting. And it showed when it came to painting.

So the nosecone is partly back in primer and it, too, just needs a quick going over and it'll be ready for paint . . . then I'm done painting !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/woohoo.gif)

Anyway . . . none of these pictures are of that stuff . . . . .

With Ian's assistance (and Vicky on Jensen watch) we stripped the old, very battered sides off of the large gazebo.
This gazebo isn't designed to be left up overnight so considering it's been up for getting on for two months these pictures show the extensive bracing and repairs which have been done to keep it standing . . . Just in case you're curious . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Roof cross bracing :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1467.jpg)

Additional side support and repairs :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1468.jpg)

Sides now replaced with scaffolding-grade "tarp" and securely fixed. I should've done this in the first place !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1472.jpg)

Some pics of the (dusty) Camaro while I had the chance . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1469.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1470.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1471.jpg)

The plan is - not that my neighbours know it - is to keep the gazebo up over winter (in its new, tougher format) in order for us to do the engine work in relative comfort and shelter.
The old side panels are now secured across the inside of the gazebo, horizontally, reducing the overall volume inside (but not effecting headroom) . . . this also reduces drafts a lot more and provides an additional, albeit basic, level of insulation.

With the new sides fitted it's actually quite sheltered and pleasant inside !

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Post by: Jo on October 01, 2012, 09:10:06 am

Looking really good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on October 01, 2012, 10:24:20 am

Quoting: Jo

Looking really good

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Big Mouse on October 01, 2012, 06:47:19 pm

Ian had plenty of experience keeping gazebo's up crewing for me (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on October 01, 2012, 08:04:53 pm

Quoting: Big Mouse

Ian had plenty of experience keeping gazebo's up crewing for me

lol yeah with that and MKB gazebos at shows, spose i'm a 'seasoned gazebo pro' now (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: art b on October 01, 2012, 10:23:38 pm

its coming along nicely...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Quoting: Jo

Looking really good

we can tell you dont live in the cul de sac....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 02, 2012, 10:26:01 am

Quoting: art b

we can tell you dont live in the cul de sac....

I was going to ask if the neighbours were getting annoyed that the path has been covered, but then I noticed that it ends right by your drive anyway.

Quoting: Roadkill

With the new sides fitted it's actually quite sheltered and pleasant inside !

This is shaping up to be an awesome driveway restoration (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mechanic2.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 02, 2012, 01:53:55 pm

Yeah, the path is actually part of my driveway so no worries, there.

Out of the 12 houses in the cul-de-sac I get on with 4 of them, I am 1 of them, another 4 are in a different bit so aren't really affected and the other 3 I couldn't give a $hit about !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

They've been pretty good . . . I was dubious at the start but it's actually created some basic communication between two of the neighbours I hadn't really spoken to before.

I'll be happier when the second (little) gazebo comes down as it'll look a lot tidier and I get a parking space back.

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Just need to get the last couple of bits painted before the weather fails entirely !!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Rob on October 10, 2012, 02:27:08 pm

For Sale in MK. I've not seen it about, but interesting....!
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/chevrolet-camaro-berlinetta-3-gen-rat-look-spares-repair-/00/s/MTA3MVgxNjAw/$(KGrHqJHJEkFBjRBmT29BQc(!u2i0g~~60_3.JPG)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/chevrolet-camaro-berlinetta-3-gen-rat-look-spares-or-repair-/271075617356?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f1d5daa4c

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 10, 2012, 04:18:55 pm

That belongs to the guy who bought that crappy bent hood off of me.

I had him on Facebook for a while but lost him in a cull.

Nice guy ... if I had the space ....
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Post by: FUBAR on October 10, 2012, 07:43:03 pm

Quoting: Andy

I know at some point I really ought to do the t-top seals which according to most youtube videos is a bitch.

Quoting: Roadkill

Speak to Fubar about that.

Was an ok, but fiddley job IIRC, and the even with brand new decent seals the front-outside-edge join between the roof panel & the body still leaks slightly.
My advise would be
- Use proper 3m Black rubber weatherstrip adhesive (I still have some tubes spare) this stuff worked really well for me. & use liberally but logically when gluing in the new seals.
- Meticulously clean all of the old rubber glue off, this is long winded & annoying but is essential. this is particularly important in the "used Staple" shaped channels that the weatherstrips run in because if they're like mine they're well glued in. The new seals won't fit properly and will leak if there's any of this left behind.
- Get yourself a small tin of Clear POR-15 & brush it onto everything that the weatherstrips will be covering or will be glued too, or is not visible when re-built.

I also had the luck that when I was changing mine MDM had Brand new original GM Black T-Bar panels in stock so even though mine was not very rusty apart from in 1 small place I swapped it out for one of these.

- If you can find one and its within budget (mine was $180, i don't care if that was too expensive) definately 100% change this as well. If not at the very least remove yours (Carefully, its glued and screwed on), clean it up, de-rust it, re-paint it & POR-15 all the bits that you can't see on this panel and the body.

The last thing you want in a couple of years is to have to take your (now very well glued on) new T-Top seals off because this panel is rusty & is leaking (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on October 10, 2012, 07:50:05 pm

P.s. Camaro looking very cool dean (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) Not seen it since before you started painting it, its all starting to come together isn't it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 11, 2012, 12:09:09 pm

Spent a "spare" hour last night wet-sanding the nosecone (again) and the last couple of bits ready for paint . . . . was going to paint them this evening but it's looking pretty damp outside, atm.

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Post by: Roadkill on October 14, 2012, 08:57:54 pm

F*ck !

Another 2 hours of prep on the nosecone before I was anywhere near happy to paint it.

Not happy. Should've just done it all myself !!!

Still. The nosecone looks a lot better for it - not perfect - but a lot better.

Using a different gun this time, too. A Sealey SG-1 . . . . If the Devilbiss was the revolver than this Sealey was the Shotgun !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/hunter.gif)

It was a pig to use and pulsed regardless of what I did . . . . the shocking thing is, though, the finish was excellent !
Not sure if it just suited me of whether I was just spoilt painting in the daylight for once !!!

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Post by: ianjpage on October 14, 2012, 09:49:30 pm

Ah not good then if you had to do that much more prep!

Least it done and by the sound of it looking good!

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Post by: Roadkill on October 15, 2012, 03:30:37 pm

The final painting done in the back-up paint booth . . . . (now partly taken down).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1487.jpg)

The manky POS paint gun that I borrowed to finish the last bits with.

Apparently my brother had it "soaking for two days" . . . oddly enough the thick crustation inside the pot came off with just a 30-second soak and a wipe around !

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(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1488.jpg)

EDIT -

I really need to replace the top layer of gravel in the front garden !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 16, 2012, 08:26:30 am

The small, $hitty, back-up paint booth is now no more !!

It's in bits in the back of the Mondeo waiting to go to the tip. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

The front garden looks like it's had a million oil changes done on it without a bowl . . . It's pretty Black (and grey and beige . . ) but should settle down with a rake-over and some rain.

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Looks a hell of a lot less pikey, now . . . the big gazebo remains but it's looking fairly tidy these days . . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on October 16, 2012, 10:15:10 am

Quoting: Roadkill

The small, $hitty, back-up paint booth is now no more !!

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Quoting: Roadkill

The front garden looks like it's had a million oil changes done on it without a bowl . . . It's pretty Black (and grey and beige . . ) but should settle down with a rake-over and some rain.

Looks a hell of a lot less pikey, now . . . the big gazebo remains but it's looking fairly tidy these days . . . .

Bet the neighbours are loving it now !

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Post by: Roadkill on October 23, 2012, 03:31:14 pm

Was about to upload some pics then realised I didn't take any ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Made further repairs and some major re-enforcement's to the main gazebo to help get it through the winter.
More bracing (tubes from the old gazebo's) and gaffer tape were the flavour of the day.

It's now solid ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Noticed a cat had been in and made my drivers seat it's bed . . . Was tempted to rig a trap involving electrified 6" nails for it but decided I'd just try and make sure all the gaps are sealed instead.

F*cking cats. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)

Thankfully it just left fur and nothing else on the seat or I would've gone on a feline killing spree Sunday night !

Anyway.

Got a few little bits back on the car (rear lights, gas door) and cleaned up a few other bits ready to fit when I get a minute.

Had a thorough clear-out of all the $hit inside the car and was reminded of a few little bits I still need to buy / make / modify . . . . should give me some easy mini-projects over winter inbetween doing the engine.

Pics to follow . . . . when I've taken them.

Thanks to Ian and Vicky for assistance on Sunday afternoon. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 24, 2012, 03:44:47 pm

Notes:

2x Bulbs for front running lights - EDIT - On order
2x fab panels for interior rocker panel covers - W.I.P
Drawing for door panels (laser cutting)
Carpet(s) - EDIT - W.I.P
~~Door seals . . .~~ - Bought Full kit.
~~2x Power outlet covers.~~ - Mod what I have.

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Post by: ianjpage on October 25, 2012, 08:45:55 pm

going well (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 26, 2012, 08:30:37 am

Dammit !

Forgot to bring the door cards in to measure up ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/homer.gif)

Hope to be picking up the rocker panels cover plates today, though. And the weather striping has been posted (stateside).

Carpet is the next big thing to buy . . . Should hold fire until I know the gazebo is cat-free. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 29, 2012, 01:36:05 pm

Amazing how all the "small stuff" takes up so much time . . . especially when I get about an hour or two per weekend at the moment free if I'm lucky and nothing in the evenings !

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That said I have brought the door cards into work today so I'll start measuring up those to get a .DXF together ready for laser-cutting the new panels (think I'll go ally and spray them with the crinkle paint I used before . . . )

Also had some in-fill panels made for the gaps left by removing the seatbelt reels in the plastic rocker panel covers . . . Watch this space.

Gonna give the car a good hoover-out ready for the new carpet (not ordered yet).
Also intend to wash/scrub all the interior plastic panels so they're ready to go back in when the time comes . . .

Pics :

Side markers re-fitted

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1519.jpg)

Vents cleaned and refitted, strikers refitted.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1522.jpg)

15 minutes well spent (?) cleaning these little plastic bits and their screws

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1521.jpg)

The rear lights re-installed (last weekend's little job)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1520.jpg)

The screws painted for re-fitting the nosecone vents and bracketry for the door mirrors . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1523.jpg)

EDIT -

I'll try to finish the mirror brackets tonight.

Also I rubbed down the rear number plate flap (effort !) and hammerite-blacked that yesterday as well . . . no pictures, though.

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Post by: ianjpage on October 29, 2012, 09:00:47 pm

slowly coming along!

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Post by: Roadkill on October 30, 2012, 02:27:28 pm

Carpet is ordered - am impressed so far as they've contacted me within an hour and asked what side the heel pad should be on.

Of course these cars were available as RHD and seeing as it's for a U.K customer it was an intelligent question.

Have gone for a complete set, passenger and luggage areas, all in black, with no cut-outs so I can make it as tidy as possible around the shifter (about 1" of the floor pan needed to be cut out to fit the T56).

EDIT -

have done the initial DXF take off for the door cards but they need some tweeking before I can offer it up to the doors themselves but is better than I expected for a first attempt.

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Post by: Andy on October 30, 2012, 03:06:22 pm

Were they available in RHD? I thought the Camaro was only ever available as LHD?

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Post by: Incursus on October 30, 2012, 03:51:05 pm

Quoting: Andy

Were they available in RHD? I thought the Camaro was only ever available as LHD?

Probably did an Aussie version?

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Post by: ianjpage on October 30, 2012, 09:34:39 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Carpet is ordered - am impressed so far as they've contacted me within an hour and asked what side the heel pad should be on.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2012, 05:29:29 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

have done the initial DXF take off for the door cards but they need some tweeking before I can offer it up to the doors themselves but is better than I expected for a first attempt.

DXF has been tweeked. Looks good against the door cards but ultimately it needs to look good against the doors themselves so I've printed it out in two halves (it's too big for our A0 printer !!) and carefully stuck them together.

Proper Blue Peter job - even used Pritt Stick !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Ta-dah !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1536.jpg)

EDIT - The slots shown on the print-out won't actually end up on the final piece . . . I think I'll go for ~~2.5mm/3mm~~ EDIT - 1mm Ally and will put some small holes in place of the slots to take plastic rivets or similar.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2012, 05:30:36 pm

Quoting: Andy

Were they available in RHD? I thought the Camaro was only ever available as LHD?

I've seen a "Euro-spec" one before (different lights and mirrors) . . . but can't remember what hand-drive it was.

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Not sure, now . . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on November 07, 2012, 05:25:26 pm

Started rebuilding the doors at the weekend to clear some space - pics to follow.
Been cleaning the lock mechanisms (exciting stuff) and re-oiling them prior to re-fitting.
Next job is to re-fit runners and door glass including the new mirrors.

Then the doors can go back on . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

The new carpet is made and probably on the plane as we speak. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on November 08, 2012, 08:05:07 am

RK - do you plan on entering a drag racing series with this or is it just going to be a rwyb sort of thing?

Just asking as I'm looking at entering something next year.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 08, 2012, 11:45:39 am

No plans as yet . . . If you'd have asked me 3 years ago before the little'un was an issue I would've said probably.

At the moment I'll just be happy to get her finished !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 08, 2012, 03:43:18 pm

Some progress . . . not ground breaking but thesedays any progress is exciting ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Some clean stuff (it's handy having a big bath) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1587.jpg)

Some dirty stuff (that'll be bathed tonight) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1588.jpg)

The rear latch, lock and mechanism re-fitted (number plate will not be re-fitted as I'm hoping to buy a new reg. number and loose the $hitty Irish "ALZ" one it has now) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1586.jpg)

Doors - Mirrors back on, new mirror glass fitted :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1590.jpg)

Doors - Sitting on the (slightly modified) stand built for painting (I recycle, me) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1589.jpg)

Doors - New door rubbers fitted, latches cleaned, greased and re-fitted, too :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1591.jpg)

Need to get the runners and glass in before they're ready to go back on . . . . probably about 6 months at this rate !!!

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Post by: Roadkill on November 08, 2012, 04:26:44 pm

Been working out wheel / tyre sizes and combo's . . . tough stuff.

Think I'm set for :

15x8" A.R.E Outlaw I's on the rear with 255/60 R15's B.F.G's and
15x7" A.R.E Outlaw I's on the front with 225/60 R15's B.F.G's (although that will lower the front of the Camaro a further 6mm !!! so may have to stick with 235/60's) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

About £1100 in wheels and tyres (depending on the choice of front tyres) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 09, 2012, 10:34:26 am

Just brought a glass scratch repair kit off the 'net.

Am dubious, but after fitting all new seals (and sweeps) it seems daft not to try and improve the glass a little . . . ?

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Post by: Roadkill on November 09, 2012, 04:21:19 pm

Cleaned the last of the plastic panels last night . . . will give them a wipe over with "flash dash" before they go back in (after the carpet).

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Have now revised the door card drawing a fourth time after offering the print-out up to the doors themselves.
The new design incorporates a slot for the stock door release handle and all slots and holes have been replaced with 2mm dia "pilot" holes so I can re pilot them close-by if they're a little off, yet it still be tidy.

That said I'm confident that the whole panel is within 1mm tolerance.

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Not thought about a pull handle yet but that'll come after . . . .

I'll also need to form a hole in the drivers side panel to mount the door mirror joystick on.

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Have now put them into production so should see them in plenty of time for my "big push" over the Christmas period . . . .

Also finally called Bauer Millet and ordered the bulbs I needed as they stopped replying to my emails !

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A weekend of little jobs await . . . . . . !

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Post by: Roadkill on November 13, 2012, 02:08:22 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Just brought a glass scratch repair kit off the 'net.

Am dubious, but after fitting all new seals (and sweeps) it seems daft not to try and improve the glass a little . . . ?

This showed up less than 24 hours later . . . . So I thought it's worth a go.

Now it's hard to take a picture of glass but this was one of the worse areas, after a thorough clean but obviously very scratched . . . (those while bits are paint on the rag below the glass)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1597.jpg)

This was the same window after about 30 minutes - the whole panel was done as it'd collected tree sap while being stored outside for a few months.
The compound cleaned the glass like nothing else, removed 90% of the light-to-medium scratches and buffed the heavier ones so - at least - they're a lot less noticeable.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1598.jpg)

The kit was £21.50 +P&P and I'd say that, after doing both side windows, that there was enough to give the front and rear glass a good going over, too, before running out of powder (which you can buy separately).

RK's DIY score : 8.5 / 10

It would've got more but the amount of powder you get did seem a little stingey and although fast to arrive the P&P was quite high.

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Post by: Cunning Plan on November 13, 2012, 02:24:26 pm

You did well there dude, the last glass repair kit I tried, I made more of a mess and added scratches! I ended up buying a new window. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono2.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/boohoo.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 13, 2012, 02:28:54 pm

Update (I'll add pictures later) :

Doors are now 98% complete . . they're re-assembled, glass in, runners in, motors in and fixed, front nosings and rubbers in and fixed ready to go back on the car but just need the rubbers re-gluing in a couple of places, first. The door cards will be left off to allow final adjustment to the window guide and nosings.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1618.jpg)

Both heavy duty solenoids and brackets have been fitted to the doors for the door poppers and aligned with the lock mechanisms. Just need to fit the cables and run the wires . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1619.jpg)

I took the plungers apart that they supply with the kit as they snagged quiet badly . . . I replaced the screws with shouldered bolts, de-burred the ram holes, linished the top (rear) surface and linished the sharp, cut ends of the springs. They were re-assembled with a generous amount of grease and now operate nice and smooooth.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1609.jpg)

Titsy popped over and fitted the last relay and confirmed that the wiring is now complete - albeit I just need to tidy a few bits under the dash and do the wiring later for the poppers.

The new trunk rubber was fitted and the latched adjusted, fixed and gaps checked.
The new latch struts were fitted at one end only (not got the clearance to lift the latch fully and connect the other end yet).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1621.jpg)

Last night I removed the seats and cleared up any rubbish too big to be sucked up by the hoover.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1627.jpg)

I also measured up for the new mini-centre console which will go into production later today.
The handbrake was also removed and stripped down and I pondered its new position and required modifications and bracketry . . . etc.

The carpet is still going through customs so my next jobs are to re-position the handbrake and get the holes in the transmission tunnel sorted.
Then address any protrusions in the floor, tape over boltheads and hoover and wipe down before the carpet can be fitted . . . . I also need to sort the headliner AGAIN !!!

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Good progress, considering the utter lack of free time at the moment.

Thanks to Titsy for popping over and to Ian for assistance and Vicky for Jensen-sitting duties on Saturday and Sunday.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 13, 2012, 03:30:03 pm

Just ordered a sheet of rubber for below the mini centre console and some high temp, spray contact adhesive for the headliner . . . third time lucky. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on November 13, 2012, 10:26:46 pm

fingers crossed it sorts the bloody headlining, if it does i may need some for vicky's camaro as that's really dropping the headlining now!

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Post by: Roadkill on November 17, 2012, 07:02:19 pm

POST ABOVE NOW HAS PICTURES !!!

UPDATE . . .

Mini Project 1 - Relocate Handbrake.

Looks like a happy knob in its original position without the bulky old centre console . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1604.jpg)

Enter some pondering . . . a marker pen and a spare handbrake lever I brought ages ago . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1606.jpg)

My lever with the bracketry cut off and holes added and the second-hand lever cut off to leave the cable stay. Painted, of course.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1623.jpg)

Re-positioned 270mm further forward, lowered and angled down . . . .

Upper, max position :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1625.jpg)

Down position . . . hugs the trans tunnel nice :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1624.jpg)

Took some dimensions (for Andy) to make up some spacers and a connecting rod to join the existing cable to the re-positioned lever.

Mini Project 2 - Rocker cover panels.

The old plastic panels looked crap once the old belt reel cover went so I had some ally panels made up . . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1608.jpg)

Then drilled some holes, broke out the wrinkle paint and fitted them
They stand out from the dark grey but I like that . . . a gentle nod towards a subtle bit of modifying . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1620.jpg)

Mini Project 3 - New Centre Console . . . .

A massive hole to fill around the old shifter location . . . made bigger when I cut a further 1" out to fit the T56 in.

So, make a sketch, take some measurements, create a drawing and send to production (who f*ck it up) . . . .

We start with some neoprene sheet, the Hurst shifter boot and the incorrect panel that needs a little more "caressing" than first anticipated . . . (NOTE marker-pen lines on panel)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1622.jpg)

Test fit 1 - After much finessing :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1628.jpg)

Test fit 2 - Some further linishing and an unwanted "Angle grinder / Leg" union . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1630.jpg)

The centre console was then drilled and was taken inside to receive some wrinkle paint . . . attention turned back to the gaping hole which needed to be filled to stop fumes coming into the car and stop damp ruining the new carpet . . .

Viola. Should do the job and seals the gap lovely . . . although I attend to put some more rivets in tomorrow.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1634.jpg)

Started hoovering the car before remembering there's another biggish hole to fill before fitting the carpet . . . .

Gave up for the night. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Andy on November 17, 2012, 08:06:18 pm

Woohoo! Awesome stuff! Looks ace, the carpets will finish it off a treat.

I've been indulging in youtube viewing, getting ideas.

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Post by: ianjpage on November 17, 2012, 10:30:58 pm

cool looks like a very productive day then!

hows the leg?

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Post by: Roadkill on November 17, 2012, 11:51:33 pm

Leg's good. Was bloody sore at the time but it's not even left a noticeable mark.

Feels fine now. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on November 18, 2012, 10:06:21 am

Loving this build (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

Keep the pictures coming, makes a good read (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/snacking.gif)

How come the number plate flips down? Is that the location of the fuel filler? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on November 18, 2012, 10:29:35 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Leg's good. Was bloody sore at the time but it's not even left a noticeable mark.

Feels fine now.

Cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) lucky then!!

Quoting: Cunning Plan

How come the number plate flips down? Is that the location of the fuel filler?

The key lock to open the boot is behind the plate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Andy on November 18, 2012, 02:23:06 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

The key lock to open the boot is behind the plate

Already realised how handy it is to 'forget' to flip it back up once finished in the boot (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 18, 2012, 09:08:35 pm

Andy - Have a look at this (sorry, bit rushed and not my best work (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Untitled.jpg)

Does that make sense ?

"Female" end on the left with a slot (for the existing cable male end to fit in)
"Male" end on the right with a flat (to slide into the handbrake lever slot).

Don't worry about the accuracy of the taper(s) - It's just to slimline it a bit as it'll be close to the carpet and I don't want it snagging.

Hole centres are the most critical. Drill them if you can, tap them if you want (I can do this np).

Slots and the flat I can do carefully with the grinder if you haven't got access to a mill/VMC.

Do-able ?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on November 19, 2012, 08:35:59 am

Everything's doable!

Just got to see when I'm gonna have time to get it done. Will do my best though.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 19, 2012, 09:07:32 am

Cheers, mate. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on November 19, 2012, 09:30:02 am

How critical is the slot and flat alignment at each end?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 19, 2012, 09:36:00 am

Fairly, but not super critical . . . . There's a bit of play allowed for.

On a side note I just purchased this :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390499117132?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

. . to replace the smashed one I have . . . . I'm quite happy to say that I'm now running out of things that need to be bought !!!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on November 19, 2012, 03:30:28 pm

Ok, turned and machined this in my lunch hour (plus a bit)

Stock 303 20 x 295

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/5A71FC9E-8808-4B92-AFE9-25F17C65D8B7-5684-0000044F885C2E46.jpg)

Only free lathe was the really really shagged Colchester Master, sorry to say but there is a bit of a taper on the 12mm as time was tight I think I got it with .1mm

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/445D278C-802E-4373-A02B-626F9DFDA72F-5684-0000044F92D66A2F.jpg)

I then drilled the holes in one bash to get your critical length, then squared up using the holes in a fixture to machine the slot and flat. Here's where I came a bit unstuck, I don't have a slotting blade for my mandrel that will cut 25mm deep. I've gone to about 17mm, I hope this doesn't cause you too many issues, should be enough of a guide there for a grinder.

Slot end:
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/14F24C82-C148-41C0-BDC5-EFB0185F710B-5684-0000044F9DC13B5D.jpg)

Flat end:(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/CF183040-B9CD-4BF6-9431-DB9798FB2756-5684-0000044FAB1C2BCB.jpg)

Overall:
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/FF39B608-3A2B-4A5B-865D-FEB607F4759B-5684-0000044FB441D50F.jpg)

Ally bits still to be turned (need to find the material really)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 19, 2012, 03:37:40 pm

As the Fonz would say : "Eeeeeeeeeeeyyy" (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

No worries about the slot - I can work with that . . .

If you're stuck with material, the spacers can be stainless, also . . .

PM me your address and I'll get the struts out. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on November 19, 2012, 03:56:15 pm

Quoting: Andy

Ok, turned and machined this in my lunch hour (plus a bit)

Very nice bud, good skills. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

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Post by: Andy on November 19, 2012, 04:25:59 pm

Just polished it up a bit after jizzering it, excuse the finish on the flat, sure it won't matter but it ain't my best (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Cheers CP, I like to think I'm good at something apart from posting rubbish on forums! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on November 20, 2012, 08:02:46 am

Shiny things! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 20, 2012, 01:07:44 pm

Update - to keep things . . err . . . updated . . .

Centre Console Panel - Painted and ready for fitting . . . Second picture shows how it will look with the Hurst Boot fixed in place.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1643.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1644.jpg)

Hole in floor . . . now with more rivets !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1635.jpg)

Dash wiring tidied up a bit . . . (fusebox re-fixed, dead cabled tidied, any loose cables secured, handbrake switch cable re-routed).
Possibly the worlds clearest Third-Gen behind-dashboard view.
(This is it finished - nothing more to go back)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1636.jpg)

Finally, All minor and major holes in the floor addressed. Floor pan swept and hoovered and tape put over any protrusions or potential sharp edges.

Ready for carpet (which is now laid-out in the conservatory de-creasing).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1669.jpg)

EDIT -

Thanks this time to my patient, darling Wifey Sammy - who tolerated me working on the Camaro almost all weekend despite her having it off work and looking after Jensen !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/kiss.gif)

Cheers, Hun.

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Post by: Cunning Plan on November 20, 2012, 02:01:17 pm

How are you so productive latley? Items for sale, project updates all over the forum (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Has someone discovered crack? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Nice tidy wiring. I hope to get the bus wiring as tidy as that!

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Post by: Roadkill on November 20, 2012, 03:28:20 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

How are you so productive latley?

Started putting time in in the evenings and hit it hard over the weekend . . . hope to maintain it up until the new year. Booked a days holiday next Friday which should coincide with finishing the interior and seals to re-install the doors that weekend . . .

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Nice tidy wiring. I hope to get the bus wiring as tidy as that!

In fairness, much of what you see in that picture is how Titsy left it . . . I only mounted the odd box and drilled the occasional hole . . the tidying I did was down the other end of that pic.

The real test will be when I do the Caddy as I'll mainly be responsible for the wiring on that. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on November 20, 2012, 03:54:28 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

when I do the Caddy

Are you redesigning the loom or just remaking the stock one? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 20, 2012, 04:01:32 pm

Mainly remaking the old . . . . with additions for air ride and door poppers . . . and necessary mods for installing the Big Block. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on November 20, 2012, 04:09:44 pm

Awesome (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif)

Edit:

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/hijack.gif)

I won't take up space on your thread, I'll post on my project blog.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on November 21, 2012, 09:48:14 am

Should be getting the two bit turned up at lunch, found a lump of material to use.

You'll have to PM which address you'd like it sent to.

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Post by: Andy on November 21, 2012, 12:22:49 pm

Right, spacers turned, package packed, now sat on dispatch bench awaiting an address...

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/A1FB129D-9E0B-4CF9-83E2-9897F5C224C6-1221-000000CF74EE84A7.jpg)

I call this an over use of the tape known as Duct.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/5C7EEF7A-3D9A-4DF3-90F3-F79D39088C7E-1221-000000CF852366AE.jpg)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 21, 2012, 01:39:16 pm

Cool, cheers, mate.

The carpet's all ready to go in so this weekend's looking good - hopefully they arrive on time. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Address sent via PM. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Andy on November 21, 2012, 01:45:44 pm

Actually, I'm being a bit thick here, my mates playing ice hockey this Friday at MK so I could bring them over then? Save postage at least. Only problem being his game doesn't start til 11:30pm, will be in the area around 10pm though.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 21, 2012, 01:54:44 pm

Yeah, suits me. Wanna get here earlier and I'll buy you a beer at the local ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cheers.gif)

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Post by: Andy on November 21, 2012, 02:10:41 pm

Appreciate the offer but ill be tight on time I reckon. Plus I'm a tee-total (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Kills a couple of birds with one stone though so all good! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 21, 2012, 02:53:32 pm

Fair enough - cuppa tea, then ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

See you Friday then, I'll be about all evening after 8pm, no problem. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Andy on November 21, 2012, 02:59:02 pm

Good stuff ill see if I can make it over early if not looking at around 10ish.

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Post by: F Body on November 21, 2012, 06:42:01 pm

Coming along nicely (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Oh and the 2,000th post on this topic (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 25, 2012, 12:58:21 pm

FYI, There'll be some updates later . . . . some bad, some good.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on November 26, 2012, 03:22:17 pm

Well, as promised a series of mini-updates . . .

Thursday, 22/11 - The Bad.

4.50pm.
Got a call from Sammy telling me to rush home as the gazebo was taking a pounding in the heavy gales . . .
5.15pm.
Get home to find gazebo barely standing.
5.25pm.
Tie the gazebo to Mondeo and try to conduct repairs.
5.40pm.
Gazebo being damaged faster than I can repair it.
6.15pm.
Two major gusts hit the gazebo buckling all six legs and deforming the roof.
6.17pm.
No choice but to rip the gazebo to pieces before it falls in and causes further damage to the Camaro . . . .
8.00pm.
The gazebo is no more.
9.00pm.
Remains of the main canopy used to cover the Camaro as it starts to rain (still in heavy wind).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1671.jpg)

Make arrangements to store the Camaro in the limited space at work . . . . Just need to move it before it fills up with water . . .

Friday, 23/11 - More Bad (but could be worse).

At 10am-ish I find a trailer available until 5pm that day only (but I'm supposed to be at work).
Cue mad panic trying to arrange collection of trailer, loading of Camaro and travel/unloading etc . . . in very limited time.
The unit needs re-organising too, in order to fit her in . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1672.jpg)

Very tired Friday night. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lazy.gif)

Saturday, 24/11 - The Good.

Take all the "small stuff" to the unit and re-organise the space and clear some racking for Camaro stuff.
The space is still a little tight but useable with enough storage space. Good amount of light, no heating, though . . . .

Some actual progress . . . .

Start getting the carpet in . . . Main passenger area rough fitted, luggage area fitted properly and boot plastics begin to go back in. Boot struts now fully fitted and tested (work very well !!!)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1674.jpg)

Fit Handbrake lever using spacers Andy made up for me . . .
Start to re-fit shifter stick.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1676.jpg)

Sunday 25/11 - Can't Complain

Start the day working through a list of "to do's" in the morning, getting stuff together ready for the day.
Get to the unit just after midday.
Get the rest of the boot plastics in and cleaned (they now look pimpin').
Start to move forwards . . . sorting the plastics and carpet as we go . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1677.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1678.jpg)

Before the rear plastics can be finished, the door poppers need to be installed (bad pics because of flash) . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1679.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1680.jpg)

All rear plastics re-fitted and cleaned. Poppers fitted. Plastic seal cover plates fitted and cleaned.

Decided the original orange/yellow side markers didn't look right on a satin black car with blacked-out rear lights :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1683.jpg)

So took a chance and order these (which are only supposed to fit a 85-92 Camaro ?????)
Needless to say, a subtle improvement :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1684.jpg)

Remove bonnet, ready for upcoming engine work . . .

First-fix the centre console (still needs a little sorting) and fit the link-rod Andy made to connect the re-located handbrake to the stock cable (need adjusting but does the job).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1686.jpg)

The plan for this weekend is to re-fit both doors. There's a few little odds-and-sods jobs I can be doing in the evenings, after work, though so we'll see how we go . . .

Thanks to My Dad for assistance on Friday, Ian for assistance Saturday and Sunday and to Sammy's on-going understanding !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I'm generally happy with progress . . . I feel I've gone from seeing the light at the end of the tunnel to actually being able to see what's in the light at the end of said tunnel . . . . . and it's Satin Black. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

EDIT

The Camaro DID sustain minor damage during the death of the gazebo . . . no dents noted but several minor rubs and a few scratches - most minor but one fairly heavy one on the lower edge of the spoiler (which ain't bad as it's an easy place to touch-up without it noticing).

So could've been a lot worse !

And it's nice to have two parking spaces back again !!

And it means I can get to the garage AND get the Caddy out (if I wanted).

I feel like I've let the neighbours down, though . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on November 26, 2012, 09:04:12 pm

Some good progress this w/end, even if the move was, how shall we say - unplanned (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 03, 2012, 02:01:57 pm

Been beavering away on the Camaro in every spare second last week at work - getting little jobs done.

To be honest I can't be bothered to list them all as they were numerous but they centred around getting the interior closer to finished . . . getting little bits made and painted/fitted etc . . . Also painted the cowl area and re-fitted the plastic cover, final fixed the centre console . . etc . . .

Was a busy four days . . . . Not many pictures, though . . . . .

First, the headliner - which was actually finished the weekend before but I forgot to mention it . . . this was third time lucky but the glue seemed much more hardcore so I'm hopeful this time !!!

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1741.jpg)

Next the bonnet pull - which although redundant - is still being re-fitted to keep a certain level of "stock-ness" to the interior . . . plus it saves a hole. The parts were trimmed back and Araldited together, ready for re-installation . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1693.jpg)

The front footwell panels had their carpet piece re-attached and then dyed (using spray-paint and thinners) to match the new black (not dark grey as previous) carpet.
The picture shows one "before" and one "after" . . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1691.jpg)

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Then on to this weekends work - With Ian's assistance (thanks also to my parents and to Vicky for babysitting) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Both doors re-fitted & aligned,
Both lower door plastics re-fitted,
Both lower, rear quarter panel plastics re-fitted,
Door popper wiring installed and tested,
Hood pins adjusted and scratch plates fitted,
Front footwell panels re-fitted,
Handbrake rod guide bracket fitted,
Rear seat belt brackets painted (they protrude through the carpet and I didn't want to cut them off),
Panel made up, painted and fited to the rear boot plastics where the battery is now located to cover the hole cut by previous owner(s) . . .

. . . . . .

All went really good but I did manage to put a hole in the ally fuel line when drilling for the handbrake bracket (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Bloody typical as it only runs along the other side of the car before looping over the transmission tunnel (which is where I put the hole in it !) . . . so that's another job on the list, now !!!

Some pics to summarise the weekend . . . . (taken yesterday).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1737.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1738.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1739.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1740.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1742.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1743.jpg)

And, finally . . . I'm opting not to run any badges on the Camaro (externally) at all except those below (one on the rear bumper, and one each on the lower sill covers) . . . . Here's the first fitted:

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1744.jpg)

Subtly cool, methinks.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on December 03, 2012, 03:18:46 pm

ah the old unit.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
where we worked on her .. how many yrs ago ...?

some great likkle touches there..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

so whats the status on the engine..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on December 03, 2012, 03:27:40 pm

When do you fit the swishy red lights at the front? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/coat.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 03, 2012, 03:50:21 pm

Quoting: art b

ah the old unit.
where we worked on her .. how many yrs ago ...?

A few.
Nice to be back with my old company and I must admit it has been helpful having it there.

Quoting: art b

some great likkle touches there..

That's the plan. I've tried to keep it all as subtle as possible . . . obviously some stuff just ain't subtle at all but where possible I've tried to go low-key.

Quoting: art b

so whats the status on the engine.

All parts are here and ready to go (except a timing cover gasket) . . . I've resisted starting work on it until I've worked through a strict checklist of jobs first - These are mainly interior and body related - In order not to spread myself/ourselves too thinly (I'm sounding wise).

The plan is to finish the interior jobs this week, the body jobs are already done meaning that, after a weekend off (LANing it up) It's full-steam ahead on the motor next week . . .

Quoting: Incursus

When do you fit the swishy red lights at the front?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/slap.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on December 03, 2012, 04:21:46 pm

Really starting to look like a beast (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

Loving the dash! Close-up's please. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on December 03, 2012, 04:41:35 pm

*cough* think your interior light cover is the wrong way round *cough*

Looking awesome!! Looks pretty fierce just as it is without the nose cone, plus those side pipes!

Purely out of interest and to save re-reading the entire thread. Is it running a stock rear end or does it have a trick diff in it?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 03, 2012, 05:16:06 pm

Quoting: Andy

*cough* think your interior light cover is the wrong way round *cough*

You're quite right. But not accidentally.

Quoting: Andy

Purely out of interest and to save re-reading the entire thread. Is it running a stock rear end or does it have a trick diff in it?

3.73 gears,
Auburn Gear LSD (fitted by Webster Racing),
Bearing Cap Support Cover.
Stock Drum Brakes, New shoes and Hardware,
Stainless Lines,
New Cables,
Casing fitted With Relocated LCA brackets,
Finished in Mazda Colorado Red.

(Shortened Torque Arm with Cradle)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Nosecone is currently sat looking at me in my office . . . it's had a few funny looks this afternoon.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Loving the dash! Close-up's please.

Next time she's outside - Promise !

Pictures inside with the flash on look sh!te. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on December 03, 2012, 10:45:24 pm

That does look nice with just that 1 badge on the back (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 06, 2012, 02:01:52 pm

Bugger !

Got the new R/H front turn signal light yesterday to replace my smashed one and offered it up to the older, L/H one . . . It looked so good I decided I couldn't fit it with the old one so went of to find a new L/H housing to get a shiny matching pair . . . .

Ironically, both are discontinued and whereas the R/H ones are available, the L/H ones are NOT.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Gonna have a look to see if I can modify a R/H one to make a L/H but suspect the lens is directional . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on December 06, 2012, 02:15:04 pm

Shirley a bit of spit and polish will have the lens looking clean enough?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 06, 2012, 02:18:35 pm

It's not the lens . . it's the chrome-plating on the plastic housing . . . the old one's dull as dishwater but didn't look that bad until you compared the two !!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on December 06, 2012, 10:26:03 pm

how wierd that the r/h isn't avail....

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 07, 2012, 03:03:57 pm

Spent a bit of time pondering the front light issue . . . gonna try taking the old busted one apart and see what my options are . . .

Anyway. Update.

Not got much done this week but did manage to finish the carpet and all the interior jobs on "the list" (see below) . . .

Charged the battery and started testing bits and bobs . . . Left indicator doesn't work (?). Windows work but the P/S gets stuck (I suspect one of the bolts that replaced the drilled-out rivets is a tad too long - easy fix) . . .

List as at Last Friday :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1694.jpg)

List as of Yesterday.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1750.jpg)

Rear lights (I tinted these 5-and-a-half years ago and don't think I ever actually tested them !!)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1749.jpg)

P.S - I HATE THE NEW PHOTOBUCKET - 4 clicks to get a link !!!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on December 07, 2012, 04:31:16 pm

you can go back to the old foto bucket..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

the one thats not pretending to be fagbook..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 07, 2012, 05:54:27 pm

Quoting: art b

you can go back to the old foto bucket.

Not for long . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) . . I figure I may as well get used to it while I have the choice rather than have it forced on me (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on December 07, 2012, 06:34:50 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

List as at Last Friday :

I just don't know how you can work so fast, especially with a kid etc (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) How do you find time? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif)

You sir, have my respect. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif)

Funny though, as it always encourages me to work harder on the bus. I did 4.5 hours on it today, but I didn't seem to actually accomplish much, nothing finished anyway, lots of moving parts around, writing lists of fixings I'm missing, getting ready to clean up the inside roof for the headlining and crying that my sliding door hinge isn't made anymore and mines broken, etc.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad2.gif)

Question - as you are re-fitting the parts, are you using new fixings? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) If so, where from?

Quoting: Roadkill

I tinted these

Are they going to be bright enough? They look fine there, but I have been behind some tinted lights that are really dull and do not do their job properly. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Knowing you though, I am sure they have been done well (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Once again, great project (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/snacking.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 07, 2012, 11:17:02 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

How do you find time?

I do get help a lot of the time, but It's hard work. I have to literally fit it in whenever . . . sometimes at 6 in the morning before work . . sometimes in my lunch break . . sometimes after work before I go home . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Question - as you are re-fitting the parts, are you using new fixings? If so, where from?

Some new, some old . . . .

The more generic fixings I've generally replaced with metric stainless or metric/UNC/UNF BZ plated. Some of the recent plastic panels have been re-fitted with stainless self-tappers.
The suspension and chassis parts generally came with new fixings (or I bought them from spohn) . . .

I fully intend to replace all fixings on the caddy with stainless ones, though, when it comes to it . . . I'm not a fan of plated fixings . . .

I'd estimate about 60% of the fixings used were new . . . Mainly the engine-related ones and specific ones were re-used . . .

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Are they going to be bright enough?

As you say they look bright enough . . . I'm pretty sure they're brighter than the ones I did for Chris on his Mustang (In fact, I know they are) so they'll be fine.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 17, 2012, 11:30:10 am

Can't remember where I am with this . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Had the weekend off of the 7/8/9 . . . Popped in for a recon run on Saturday.

Stripped the headers, heads, rad, fan, water pump and housing, hoses etc . . . off yesterday.

I'll be stripping the heads at lunchtime ready to drop into be skimmed tonight . . . .

Then I've got a long list of "MUST-DO'S" to do before Friday . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Unlikely, to be honest, as I feel like sh!t and Friday is blown out as it's our second work's do.

Providing there's no issues with the heads I should have them back on Thursday-ish . . . Then they'll need intake-port-matching and re-assembling.

Providing, also, that the massive double-roller chain and sprockets can be encouraged to fit behind the tiny timing cover she should be running (again) before Christmas . . .

I'll take some pictures later . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Thanks to Vicky for Jensen-sitting on Sunday and Ian for the much-needed extra pair of hands on Saturday evening and Sunday.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

EDIT -

I'm currently in the process of designing the monster bracketery arrangement that will take the entire steering rack and (hopefully) connect to the K-Member in a way that Spohn should've done !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

EDIT, EDIT -

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Question - as you are re-fitting the parts, are you using new fixings?

Ironically, I had a very old and used bolt snap in the block yesterday . . . it's gonna be a PITA so it strengthens my opinion of "replace if you can" . . . . As I need to, now ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

EDIT, EDIT, EDIT -

Have sent the main parts of the steering bracket off for laser-cutting in 6mm plate. Hope to have them back this week.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Hehehe. Added a nice little "touch" to the main plate at the front . . . . Let's just say if the Camaro runs anyone over they'll know it's a Chevy.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on December 17, 2012, 10:05:13 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll be stripping the heads at lunchtime ready to drop into be skimmed tonight . . . .

Cool you managed to find somewhere then !

Quoting: Roadkill

Have sent the main parts of the steering bracket off for laser-cutting in 6mm plate. Hope to have them back this week.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 19, 2012, 11:41:35 am

I've noticed that I only tend to get responses on this thread when I post pictures . . . .

So . . .

Tough.

There aren't any.

Yet.

I've been ill . . .

I did drop the heads off for skimming and intake port matching . . was going to get them fully ported but they couldn't guarantee that I'd have them back for Saturday so decided not to.

Also collected the first wave of parts for the monster steering bracket-thingy . . . and collected the ally door cards . . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 19, 2012, 11:48:58 am

Awww, go on.

Because I love you. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/hug.gif)

Here's some pics :

Ally door cards (not offered them up yet but look good . . I've got 4 !!! - My supplier wasn't happy with the scratches on the first lot so had a second lot done F.O.C . . not that any of them cost me any money . . . . ) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1763.jpg)

And the first parts of the steering bracket . . .

(Top: main front brace; Left: R/H bracket with rack tube support; Middle: Tube support plate; Right: L/H bracket)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1764.jpg)

The notch shown in the top of the main plate is for the sump . . . Hopefully that means that

Quoting: Roadkill

Hehehe. Added a nice little "touch" to the main plate at the front . . . . Let's just say if the Camaro runs anyone over they'll know it's a Chevy.

. . Now makes sense. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on December 19, 2012, 12:33:34 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I did drop the heads off for skimming and intake port matching . . was going to get them fully ported but they couldn't guarantee that I'd have them back for Saturday so decided not to.

Fairy nuff - least they should hopefully be back in time then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

Also collected the first wave of parts for the monster steering bracket-thingy . . . and collected the ally door cards . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) you managed to get the cards then - did you drive there or get him to deliver lol

(can't see pics at work - boo - will have to look later)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 19, 2012, 12:37:01 pm

Collected the cards and plates this morning from Baldock services (it's a mid-way point) . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on December 19, 2012, 04:45:42 pm

Interested to see how the door cards look (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on December 19, 2012, 04:56:06 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Collected the cards and plates this morning from Baldock services (it's a mid-way point) . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on December 19, 2012, 09:44:56 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) can see the pics that bracket looks (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/pimp.gif)'in cool!

Looks to be damn sturdy as well!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 21, 2012, 09:42:12 am

Got the hub pulled (harder work with the new key-way !!), Timing cover and Cam sprocket / chain removed, New camshaft and lifters are in. Guide plates and retainer back on.

Need to pull the crank sprocket before test fitting the double roller gears (and, no doubt, start modifying the timing cover).

Should be collecting the Heads tomorrow.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Difficult to take pictures while doing the jobs on your own but here's a few :

Pulling the old Camshaft :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1765.jpg)

Getting it back together . . . :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1766.jpg)

The "To do" list keeps getting bigger . . . ! :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1767.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on December 21, 2012, 11:48:39 am

Quoting: Roadkill

The "To do" list keeps getting bigger . . . ! :

I know that well (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/TutTutSmiley.gif)

Without scrolling back through 63 pages, did you have to do much work on the chassis / repairing rust? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 21, 2012, 12:08:42 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Without scrolling back through 63 pages, did you have to do much work on the chassis / repairing rust?

Dunno. Have a look. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

You want pages 23 & 24. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

No, none repaired . . . none found. That said there's small area that may need attention for the MoT where they've welded the SFC's in and not treated the area properly.

The chassis was very good as was the floor pan.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on December 21, 2012, 12:27:38 pm

Cool got a bit more done then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 23, 2012, 10:44:30 pm

Pictures !

Cloyes Double Roller Gear Set. (Shocking how much slack there was in the stock one !) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1769.jpg)

Unfortunately this mean't making a bit of room behind the timing cover (the gear set isn't designed for a LT1) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1775.jpg)

Still VERY close in there :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1774.jpg)

Got the heads back from being skimmed :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1771.jpg)

They saved me some time and port-matched the intakes . . . not alot of metal in places so in some places it's merely a chamfer (still an improvement, though . . . :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1772.jpg)

Finding ACCURATE T.D.C on an engine with no timing tab and no timing marks is obviously critical when running a carb (thanks GM) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1770.jpg)

Have now got the rad and hoses back in, P/S head and header and started building the valvetrain. Hit a snag with re-fitting the hub and need to chase out the crank thread (didn't have my tap set with me).
Also gave the engine bay a wipe-around as it was bloddy filthy !

Here's the Ma-hoosive 1.7 Rockers perched on the up-rated 7/16" ARP studs. Springs, retainers and collets are Comp Cams.
Push Rods are Heavy Duty Comp Cams to work with the Trick Flow guide plates.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1776.jpg)

You can just about make out the guide plates (not stock for non-Corvette LT1's).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1777.jpg)

Where we left it tonight . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1778.jpg)

Thanks to Ian for assistance (pulling that hub is literally 5 times quicker with two people !!!)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on December 23, 2012, 10:57:25 pm

starting to look more like an engine again!!!

Those rockers are bloody huge and 'proper' meaty as well, should stand up to what gets thrown at em!

Think we need to change the earth strap bolt on the front of the head, looks wrong with a rusty bolt in it now lol!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 23, 2012, 11:05:30 pm

Haha, yeah. I'll have a dig-though - bound to have a new one somewhere !

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on December 24, 2012, 12:48:14 pm

Got to love shiny engine components (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funky.gif)

Looks like it will be a monster of an engine. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Any idea what it should put out? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 24, 2012, 04:44:31 pm

I hate to speculate or bench race.

If everything I've done gets me just a third of what it's supposed to I'll be looking at around 320Bhp . . If everything works like "they" claim it'll be more like 400+Bhp

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

I'm realistic, thankfully. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

The biggest difference I think I'll notice is the torque. The Intake has been proven to massively increase torque and the headers I have will help, too.

A lot of "drains" on power have gone, too, which all help (no P/S, no Water Pump to drive).
The ally flywheel should help make the power available quicker but is unlikely to have any effect on the power figures . . .

The Cam is the biggest I dare run and I only opted for that as I have suitable rear gears and upgraded intake and headers (etc . . ) - Simply dumping in that Cam wouldn't work on its own.

Who knows . . . maybe 400Bhp is achievable . . . but I won't loose any sleep if I don't get there.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Also, C.P, Note the shiny new bolts on the water pump housing. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on December 29, 2012, 02:05:11 pm

Some pictures from yesterday . . .

Hub issue "sorted" and both heads and headers now back on . . .

Also got the intake back on but no pics of that.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1794.jpg)

A close up showing the guide plates without the rockers hiding them.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1793.jpg)

We're just about to prime the engine before re-fitting the dizzy ready for a TEST FIRE !!!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

or

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

. . . Depending how it goes . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on December 29, 2012, 03:55:01 pm

Good Luck!

Without going through miiillllions of pages, can you tell me where you got the rad from? Was it states or over here?

Need a new one in mine (burst the day after I got my Focus back) so either looking at getting it reconditioned or a new one. Can pick one up from RockAuto for £50~ but shipping is £70 on top! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on December 29, 2012, 10:00:40 pm

well today was (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif) and (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) and a bit of (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) but i'll let dean explain lol!

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Post by: Roadkill on December 30, 2012, 12:55:32 am

Andy,
Mine was new. Brought it from Bauer Millet over here but got it relatively cheap as it was old stock.
Price sounds good from Rock Auto to be honest but have a look out for breakers ..... I had my Camaro's old one laying around for literally years. Can't remember whether I binned it or 99p'ed it on eBay.

EDIT.

I remember now, I did bin it. I remember cutting it up.

Silly as it was perfect but no one wanted it so -

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Post by: Roadkill on December 30, 2012, 01:08:12 pm

Some pictures from yesterday . . . .

Action shot ! - Priming the oil system :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1796.jpg)

Intake on - basically back together . . . :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1797.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1798.jpg)

Minor snag with the Rocker covers . . Did I say that the new Rockers are MAHOOOSIVE ? - Well they need more room than my covers had.

Before :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1799.jpg)

After :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1800.jpg)

Last picture was taken this morning - just before test fire number 2 :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1801.jpg)

We've sorted some minor issues with the rear lights out and re-connected the exhausts this morning.

Video coming up . . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on December 30, 2012, 01:12:19 pm

Just need to time and tune her . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/th_VIDEO0136.jpg)

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Post by: Titsy on December 31, 2012, 12:54:51 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Do you want me to sort that lambda meter I've git under my desk at work?

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Post by: Roadkill on December 31, 2012, 01:40:01 pm

Got some other immediate issues first . . . The water pump stopped working (could be low voltage) . . . and the battery may not be being charged from the alternator . . ?

Also the oil pressure was reading zero (after it had been fine) so there may be a gremlin in there somewhere (either that or we cooked something).

I'll slow-charge the battery and then re-test the water pump. Then turn her over and re-check the oil pressure gauge.

Good news is that she was sitting happy at 700RPM before I noticed the temperature start to climb and shut her off.

I'd say she was about 85% there timing and (carb) tuning wise.

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Post by: Roadkill on December 31, 2012, 02:15:30 pm

A couple of shots from yesterday evening . . . Thanks to Ian for assistance over the last few days.

Thanks to Vicky and Samantha for their continuing understanding and patience !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/hug.gif)

Nosecone generally back on . . . still need to fit the chin spoiler so she looks a bit odd at the moment.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1803_zps45276657.jpg)

Tested the front lights and fitted the new front running light (R/H) . . . I managed to modify the old one so it'd fit on the L/H so will be ordering another NEW R/H one as my existing R/H light is dull and manky !

New slam panel is loose-fitted at the moment until we can get the hood back on and fine-adjust the nosecone position at the hood's leading edge.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1804_zps2581c75e.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1805_zps3fc7b562.jpg)

That's it for a few days.

I'll charge the battery when I get back into work and start removing the old steering bracketry so I can start test-fitting the new arrangement.

Have got some ideas on improving the exhaust looks and arrangement, too . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

. . . Also thinking of designing a tower brace as none of the "off the shelf" ones are designed for the set-up I have.

Laser-cutting FTW !!!

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Post by: ianjpage on December 31, 2012, 02:51:19 pm

looks so much better with the nose back on now, and was soo nice after all the time that has passed to (finally) hear her fire and idle without any real issue!

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Post by: art b on December 31, 2012, 03:50:43 pm

lots of great work well done guys..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 02, 2013, 11:08:29 am

Have ordered the other front running light from the states and am investigating the "correct" timing . . . .

Do we have a "minefield" smiley. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on January 02, 2013, 11:18:33 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Do we have a "minefield" smiley

well we have this one (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grenade.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 02, 2013, 02:21:10 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

and am investigating the "correct" timing . . . .

Apparently ignore the vacuum entirely is the vibe I get - just bung it and forget it while timing.

36* advance, total all in @2,500RPM.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Think I need to check if I am indeed all in @2,500RPM. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I think we were aiming for more like 6* Initial, 20-something total.

Ian - do you remember what we were going for ??? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on January 02, 2013, 06:11:41 pm

Looking very (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on January 02, 2013, 08:39:05 pm

Wow awesome work!

Who's lockup is that? Works? You must have an awesome boss! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

What are the two contaners above the wheel-arches? Coolant and screenwash?(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 02, 2013, 09:09:45 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Have ordered the other front running light from the states and am investigating the "correct" timing . . . .

Do we have a "minefield" smiley.

Cool not long before she's all "lit" up then hehe

Quoting: Roadkill

Apparently ignore the vacuum entirely is the vibe I get - just bung it and forget it while timing.

36* advance, total all in @2,500RPM.

Think I need to check if I am indeed all in @2,500RPM.

I think we were aiming for more like 6* Initial, 20-something total.

Ian - do you remember what we were going for ???

Hmm interesting, specially the difference it made, then didn't make when we had it off / on!

36* - wow that was more that we were going for - we were aiming for about 4-6* @ idle and yeah about 20-25 i think at 2500, which we wern't far off i think...

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Who's lockup is that? Works?

Roger 1

Quoting: Cunning Plan

What are the two contaners above the wheel-arches? Coolant and screenwash?

Roger 2

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Post by: Andy on January 02, 2013, 09:45:26 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

What are the two contaners above the wheel-arches? Coolant and screenwash?

Something that makes me smile, I reckon the guy that designed these bays like symmetry, the coolant bottle is about 50 times bigger than is needed and the screenwash bottle takes a good 5 litres to fill!

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Post by: Roadkill on January 03, 2013, 11:09:58 am

UPDATE -

Re-fitted the lower chin spoiler last night . . Plan to fit the air dam tonight.

Been charging up the battery to check the water pump . . . It's working fine (as is the tach and oil pressure seems good also) so I'm assuming the funny readings I was getting was due to low voltage ????

Dunno.

When we fire her up to re-time her we'll have to bring out the multimeter and see what's going on . . .

Quoting: ianjpage

Hmm interesting, specially the difference it made, then didn't make when we had it off / on!

That's the thing. Vacuum only really makes a difference at idle - which is why the idea of ignoring it seems sensible as you're more interested in what's going on beyond idle/low revs.

I think we need to slowly run her up to 3000RPM to find out when the Mechanical advance is "all in" (should be around 2400RPM I think.
If this is the case we'll set the timing at 2500RPM and then see where idle sits after.

If we're not all in by 2500RPM then I may need to look at different weights . . .

The frustrating thing is, ironically, with all the new stuff that's been put on the engine the dizzy is the ONLY piece that I re-used from the origianl 305ci small block. And that came with the car so I don't know the make or the age of it . . . only that it's aftermarket and it works.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Quoting: Andy

I reckon the guy that designed these bays like symmetry

I know. I brought new tanks as they're so prominent. Was well worthwhile.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Who's lockup is that? Works? You must have an awesome boss!

Yeah, they're helpful. My MD doesn't care either way but my Director does complain a little.
I can't moan, though. It's helped out no end and the rate of progress has been second-to-none over the last few weeks - even with the snags we've encountered.

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Post by: Jamieg285 on January 03, 2013, 12:28:01 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Before you start, make sure it's all clean and the weights move freely. I'd look at the springs before changing the weights, as these will affect how soon/late the weights open up. There's 3 pairs of springs in a kit and you can mix them as well to get extra combos.

Ideally you set total timing as you say (although I would expect to be looking higher - say 32-34) all in by 2.5K. The actual figure will be what the engine likes best, not a pre-prescribed figure. I'd look into this more if I were you, as the figures are quite a bit different.

Then look to get an adjustable vac-advance can to sort out the timing you want at idle.

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Post by: Titsy on January 03, 2013, 12:29:33 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Been charging up the battery to check the water pump . . . It's working fine (as is the tach and oil pressure seems good also) so I'm assuming the funny readings I was getting was due to low voltage ????

My suspicion is that the alternator isn't spinning fast enough at idle to charge the battery... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 03, 2013, 12:30:32 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

UPDATE -

Re-fitted the lower chin spoiler last night . . Plan to fit the air dam tonight.

Cool, prob looks a lot more like it's old self now then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

Hmm very odd but good that they are working now - must have been the draw of current / voltage on the battery when it got so low it couldn't hack it!

Quoting: Roadkill

When we fire her up to re-time her we'll have to bring out the multimeter and see what's going on . . .

Yeah be intersting but having a chat to titsy on new year after you left and we both of the opinion that sitting it idle to tune it for so long wasn't turning the alt. fast enough to generate a good charge, so hopefully at rev's it should be OK but then just have to be careful when idling as may not create enough charge.

Quoting: Roadkill

Sounds a sensible plan, and as you say if the bit yer worried about is at throttle, not idle, then time it there (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 03, 2013, 12:31:05 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Quoting: Roadkill
Been charging up the battery to check the water pump . . . It's working fine (as is the tach and oil pressure seems good also) so I'm assuming the funny readings I was getting was due to low voltage ????

My suspicion is that the alternator isn't spinning fast enough at idle to charge the battery...

Dang you beat me to it by seconds lol

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Post by: Titsy on January 03, 2013, 12:35:56 pm

Seconds... Pahh, it was almost a full minute! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 03, 2013, 12:54:19 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Seconds... Pahh, it was almost a full minute!

i just said seconds, i didn't say how many hehehe :p

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Post by: Roadkill on January 03, 2013, 01:02:06 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Then look to get an adjustable vac-advance can to sort out the timing you want at idle.

Good idea.

Need to find out what make/model it is, really. I've looked before but don't remember seeing any P/N's on it . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Quoting: Titsy

My suspicion is that the alternator isn't spinning fast enough at idle to charge the battery...

We can check this with a multimeter, can't we ?

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Post by: Andy on January 03, 2013, 01:04:56 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I know. I brought new tanks as they're so prominent. Was well worthwhile.

Ah right, in which case, how to you remove the coolant one? Theres one lower bolt that you can remove, but it seems to held further up the wheel arch. Before I go at it with a crow bar and brute force, is there another bolt somewhere I'm missing?

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Post by: Roadkill on January 03, 2013, 02:01:46 pm

Yeah, on mine there's one at the back, too on a little tab just down from the top. From memory they're held in with black plastic screw-rivet thingy's.
You should be able to see them clearly from underneath with the arch liners out.

(EDIT - You can make it out on the picture directly above)

That said you can see mine easily . . I can't remember what used to be there to obscure the view . . .

I had the room and replaced them with M6 stainless bolts and nyloks.

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Post by: ianjpage on January 03, 2013, 10:31:54 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: Titsy
My suspicion is that the alternator isn't spinning fast enough at idle to charge the battery...

We can check this with a multimeter, can't we ?

yup

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Post by: Andy on January 03, 2013, 11:07:17 pm

I guess you're running a single wire alternator with an external voltage regulator?

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Post by: Roadkill on January 04, 2013, 09:28:09 am

No. Or not as far as I know. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

It's a standard Delco jobbie from memory.

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Post by: Roadkill on January 04, 2013, 01:58:42 pm

Voltage on the gauge at idle with choke (900RPM) = 10.4V

Voltage on the gauge at anything up to 4000RPM = 10.4V

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

In other words engine speed isn't affecting the output of the alternator ???????

EDIT - Some pictures from lunchtime . . .

Nosecone, Chin and Air Dam fitted. (C.P - Note the new fixings on the nosecone. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) )

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1813_zps2304e17d.jpg)

Front view is looking a lot more normal with the lower chin on . . . still looks a bit funny being so far up in the air . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1814_zps89dbf6bb.jpg)

Next job is to remove the steering rack and start cutting the old brackets off so I can measure-up properly to fabricate and fit the new ones . . .
I'll do a little bit of this this evening, then hopefully we can spend a hour or so getting the timing sorted and figure out what's going on with the alternator over the weekend at some point . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on January 04, 2013, 03:24:50 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Voltage on the gauge at idle with choke (900RPM) = 10.4V

Voltage on the gauge at anything up to 4000RPM = 10.4V

Hmm that's not good - should be nearly 14v i think when revving...something not right there....

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Post by: Andy on January 04, 2013, 05:06:37 pm

Just been through the whole alternator saga with mine.

In theory the voltage should have a little fluctuation between idle and being revved, but either way it should be north of 13v at idle. This really is the least for the battery to be getting any chance of being recharged. Do also bare in mind at idle an alternator barely makes enough current to recharge the batter with any accessories running.

If you're getting 10.4V I would say that the alternator is almost definitely kaput or if it is the original Delco unit, is not being feed a decent reference or exciter voltage.

Do you have a multiplug connected to the unit? If its the same set up as mine I can write down the fault finding procedure I did on mine.

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Post by: Roadkill on January 04, 2013, 05:29:44 pm

Quoting: Andy

with any accessories running

I don't have any accessories. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

I've just pulled the paperwork on the alternator . . . apparently it's a "Load Boss" CS 130 GM alternator.

I brought it from eBay (US) as a refurbished unit . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

The seller is still on Ebay but doesn't sell these units anymore (or at the moment).

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Post by: Andy on January 04, 2013, 06:04:43 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I've just pulled the paperwork on the alternator . . . apparently it's a "Load Boss" CS 130 GM alternator.

I got a link to a service manual for that here somewhere...

http://alternatorparts.com/cs130_sbpage1.htm

It also means its the same as mine. In which case you maybe looking at a duff rectifier or an insufficient exciter charge.

Are you good with a multimeter for testing it? It is easily accessible? Can't see it in any of the engine bay photos (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

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Post by: Andy on January 04, 2013, 06:08:47 pm

Also, that 10.4v might be a false promise, if you're reading that off the battery then the alternator may actually not be putting anything out at all. The only way to tell if the alternator is outputting anything is by disconnecting the output lead but keeping the multiplug connected. Then measure the output post to the engine block or negative terminal.

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Post by: Roadkill on January 04, 2013, 06:30:15 pm

Quoting: Andy

Are you good with a multimeter for testing it?

No, crap. But I know a man/some men who can. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: Andy

It is easily accessible?

Oh, yes. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Andy

Can't see it in any of the engine bay photos

It's on a re-positioned bracket, slung low. But shed loads of room ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Andy

Also, that 10.4v might be a false promise, if you're reading that off the battery then the alternator may actually not be putting anything out at all.

Believe it or not I had actually thought of that and even partly assumed that - based on my limited knowledge. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quoting: Andy

The only way to tell if the alternator is outputting anything . . . . . .

Will check, ASAP. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

ON A SEPARATE NOTE :

Steering bracketry is off the K-Member . .. didn't need cutting . . . a few clouts with a nylon mallet and they broke of leaving very little behind . . . a quick buzz with a linishing disc and it'll be as good as new.

Not sure if that's a good thing or not . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

It looked like we were getting good penetration but clearly not. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on January 04, 2013, 07:44:44 pm

huh huh you said penetration huh huh (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 04, 2013, 10:05:11 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Steering bracketry is off the K-Member . .. didn't need cutting . . . a few clouts with a nylon mallet and they broke of leaving very little behind . . . a quick buzz with a linishing disc and it'll be as good as new.

Not sure if that's a good thing or not . . .

It looked like we were getting good penetration but clearly not.

oh that's good for the replacement purpose but not for fixing purpose, obviously wasn't penetrating deep enough (yes i know pun city!)

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Post by: Titsy on January 05, 2013, 11:48:03 am

Quoting: Roadkill

No, crap. But I know a man/some men who can.

Stick it on the 20v range, put the black on the earth bond of the alternator and the red on the main alternator terminal and see what you get...

You should be seeing about 13.8-14.4v when running. If it's a little low try reving it to 2k rpm and see if it picks up. If it's lower than that there is probably an issue... If it's ok at the alternator but low up stream there is probably a corroded terminal or loose connection somewhere.

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Post by: Andy on January 06, 2013, 12:26:12 am

Quoting: Titsy

Stick it on the 20v range, put the black on the earth bond of the alternator and the red on the main alternator terminal and see what you get...

Do this, but without the main alternator output cable connected otherwise you'll still be measuring battery voltage in circuit.

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Post by: Roadkill on January 06, 2013, 03:45:23 pm

We got :

Initial timing 13-14 degrees @ 700 RPM - seems happy.

With Mech advance 33 degrees @ 2500 RPM - seems happy.

Got up to 60 degrees with Vacuum re-connected @ 2500-3000 RPM (seems high and did pop and bang a little bit on throttle release ??)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 06, 2013, 09:01:45 pm

Quoting: Andy

Quoting: Titsy
Stick it on the 20v range, put the black on the earth bond of the alternator and the red on the main alternator terminal and see what you get...

Do this, but without the main alternator output cable connected otherwise you'll still be measuring battery voltage in circuit.

Did some testing todya - looks like no output as whatever we were reading @ battery, was the same on the alt terminals, irrespective of rev's.

Didn't get round to disconnecting main terminal (mainly cos it's a PITA!) but unplugged the multi plug and again no difference

Started @ 11.4 v this morning (battery & alt) then by end of day when car wouldn't then turn over was 10.3v, so defo not charging.

Would it be worth a pull apart and try to diagnose the fault or not?

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Post by: Andy on January 06, 2013, 09:43:02 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

For the alternator to work the multiplug has to be connected due to it supplying the exciter voltage. Without this the alternator won't work.

The next step would be to check the multiplug for a voltage on either of the terminals. I can't remember which one it is exactly but my plug had two wires, one thinner than the other. The thicker one should be supplying an 'accessories on' voltage of around 12-13v, this is the exciter voltage required for the alternator to make an output.

If when you check with the accessories on you find you have a voltage then it likely the alternator is duff, and you are in the same boat as I was a couple of months ago. In which case I'd recommend Real Steel in Uxbridge who next day'd me a brand new unit for just shy of £90.

If you don't have a voltage with the accessories at the multiplug, then you may be looking for problems further up the wiring chain.

Just so you know, it sounds exactly the same as the problems I had with mine, the only difference is I thought getting my alternator refurbished would be easier but it wasn't.

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Post by: ianjpage on January 06, 2013, 10:08:16 pm

Quoting: Andy

For the alternator to work the multiplug has to be connected due to it supplying the exciter voltage. Without this the alternator won't work.

Yeah thought as much hence checking with & without!

Quoting: Andy

The next step would be to check the multiplug for a voltage on either of the terminals. I can't remember which one it is exactly but my plug had two wires, one thinner than the other. The thicker one should be supplying an 'accessories on' voltage of around 12-13v, this is the exciter voltage required for the alternator to make an output.

Hmm dean's only got 1 wire on his...

Quoting: Andy

If when you check with the accessories on you find you have a voltage then it likely the alternator is duff, and you are in the same boat as I was a couple of months ago. In which case I'd recommend Real Steel in Uxbridge who next day'd me a brand new unit for just shy of £90.

It was running with pump, fan, fuel etc all running BUT the wiring has been totally redone so not sure if this would still be applicable (TISTY??)

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Post by: Titsy on January 06, 2013, 11:50:54 pm

If I remember rightly and you've used an alternator for the LT1 then the main terminal is all that's required for the generated output and all regulation is internal. the plug on connector only has one with which is for the electrical warning light...

EDIT

found this: http://shbox.com/1/starter_charging_95.jpg

So if you short the plug on cable to ground (do this through a fuse) it should blink the generator light on the dash. There's nothing else to get wrong really assuming you selected the right alternator when you replaced it.

I presume you don't have to original from the donor to swap in? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Andy on January 07, 2013, 07:00:42 am

Quoting: Titsy

Yeah, I'll agree with that. I think that means if you have got a CS130 alternator like the one fitted to 3rd gens with engine codes E and F you won't have the correct wiring for it.

Check here on page S3/37 - I don't know the engine that well but you may be able to cross reference it to one on there? http://realsteel.co.uk/section3b.pdf

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Post by: Roadkill on January 07, 2013, 11:45:15 am

Quoting: Titsy

and you've used an alternator for the LT1

No, it's a CS 130 - Smaller type to allow me to mount it low on the new brackets.

Quoting: Titsy

I presume you don't have to original from the donor to swap in?

No. Long gone. Not even sure I ever had it.

UPDATE -

As mentioned above - we had a play with the timing and actually got it running WORSE !!!

It took quite a bit of playing to get it where it seemed happy but this isn't 100% where I'd expect it to be . . Jaime - any ideas ????

Quoting: Roadkill

Initial timing 13-14 degrees @ 700 RPM - seems happy.

With Mech advance 33 degrees @ 2500 RPM - seems happy.

Got up to 60 degrees with Vacuum re-connected @ 2500-3000 RPM (seems high and did pop and bang a little bit on throttle release ??)

Am intending on replacing the dizzy/cap/arm eventually (not yet, though) as it's the only real unknown.
For $200 I can get a Moroso with adjustable vacuum advance, new cap and new arm . . . more money but at least it'll give me some control - the dizzy comes with different springs so mechanical advance as well as vacuum can be fine tuned.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

We got the new slam panel fixed (but I think I'm gonna replace the fixings with new ones as the old are a bit manky) . . .

Had to drop the hood on to check the lines as the nose meets the bonnet so thought I'd get some pics.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1816_zpsc7f57a79.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1817_zpsb192f90d.jpg)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Bonnet's back off again to let some light in while I ponder the steering bracket issues . . . . . .

Also. The list. Looks good but need to add a few soon . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1818_zps381726b9.jpg)

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Post by: Incursus on January 07, 2013, 12:11:33 pm

Looking the dogs danglies (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Andy on January 07, 2013, 12:33:38 pm

I guess it's a question of whether the wiring harness in the car is suitable for the alternator?

Did the wiring come with the engine?

I think the cs130 is fitted to most sbc but if the wiring diagram posted by Titsy above is the same as the one in your engine bay, then it won't work unless you supply the correct feeds to the correct pin outs.

So at best guess, two options are fitting a correct alternator (real steel link above should have one you need) or fashioning up your own bit of wiring to supply an acc on 12v feed to it.

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Post by: Jamieg285 on January 07, 2013, 12:36:48 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

As mentioned above - we had a play with the timing and actually got it running WORSE !!!

It took quite a bit of playing to get it where it seemed happy but this isn't 100% where I'd expect it to be . . Jaime - any ideas ????

Quoting: Roadkill
Initial timing 13-14 degrees @ 700 RPM - seems happy.

With Mech advance 33 degrees @ 2500 RPM - seems happy.

Got up to 60 degrees with Vacuum re-connected @ 2500-3000 RPM (seems high and did pop and bang a little bit on throttle release ??)

60 is definitely too high.

I'd expect the vacuum to drop as you rev it, so that as the mechanical kicks in, vac-advance drops keeping it around the same sort of 30-40 level (I do not confess to be an expert on the actual figures though). I believe that the faster the engine speed the more advance you need.

When you set timing with the vac disconnected - did you plug the pipe to prevent a vac leak?

Do you have a vacuum gauge? What readings are you getting from the pipe connecting to the vac-can, at idle and up to the 3K revs?

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Post by: Titsy on January 07, 2013, 12:45:54 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

No, it's a CS 130 - Smaller type to allow me to mount it low on the new brackets.

Ok so now I know what's wrong... you need to trace the red plugin wire away from the alternator as far as possible so that when cut it is long enough to wire into the red junction on the bulkhead.

This won't give you a charging warning light on the dash as you would need a different pigtail, but if you get the right pigtail the loose end of the cut wire should be left so that the warning light could be attached to it.

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Post by: ianjpage on January 07, 2013, 02:59:28 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Quoting: Roadkill
No, it's a CS 130 - Smaller type to allow me to mount it low on the new brackets.

Ok so now I know what's wrong... you need to trace the red plugin wire away from the alternator as far as possible so that when cut it is long enough to wire into the red junction on the bulkhead.

This won't give you a charging warning light on the dash as you would need a different pigtail, but if you get the right pigtail the loose end of the cut wire should be left so that the warning light could be attached to it.

OK so the red "live" terminal inside teh lil black box ?

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Post by: Andy on January 07, 2013, 03:57:38 pm

I never posted these on my thread when I was going through the stages but they might be useful here.

This is a photo of the plug fitted to my CS130, its a 4 pin plug but only two of the pins do anything. This alternator will not work with out the plug inserted.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/C6464887-429B-4AD4-AF09-154ED3E5DB3B-31433-000003BBD0B33AF8.jpg)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/D8436FB4-D954-4E39-92FF-D03D5F53DFBC-31433-000003BBC573AB4F.jpg)

The thicker cable I am almost 100% sure is the acc on live feed. This comes from the fuse board or similar area but has a resistor in series to lower the voltage from exact battery voltage.

Here is a video of me testing my 'refurb'd' Unit. I was going to use this as evidence in case they kicked up a fuss about it working for them.

This shows it mounted, with the multiplug connected, but the main battery terminal disconnected (and the cable taped up as it is effectively a live cable)

You then see me showing the battery voltage, to prove I was at least running a charged battery. I then connected my second volt meter to the output terminal. This is measuring the alternators 'output' across itself using the casing as a ground.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/th_CE25CC36-F9B6-4678-8D2C-CB50100FB49C-31433-000003BBAE95BA3E.jpg)

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Post by: Titsy on January 07, 2013, 04:17:01 pm

The red wire labelled 'S' is the sense wire for the regulator. This is so that any volt drop to the distribution block is accounted for.

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Post by: ianjpage on January 07, 2013, 09:28:59 pm

@andy - dean's connector has 1 thin red wire... plus am sure the conn. is different to that as well, could be wrong tho

@titsy - erm can i have that sentance with teh missing words please (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 07, 2013, 10:32:06 pm

Jamie.

A guy on thirdgen.org reckoned 36 degrees mechanical all in at 2500 RPM, then said 52 degrees max with vacuum. Or at least that's what I think if said. He typed in text speak.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

He's the only one to respond to my thread ...

I don't have a vacuum gauge, no.

A sensible purchase maybe, though.

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Post by: Titsy on January 07, 2013, 10:49:02 pm

I can get you the PCM timing table for the LT1 once I manage to dig out my old laptop with the tuning program on... If that's any help (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I'd guess you'd want less advance than that shows though as your compression is likely to be up a bit after a skim and helping it breath...

Might be worth checking your compression so you know what your playing with...

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Post by: Andy on January 07, 2013, 10:56:05 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

@andy - dean's connector has 1 thin red wire... plus am sure the conn. is different to that as well, could be wrong tho

Ah i see, thats what I was trying to ask this morning, whether the wiring loom is for the alternator fitted to an LT1 or if it is one for a CS130. The LT1 according to that diagram Titsy posted has a different internal wiring, compared to the CS130 Dean has fitted.

This is apparently the small plug connected to an LT1 Alternator:

(http://shbox.com/ci/ci417.jpg)

Now if this is what is fitted on the loom, simply hooking it up to a 12v feed won't cure the problem, you'll have to shift over which pin it connects to, making it the 'S' terminal instead.

If you two are able to get at the plug, one way to see if you can get the alternator working is by getting a fairly chunky bit of cable connected to the positive battery terminal, have in series a 500 ohm resistor, then disconnect the multiplug and connect that to the 'S' terminal. This should induce the alternator to output a voltage. All you'll need to do is then wire this up properly.

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Post by: Andy on January 07, 2013, 11:02:26 pm

Just to add...
(http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/conversions-hybrids/138237d1214961387-finally-figured-out-alternator-wiring-cs144-alt.jpg)

(http://image.carcraft.com/f/techarticles/ccrp_1109_alternator_picks_and_tricks_junkyard_builder/33127453++w750+ar1/ccrp-1109-alternator-picks-and-tricks-junkyard-builder-005.jpg)

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Post by: Jamieg285 on January 08, 2013, 01:03:18 pm

Done a bit more reading...

You may need to rev a bit higher when checking your total timing - It may be that you're not all in a 2.5K. Slowly take it up to 3.5K - you'll get to a point where it stops increasing.

13-14 sounds a bit high for initial - most recommendations are 8-12.

Vac advance does vary (because the vac pull varies as the engine does different things), but will still add when cruising, in which case a combined total of ~50-55 can be expected.

Are you using a ported or full vacuum for the vac-advance? I'd expect you to be using timed with a manual transmission.

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Post by: Roadkill on January 08, 2013, 03:42:56 pm

I read that an initial at below 10 can be hard to achieve with a bigger cam . . . my cam is fairly big and she didn't seem happy idling below 13.

I couldn't get the idle down to 700RPM at 10 degrees - she needed more like 900-1000 RPM to keep her ticking over.

That said I'm happy to keep fine tuning, obviously.

Either way with vacuum it seems way too high.

I'm guessing something like this : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290783770609?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 is what I need to test the vacuum.

I've seen more expensive ones about but this should do the job shouldn't it ??

EDIT - I'm using Ported Vacuum . . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on January 08, 2013, 09:56:37 pm

@andy - ok will have to give that a try, although may need to use the +ve terminal on the alt as the battery is in the boot, although i think there maybe a live connector on the firewall (titsy - is that perm live or switched?)

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Post by: Andy on January 08, 2013, 10:32:34 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

Yeah, sounds like an alright deal, although I think you may want to put some current limiting device in series. I used a couple of 250 ohm resistors in series. Just for safety sake.

Good luck, give me a shout if you got any questions, I have gone through exactly the same with mine trying to get a feed out of a dead unit.

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Post by: Jamieg285 on January 09, 2013, 12:14:15 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm guessing something like this : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290783770609?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 is what I need to test the vacuum.

Exact same one as I use (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 09, 2013, 02:29:33 pm

Cool. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Will order one ASAP - What sort of Vacuum figures should I be looking for (this is new to me) ?

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Post by: Roadkill on January 09, 2013, 04:46:08 pm

On a sidenote I'm currently investigating some FIA approved seats . . . which weigh half of what my current (spray-painted) ones do.

Not an expected outlay but one of the "old" ones has beige spray-primer down one side (no, not by me). (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Also I should be sorting the welding for the steering bracketry soon . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

. . Hopefully . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on January 09, 2013, 08:37:31 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

On a sidenote I'm currently investigating some FIA approved seats . . . which weigh half of what my current (spray-painted) ones do.

Cool (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

Also I should be sorting the welding for the steering bracketry soon . . . .

. . Hopefully . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Jamieg285 on January 10, 2013, 12:23:34 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

What sort of Vacuum figures should I be looking for (this is new to me) ?

No idea (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

There's a raft of things that can affect the figures you get. It should be used more as a guide, looking at how the figures vary under different conditions.

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Post by: Roadkill on January 10, 2013, 03:18:21 pm

O.K, well, it's another useful tool to have, too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Got the steering bracket welded up - £20 cash in hand to one of my supplier's welder's (he was on it for about an hour and a half).

He went to turn the money down at first but I reminded him how much I'd be getting stiffed for if I'd opted to get a mobile welder in and at least I knew this guys work !

We had the welding plant at work so it was pretty straight forward.

It's still cooling down at the mo', but I'll give it a clean up and get a pic later.

Need to get it primed and painted and back on the car ASAP so I can start making the column (MK3) up.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 10, 2013, 09:54:57 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Got the steering bracket welded up - £20 cash in hand to one of my supplier's welder's (he was on it for about an hour and a half).

He went to turn the money down at first but I reminded him how much I'd be getting stiffed for if I'd opted to get a mobile welder in and at least I knew this guys work !

Cool not bad at all then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 11, 2013, 05:20:19 pm

Some quick pics -

Steering thingy mocked up in place . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1821_zps1bf8e27c.jpg)

Welded and linished - ready for cleaning and painting . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1823_zps2c802a37.jpg)

Painted !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1829_zpscc711e3f.jpg)

The new seats. A big chunk of plastic cash I didn't want to spend but they're the dogs danglies and really the Camaro ~~needed~~ justified them.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1828_zps4cd250c5.jpg)

I'm just sketching some plates ready to go into laser-cutting so I can fit the new seats to the existing holes in my floor pan and also an extra plate to fit the better of the two "old" seats to my office chairs' frame . . . I test-fitted it roughly a couple of nights back and it's luuuuurvly and comfy.

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Post by: Andy on January 11, 2013, 07:36:10 pm

Lovely seats!! There was a company a while ago who sold racing seats on a office chair base! Really wanted one but I don't have an office!

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Post by: Roadkill on January 11, 2013, 08:22:12 pm

It's an easy thing to do ... I'm just getting a laser cut plate made to pick up on the holes on the underside of the seat from the car, then adding a series of holes to match the pattern in the top of the seat frame.
I've added an array of holes so I can adjust it back and forth to get the sweet spot before fixing it down.
I'll add pictures of that mini project when I get the plate back.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

EDIT - This is for my home office, btw. I've only just got a new seat for my office at work ..... although .... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 11, 2013, 09:59:38 pm

Very nice seats (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

looking good on the bracket (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 16, 2013, 04:33:20 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm guessing something like this : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290783770609?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 is what I need to test the vacuum.

Acquired. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Been slow but steady progress this week. I've only had time during lunch breaks as I've been very busy and had last weekend off to spend some time at home with 'Er indoors and the nipper.

Anyway . . .

Here's the lower section of the K-Member all cleaned up and re-painted after the removal of the old brackets. (It did look a proper mess !)

Note the 5 drilled and tapped M8 holes on the front.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1841_zps81b00812.jpg)

Next is my bracket (COPYRIGHT - ME, 2013, Spohn if you're looking !!). It's entirely bolt-on, using 2 x M20, 2 x M16 and 5 x M8 fixings (the M20 & M16 picking up on existing holes in the K-Member).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1842_zps1b41b3dc.jpg)

Needless to say my arrangement looks ten times better, locates the steering a hundred times better and is about a thousand times stronger than Spohn's ill-conceived offering !!!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)

On the plus side it's really given me the urge and confidence to fabricate more custom stuff for my next project (the Cadillac) so that should be fun. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1844_zpsd809db56.jpg)

Finally, the slam panel . . It's been kicking around for ages, now but I've finally got it fitted, cleaned and have replaced the original rusty fixings with Stainless screws.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1845_zpsd3513483.jpg)

Also we bypassed and removed the (apparently faulty) Clutch switch a couple of weeks back but I've now fitted proper connectors and tidied the wiring.

Have also drawn up the new plates for fitting the new seats . . . I'm hoping to have these laser-cut and powder coated for collection Friday.

If that's the case it'll be seats and harnesses in over the weekend before dropping her back on 4 wheels and starting to make the steering column and associated parts . . .

Soooooooo close, now . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on January 16, 2013, 04:43:59 pm

Wow, great skill and progress (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

Although, I now hate you. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/baby.gif)

Every time I put something freshly painted on my bus it gets chipped no matter how careful I am with it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/viking.gif)

Also, do you not want the white letters on the tyres facing the outside? I presume you prefer the black look? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 16, 2013, 06:28:46 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Every time I put something freshly painted on my bus it gets chipped no matter how careful I am with it

I try to get as much powder-coated as possible as this is much more tolerant of minor fitting abuse.

The rest is solved by laying on your back with a aerosol cap containing a quick blast of spray paint and a modelling brush (that was part of yesterday lunchtime's job) . . . So don't feel too bad.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Also, do you not want the white letters on the tyres facing the outside? I presume you prefer the black look?

We've had this discussion before. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

I personally felt that the wheels were a bit too blingy for white letters . . . . to put into perspective, I intend to show the white lettering on my next set of wheels (A.R.E Outlaws) as I feel these are relatively low-key.

That said. I may change my mind before then. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: F Body on January 16, 2013, 07:06:30 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

locates the steering a hundred times better and is about a thousand times stronger than Spohn's ill-conceived offering !!!!

Nice bit of metal work RK (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

The rest is solved by laying on your back with a aerosol cap containing a quick blast of spray paint and a modelling brush

Welcome to my world (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/polish.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 16, 2013, 09:48:00 pm

That looks Sooooooooooo much better that bracket, as you say much better alignment on the rack -> wheels as well.

It's close to being able to be driven!!!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on January 16, 2013, 10:30:30 pm

I think the slam panel could do with some shadow board tool outlines as I'm guessing it's mainly going to get tools put on it... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on January 17, 2013, 07:54:04 am

Quoting: Titsy

I think the slam panel could do with some shadow board tool outlines as I'm guessing it's mainly going to get tools put on it..

And cans of beer of course (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on January 17, 2013, 08:52:18 am

Quoting: Incursus

And cans of beer of course

Ooo yeah, you chould have pressed some recesses in for locating your beer... =oP

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Post by: Roadkill on January 17, 2013, 01:27:45 pm

I was toying with the idea of putting all the manufacturers stickers on it as a "Stuff I've bought" list (as opposed to the Chav "I want" list) . . . . . .

But, nah.

I prefer the satin ally look better . . .

I really must find a use for the dozens of (admittedly cool) stickers I have . . .

On a side note I picked up the plates for fitting the seats - so that's on for the weekend. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Also picked up the adapter plate to fit the old seat to my office chair (won't be able to resist doing that tonight) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on January 18, 2013, 11:04:50 am

Quoting: Roadkill

The rest is solved by laying on your back with a aerosol cap containing a quick blast of spray paint and a modelling brush (that was part of yesterday lunchtime's job) . . . So don't feel too bad.

Aha! The secrets have been revealed! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/stir.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/taunt.gif)

But really, that is good as I thought I was doing everything wrong! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Quoting: F Body

Nice bit of metal work RK

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

I was toying with the idea of putting all the manufacturers stickers on it as a "Stuff I've bought" list (as opposed to the Chav "I want" list) . . .

I'm quite 'into' stickers as you all know. I've planned out this:

Rear window: German stickers and information stickers such as

(http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server2300/930a2/products/104/images/232/Please-Be-Ramps__63842.1305272797.1280.1280.jpg)

Right Rear Window: Funny stickers such as:

(http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server2300/930a2/products/31/images/120/Other-Ride-Yoshi__82959.1293829201.1280.1280.jpg)

(http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server2300/930a2/products/111/images/287/Bay-Pride__41164.1328128499.1280.1280.jpg)

Left Rear Window: Parts stickers - showing all the components that the bus is fitted with.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

After reading through all the work and skill you have put into this build, I think you will be needing one of these:

(http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server2300/930a2/products/33/images/123/Built-Not-Bought-Black__17867.1293884203.1280.1280.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 18, 2013, 05:36:32 pm

I've got my deadline, now, for the Camaro . . . It's all a bit (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif) at the moment but I've agreed that she'll be done and out of the unit by February 11th . . . . Not bad as it's well passed what I'd originally agreed . . .

Still. Better get a wiggle on as there's still a few bits to do !

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Post by: Big Mouse on January 18, 2013, 06:01:48 pm

Rad bracket just needs 8 neat little numbered holes to locate the spark plugs when working on the engine (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 21, 2013, 03:22:33 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Not a bad idea . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I could call it weight saving, too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Annnnyyywaaay . . .

Got a few bits ticked off the list on Saturday . . . . (cheers Ian).

Main job was to investigate the alternator (Ian will have to chip in here but I gather we're missing a connector thingy inside of the connector plug itself . . . ?)

Also to fit the seats . . . .

Here's a pic of the laser-cut mounting plate on the drivers side (FIA apparently like 3mm steel plates and mine are 6mm so I'm confident they'll be fine).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1859_zpsf9ff174a.jpg)

Both seats in and fixed into position (took a bit of fannying around but got there in the end . . . )

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1860_zps0852fff6.jpg)

Finished fitting and adjusting the harnesses earlier today, too (another job off the list).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1871_zps6a784eb5.jpg)

Also finished fitting the other exterior badges on the lower cill covers earlier . . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1869_zpseef2bfdb.jpg)

And fitted the final badge I bought in the interior. That's all I'm doing though. They're nice and subtle . . anymore would be too much, IMO.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1870_zpsffb9edd5.jpg)

Next I just need to do a little bit of paint touching up and re-POR15'ing around the seat fittings before dropping her back on 4 wheels and adjusting the steering, then start constructing the steering column.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

EDIT -

After that she's - theoretically - drive-able . . . . Leaving only jobs relating to the two doors left !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

I think.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on January 21, 2013, 09:57:18 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Main job was to investigate the alternator (Ian will have to chip in here but I gather we're missing a connector thingy inside of the connector plug itself . . . ?)

Yup - steve in the box of bits dean gave you, did you have the metal connector inserts for the altenator multi plug or not ? typically the plug only has 1 metal connector in it - the one with teh thin wire coming out which is also a different size (so couldn't even borrow it) - if not are they buyable on their own or is it a new plug jobby ?

Quoting: Roadkill

After that she's - theoretically - drive-able . . . . Leaving only jobs relating to the two doors left !!!

Yeah bloody scary really!!! lol

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Post by: Titsy on January 22, 2013, 05:47:10 pm

You'll be needing one of these as neither the original nor the LT1 alternator connections are the same as the CS130

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Post by: Roadkill on January 23, 2013, 10:34:44 am

Quoting: Titsy

You'll be needing one of these as neither the original nor the LT1 alternator connections are the same as the CS130

Bought

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 27, 2013, 11:20:05 pm

Did some touching up here and there over the course of the week and started preparing stuff for the up-coming steering column battle . . .

Dropped her back down on 4 wheels today and took advantage of the sunny spells . . . got the main window rubber tracks and rubbers in. Also re-fitted the rest of the interior trim around the windows.

Exhaust is low . . very low. But no lower than I'd guessed it would be.

That said the plan is to remove the cross-over section next weekend and modify it the following week. This should gain an extra inch, maybe a bit more.

Time is now running out, though.

I'll be battling the steering column this week and hoping that the alternator tail arrives so that can be sorted this coming weekend . . . .

Some pics from this evening . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1973_zps2290c542.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1974_zps3603a937.jpg)

Thanks to Ian for assistance today. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on January 28, 2013, 10:40:04 am

Impressive dude! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

Does it return home straight away when complete or off for an MOT first?

What about the white lettering on the tyres? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I jest, I jest! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 28, 2013, 11:01:51 am

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Does it return home straight away when complete or off for an MOT first?

I suppose I should actually send the V5 back to the DVLA with all the changes on it . . . . .

I also want to re-register it to get rid of the stupid Irish number plate so, no, not quite off to the MoT station . . . !

Quoting: Cunning Plan

What about the white lettering on the tyres?

The final (expensive) job will be to change the wheels as these are far too bling for the car, now . . . . the new wheels will (hopefully) get 4 new tyres but if cash is short I can re-use two of the old tyres (the rear wheels will need new tyres as they'll be a lot wider).

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 30, 2013, 11:47:20 am

Spoke to an exhaust builder yesterday regarding the noise of the exhaust . . . Between the two of us we came up with a few ideas . . . (without completely changing the lay-out). (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

With the modifications to the "H" pipe I'll be introducing a different type of flexible pipe that'll both reduce vibration and noise a bit . . . That said it'll only be two short lengths so I don't expect it to do much on it's own.

The other plan is to add a 26" glass-pack type box to each of the side-pipes as far back as I can get them . . . this will reduce the noise a little but should get rid of a lot of the more aggressive "raspy" noise.

If it's still "too" loud I have the option to add another 18" glass-pack to the side-pipes as well !!

I've also invested in 5m of heat wrap and stainless ties for the pipe that runs under the gearbox to stop that from cooking !!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Jamieg285 on January 30, 2013, 12:21:18 pm

Have you seen SuperTrapps. They do a relatively compact muffler, that bolts on the end of the pipe, and can be tuned by adding/removing plates. You can even buy just the plates kit and attach it direct to the exhaust.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on January 30, 2013, 12:49:45 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Are they the things VW Beetle guys use? They do look really interesting!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 31, 2013, 01:00:06 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

Have you seen SuperTrapps

No I hadn't. Interesting stuff . . . and not cheap !

There's a seller selling stainless glass packs for £55 each so will start with them . . . If they don't work at least I've got something I can re-use or sell on.

Update on the steering . . . .

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll be battling the steering column this week

Weeeeelll . . . . some bad . . some not so bad. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Not so bad news : I think I've found somewhere to mount the steering heim, now . . and I think I know roughly how I'm going to do it.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

Bad news : After a 4th attempt with all new rods I'm still drawing the same conclusion . . . and that is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to construct a steering column which will not bind using the U-Joints Spohn provide in their kit.

I had this belief after the 3rd attempt but it's now very clear.

The critical angle is on the U-J between the two main rods . . . . the best I can get is about 135* . . . the U-J's bind at anything smaller than 145*.

The only way around this is to introduce a double-U-J where this one is now to spread the angle over two joints.

The problem is the joints I'm using aren't available over here, they're super expensive from the manufacturer, jegs don't sell them and Summit will take 2 weeks to get a double-U-J in stock !!!!

However, Summit do have another single U-J ready to ship so I've ordered another single one, to connect directly to my existing single joint to make a slightly longer double.

Make sense ?

No ?

Thought not.

Long story short, the steering is dead in the water - again - until the U-J arrives from the U.S . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 31, 2013, 01:03:37 pm

BTW - I've had the Camaro for 8 years today !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on January 31, 2013, 06:03:51 pm

have a look at UJ's here: http://www.ondrives.com/c/460/universal-joints

they don't show double joint on the page I've linked to but they are in each sub category.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on January 31, 2013, 08:29:14 pm

The needle roller double U-J's are on a 21 day lead time and the bore is 1/4" too small.

The rest of the UJ's are pin and block which aren't as durable.

I've bitten another bullet and ordered a single from summit for $75+shipping . . . . We'll see if it gets here in time.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 31, 2013, 09:00:34 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Spoke to an exhaust builder yesterday regarding the noise of the exhaust . . . Between the two of us we came up with a few ideas . . . (without completely changing the lay-out).

With the modifications to the "H" pipe I'll be introducing a different type of flexible pipe that'll both reduce vibration and noise a bit . . . That said it'll only be two short lengths so I don't expect it to do much on it's own.

The other plan is to add a 26" glass-pack type box to each of the side-pipes as far back as I can get them . . . this will reduce the noise a little but should get rid of a lot of the more aggressive "raspy" noise.

If it's still "too" loud I have the option to add another 18" glass-pack to the side-pipes as well !!

I've also invested in 5m of heat wrap and stainless ties for the pipe that runs under the gearbox to stop that from cooking !!

Sounds good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) when they arrive then lol

Quoting: Roadkill

Long story short, the steering is dead in the water - again - until the U-J arrives from the U.S . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif) bummer

Quoting: Roadkill

BTW - I've had the Camaro for 8 years today !!!

Happy 8th anniversary lol!

Quoting: Roadkill

ordered a single from summit for $75+shipping . . . . We'll see if it gets here in time.

WOW they really arn't cheap!!

Have you managed to persuade any more time out of work ?

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Post by: Roadkill on January 31, 2013, 10:25:45 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

Sounds good when they arrive then lol

Once I've sold some stuff on eBay !!!

EDIT - I do have something else in the box with the U-J coming from the states, though . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sparta.gif) . . . Seemed a shame to waste a box on just one thing !

Quoting: ianjpage

Have you managed to persuade any more time out of work ?

Not yet . . . . I'm waiting until next week for that . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 04, 2013, 05:23:53 pm

Well. The progress on Saturday was less than good. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

They kept telling me that a dual exhaust system was impossible on a Third Gen . . . . !

Anything's possible with the right amount of engineering is my answer . . . . and I still believe it . . . . . I've just not applied the right amount of engineering to it yet, it seems.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Looking at multiple ways of increasing the ground clearance as my ~~first~~ ~~second~~ ~~third~~ ~~fourth~~ ~~fifth~~ plan didn't work.

The critical thing is to maintain sufficient cross-sectional area of the pipe(s) . . . . I've been researching ideal exhaust diameter formulas today and the utter minimum I dare go to is 2 1/4" duals.

Based on that I can achieve a 15mm angled notch in the top of the current 2 1/2" pipes which will reduce the internal area to 2396mm2 . . . . compared to 2303mm2 for a 2 1/4" pipe.

Not ideal but it should give me at least an extra 10mm ground clearance (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif) and in the process locate the cross-over closer to the front wheels and further away from the middle of the car.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

We'll get there . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

EDIT

I've also looked at using oval pipes but they're rare as rocking horse $hit in the U.K . . .

My other option is to "press" the round pipes oval to maintain (theoretically) 100% flow but still get extra clearance . . . . Not sure how the pipe would crush, though, without doing some experiments . . . .

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Post by: F Body on February 04, 2013, 06:28:03 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I've also looked at using oval pipes but they're rare as rocking horse $hit in the U.K . . .

My other option is to "press" the round pipes oval to maintain (theoretically) 100% flow but still get extra clearance . . . . Not sure how the pipe would crush, though, without doing some experiments . . . .

The V8 4th Gens have exhaust pipes sections from the cats very flat to increase the ground clearance, I see if I can find a picture (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on February 04, 2013, 06:31:54 pm

Quoting: F Body

I'll see if I can find a picture

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/fbody007/1999%20Camaro%20Z28%20Refurb%20Nov%202010/DSC04593.jpg)

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/fbody007/1999%20Camaro%20Z28/DSC01994.jpg)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 04, 2013, 08:26:38 pm

Yeah, the "flat" oval pipe from what I've seen over here is only available in limited sizes.

Plus everyone wants £££ for it !!

The standard oval pipe is uber rare here . . . very popular in the states, though.

Considering I need a 2m length the shipping to get a piece here would be epic !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on February 04, 2013, 09:04:29 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

The standard oval pipe is uber rare here . .

Don't know the prices but might be worth a phone call (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

http://www.eliptec.co.uk/

http://www.smithshp.com/metals/stainless-steel-tube.htm#

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 05, 2013, 11:30:11 am

Quoting: F Body

http://www.eliptec.co.uk/

Have put an enquiry to them. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Quoting: F Body

http://www.smithshp.com/metals/stainless-steel-tube.htm#

No mention of oval tube, limited info, plus it was very aerospace orientated.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 07, 2013, 02:30:29 pm

I've been thinking outside of the box . . . . I currently have two headers, each with 3" collectors. I opted to reduce the pipes down to 2.5" diameter based on previous research . . .

2 x 2.5" pipes, then is the minimum cross section I should maintain . . .

So a 2.5" pipe (with 1.5mm wall thickness) = 2874mm2

Doubled is 5748mm2 which is the maximum my headers will feed (with the reducers) so this is the minimum I intend to maintain . . . .

I've sketched up a solution where both headers immediately feed into their reducers, then immediately into a short section of flexi-pipe (to reduce vibration), then these connect to modified elbows welded onto a flat-oval "box" that also forms the cross-over.

This box's section measures 40mm x 170mm overall and is unbaffled.

It won't require further notching as it's already 28mm more slender than the existing arrangement . . . .

The downside is that this section doesn't exist so I'm having it custom formed and TIG welded together.

Once I get the section back I need to start modifying various bits of my existing set up to connect to it . . .

CONS : It's a lot of work. Will take a lot of time and will look a little odd.

PROS : It'll be unique, 100% custom designed and fabricated (always a bonus IMHO) and will actually mix the gases better than the last set-up while maintaining 100% cross-sectional area.

Just hope it fits when I get the first bit back . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

EDIT -

Still no sign of the Alternator tail, yet . . . .

Also the Steering elbow is now in the country but it's looking unlikely that I'll get it for this weekend.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 10, 2013, 03:01:50 pm

I've done a 7-day, 60+ hours week this week so progress has been a tad slow . . . I have got some pictures, though . . . I'll upload later on.

Camaro must be out by the end of the month - long story but that's all I can wangle.

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Post by: Roadkill on February 10, 2013, 05:04:01 pm

Here's the "test" section . . . Tack TIGed . . . When the final piece was full seam welded it flattened down about 4mm and the length grew about 6mm with the distortion.

Good news is that it stayed straight, and even with the distortion I still maintain the cross-sectional area as I'd allowed a little extra in the first place . . . I also gain ANOTHER 4mm of ground clearance !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2062_zps263e93fd.jpg)

Next I started pillaging bits off of the current exhaust to make the new cross over (I'll sort this out later) . . .

Before :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2063_zpse37075ff.jpg)

After :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2064_zps901149ad.jpg)

With about an hour of fettling and test fitting . . . . Almost got the first of 4 contoured !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2065_zpsff1a3f0e.jpg)

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Post by: ianjpage on February 10, 2013, 05:09:22 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

yikes that a busy week (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Cool managed to get a little more time then, prob not a bad thing with the weather at the moment!!

Quoting: Roadkill

That is looking pretty nice, definitely will give that bit more clearance that's needed!!!

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Post by: Roadkill on February 11, 2013, 01:27:16 pm

The U.J has finally showed up, today, apparently . . . . there's also a shiny new distributor thingy in the box, too.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

STILL no sign of the alternator tail . . . am getting a tad concerned . . . .

No work will be done on the exhaust today - got too many other bits to do.

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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 11, 2013, 02:52:04 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

With about an hour of fettling and test fitting . . . . Almost got the first of 4 contoured !

Nice skill dude.

I am confused. Is that how your tail-pipes will look? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 11, 2013, 03:20:18 pm

No. It's just one part of it . . . . It'll all (hopefully) become clear(er) . . .

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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 11, 2013, 04:06:54 pm

Quoting: F Body

I'll see if I can find a picture

What under-seal coating is that? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on February 11, 2013, 05:54:53 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

With about an hour of fettling and test fitting . . . . Almost got the first of 4 contoured !

WOW that is going to be epic (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: F Body on February 11, 2013, 05:56:56 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Quoting: F Body
I'll see if I can find a picture

What under-seal coating is that?

Just standard black Waxoyl (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: art b on February 12, 2013, 11:02:16 am

Quoting: Cunning Plan

What under-seal coating is that

Quoting: F Body

Just standard black Waxoyl

its been polished.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: art b on February 12, 2013, 11:05:07 am

Quoting: Roadkill

With about an hour of fettling and test fitting . . . . Almost got the first of 4 contoured !

looks fantastic...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 12, 2013, 03:33:34 pm

Moroso 72230 DuraFire - A thing of Beauty

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2077_zps3a81cb1f.jpg)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

EDIT - Got the new U.J, too so that's another job on the list . . . . This weekend could be the last I get in the unit so It's all systems "Go" (in the little spare time I have, that is . . . )

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on February 12, 2013, 09:04:02 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Moroso 72230 DuraFire - A thing of Beauty

mm very nice and shiny (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

EDIT - Got the new U.J, too so that's another job on the list . . . . This weekend could be the last I get in the unit so It's all systems "Go" (in the little spare time I have, that is . . . )

Ahh is next weekend the move then (not the w/end of the 2/3 mar?

(sent you pm as well)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 12, 2013, 09:28:50 pm

Alternator tail arrived today. Finally ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/woohoo.gif)

It's looking like we're moving it NEXT weekend . . . but I'm hanging on as long as I can !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on February 12, 2013, 09:33:55 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Alternator tail arrived today. Finally !

Blimey that did take a long time!!

Quoting: Roadkill

It's looking like we're moving it NEXT weekend . . . but I'm hanging on as long as I can !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 13, 2013, 03:30:45 pm

Pictures from this lunchtime . . .

Detail on first finished "port" - This is the top of the cross-over, and will be behind the RIGHT or P/S Header . . . :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2078_zps1f80beba.jpg)

Showing all the man-hours :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2079_zps3d7edaa9.jpg)

View from the front . . . I got the gaps even tighter on the second port . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2080_zpsad45ac8a.jpg)

Overall - Note second port isn't finished yet :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2081_zpsab417b3e.jpg)

Long work . . . but I've got the hang of it now so it's a bit quicker then when I first started.

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Post by: F Body on February 13, 2013, 05:58:16 pm

That is going to be awesome (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Will it be supported by the connecting pipes or brackets and how are you going to weld it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 13, 2013, 10:10:09 pm

Is that your welding? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 14, 2013, 10:00:59 am

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Is that your welding?

No, because of the high risk of distortion it was TIGed for me at a fabricators - they also did the forming on a brake-press.

Butt-welding 1.5mm isn't easy - took the guy ages !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Quoting: F Body

Will it be supported by the connecting pipes or brackets

By the pipes, certainly but intend to get some brackets in there, too . . . will offer it up and get a feel for it . . . .

Quoting: F Body

how are you going to weld it

I'm taking it to be TIGed later today . . . . Hopefully they can plug any gaps I've left. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: EDGE on February 14, 2013, 10:28:02 am

So the headers will be firing in to the ends of the oval or in to the front edge of it near the ends? Or opposite the exits?

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Post by: Andy on February 14, 2013, 10:35:32 am

Nice bit of fab!

Is it heavy? I think I'm struggling to see where this is going in the car, but it looks fricking cool!

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Post by: F Body on February 14, 2013, 12:33:50 pm

I think you should incorporate a cooking tray onto the top of it, when you stop you'll have bacon roll in 3 minutes (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 14, 2013, 02:12:31 pm

Quoting: Andy

Is it heavy? I think I'm struggling to see where this is going in the car, but it looks fricking cool!

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(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 14, 2013, 04:12:44 pm

It'll make more sense once the next stage of fabrication starts . . . . It's not an ideal solution but the only solution with the arrangement I have.

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Post by: ianjpage on February 14, 2013, 09:54:47 pm

looking at the x-over in those pics, looks so much like a plane wing with engines missing lol (can't think of name of plane tho!)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on February 14, 2013, 09:56:18 pm

kinda like:

(http://www.vulcanair.com/userfiles/image/p68C-image1.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 15, 2013, 01:39:49 pm

I know . . it does kinda look Aeronautical . . . . I got the "pods" welded up yesterday along with the feed-in tubes . . . .

I'll post a pic and it can speak for itself . . . . . . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 15, 2013, 02:58:58 pm

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2085_zps70d21382.jpg)

Welding the flexi was, I quote "a bitch" as it's made up of multiple paper-thin layers of stainless . . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2086_zps5493fb1e.jpg)

Now begins step 2 . . . . . The exits . . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on February 15, 2013, 03:01:09 pm

Oh, and Titsy : NO CHEMICAL METAL THIS TIME !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 15, 2013, 03:48:10 pm

It's beginning to look like a stock aircooled VW exhaust (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(http://api.vwheritage.com/_img/large/127075_01_large.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: EDGE on February 15, 2013, 04:07:55 pm

where are the exits going?

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 15, 2013, 04:24:46 pm

Quoting: EDGE

where are the exits going?

At the ends, which are currently open.

They'll channel back into a 90 degree / 2.5" pipe section . . . unfortunately, as before, I have to aim them forwards, towards the front of the car before U-turning them back again due to the SFC/clearance issues.

I briefly considered notching the SFC's to make the exhaust path more direct but the amount I'd have to notch would mean that they'd be doing nothing, even with plating.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: EDGE on February 15, 2013, 04:43:17 pm

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 15, 2013, 04:44:10 pm

This was the old arrangement . . the flow path is not dissimilar but I'll hopefully gain around 40mm of ground clearance . . . .

(Old pic)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Exh2008.jpg)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: EDGE on February 15, 2013, 05:02:58 pm

are you sure the exhaust isn't overheating because of all the U bends?

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Post by: Roadkill on February 15, 2013, 06:21:43 pm

Difficult to say, to be honest. We've run it for maximum of around 15 minutes or so . . . . Yes it got hot but I'm not sure how we could measure that.

It certainly seems to be running well . . . can't speak for the gases, though.

I do appreciate the gases flowing into the new oval section are going to be hitting the back of it like meteors into Russians . . .

Without making a highly complex fabrication utilising said section I'm a bit stuck.

EDIT -

I've got some heat-bandage that I intend to wrap around it to protect some areas under the car it runs close to (gearbox) . . .

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on February 16, 2013, 06:24:29 pm

that cross over looks very nice now

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 18, 2013, 10:10:42 am

No progress over the weekend . . . . .

At all . . . . . .

I opted to take Saturday off and spend some time with Sammy and Jensen (as I'd left early and been late home from work every evening and missed seeing Jensen entirely one night), plus it was Vicky's party in the evening - it made sense.

Sunday I felt achy and feverish all day and my hands were shaking alot of the day . . . I decided using an angle grinder was unwise in such a condition (silly Health & Safety head) . . . .

It means that this week will be punishing in order to get it all done !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on February 18, 2013, 10:54:08 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Sunday I felt achy and feverish all day and my hands were shaking alot of the day . . . I decided using an angle grinder was unwise in such a condition (silly Health & Safety head) . . . .

Wierd, that almost sounds flu-like symptoms, hope it ain't anything like that tho (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

It means that this week will be punishing in order to get it all done !

More so than usual !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 19, 2013, 09:51:10 am

Got about 2 hours on it last night . . . .

The first exit cut and ready for welding.

Mocked up in place :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2100_zpsf03a28d6.jpg)

And, as before, showing all the work (cutting the pipe section was a tad scary at times) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2099_zps7f743105.jpg)

Hope to somehow get the other side done today so it can go back off for welding tomorrow . . . .

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on February 19, 2013, 11:16:18 am

Certainly looks the biz (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 19, 2013, 11:26:24 am

I've got a stainless Lambda boss and plug arriving this week which will be added (only for short-term testing).

Also think I'd benefit from a little notch at the top of the cross-over to allow breathing room for the gearbox - but won't know for sure without a test-fit.

EDIT -

Good progress made on my lunch hour . . . should be finished the other outlet tonight/tomorrow morning.

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Post by: Titsy on February 19, 2013, 03:11:51 pm

Isn't the ledge as it transitions into the exit piece going to cause a lot of turbulence...?

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Post by: Roadkill on February 19, 2013, 04:27:15 pm

The gas is going in the opposite direction so I hope it's minimum, but yeah, I know what you mean.

It will be tapered a little once it's tacked into place (there's only so much I can do with it loose).

Plus, a little turbulence is probably acceptable considering the rest of the system is theoretically free-flowing.

There's no silencers or mufflers . . . . only a straight-through cherry-bomb style glass pack on each side pipe to try and kill some of the higher pitched noises.

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Post by: ianjpage on February 19, 2013, 05:51:52 pm

That looks very nice!!

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Post by: EDGE on February 20, 2013, 09:49:50 am

it looks like you've got at least 2 stall points in there where the gasses will just be pounding in to a flat wall.

Could you not at least open up the oval and weld in some angled baffles to help the gasses turn. It looks like you're going to end up with a huge build up in the box with the pressure of the engine having to force it down the side pipes rather than it flowing at all.

Have you considered the distance of the "H" from the headers? It looks awfully close.

I don't know what the underneath of your car looks like to be fair but I would have thought that the headers could reduce to 2 lengths of flat oval pipe, to about the tail of the trans. A flat oval cross could be fairly high at that point as the tail is narrow and then the rest could exit as an where there's space over the axle.

Or is the compromise because you want the side pipes?

just playing devils advocate, (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 20, 2013, 12:05:03 pm

Quoting: EDGE

Have you considered the distance of the "H" from the headers? It looks awfully close.

It is. No choice really . . I could move it back another 40mm but then I'd hit the trans mount.

On my reading it was said numerous times that you want the cross-over as early as possible . . . ?
I agree the cross-over they had in mind probably didn't look like mine but -

Quoting: EDGE

I don't know what the underneath of your car looks like

Here's some pics from last night's test fit :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2101_zps44998858.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2102_zpse524865f.jpg)

Quoting: EDGE

I would have thought that the headers could reduce to 2 lengths of flat oval pipe, to about the tail of the trans. A flat oval cross could be fairly high at that point as the tail is narrow and then the rest could exit as an where there's space over the axle.

The "stock" position for a third-gen is to run a 3" pipe through the trans-tunnel.

This was the original plan and I even got an off-set upper panhard arm to increase the clearances for the pipes near the axle.

The T56 trans mount and the tubular torque arm's cradle mean that you couldn't even get a single 2" pipe through the gap, now !

Quoting: EDGE

Or is the compromise because you want the side pipes?

No. I actually don't think sidepipes look "right" on 80's cars (I actually discussed making the sidepipes out of square section to keep more "in keeping" with the lines of the car . . . ) . . . I DO like side exits but the pipes are where they are because that's the highest point to position them.

I'm stuck, really.

With Long Tube headers I can't take the normal path for my cross-over (behind the sump and before the flywheel).

Another option is to forget about the cross-over altogether and literally just put a 90 degree turn on the headers and dump them out each side (ground clearance wouldn't be an issue, then, but it would be a) VERY loud and, b) What would I loose by not having a cross-over of some description ?

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Post by: EDGE on February 20, 2013, 12:22:11 pm

It's probably worth finding out exactly where the cross over should be by using the wax crayon method. Once you now that you can actually make it where it needs to be.

Have you thought of going to a rear exit exhaust, I imagine that you could run 2 flat ovals ticket up beside the subframe connectors, cross them over behind the trans, then bring them both over the axle where you could use a larger muffler.

This would probably require some bending but you could easily mock it up with tack welds and slits under the car. You may even find someone selling plastic oval that you can use for mock up.

You can get the whole lot coated so it won't cook anything under the car too, that's probably an ideal solution.

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Post by: Roadkill on February 20, 2013, 12:27:08 pm

Quoting: EDGE

Could you not at least open up the oval and weld in some angled baffles to help the gasses turn

Just re-read that bit - actually I'd been thinking similar earlier.

I had considered adding something before the "pods" were welded on but was "to the wall" with time so they got forgotten.

I am considering insert a 32mm wide strip of stainless flat . . . . If it was long enough it could be tacked into position at each end before the exit tubes were added which then avoid the need for it to be cut open (cutting and re-welding now would cause too much distortion - it banana'ed last time but we managed to heat it and flatten it back out).

Anyway - I could bend radii into the flat to encourage the gas to flow, like you say . . .

------v---v------

It would look like the above in plan, slide into the oval tube and be tacked at each end . . . theoretically it may resonate a little bit but it's highly unlikely you'll ever hear it !

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Post by: Roadkill on February 20, 2013, 12:31:26 pm

Quoting: EDGE

cross them over behind the trans

So this would be O.K - as the articles I'd read said that the sooner the better for the cross-over ?

That said it wouldn't help at all as any path under the car is too low. Which is why GM run the pipe in the trans-tunnel.

If I can't join them between the sump and the flywheel I have the same issue everywhere.

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Post by: EDGE on February 20, 2013, 01:58:18 pm

So there's no room at all under the car? How deep do the subframe connectors sit? There's always a way. Can you get the car up on a 4 post to have a proper look?

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Post by: Roadkill on February 20, 2013, 06:30:29 pm

Quoting: EDGE

So there's no room at all under the car?

To run pipes front-to-back they'd have to be oval (like the ones Martyn showed).

Quoting: EDGE

How deep do the subframe connectors sit?

They're nominally 30mm deep.

Quoting: EDGE

Can you get the car up on a 4 post to have a proper look?

I've spent an accumulated 10+ hours under the car - much of it when it was on 4 high axle stands.

A 4-post lift would be better but not readily available . . . .

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Post by: Andy on February 20, 2013, 06:40:56 pm

By now I would've taken the decision open headers would be just fine! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: EDGE on February 20, 2013, 11:32:32 pm

Yeah, oval pipes is what I was suggesting, front to back.

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Post by: FUBAR on February 21, 2013, 02:07:08 am

Just another random idea, can you get "Muffler Innards" in Kit form at all? that way you may be able to use the Large Flat crossover section as a sort of muffler ??

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Post by: Roadkill on February 22, 2013, 02:17:26 pm

Due to events I'd prefer not to discuss at the moment, the Camaro MUST be moved this weekend.

I'm not sure how, yet, but I need to do a hell of a lot to it before it moves.

Hey-Ho.

Trailer's booked, anyway.

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Post by: ianjpage on February 24, 2013, 09:46:10 pm

I'll let dean put a full update on but not looking promising on the altenator front, wired up the new plug as per page 70 pics / diags - still only show 11.5 @ the battery (which is what the battery had in it).

Need to do some more testing with a meter to see what's coming out the back of the altenator / what the voltage is on the plug etc before making any conclusions...

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Post by: Andy on February 25, 2013, 01:51:09 am

http://www.realsteel.co.uk/section3b.pdf

Page S3/37

Bought mine brand new from them, next day delivery too.

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Post by: Titsy on February 25, 2013, 10:37:26 am

Is the car back at CRK1 now? Did you want me to pop round one evening and take a look? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 25, 2013, 03:08:28 pm

Quoting: Andy

By now I would've taken the decision open headers would be just fine!

I do still need to get it through an MoT, though !

Quoting: EDGE

Yeah, oval pipes is what I was suggesting, front to back.

The Oval section GM use isn't readily available over here hence I had my bit fabricated.
To fabricate two 8-foot lengths would cost literally hundreds of pounds in labour hours and they'd look like banana'd cork-screws over that length.
Other oval sections are available but are expensive in small quantities and elbows/joiners etc . . . do not exist.

Quoting: FUBAR

Just another random idea, can you get "Muffler Innards" in Kit form at all?

You can.

Quoting: FUBAR

that way you may be able to use the Large Flat crossover section as a sort of muffler ??

If you cut open a muffler inside you'll see perforated pipe making the path, surrounded by fibre.
My Oval section is to shallow to support any perforated tube hence any fibre would just get blown out the ends.

Quoting: Titsy

Is the car back at CRK1 now?

It is.

Quoting: Titsy

Did you want me to pop round one evening and take a look?

That'd be good. Can you do one day over the weekend as it'll be dark by the time I get in, still ?

Quoting: Andy

http://www.realsteel.co.uk/section3b.pdf

Page S3/37

Bought mine brand new from them, next day delivery too.

I'm still reluctant to buy another yet, as this one was freshly reconditioned by a specialist in the states.
Although now out of warranty, of course.

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Post by: Roadkill on February 25, 2013, 03:33:45 pm

Some pictures from the weekend . . .

My new Stainless "Cherry Bombs" (which may or may not get used . . . . )

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2103_zps8b94f2fd.jpg)

The cross-over 99% complete - in a hurry on Saturday afternoon the guy forgot to fit the Lambda boss !
No choice but to take it, really !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2119_zps2698ee6d.jpg)

The underside of the car, rails protected with heat-resistant wrap (the cross-over also had some fitted to protect the gearbox)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2120_zpsb0d66b98.jpg)

Videos :

Door poppers re-wired with heavier gauge wires, adjusted and working perfectly.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/th_VIDEO0150_zps23090b4e.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/th_VIDEO0151_zpse97d545e.jpg)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 25, 2013, 03:43:14 pm

Finally a (jumpy) video of her idling after the new Dizzy was fitted . . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/th_VIDEO0152_zpse8b13091.jpg)

We didn't time her or do any tuning - just dumped the dizzy in roughly the right place and fired her up !

The side-pipes are NOT connected . . . . using just the cross-over she sounded a lot nicer on the ear than before . . . most of the raspy high-pitched noise was gone leaving a much better sound.

She was quieter, too . . . not sure how, but a lot quieter.

I'm now considering loosing the side-pipes altogether and just dumping the pipes out behind the front wheels . . . .

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Thanks to Ian for assistance Saturday and Sunday, thanks to Vicky for Jensen-sitting Saturday, thanks to Samantha for a level of patience, thanks to my stubbornness for Friday night and thanks to Jensen for helping me forget the utter misery at times.

I said I'd drive her out of the unit . . . and I did. Still no steering but she drove out under her own power. First time in 7 years !!!

Couple of other pictures while she was waiting to go on the trailer . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2122_zps9e98cc19.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2121_zpsc8eb5eb5.jpg)

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Post by: F Body on February 25, 2013, 07:07:51 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

The cross-over 99% complete - in a hurry on Saturday afternoon the guy forgot to fit the Lambda boss !
No choice but to take it, really !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2119_zps2698ee6d.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=150>Now even I'm confused [img]http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

I'd have placed a wedge on the outlets going backwards not forwards (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on February 25, 2013, 09:54:47 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

rails protected with heat-resistant wrap

Quoting: Roadkill

Door poppers re-wired with heavier gauge wires, adjusted and working perfectly.

Quoting: F Body

Quoting: Roadkill
The cross-over 99% complete - in a hurry on Saturday afternoon the guy forgot to fit the Lambda boss !
No choice but to take it, really !

Now even I'm confused

I'd have placed a wedge on the outlets going backwards not forwards

Ahh its simple's really lol.

They originally had to come forward to go backward, otherwise the side pipe wouldn't start at the front of the cill but a good foot ish back...so they come forward, do a "U" then go the whole length of the side cill (well that's currently anyhow lol!) to look better!

Quoting: Roadkill

Finally a (jumpy) video of her idling after the new Dizzy was fitted . . . .

Still can't get over how lovely she sounds like that with just the stubby pipe;s... running nice as well !!

Quoting: Roadkill

Thanks to Ian for assistance Saturday and Sunday

no problems, was really nice and satisfying to see it move under it's own power and go forward and backwards!!

I said I'd drive her out of the unit . . . and I did. Still no steering but she drove out under her own power. First time in 7 years !!!

WOW didn't realise it was that long!!!!!

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Post by: Roadkill on February 27, 2013, 03:23:51 pm

Ordered another 2 steering heims ready for the final assault on the steering !

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Post by: Roadkill on February 27, 2013, 03:26:16 pm

Quoting: F Body

I'd have placed a wedge on the outlets going backwards not forwards

They need to be in that arrangement to miss the SFC's . . . If I go straight back I have to cross the SFC's putting the pipes very low. By coming forward, partly into the front wheel wells, I run around the front of the SFC's, maintaining maximum height.

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Post by: Andy on February 28, 2013, 08:25:21 am

As I found out after a lot of head scratching, just because its been rebuilt doesn't mean it'll work. I had to convince myself it was buggered even after they had it twice to rebuild it. The final straw was paying less than half what they had charged me for a brand new unit from Real Steel, once I fitted that and everything was working I ended up telling them their refurb unit was rubbish and they refunded me.

I guess I was lucky in that I had all the test equipment to prove it, and I was able to get it on the car the same day.

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Post by: Roadkill on February 28, 2013, 12:09:57 pm

I'm hoping Titsy can shed some light on it . . . . if not, a new one it'll have to be. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on February 28, 2013, 12:40:43 pm

Is around 2pm on Saturday ok?

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Post by: Roadkill on February 28, 2013, 01:46:26 pm

Yeah, that works. I'm Jensen-sitting all day but that's around his nap-time.

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Post by: Big Mouse on February 28, 2013, 07:11:59 pm

That does sound remarkably quiet for what is effectively a straight thru pipe. Your crossover design could be worth a lot if its unique and MOT approved - I'd look at getting it copyright protected if it is

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Post by: Roadkill on March 05, 2013, 02:41:52 pm

Was hoping to have the cash to buy a new registration number for the Camaro before putting her back on the road but have instead opted to buy a new set of pressed plates that break up the $hitty Irish "ALZ5978" reg number into something more palette-able.

I've had to go to a totally illegal US size and style font to add a space - in the wrong place - (AL Z5978) but I don't care.
There's a lot worse out there and I'll keep the old ones in the boot in case I'm tugged.

To further increase the naughty-ness of them I've also gone to white lettering on borderless black backgrounds.

Meh. If you're gonna do anything . . . . . . - (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Jo on March 06, 2013, 02:59:46 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

To further increase the naughty-ness of them I've also gone to white lettering on borderless black backgrounds

Sounds good. it'll match the car & look great (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on March 10, 2013, 07:04:41 pm

Alternator sorted (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

After a little reading it was a fairly simple fix. The breed of CS130 alternator that Dean has has got a PFLS pinout on the connector.

P is the stator and gives a square wave output that can be Used for a tach or other monitoring by an ECM.

The F pin is connected to the positive field and can be used for fault monitoring.

The L pin is used to drive a lamp on the dash which has the other side connected to ignition. When the alternator is not generating the L pin is grounded and so with the ignition switched on lights the warning bulb.

The S pin is the sense input that ideally is connected to the ignition distribution block and so boosts the output to allow for any voltage drop between the alternator output and the distribution. Dean's car isn't particularly heavy on electrical accessories, so it doesn't matter that the sense wire loops straight back to the output terminal.

The P and F pins don't really matter for much in this implementation either.

The important missing link was the Lamp output as it has a duel purpose. Dean had chosen not to have a warning lamp for this so while the lamp wire was routed to the dash is was left un-terminated. And the fact that this was un-terminated was the extent of the problem, because this connection has a duel purpose. The lamp is effectively used as a pull-up resistor and the ignition feed is used to switch on the regulator output. When the ignition is switched off the regulator is switched off so as not to create a voltage spike as the load is removed. so without a connection the regulator never comes on.

The simple solution was to put a 100 Ohm resistor between the L feed and an ignition source behind the instrument panel to simulate the presence of a bulb. The daft thing is that if your bulb blows then the alternator stops giving an output. Although I suspect most implementations of this setup have a resistor in parallel with the bulb so that if it blows there is still a pull-up, but without one is can very easily look like a duff alternator.

So sure enough with the resistor fitted and fired up there was a nice steady 14.7v at the battery (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I must say, that motor and exhaust has a lovely tone, even with only the crossover fitted... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: art b on March 10, 2013, 08:13:44 pm

Quoting: Titsy

The important missing link was the Lamp output as it has a duel purpose. Dean had chosen not to have a warning lamp for this so while the lamp wire was routed to the dash is was left un-terminated. And the fact that this was un-terminated was the extent of the problem, because this connection has a duel purpose. The lamp is effectively used as a pull-up resistor and the ignition feed is used to switch on the regulator output. When the ignition is switched off the regulator is switched off so as not to create a voltage spike as the load is removed. so without a connection the regulator never comes on.

i was gonna suggest that...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on March 10, 2013, 09:25:32 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Alternator sorted

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Quoting: Titsy

So sure enough with the resistor fitted and fired up there was a nice steady 14.7v at the battery

Cool least it was a relatively simple fix one the issue located (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Titsy

I must say, that motor and exhaust has a lovely tone, even with only the crossover fitted...

Isn't it just - not too loud that it is obnoxious (sp) but nice and V8 burbly (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 11, 2013, 09:36:41 am

Big thanks to Titsy for enduring the snow to sort the alternator out yesterday.

As he said it was an easy fix, albeit a bit tricky to diagnose - and something that I'll never forget as it's likely I'll hit the same issue when doing the Caddy !

No major update, due to the weather, Mother's day (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif) and Jensen sitting.

I did remove the side pipes yesterday, though . . . . This is hopefully for good. I intend to take her for her MoT without them but if they complain I'll get the glass packs fitted and then re-fit them . . . . . . But I'm really hoping I don't have to.

Next jobs are as follows :

1) Time / tune the engine . . . .
2) Continue measuring and fettling with the steering column . . .
3) Begin offering up the door cards / tweeking / fitting etc . . .
4) POR15 the inside of the doors and put in some drainage holes (the holes on one door were plated over during an earlier "repair")
5) Acquire removable steering wheel - EDIT - Am investigating . . .
6) Get new wheels !

In fairness once 1 & 2 are done she'll be ready for the MoT !!!

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Post by: Roadkill on March 13, 2013, 04:51:42 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I suppose I should actually send the V5 back to the DVLA with all the changes on it . . . . .

It's now registered as being a 2-seater and black.

However, they failed to spot that I'd also changed it to a 5700cc !!!

Muppets.

Looks like I'll have to do that again. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 18, 2013, 05:48:22 pm

Well . . . Managed to get a few bits done between Jensen-sitting, the snow and the rain at the weekend . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Ian worked on making the door poppers 100% MoT friendly (I had a simple idea and ordered 2 weather-proof switches and some cable from VWP) . . .

Basically the switches are mounted on the rear of the car, hidden under the number plate . . . meaning that they can be "popped" from outside of the car . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2203_zpsd449006c.jpg)

We also mounted a pimpin' little fuse and holder near the battery, in the boot (it's the little things that make me happy) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2204_zpse2ea4010.jpg)

I worked on fitting the new (totally illegal) number plates - not quite as simple as the front one had been previously bodged countless times before . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2201_zps5292b78f.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2202_zpsed7cdde8.jpg)

We also offered-up the "spare" new door cards . . . . Seem to line-up nicely.
Unfortunately the weather prevented anymore progress with these . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2200_zps6657c06c.jpg)

Getting there . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Andy on March 18, 2013, 06:01:00 pm

Love that number plate!

Looking sweet though. Whats the fuse for?

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Post by: Titsy on March 18, 2013, 07:54:53 pm

I'm guessing the fuse is for the popper switches so you can make the car secure after the MOT has passed...

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Post by: Roadkill on March 18, 2013, 10:11:29 pm

That is a handy side effect, yes.

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Post by: Incursus on March 19, 2013, 08:17:36 am

Especially after advertising to the world where the secret hidden buttons are (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Neat job though (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on March 19, 2013, 01:13:23 pm

Quoting: Incursus

Especially after advertising to the world where the secret hidden buttons are

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Post by: Roadkill on March 19, 2013, 01:40:03 pm

It'll be impossible to steal it after the addition of a removable steering wheel. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 19, 2013, 03:01:11 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

6) Get new wheels !

I was originally going to go with 7 x 15's on the front, 8 x 15's on the rear with all new tyres . . . . .

This would've totaled £1085 !!

Also it would've dropped the front of the car another 5-6mm with the choice of tyres I wanted . . .

In order to push things along I've opted for 8 x 15's front AND back and re-use my 235/60/15's from my existing 7 x 15 Torq Thrust II's.

This reduced the bill down to £470 which should be covered by the sale of my T.T.II's.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

The other plus side (apart from the saving) is the radius / geometry stays the same (or similar) to stock and I don't loose any more ground clearance . . . . And I get my new wheels tomorrow !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

EDIT . . . . But what rims did I go for ?????

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EDIT, EDIT . . . .

Quoting: Roadkill

5) Acquire removable steering wheel - EDIT - Am investigating . . .

New Grant Wheel and Removable Hub Ordered.

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Post by: Titsy on March 19, 2013, 04:22:37 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It'll be impossible to steal it after the addition of a removable steering wheel.

But would it stop the neighbours cats sleeping in it... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on March 19, 2013, 08:29:32 pm

cool new wheels sorted then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 19, 2013, 08:34:49 pm

Yeah. Bit of a risk but I'll be getting the others up for sale and hopefully gone before the credit card bill comes in.
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Post by: ianjpage on March 19, 2013, 08:37:39 pm

cool so wheel swop the weekend then ;);

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Post by: Roadkill on March 21, 2013, 05:35:16 pm

Quick update :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2223_zps29c17215.jpg)

Sidepipes gone and Outlaw I's fitted (to one side only at the mo' - will get the others sorted tomorrow). New wheel nuts, too.

Mental note - adjust the panhard to centralise the back end !!!

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Post by: Roadkill on March 27, 2013, 09:41:08 pm

It's that time . . . . (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/nos_smile_zpsb833fcf1.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on March 30, 2013, 06:23:07 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It's that time . . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2267_zps6e2eddd6.jpg)

Yeah baby. Got a stonking deal on a 100-150 N.O.S kit and pressure gauge . . . with the current exchange rate so lousy it actually mean't that I saved money buying it new over here !

Go figure ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

The kit came with lines, solenoids etc . . . etc . . . and a 10lb bottle.

Had a fairly successful day crossing some jobs off the "original" list . . . ie. Drilling drainage holes in the doors (previous repairs had blocked them) and then POR15ing the lower internal surfaces of the doors to protect them from any future standing/trapped water . . .

Next we moved on to making up a frame to mount the NOS bottle on . . . on top of the transmission tunnel was NOT my first choice but given the space the bottle needed, it did make sense.

It's not an easy task, though, so I had a series of bits and bobs laser-cut and bent up for me on Thursday in preparation.

The result was what I affectionately call the "horse"

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2271_zps95cbac47.jpg)

Also, with a quick modification, turned the cheap-ass not-so-quick-release bracket screws into much, much quicker-release brackets !

Such a simple yet effective mod - it baffles me why it's not done as standard ??

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2272_zps6137d1bf.jpg)

And finally, the evolution of an exhaust pipe.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2273_zps7c566384.jpg)

This is it. My complete exhaust system, after the headers.

Had to extend the "tail" pipes (with shiny stainless pipe I cut out from the old side-pipes).
Also got my fab guys to bend up and TIG on the brackets.
The exhaust is back on and will be final fixed tomorrow.

Also got 2 coats of black hammerite on the "horse" so it may be ready to go in tomorrow or Monday, latest.

Tomorrows jobs (weather dependent) are fitting the rest of the NOS kit under the hood, finish fitting the exhaust and continuing with the steering planning saga.

Maybe more . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Cheers to Ian, as usual. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on March 30, 2013, 08:07:43 pm

Great work, great read (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

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Post by: Big Mouse on March 31, 2013, 07:40:44 pm

How are you planning to fix the horse to the trans tunnel? it looks a bit 'industrial' for you as it is

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Post by: Roadkill on April 01, 2013, 03:04:43 pm

Horsey painted.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2274_zps651011d4.jpg)

Quoting: Big Mouse

How are you planning to fix the horse to the trans tunnel? it looks a bit 'industrial' for you as it is

Like so (although doesn't really show how it's done) - I added the holes at the bottom of the four "straps" after the first photo was taken . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2275_zps315936c5.jpg)

It's VERY heavy duty but I had just hours to design the brackets and plates and getting them cut and made before my fab guys packed up for Easter.

I was only saying to Ian yesterday that, if I do this again (and I will) that these are the kind of "additions" that should be thought about and allowed for right back when the car's stripped and gutted.

NOS was always a "some time in the future" plan but given the length of the Camaro project I opted to push on and get ALL the foreseen expenses out of the way now, to allow me to begin purchasing for the Cadillac as soon as possible . . . . So here it is. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2276_zps74704797.jpg)

It's about 75% fitted. Just need to take a fuel feed from the regulator (need a fuel barb fitting), final fix the microswitch (???), get an adapter so I can fit the gauge and run the wires.

In addition, and with Titsy's advice on board, it'll have a blow-down tube added before it's "Live" and I'll also fit a purge kit (not critical for now).

I don't intend to run it at all this year but it's nice to have it fitted. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Jobs left are basically finish installing the NOS kit (not super critical), win the war against the steering column (Uber-critical) and fettle/fit the door cards (not critical but a must-do) . . . Time and tune (Probably the next job).

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Then I reckon it's 99% done*

Note:

It'll never be 100% done.

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Post by: Big Mouse on April 01, 2013, 04:23:08 pm

How will you control it? I had an old maximiser controller kicking around somewhere, I'll have a look tomorrow to see if I can find it, might even have a bottle heater still.

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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 01, 2013, 04:34:33 pm

When itis Inn situ, You Get an iddea of how large thaat cylender is! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 01, 2013, 04:50:02 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

When itis Inn situ, You Get an iddea of how large thaat cylender is!

Holy sh!t, CP, how many spelling mistakes ?

Is your right hand busy doing something else ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Yeah, I was planning on having it in the P/S rear foot well. No chance !

Quoting: Big Mouse

How will you control it?

This is something I've briefly discussed with Titsy. As I say, not planning on running it this year (necessarily) so not fretting over that yet.

Quoting: Big Mouse

I had an old maximiser controller kicking around somewhere, I'll have a look tomorrow to see if I can find it

Excellent, would be interested, thanks.

Quoting: Big Mouse

might even have a bottle heater still

Ah ! That'd be pukka ! Definitely interested in that. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 01, 2013, 05:15:15 pm

Just ordered a load of little bits on eBay for the additional fuel line for the NOS kit. I run a 3/8" main but that one needs a 5/16" so I figure a complete separate line from the regulator is better than a nasty Tee-piece on the main line.

Also ordered another in-line fuel pressure gauge to check there's no fluctuations between the two.

Also just put another order in with Summit Racing . . . NOS blow-down tube and cap, NOS bottle blanket and NOS purge kit.

Now I'm going to lie down for a bit.

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Post by: art b on April 01, 2013, 06:01:09 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: Cunning Plan
When itis Inn situ, You Get an iddea of how large thaat cylender is!

Holy sh!t, CP, how many spelling mistakes ?

Is your right hand busy doing something else

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/jerkoff.gif) ........(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 01, 2013, 09:10:34 pm

Quoting: Big Mouse

How will you control it?

The Kit comes with the wiring for a master switch then a micro switch to fire the solenoids at WOT - it is actually a fairly comprehensive kit to get the NOS in and working (less purge / blow down etc)

Quoting: Roadkill

Just ordered a load of little bits on eBay

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Post by: Big Mouse on April 02, 2013, 08:27:04 am

Quoting: ianjpage

I was thinking more along the lines of controlling the timing when the kit is armed and maintaining constant fuel pressure; say the engine produces 350bhp at WOT plus 150 nitrous, you'd need a constant 6psi of fuel; you'll want a fuel pump that flows a minimum of 50gph and double that to be on the safe side.

I know its only a small kit but I would definitely flow test it first.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 02, 2013, 08:54:36 am

I'm running a Holley blue so the flow should be fine. The regulator is currently set at about 5.5 if I recall.

The plan is to only use a 100-shot.

I think I'll need to add an extra pair of bolts in the mains before I venture passed that.
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Timing will be The problem as I'm only running a dizzy but no ignition box.

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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 02, 2013, 09:37:57 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Holy sh!t, CP, how many spelling mistakes ?

Quoting: art b

.......

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

I replied quickly on the tablet whilst doing something else (not wanking), so I didn't check for mistakes (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 03, 2013, 08:27:38 am

Mini-Update.

Spent about an hour or so yesterday sketching up brackets for the steering column . . . am in the process of drawing them now for production.

Hopefully, If I'm lucky I can get them ready for this weekend but, that said, my new steering wheel STILL hasn't shipped yet. Not happy with Summit about that.

Also fired her up with the exhaust box-thingy fitted.

Sounds good. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Deceptively quiet from behind, loud-ish from the front and loud (but not terrible - IMO) from the sides.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 04, 2013, 08:43:04 am

Big upz to Ian for popping over last night and assisting in getting the one dimension I missed on Tuesday.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 07, 2013, 01:26:09 pm

Works continues . . .

NOS is now 90% plumbed and wired. Just waiting for a new -6AN bottle cap, blow-down tube and purge kit (should be here this coming week) to "complete".

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2287_zpscd1076a5.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2289_zps01ee8494.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2288_zps64b150ea.jpg)

Raised the Fuel pressure to 6psi. New fuel line fitted with inline gauge - one of my better ideas I reckon.

One of the last remaining jobs was the door cards . . . First I had to be able to actually shut the doors from sitting inside the car . . . .

The door :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2284_zps8491deaf.jpg)

The plate with a crush-nut tacked on :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2285_zpsf522871c.jpg)

One of those Chavvy "tow straps" being used for something cool :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2286_zps31a02a4a.jpg)

It'll all come together when the door cards are fitted . . . . but I hit a snag with that . . . the plastic rivets I got were too short.

Ian had a idea of how to use them differently to get round it but they need longer screws (now on order).

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Attacked the steering (again).

Got one bracket ready for welding on Tuesday . . . will test fit that one and then prepare the next bracket . . . . Hopefully thet'll be both welded, painted and ready to go on this next weekend.

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In other news Summit STILL haven't dispatched my new steering wheel.

Not happy.

Will be writing a email to them later. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)

Finally a (really crap) video taken yesterday while we were testing the fuel pressure . . . . She was idling exactly where I want her to be ~500RPM.

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(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/th_VIDEO0162_zps4b088b39.jpg)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 07, 2013, 04:24:25 pm

it's coming along nicely now :)

Video I took (45mb so will take a while to load)

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Post by: F Body on April 07, 2013, 05:10:23 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

Video I took (45mb so will take a while to load)

You aren't kidding 7 mins (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Sounds like some sort of awesome tank (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on April 08, 2013, 11:54:42 am

Where does that nitrous line disappear as it looks like it heads down towards the headers. As cool a route as possible is advisable otherwise you'll end up with gas in the lines not liquid. Earl's at Silverstone should be a one stop shop for any adapters or elbows you need.

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Post by: ianjpage on April 08, 2013, 03:50:07 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Where does that nitrous line disappear as it looks like it heads down towards the headers.

It goes from the solenoid, over the valve cover, then attach's to the chasis and follows the line of the fuel pipe down and under the car, as far as feasibly possible from the heat!

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Post by: Roadkill on April 08, 2013, 05:48:10 pm

As Ian says, apart from running the line in the car it couldn't be further away.

There's places where it's closer than I'd like to the headers and exhaust but generally it's a good distance. The purge kit will get rid of vapour after standing, also.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 09, 2013, 03:49:50 pm

The Nitrous stuff I ordered from Summit arrived in one week (just 5 working days !!)

Epic !

Was surprised at the length of the blow-down tube . . . It looked short in the pics and I was concerned that it wouldn't reach where I needed it to go - shouldn't be an issue, though.

Purge kit looks simple, too, I think Ian's already run the wiring for that. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Pity the steering wheel is on back order - Mental note: Write email to Summit.

Got the first of the steering brackets welded up earlier - looks good . . . needs some paint but I'll wait until it's test-fitted first. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 09, 2013, 03:52:29 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

Video I took (45mb so will take a while to load)

ROADHOUSE !

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That p!sses all over the crappy video I took - I'll be needing a copy of that. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on April 09, 2013, 04:56:37 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

Video I took (45mb so will take a while to load)

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Thats sounds Mean!!

Quoting: Roadkill

ROADHOUSE !

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Post by: Roadkill on April 10, 2013, 10:34:58 am

Fitted the -6AN bottle nut to finish the NOS plumbing inside the car last night. Also fitted the blow-off cap and offered up the tube . . will probably drill the hole in the floor pan for that tonight and get that done, too.

Am considering sourcing some longer 1/8" x 22swg copper tube for the purge kit as I don't think the 12" length NOS supply with it will be enough to get it where I want it.

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Need to offer it up, really.

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Also, as I had time, primered and painted the first steering bracket - ready for fitting.

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Post by: Andy on April 10, 2013, 10:58:14 am

Nos really confuses me.

So you have the solenoid wired in so that it only opens at WOT, but do you also have to have extra fuel on tap as well? If so, is there a separate solenoid for this with another fuel line?

/noob

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Post by: Roadkill on April 10, 2013, 11:10:47 am

Quoting: Andy

Nos really confuses me.

Titsy lent me a book but I haven't touched it yet . . . I'm learning the basics as I go.

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Quoting: Andy

So you have the solenoid wired in so that it only opens at WOT

Yes, my kit has a micro switch (visible in one of the pics above) that activates the solenoids.
Particularly useful for a car with manual transmission, IMO.

Quoting: Andy

do you also have to have extra fuel on tap as well?

Yes. One solenoid for NOS, one for extra fuel.

Quoting: Andy

If so, is there a separate solenoid for this with another fuel line?

Yes. In one of the pics above you can make out the second fuel line (there's a gauge for each fuel line).

My fuel pump can deliver enough for both lines so I have two lines coming from my regulator.

Belt and braces would be to run two pumps in case one fails but that's another chunk of cash at the moment . . . .

Quoting: Andy

/noob

Not really - you now know as much as me !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Andy on April 10, 2013, 11:18:35 am

Ah, well thats not too bad then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

We were talking about NOS on saturday at the Pod, one guy there was telling me last season his WOT switch either got stuck or the solenoid malfunctioned, I don't know the full ins and outs of how, but the result was the bottle not shutting off without him knowing, ended up emptying its contents into the inlet manifold. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 10, 2013, 11:41:04 am

Quoting: Roadkill

The Nitrous stuff I ordered from Summit arrived in one week (just 5 working days !!)

Epic !

Was surprised at the length of the blow-down tube . . . It looked short in the pics and I was concerned that it wouldn't reach where I needed it to go - shouldn't be an issue, though.

Purge kit looks simple, too, I think Ian's already run the wiring for that.

Pity the steering wheel is on back order - Mental note: Write email to Summit.

Got the first of the steering brackets welded up earlier - looks good . . . needs some paint but I'll wait until it's test-fitted first.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) cool - least that stuff turned up PDQ!!

Purge kit should be easy as the wire is already there, just needs finishing.

Quoting: Roadkill

Fitted the -6AN bottle nut to finish the NOS plumbing inside the car last night. Also fitted the blow-off cap and offered up the tube . . will probably drill the hole in the floor pan for that tonight and get that done, too.

Am considering sourcing some longer 1/8" x 22swg copper tube for the purge kit as I don't think the 12" length NOS supply with it will be enough to get it where I want it.

Need to offer it up, really.

Also, as I had time, primered and painted the first steering bracket - ready for fitting.

Cool, least the main nitrous line is finished then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) sounds nice and easy for the blow down then!

hmm, 12" may be enough but as you say, offer up and see jobby!

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Post by: Roadkill on April 10, 2013, 11:54:50 am

Quoting: Andy

one guy there was telling me last season his WOT switch either got stuck or the solenoid malfunctioned

The whole system should have an "arming" switch.

I'm sure people do things differently but I'd be one who'd disarm the system and close the bottle valve immediately after the run.

Even if you've got an electrical failure, ultimately the valve will stop anything !

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Post by: Roadkill on April 11, 2013, 12:49:44 pm

Scuppered by the steering AGAIN ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

It's certainly teaching me a few things. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)

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Minor progress but not enough to be able to get it done this weekend . . .

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Post by: FUBAR on April 11, 2013, 01:04:33 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Scuppered by the steering AGAIN !

How did you get on with that Puller Kit?

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Post by: Roadkill on April 11, 2013, 02:05:51 pm

Yeah, great. Ian took the steering wheel off with no issues while I was doing something else.

Looks like I'll need to remove the entire steering column in order to sort my steering issues out . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 11, 2013, 07:10:29 pm

Holy $hit - 260 bucks for a bottle heater ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 11, 2013, 08:37:02 pm

yeah they not cheap (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 11, 2013, 08:40:04 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

How did you get on with that Puller Kit?

Quoting: Roadkill

Yeah, great. Ian took the steering wheel off with no issues while I was doing something else.

As dean says it worked really well and pulled the wheel off no issue's - very good kit with all the various sizes / bolts etc.

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Post by: Andy on April 12, 2013, 01:01:43 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Holy $hit - 260 bucks for a bottle heater !

No good?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wizards-of-NOS-WoN-Nitrous-Oxide-Car-Bottle-Heater-/160669165250?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2568a0e6c2

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Post by: Roadkill on April 12, 2013, 08:14:13 am

Quoting: Andy

No good?

It does work out a little cheaper ($260=£175, then there's duty and P&P) . . . but, looking at the fittings that come with it I'd have to buy some extra bits to connect it to my system.

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It's really not essential as I don't plan to run the NOS yet . . . I was just hoping to get it all out of the way, now.

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I must admit - the W.o.N connectors and switches are far superior to the cheap crap you get with N.O.S stuff . . . . I haven't used any of the switches that came with the bits I've bought, opting to use those I fitted under Titsy's direction a couple of years ago !

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Post by: Roadkill on April 12, 2013, 08:59:23 am

Interesting . . . .

I thought I started pulling her apart in late 2006 . . . . . but based on :

Quoting: Roadkill on the 30th April, 2007

Uber productive day on Saturday (the 28th April 2007) !!!

Dropped the axle off the car, stripped the brakes, panhard, LCA, and brake pipes off.

Removed the (nearly new) rear springs and shocks and cleaned them up as I'm sticking them on ebay, too.

The axle's in the Chav'scort waiting to go to either Hauser or Websters to have the LSD fitted . . .

She's looking very sorry for herself at the moment but this is the beginning of something major and I'm feeling pretty good about it.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/Camaro013.jpg)

I actually started nearly SIX years ago, not seven.

Not as bad as I first thought AND it means it's STILL possible to get her finished within 6 years.

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Have just fired a email off to Summit about my order.

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Post by: Titsy on April 12, 2013, 11:03:26 am

Quoting: Andy

We were talking about NOS on saturday at the Pod, one guy there was telling me last season his WOT switch either got stuck or the solenoid malfunctioned, I don't know the full ins and outs of how, but the result was the bottle not shutting off without him knowing, ended up emptying its contents into the inlet manifold.

I would suspect it was a solenoid stuck open as any sensible setup would have three electrical switch point to fire the solenoids: a master arm, WOT and finally either a driver switch for those who like to fly by the seat of their pants or a window switch/controller that fires the solenoids in a certain rpm range, this can also be progressive to feather in the extra power rather than hit the drive-train with a sledgehammer....

Solenoids need to be regularly maintained and an in-line filter should be used to prevent any debris getting into the solenoids and making them stick open. If your really belt and braces then you can ad an extra solenoid in series with the nitrous and another extra in parallel with the fuel. this way if one sticks open on the on the nitrous line the other will still close. and if one fails to open on the fuel the other still will and you won't end up with a lean condition. the worst case scenario is that you end up running rich, which you'll notice fairly quick won't cause any major problems so long as you kill the fuel pump before it floods the intake. That said, regular maintenance and using filters should prevent 99.9% of potential issues.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 12, 2013, 11:32:01 am

The NOS kit I brought has an integral filter in one of the AN fittings for the Nitrous and an inline filter for the fuel, FYI.

I didn't use the fuel filter they supplied as I already run twin filters before the regulator.

Also FYI, Titsy, My bottle has the "Third gen" Hi-Flo valve and the blow-off adapter and blow-down tube was a straight bolt-on.

Apparently the cap and tube work on all 2nd and 3rd gen valves . . . the 3rd gen ones have "Made in Italy" stamped on them . . . .

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Post by: Titsy on April 12, 2013, 11:35:48 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Also FYI, Titsy, My bottle has the "Third gen" Hi-Flo valve and the blow-off adapter and blow-down tube was a straight bolt-on.

Apparently the cap and tube work on all 2nd and 3rd gen valves . . . the 3rd gen ones have "Made in Italy" stamped on them . . . .

Fair doos... I replaced my valves rather than just fit the blow-off adapter so I had extra ports to fit a pressure gauge direct to to bottle (so I know the pressure without having to open the valve to an inline gauge), and so that I should fit a pressure sensor/switch to run a closed loop bottle heater.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 12, 2013, 11:45:17 am

Yeah, that is a distinct benefit . . . the inline gauge doesn't bother me too much but the switch for the heater is a major plus.

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Post by: F Body on April 12, 2013, 11:50:28 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Saturday (the 28th April 2007) !!!

6 Years (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Seems like only a year or two ago that you were doing burnouts at Billing (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/drive.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 12, 2013, 11:58:44 am

I think that was '05 !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

EDIT - No more one-wheel-squeels anymore, though . . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on April 14, 2013, 06:29:16 pm

Myself and Ian managed to get a few bits done yesterday before the rain came in and also fitted in a couple of hours this afternoon . . . .

So in no particular order :

Here's the (first ?) steering bracket I had made up :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2296_zpsd1876e8c.jpg)

And here it is on the car (yes I know the engine bay needs a clean).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2302_zpsff5a9993.jpg)

No further progress on the steering except that the main column was removed today in order for an additional section to (hopefully) be welded onto the bottom (will make more sense later) . . .

Next up an update on the outside of the car . . . .

I don't think there's a picture of the new exits so here's one (obviously a mirror image the other side) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2303_zps1e2b8932.jpg)

Also, because I'm a tart, I allowed one further addition to the exterior, badge-wise . . . It's pretty small and subtle :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2314_zpseee935d9.jpg)

Here's the NOS bottle, gauge and blow-down tube fitted and finished . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2300_zps8a3e4fed.jpg)

Here's the bottle with some clothes on :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2301_zps4d1bf0f1.jpg)

Next up, is the NOS system. Now all plumbed, wired and solenoids dry-tested. The recent addition is the purge kit (I ordered a new bit of pipe so I could route the purge-tube better).

This is a piccy to show the routing of the NOS line from under the car (FYI, Titsy) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2308_zpsc6eb5a21.jpg)

Here's some others :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2309_zps58954965.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2311_zpsbcc8bbb5.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2310_zps5e21485a.jpg)

Air cleaner back on :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2312_zps946505f9.jpg)

Purge-tube poking out of the hood :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2315_zpsa5c2af0a.jpg)

Lastly the door cards test-fitted a second time . . . This is a spare so ignore the rough drilling ! :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2313_zps0a9ae61a.jpg)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 14, 2013, 07:52:34 pm

coming along well, won't be long till it drives on the road, well to the first speed bump anyhow lol (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 15, 2013, 07:38:20 am

I'll be interested to how you finish off the interior door-top where it meets the window. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 15, 2013, 08:14:29 am

Ahhh, yes. You will. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Jamieg285 on April 16, 2013, 11:33:39 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I think that was '05 !!!

Must have been '06. Alex was born in July '05, but he was at Billing when you did the burnouts.

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Post by: Roadkill on April 16, 2013, 12:31:43 pm

Fair enough. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Unfortunately I had to work late last night so only managed to fit in an hour or so on the door cards . . .

Got the driver's side all drilled, filed, de-burred and rubbed down ready for paint . . . got the initial drilling done on the passenger's side (there's one less hole this side which will save me a good 10 minutes)

Hopefully, weather permitting, I should have both ready for paint and maybe even painted tonight.

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I also dropped the main steering column into the fab shop for some "work" yesterday to try and solve/reduce the steering woes !

Lastly, got an update from Summit - the bits I need are now scheduled to be with them mid JUNE !!! - 3 months after they originally said, so clearly I'm p!ssed off and intend to attempt to cancel the order.

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Post by: Andy on April 16, 2013, 01:56:50 pm

Rk - out of interest, how much did you pay for your LT1 engine? Seen a 350 4 bolt main, and I'm thinking it'd make a nice project, just no idea how much these things are worth. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 16, 2013, 03:01:27 pm

Effectively I got paid for my LT1.

Myself and Rob acquired a LT1/T56 powered Firebird for something like £1,100 (so £550 each) - which was a good price.

After breaking the car for parts (Rob managed to get good money for most of the parts) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) it ended up only owing me £250-300 at most.

I then sold my old 305ci and freshly refurbish T5 plus some other crap for £1300 !

So. You could say someone paid me £1000 for me to have a LT1 & T56 !!!

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A "fairly standard" 350ci you should be able to pick up for around £400-500 depending on condition/age/included goodies etc, etc . . . 4-Bolt's are more desirable but I've not noticed them really demand anything more, money-wise.

Gen I SBC's are more common and have far more goodies available for them, but Gen II's (ie the LT1) are lighter (if from an F-Body) and use slightly more modern techniques to achieve more power. They often tend to be cheaper as they're an "unknown" to many (who oddly seem to loathe them) but the bottom-end's are basically the same.

I've never regretted going with a Gen II - especially as Manual transmissions seem more common with these.

Don't forget also, the a 2-bolt can quite easily be made a 4-bolter especially by someone who knows his way around tooling.

EDIT - It's said that a well prepped 2-Bolt 350, with cast crank is good for up to 500-600 Hp.

Unless you're going forced induction or adding serious giggle juice I wouldn't worry.

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Post by: Andy on April 16, 2013, 03:09:56 pm

Just saw it going on Rods'n'Sods, only in Oxford, 4 Bolt, comes with all the accs, for £500. I'm curious.

Thing is, I have no idea, even I do build one up, how the hell to intergrate it with my car. Will keep researching on Thirdgen.org!

Not exactly a well written ad:
http://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/forum/stuff-sale/chevy-350-4-bolt-main-block-79322

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Post by: Roadkill on April 16, 2013, 03:15:18 pm

I'm guessing yours is a centre-bolt valve cover type at the moment ?

These are basically what the LT1 is based on . . . The Gen I has the much squarer valve covers.

Anything's do-able, though, I'm not sure an older SBC would work if you're running all the smog stuff ???

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Post by: ianjpage on April 16, 2013, 08:23:07 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Unfortunately I had to work late last night so only managed to fit in an hour or so on the door cards . . .

Got the driver's side all drilled, filed, de-burred and rubbed down ready for paint . . . got the initial drilling done on the passenger's side (there's one less hole this side which will save me a good 10 minutes)

Hopefully, weather permitting, I should have both ready for paint and maybe even painted tonight.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) cool sounds like good progress overall though!

Quoting: Roadkill

Lastly, got an update from Summit - the bits I need are now scheduled to be with them mid JUNE !!! - 3 months after they originally said, so clearly I'm p!ssed off and intend to attempt to cancel the order.

WTF they really are taking the piss now, they just seem to be putting it back and back...wonder when you would actually get it if you left it!!

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Post by: Roadkill on April 16, 2013, 09:22:56 pm

Will be sending Summit an email tomorrow assuming I get the time.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Anyway, I got the other door card ready to go ... they're both scotch-brited, degreased and ready for paint.

Gonna keep my fingers crossed, hope for good weather tomorrow morning and try to paint them before work.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 17, 2013, 09:15:07 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Gonna keep my fingers crossed, hope for good weather tomorrow morning and try to paint them before work.

Well, cold, damp and windy isn't ideal for spray-painting but I took it !

Panels are painted and drying in a nice warm garage . . . I checked on them just as I was leaving and they're wrinkling nicely !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Here's a pic from last night - both ready for paint (driver's side at the top) :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2317_zpsd2c5ef3f.jpg)

I'll give them until tomorrow night to harden . . . hopefully the weather's good and I'll get them fitted, then.

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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 17, 2013, 02:48:19 pm

It amazes me how you manage to fit this all in (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

Impressive momentum to finish the project too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I am still (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif) for the door-top finishing...

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Post by: Andy on April 17, 2013, 02:58:42 pm

Scotch briting ally by hand has to be up there with the most annoying stuff to get on your hands.

Looking good though! Are you going with a crackle finish?

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Post by: Roadkill on April 17, 2013, 09:12:24 pm

Quoting: Andy

Scotch briting ally by hand has to be up there with the most annoying stuff to get on your hands.

Yeah, constantly reminding yourself not to touch ANYTHING (especially white door frames, white doors and freshly bathed children) !!!

Quoting: Andy

Are you going with a crackle finish?

Ta-dah !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2320_zps5421f8e0.jpg)

Apologies for the picture quality . . . I think my phone struggled to focus on the pattern !

Quoting: Cunning Plan

I am still (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif) for the door-top finishing...

The plan is to re-use the original plastic trim . . . albeit it has to be fitted a little differently.
Originally it had plastic bosses which went through the door card and had twist-nuts on to secure . . . Unfortunately 90% of the plastic bosses sheared off when removing (or attempting to remove) the twist-nuts.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

I plan to drill through the plastic (in as few places as possible) and use identical screws as used in the standard 3rd-gen dashboard to secure it with . . .

Should look O.K.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

I also need to re-fit the mirror joystick to the drivers door card (that is the extra big hole on that card).

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Post by: Roadkill on April 18, 2013, 02:52:18 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I also dropped the main steering column into the fab shop for some "work" yesterday to try and solve/reduce the steering woes !

You couldn't make it up. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

The fab shop we use went into liquidation last night. The administrators are in and have changed the locks.

It's looking like I now will have to firstly prove that the steering column is mine and then wait f*** knows how long to (hopefully) get it back !!!

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Post by: ianjpage on April 18, 2013, 04:59:20 pm

You got to be kidding .... you just couldnt make it up hope you manage to get it back soon!

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Post by: Roadkill on April 18, 2013, 05:13:59 pm

I'm on the road tomorrow scouting for a new fabrication shop in the Beds/Bucks/Herts area . . . we put through £££,£££'s a year with this supplier and now all of our work has now ground to a halt !

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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 18, 2013, 08:38:30 pm

Oh wow fooook (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/mad.gif)

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Post by: Andy on April 18, 2013, 08:58:49 pm

What sort of Fabbing? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 18, 2013, 10:12:03 pm

Good news - my steering column has been smuggled out .... but I don't know as yet whether the work was done or not ....

Andy. Where is your company based ? We need light to medium weight steel fabrication so cutting, welding some bending, too. Access to a paintline would be a bonus.
We use another company for the really heavy stuff.

I'll PM some more details of what we need when I'm at my P.C but last year we spent nearly a million on work like this ! It's all fairly easy stuff, too.

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Post by: Andy on April 19, 2013, 05:38:52 am

Based in Bourne End, Bucks.

We mainly do CNC Machining and the like, but we started out as a fabricators. Best bet is if you send over some example jobs and I'll see if we have the capacity.

We do have a paint room set up, for a component we make its perfect. We stove enamel most paints so depends on what type of paint you're expecting for a finish.

http://www.hutchinsondibley.com/ - I'm really sorry about the quality of this! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: EDGE on April 19, 2013, 09:13:39 am

dean might need a new fabricator but you guys need a new website... i can hook you up ;)

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Post by: Andy on April 19, 2013, 09:43:11 am

Haha! Now now! That website has probably earnt my company more money than any other method of publicity. It's all down to the random page with letters and numbers on it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: EDGE on April 19, 2013, 09:46:22 am

I didn't say it didn't work ;)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 19, 2013, 11:30:47 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Good news - my steering column has been smuggled out .... but I don't know as yet whether the work was done or not ....

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)

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Post by: F Body on April 19, 2013, 11:41:10 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Good news - my steering column has been smuggled out ....

That's very good news, those Administrators usually have the place locked up like Fort Knox and don't even let a paper clip out, unless you pay up front. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 19, 2013, 07:34:50 pm

The thing I had going for me was that the guy I dealt with (former owner now manager) owns the building otherwise, yeah, i'd be fooked !

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Post by: Roadkill on April 22, 2013, 01:23:51 pm

Still no more news on the steering column. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Myself and Ian managed to get a little bit done on the door cards after Billing on Saturday, too . . . Albeit not entirely successful.

The cards themselves are on and the mirror plate (on the D/S) is fitted and connected, too.

We've fitted the new inner sweeps to the interior plastic trim but hit a snag on re-fitting the trim. Long story, cba. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on April 23, 2013, 08:55:30 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif) the column shows up soon!

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Post by: Roadkill on April 24, 2013, 01:01:32 pm

Just re-insured her . . . £215, fully comp @ 1500 miles per year, with ALL modifications listed (it took a while) !!!

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Post by: Roadkill on April 27, 2013, 07:00:53 pm

Got round the issue with the door cards . . . It was the way the new inner sweeps fitted using screws . . . the back protruded so I ground them off !

The top parts then clipped in as they should but the "fuzzy" bit near the mirror stood way too proud and caused the window to Jam in the front rubber when closing ???

It happened on both doors so was no coincident . . . .

We removed said fuzzy bits and everything went smoothly from there . . .

Here's a pic of the painted doors & cards and original top trims fitted.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2341_zps98373cb0.jpg)

The next one shows the "pull" strap mocked up (I need to order longer bolts for these).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2342_zps629bee06.jpg)

The last one gives you an idea of how, despite being completely different from stock, they work fairly well . . . . at least, IMHO, and that's all that matters.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2343_zpsb557bd34.jpg)

Apart from getting the bolts to fit the pull handles I'm utterly at a stand still without the steering columns back !!

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Post by: F Body on April 28, 2013, 06:04:58 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Here's a pic of the painted doors & cards and original top trims fitted.

They look good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Given your excellent attention to detail, what about the enlarged hole for the door handles (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

You could fix some rubber flaps onto the door and then put the door card over then (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 28, 2013, 09:23:06 am

Ah, that bit isn't quite finished yet. I need to fix the pull straps securely first to see how the panel sits. Then I'll cut a small plate to slot into the visible hole.

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Post by: ianjpage on April 28, 2013, 10:45:59 am

they do look good those door cards with the top fitted now (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 07, 2013, 12:12:38 pm

O.K, Summit kept messing me about on the delivery for the steering hub so I sent an email telling them where to go . . .

They refunded me in full this morning.

I've now sent inquiries out to another company I've found who sell them (Amazon do them but won't ship to the U.K ! )

I have the steering column back with the extension part . . . It's better, but not perfect . . . . I need to offer it up to see how I proceed with it . . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on May 08, 2013, 10:33:46 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I've now sent inquiries out to another company I've found who sell them (Amazon do them but won't ship to the U.K ! )

No reply from the U.S company BUT on doing further Googling and trying variations of the part number and manufacturer I found them for sale on Amazon UK !

The total cost via Summit for the hub, wheel, shipping and duty was £229 but through Amazon it was £269 (inc delivery) - £40 more but I did opt for a more expensive and better wheel because they didn't have the one I originally was gonna go for.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Dunno - They reckon I should have it within 2 weeks but I'm not holding my breath !!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Thanks to Ryan, too, for assistance yesterday evening - plus it's always nice to see Poppy !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/doggie.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 16, 2013, 11:47:45 am

The steering wheel and quick-release have been shipped, apparently, and should be with me on 1st June.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Time's starting to get away from me again . . . the weather's been crap, various other things are adding delays here and there and I'm away on holiday for a week next week.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

I have, hopefully, got all the DVLA-related issues sorted, though. I've compiled a letter and had it signed to authenticate the changes made . . . there's still a question over the serial number on the engine but hopefully I've got around this.

I'll find out shortly . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Am hoping to spend a few hours on the steering column over the weekend . . hopefully get that a bit closer to finished.

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Post by: ianjpage on May 16, 2013, 04:24:03 pm

here's hoping that the delivery day is a real one this time!!

Least sounds like some progress on the divvyla front then, hopefully you get something done to steering!

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Post by: Roadkill on May 28, 2013, 04:26:25 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

The steering wheel and quick-release have been shipped, apparently, and should be with me on 1st June.

Steering wheel has arrived !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quick-release has not (yet) !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

No further physical progress to report. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

However . . . .

Quoting: Roadkill

I have, hopefully, got all the DVLA-related issues sorted, though. I've compiled a letter and had it signed to authenticate the changes made . . . there's still a question over the serial number on the engine but hopefully I've got around this.

I'll find out shortly . . . . .

This all now appears to be sorted . . . the car is now officially classed as a Chevrolet Camaro (but still not recognised as a Z28 !!!), Black, 2-Seater, with a 350ci Engine.

Yay ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Andy on May 28, 2013, 04:35:45 pm

Is it a 350? Thought it was 400 in there?

Wouldn't be worrying about the Z28, that's only like having either Zetec, Titanium or LX written on there.

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Post by: Roadkill on May 28, 2013, 08:41:11 pm

Quoting: Andy

Is it a 350? Thought it was 400 in there?

No, LT1's are a 350ci.

383 is as big as I'd go . . . big blocks are make the nose too heavy for a third gen.

Quoting: Andy

Wouldn't be worrying about the Z28, that's only like having either Zetec, Titanium or LX written on there.

Yes and no.

The base model in 83 was a crappy 4-banger and mine was the Z28-H.O option (top of the line before the IROC came along) so it makes quite a bit of a difference.

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Post by: Jamieg285 on May 30, 2013, 11:41:00 am

Quoting: Roadkill

383 is as big as I'd go . . . big blocks are make the nose too heavy for a third gen.

SBCs went up to 400 in stock form, commonly upgraded to 406 with oversized pistons.

One day mine will get the rebuild it deserves.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 30, 2013, 12:05:15 pm

If anything ever goes bang I'll certainly build a 383 stroker LT1 . . . maybe go overbored, too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on May 31, 2013, 03:52:59 pm

Kind of a "false" update as I did this work about two weeks ago but I've only just uploaded the pics . . .

The coating on my interior column was flaky and rubbish . . . also the outer union was a bit battered.

I used plastic primer on the inner (err, plastic) parts and then Hammerited it after. The union I just re-coated in hammerite.

The plan is to get some done tomorrow morning / early afternoon but my time this weekend is very limited with everything else going on . . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2405_zps83c5ff7e.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2406_zpsda68f27b.jpg)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on May 31, 2013, 06:22:06 pm

That's a great finish for Hamerite (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 02, 2013, 07:37:37 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wall.gif)

You couldn't make this $hit up !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wall.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on June 02, 2013, 09:10:00 pm

Not had the best day in the end did we dean (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 03, 2013, 08:44:07 am

No. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 03, 2013, 09:10:58 am

Some link dumps :

The starter I have :

http://www.jegs.com/i/Chevrolet-Performance/809/12361146/10002/-1?parentProductId=761610

The method we used to test (basically) but some conclusions at the end . . . albeit not very conclusive as mine came out and span pretty fast but still doesn't appear to work !!

http://easyautodiagnostics.com/starter_motor_test/starter_bench_test_1.php

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Post by: Andy on June 03, 2013, 09:24:15 am

So what actually happened, or by the sounds of it, didn't?

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Post by: Roadkill on June 03, 2013, 10:04:07 am

The steering has been holding me up for months but I finally got something that looked like it would work. Hopefully.

Ryan had assisted on Saturday and I continued getting the steering column drilled and assembled.

And here it is :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2534_zps84e6017b.jpg)

(A major improvement on the Spohn offering. That had mild-steel DD shafts and grub-screw-and-nut fixings. I replaced the shafts with all stainless steel and used A2 (stainless) dome-heads with thread-lock not only for appearance but also for corrosion resistance and the dome-heads will resist snagging on things much more than the nasty grub screws would.)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2536_zps3276e90d.jpg)

The plan for Sunday was simple. Spend half hour putting the steering column on, then start her up and do some low speed tests of the steering.

The steering bit went O.K but she wouldn't start ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Hours of head scratching and testing later and still no idea . . . we think it's the starter but it seems to behave normally when removed and bench-tested.

???

And he's a picture of Titsy getting all confused as to which is the correct way to sit in a seat. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2537_zps77ba7f67.jpg)

Thanks to Ryan and Titsy for assistance over the weekend.

Let's hope for some proper progress soon !

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EDIT - I did get the interior door handles fitted on Saturday. A 5-minute job but that actually went smoothly !! - and it's a job "off the list".

Yay me !

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Post by: Titsy on June 03, 2013, 11:49:30 am

Will be over straight from work on Wednesday for round two if that's ok. If you can remove the starter and retest before then that will give us a head-start. At the moment it is either and dodgy motor, excess current draw somewhere in the system (although I think I've ruled this out), or a volt drop with loading somewhere between the cutout and the starter. If it's the last one were going to need to get at the junction on the bulkhead...

EDIT

I also want to try hot wiring the starter with the bulkhead connector on the driver side disconnected. I'me still suspicious that the fault manifested itself after the removed the steering column, and that there might be a miss-connection or break as a result that is somehow causing the fault.

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Post by: Roadkill on June 03, 2013, 12:10:36 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Will be over straight from work on Wednesday

Cool, ta. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Titsy

If you can remove the starter and retest before then that will give us a head-start

Assuming Ryan's free to help lift off the bonnet ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

EDIT - In fact, Ryan, I'd like to take the battery out of the equation - can I drop it off and connect it up to your super-duper charger - make sure that is all O.K ???

Quoting: Titsy

I'm still suspicious that the fault manifested itself after the removed the steering column

Ditto, in fact very suspicious. But didn't we bypass that ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Do you want me to try and open that black box up on the bulkhead - that'll save about an hour !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on June 03, 2013, 01:01:17 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

EDIT - In fact, Ryan, I'd like to take the battery out of the equation - can I drop it off and connect it up to your super-duper charger - make sure that is all O.K ???

Can do, if you want to do that today i'll be in between 5:15 and about 6:15 as then i'm out for a while.

That way it can have a day hooked up to the charger and I could come over early Tuesday evening with the Battery, we can then test that, and if unsuccessfull help take the starter off again?

Mental note: Find the clip on Terminals for the charger as soon as I get in.(I currently use the permenant attachment for the IROC)

~~Dean, can you triple check that the charger works with your type of battery this afternoon please as I can't download PDF files (i.e. the Manual) here and can't seem to see the links on Google.~~[

The Charger is a:

Ctek Multi XS7000 Battery Charger

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Post by: FUBAR on June 03, 2013, 01:05:03 pm

Having said that I've just read this

http://www.ctekchargers.co.uk/ctek-mxs-70.php

Seems like charging for Optima AGM and GEL batteries is designed in.
~~There's a distinct possibility that your charger may well be having issues with your battery based on whats thats saying?...~~

Solved, taken from another forum:
http://forums.finalgear.com/questions-and-answers/special-battery-charger-needed-for-optima-batteries-46176/

"Hello, I noticed your conversation regarding our batteries and wanted to offer some assistance. You do not need a special battery charger for our batteries. Normal battery chargers will work just fine, although it's important to clarify that our batteries are lead-acid batteries in a SpiralCell, AGM design. “Gel” or “Gel/AGM” charger settings will not fully-charge our batteries and could damage them over time.

We do recommend a maximum charging rate of 10 amps, 13.8-15 volts for regular charging. For float-charging, we recommend a 1 amp maximum rate, 13.2-13.8 volts. If anyone has any other questions about our batteries, I'll do my best to answer them.

Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc. "

and from the same person further down the page:

"We do not “officially” endorse specific maintainers or chargers, but we will supply information about devices that are advertised as being compatible with AGM batteries, including the CTEK MULTI US 7000 or 7002" (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 03, 2013, 01:34:24 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

Ctek Multi XS7000 Battery Charger

This the one ?

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/battery-chargers-conditioners/ctek-clearance-multi-xs-7000-battery-charger

May have to make this a purchase at some point soon . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Quoting: FUBAR

Can do, if you want to do that today i'll be in between 5:15 and about 6:15 as then i'm out for a while.

Hmm. I'll be pushing it to get there by 6.15pm . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) I'll see if I can get away a few minutes earlier.

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Post by: FUBAR on June 03, 2013, 01:38:34 pm

Yes thats the one.

6:35pm latest (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on June 03, 2013, 01:47:57 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Ditto, in fact very suspicious. But didn't we bypass that ?

Not exactly... The rest of the always live stuff was still connected of the junction on the bulkhead. We could try the same test with the drivers side bulkhead connector disconnected, that would isolate any fault at the column...

Quoting: Roadkill

Do you want me to try and open that black box up on the bulkhead - that'll save about an hour !!!

yup (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

It could also be a cable or connector degradation from the bulkhead junction to the starter.

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Post by: ianjpage on June 03, 2013, 02:12:13 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Cool looks very nice now (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) take it doesn't look too "floppy" now then ?

Quoting: Roadkill

And he's a picture of Titsy getting all confused as to which is the correct way to sit in a seat.

LOL easily confused that lad (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

I did get the interior door handles fitted on Saturday. A 5-minute job but that actually went smoothly !! - and it's a job "off the list".

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) cool least that is one off the (hopefully small) list!

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Post by: Roadkill on June 03, 2013, 02:57:12 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

6:35pm latest

That's do-able. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

O.K, there's a plan, then . . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on June 05, 2013, 09:35:55 am

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Panic averted !!

Before stripping the starter off again last night for more testing myself and Ryan decided to chuck the freshly charged Optima back on and "give it a go . . "

Now I'd like to think that neither myself, Ryan or Titsy are idiots but I did feel a little stupid when she fired up first time.

It still makes little sense to me as we were trying to start her from the Mondeo with the voltage gauge showing a solid 14V and that didn't work . . . when she started last night the Optima was showing just over 10V on the gauge but she started fine.

??

It must be something to do with the current or the pixies.

Titsy did "clean" a few connections that he said weren't really dirty . . . Dunno. But it's sorted.

What all this meant was that I could take her for a short low-speed test drive !

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Gears all seemed fine, handbrake is a little weak (but I knew that), steering is a little notchy but better then I expected. The steering lock-to-lock seems limited so I need to adjust the tracking and see how she goes.
Driver's seat needs to com forwards as that's one HEAVY clutch.

But apart from that she went well . . . got her into third. Laid a bit of rubber (surprisingly easy !!!). Happy days.

I'll be forming a snagging list shortly . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

EDIT - Water pump doesn't seem to be working - that'll be job number one.

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Post by: ianjpage on June 05, 2013, 09:39:18 am

Excellent news (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif) at least it is working now and it's driveable(ish) and can steer itself !!

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Post by: Incursus on June 05, 2013, 12:10:44 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/drive.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on June 05, 2013, 12:31:56 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Now I'd like to think that neither myself, Ryan or Titsy are idiots but I did feel a little stupid when she fired up first time.

It certainly was a suprise thats for sure (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) I'm just really glad it worked, i'm equally glad that my Battery Charger has also paid for itself once again (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif) even if it did have to get a little hot under the collar to do so.

As you say, a snagging list to sort out now with a few bits on it then hopefully Happy days (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif).

Link dump, this is the next one up from my charger which i'd recommend you get because of the heat generated by mine when hooked up to your Battery. (this is the newer model, the older Multi XS10000 will also be fine if its a bit cheaper)
http://www.ctekchargers.co.uk/ctek-mxs-10.php

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Post by: Roadkill on June 05, 2013, 01:26:21 pm

Quoting: FUBAR

Link dump, this is the next one up from my charger which i'd recommend you get because of the heat generated by mine when hooked up to your Battery

Cheapest I've found is here :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121100147228?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Also thinking of getting this for a neat install on the rear panel - like what we discussed last night only this appears to be specifically designed for such an install.

http://www.ctekchargers.co.uk/ctek-56380.php

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Post by: Roadkill on June 07, 2013, 09:57:13 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Both purchased.

That's my birthday prezzie sorted. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 17, 2013, 09:28:02 am

The Quick release hub is back in stock. I ordered it immediately on Friday and it's now in the country and waiting for local delivery !

What could go wrong ?? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on June 17, 2013, 02:50:50 pm

lol (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif) lets hope it does actually arrive!!

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Post by: Roadkill on June 20, 2013, 11:24:20 am

Quick release hub is now all fitted ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Have also fitted the C-Tek plug-in panel, too.

Pics to follow.

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Post by: ianjpage on June 20, 2013, 11:48:40 am

excellent news - few more jobs done means nearer to MOT and driving time (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on June 20, 2013, 12:11:55 pm

Quoting: ianjpage

nearer to MOT and driving time

Not quite... You now don't have a horn button and so can't sound your horn!

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Post by: ianjpage on June 20, 2013, 01:13:32 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Not quite... You now don't have a horn button and so can't sound your horn!

Pah 2 mins wiring and that's sorted - caddy style LOL!!

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Post by: Roadkill on June 20, 2013, 05:10:20 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Not quite... You now don't have a horn button and so can't sound your horn!

The thought had occurred to me . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on June 25, 2013, 03:02:33 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

The thought had occurred to me . . .

Just ordered a momentary button for the horn . . .

Need new wiper blades for the MoT, too . . . .

Update from the weekend :

We measured the minimum ground clearance at 2 3/4" (70mm). Not sure what to make of that but I already have some unconventional plans if I'm stuck on getting her over speed-bumps . . . .

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Base-line timing is currently @ 8-9*, full mech @ 30* and with vacuum @ 3,500RPM is 37*.

All of this is lower than I was aiming for so we'll be having another stab at that soon.

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Still not happy with the steering. The geometry doesn't seem right so need to compare it to another Third Gen - Ryan you've been texted !!

Also it's noticeably "notchy" where the new meets the old. This is unavoidable and the worrying thing is it's probably 5 times better than if i'd used the Spohn supplied bar !.

I'm not happy though. Need to do some head scratching.

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Post by: Roadkill on June 28, 2013, 11:39:55 am

Info dump.

Steering specifications of 3.75 turns lock-to-lock; rack travel 5.25"; overall length 45 1/2 inches.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 02, 2013, 03:54:36 pm

Info dump :

Suggested Camber : 1* - 1/2* Negative L & R
Suggested Castor : 6* Positive
Tracking : 1/16" total Toe-in

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Post by: Roadkill on July 10, 2013, 12:15:47 pm

This outlines the reasons why she'll be going back to Power Steering

http://www.mkb.cc/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=2&topic=11949

Need to wait until payday as I can't burn money until I actually have it. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 10, 2013, 04:42:21 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Base-line timing is currently @ 8-9*, full mech @ 30* and with vacuum @ 3,500RPM is 37*.

All of this is lower than I was aiming for so we'll be having another stab at that soon.

Re this, link dump :

http://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-modifications/1561812-ignition-timing-lt1.html

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Post by: ianjpage on July 10, 2013, 05:12:27 pm

Hows the battery ......

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Post by: Roadkill on July 10, 2013, 07:41:00 pm

Hmm. Ask me again tomorrow. Hopefully I'll have better news.

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Post by: ianjpage on July 11, 2013, 07:55:27 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Hmm. Ask me again tomorrow. Hopefully I'll have better news.

Oh......

Quoting: ianjpage

Hows the battery ......

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Post by: Roadkill on July 11, 2013, 09:51:01 am

I had a suspicion that it might be the wrong battery somehow when I discovered this :

http://www.optimabatteries.co.uk/en/17-red-top-42-s.html

Especially the bit that says :

Quoting: OptimaBatteries

These batteries are designed for engine starting applications. They are not recommended or warranted for use in deep cycle applications.

But on further reading this is correct.

I left the battery overnight on charge on Tuesday night . . . Came down Wednesday morning to this :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2642_zpse0fde6fc.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/th_VIDEO0176_zps6b682550.jpg)

Battery was literally cooking and bubbling liquid out the top. Charger was on stage 7 which is charged but not enough to go into maintenance mode.

I checked the Voltage last night = 12.4V . . this morning it was 11.8V.

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I've sent Optima's U.K distributors an email explaining it all and asking for their advice as I don't want to be spending more money if this will happen again !!!

Some good luck would be nice about now . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 11, 2013, 01:00:19 pm

Oh crap (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) that's not good....

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Post by: Roadkill on July 12, 2013, 10:52:32 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I've sent Optima's U.K distributors an email explaining it all and asking for their advice

Their response (surprisingly) wasn't a sales pitch . . .

Quoting: OPTIMA UK

Hi Dean,
From what you say, it appears the battery has been left too long in a discharged state and has become sulphated . This will happen to any battery that has been allowed to become flat for a period of time.
All I can suggest is that you put it on charge again until it gets warm then take it off charge for a day to rest then repeat this procedure several times and you may find the battery recovers .
I have one at the moment which a customer replaced which did not charge and by doing the above several times is now usable again. Good Luck
For future use , any battery must be maintained at at lease 12.5volts when not in use or they will sulphate up.
Hope this is useful.
Regards,
David

-- PS.The charger you are using is one of the best budget range charges for the job.

Ironic as part of the sales pitch for Optima's is how they do so well in long periods without use !

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I'm going to leave it for another day or so and see what the voltage level is doing . . . if it's not holding I'll try what he says and go from there . . .

I suspect I know the outcome, though . . .

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Post by: ianjpage on July 12, 2013, 12:33:34 pm

Hmm not good but least they were semi-helpful in giving you something to try rather than just "need to buy a new one".

Fingers crossed it does work.....

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Post by: ianjpage on July 12, 2013, 12:34:47 pm

i assume the focus battery is OK in teh 'maro then??

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Post by: Roadkill on July 12, 2013, 01:19:32 pm

Not checked it yet. Thought I'd give it a good few days to drain if it's gonna . . . Will check tonight.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 12, 2013, 04:39:40 pm

The Optima is now down to 11.75V ....... The one connected to the Camaro is 12.55V .....

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Post by: ianjpage on July 12, 2013, 06:03:11 pm

Hmm not too bad for the focus one, hmm not too good on the optima though....

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Post by: Big Mouse on July 13, 2013, 09:53:23 am

I have a spare Exide Maxxima deep cycle battery that we used to use in the camaro when we were racing if its any good to ya? 750cca sp should be plenty for your camaro

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Post by: Roadkill on July 15, 2013, 08:13:57 pm

Optima's now down to 10.28V so I'll be trying to "blast" charge it !

I'm pretty sure it's dead, though.

Ray. Definitely interested - will chat once I've been paid. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Big Mouse on July 15, 2013, 08:43:40 pm

You don't need to wait until pay day if you need it now, we can sort it out later mate, you know it won't be expensive (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 15, 2013, 10:19:10 pm

Yeah, I know, and it's appreciated . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) . . but it's not stopping me from doing anything at the moment . . . The steering has been / is the real thorn in my side at the moment.

I've gotta take a deep breath and blow best part of £500 this weekend to start correcting that otherwise there's no chance of her being finished this year.

There's the steering and just a few snagging jobs left (tidying wiring under the dash and cut and paint some plates to go around the interior door handles . . . )

I'll be tackling those while I wait for parts to arrive for the steering.

That Exide of yours is the same size as the Optima and has terminals both sides so will be a simple drop-in - no work there.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 17, 2013, 01:33:28 pm

Been shopping.

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£51 (inc. shipping and taxes) For a replacement Intermediate steering column. Ebay.

£398 Rock Auto (inc. shipping and taxes) For New :
Pair of Outer Tie Rod Ends (Moog),
Pair of Inner Tie Rod Ends (Moog),
Centre Link (Moog),
Idler Arm (Moog),
Pair of Adjuster Sleeves (Cheapie ones as I won't be using them long),
Re-Man Power Steering (Saginaw) P/S Pump (Cardone),
Serp Pulley (Dorman),
Reservoir Cap (Dorman),
Gates P/S Pressure Hose,
AC Delco Bracket (this is risky as I may or may not need it . . No choice, though)

£50 Summit Racing (inc. shipping and taxes)
P/S Return Line & Cooler

I just want it to be finished, now. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 17, 2013, 01:38:03 pm

eek not cheap but at least it should be fairly easy install once it gets here!!

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Post by: Roadkill on July 17, 2013, 01:58:51 pm

Yeah, that's the up side of it.

I still need to agree a deal with Ryan for the P/S box itself and the Pitman arm . . . after that I think I have everything (except hopefully just the new belt).

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 17, 2013, 02:23:40 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I still need to agree a deal with Ryan for the P/S box itself and the Pitman arm

Well you're in the process of brewing some beer so that's a good bargaining chip lol!!

Quoting: Roadkill

after that I think I have everything (except hopefully just the new belt).

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Post by: Roadkill on July 21, 2013, 08:14:09 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I still need to agree a deal with Ryan for the P/S box itself and the Pitman arm . . .

Sorted and acquired.

Also had the Exide Battery from Ray, too.

Cheers, guys. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 22, 2013, 11:53:50 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: Roadkill
I still need to agree a deal with Ryan for the P/S box itself and the Pitman arm . . .

Sorted and acquired.

Also had the Exide Battery from Ray, too.

Cheers, guys.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 22, 2013, 01:23:52 pm

Been doing various test charges on the Optima . . . It's now even worse.

I had it charging with a fan on it constantly yesterday to keep it cool . . . I gave up last night, disconnected it and left the fan on for an hour to make sure it was cold.

Went outside this morning and could hear it quietly whistling to itself !!

Seriously f**ked.

Still, I've got Ray's Exide, now, so It won't be an issue. Just a PITA about the loss of MORE money and MORE wasted time !

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I hope the next project runs smoother. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 22, 2013, 02:53:02 pm

Holy SH!T !!

The stuff from Rock Auto was delivered this morning !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

5 days. I have a new respect for FedEx !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on July 22, 2013, 03:07:50 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Holy SH!T !!

The stuff from Rock Auto was delivered this morning !!!

5 days. I have a new respect for FedEx !!!

I think it's more down to Rock auto letting you pay the duty up front that make's it get through quickly, otherwise FedEx would sit on it for a week while they justify their admin fees and eventually send you a letter to charge the duty...

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Post by: Roadkill on July 22, 2013, 04:01:32 pm

That helps, T'is true. I get most stuff from Summit now and use iParcel - They're good, too - much, much cheaper than the others and normally get it to you in a week.

5 days is still pretty good from FedEx, though, considering it included a weekend.

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Post by: ianjpage on July 22, 2013, 08:10:00 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

That is definately knackered (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) as you say least you got something sorted now!

Quoting: Roadkill

Holy SH!T !!

The stuff from Rock Auto was delivered this morning !!!

5 days. I have a new respect for FedEx !!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) wow that is quick!

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Post by: Roadkill on July 23, 2013, 11:21:17 pm

I must confess, it's getting harder and harder to get enthusiastic about doing anything on the Camaro these days .....

That said, tonight's been a good pick-me-up.

I've got loads of jobs done (non car-related) and still managed to get all the new (and not-so-new) steering parts ground smooth, cleaned, masked and primed, ready for top-coating tomorrow.

A distinct feeling of de-ja-vu that was both sickeningly amusing and irritating at the same time.

Still. Progress. Kinda.

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Post by: Cunning Plan on July 24, 2013, 10:20:55 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I must confess, it's getting harder and harder to get enthusiastic about doing anything on the Camaro these days .....

Totally understand chap. I am working on the rear suspension on my bus and as I am taking parts off to upgrade, I am finding more metal work to repair first (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/TutTutSmiley.gif) So, instead of moving forward with the bus BUILD when I can actually work on it, I am back to repairs! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 24, 2013, 12:11:27 pm

Yeah, that sucks.

I managed to shuffle a meeting around this morning to free up a couple of hours for some painting ....

Got all the parts that I primed last night in three coats of red.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Just need to fit the grease nipples to them when I get back ....

Also need to tidy up the new steering pump as the factory finish is not great.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 24, 2013, 06:50:13 pm

Quoting: Roadkill on 12th July

The [battery] connected to the Camaro is 12.55V .....

Now at 12.4V, which, after nearly 2 weeks ain't too bad. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Hopefully that suspected draining issue was just the Optima dying.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 24, 2013, 08:35:10 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Also need to tidy up the new steering pump as the factory finish is not great.

The factory paint literally wiped off !

It's had a clean and I'm in the process of putting 3 coats of Hammerite on it (you won't see much of it but I figure I've gone this far so - )

Here's a pic from last night of the steering hardware prepped ready for priming (all now finished, ready to go on the car).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2709_zpsc86a0d7d.jpg)

Here's a pic of the Exide battery fitted. Perfect fit, too.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2714_zpsbf04c5db.jpg)

Also started addressing some snagging issues ahead of the weekend (nothing major - just measuring up for a couple of small plate to in-fill around the interior door handles) . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on July 26, 2013, 08:14:58 am

Hit my first snag on the way to going back to power steering . . .

The '89 Ancillary bracket won't mount the '89 pump in the correct position/alignment on my '93 engine in my '83 car !

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It's weird as we took dimensions from Ryan's Iroc (an '89) and they seemed to tally with the LT1 belt position which I was very suspicious about as I'm running a Corvette pulley - so I double checked.

When we offered up the bracket it was about half the belt spacing further from the block !

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Soooo, looks like I'll be making a custom mounting bracket, then . . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on July 26, 2013, 09:48:09 am

Quoting: Roadkill

just measuring up for a couple of small plate to in-fill around the interior door handles

Now have the plates in my hand so should be able to get that off the list this weekend . . .

Also got a bit of 8mm plate to make the P/S pump bracket out of . . . I wanted 6mm but took what I could get.

Have also ordered 3/8" UNC x 4.5" Bolts (will make more sense later).

Hopefully should make a start at stripping off the manual steering stuff this evening . . .

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Post by: Andy on July 26, 2013, 11:00:39 am

What's the plate made out of? Could be an opportunity for some funky ally billet pieces!

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Post by: Roadkill on July 26, 2013, 11:54:21 am

I need quick turn-around so it's just steel. I'll whittle it down with an angle grinder til I get the shape I need.

We have a bridgeport in the workshop but VERY limited tooling for it (we mainly use it for large diameter drilling).

We don't have a lathe so I'll need a steel spacer or two made up >wink< . . . Also I still need those ally ones doing once I've confirmed the final seat position.

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Post by: Andy on July 26, 2013, 01:59:12 pm

What Bridgeport have you got?

I've got a Haas Mini Mill here not doing too much at the moment, next couple of lunch times I'm going to set it up making some bits for my slot cars! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 26, 2013, 02:47:11 pm

Quoting: Andy

What Bridgeport have you got?

Dunno.

It's in the workshop in Luton (I'm in the offices at Leighton Buzzard).

Quoting: Andy

I've got a Haas Mini Mill here not doing too much at the moment

I know I'll definitely need a 10mm I.D / 18mm O.D steel spacer 51mm long doing but need to check as there'll be another too, to tie the pump back to the head . . . I think . . If it goes how I think it will . . .

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Post by: Andy on July 26, 2013, 03:29:41 pm

Will stainless do?

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Post by: Roadkill on July 26, 2013, 03:53:36 pm

It'll save me painting it. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Hold fire, though - I should be in position to confirm everything on Monday.

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Post by: Andy on July 26, 2013, 07:23:39 pm

No worries, Just had some 20mm Stainless go through my machine so have some bar ends sitting here looking nervous.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 28, 2013, 09:19:48 am

Have been working on a few "snagging" jobs . . . .

As previously observed - the door cards were untidy around the interior pull handle . . .

(sketch made on the back of a C.D packet) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2715_zps53813049.jpg)

I nearly made them myself but I wanted to save a bit of time and more importantly I wanted the sides to be perfectly square (difficult when cutting ally with an angle grinder)

A quick turn-around on something so simple . . . a quick few coats of wrinkle paint on Friday and -

All fitted, with pin plates painted black and rubber feet to hold the handles off of the door card slightly for easier grabbing.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2716_zps641289b7.jpg)

The door "card" overall - I'm quite happy with these . . . It's been worth the countless hours of design and drawing work in order to create the .DXF file. If I ever do another 3rd Gen - it's all time saved.

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(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2717_zps38e1ad63.jpg)

As a bonus the "last" bits arrived yesterday - giving me time to pimp 'em up prior to fitting . . . I say "last" as I've already spotted a hose fitting that the P/S fluid cooler didn't come with . . .

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And so the result of a few evenings and a few hours yesterday . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2718_zpsd448ff56.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2720_zps6d64e75e.jpg)

Feeling like I've done this before . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on July 28, 2013, 01:23:09 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

And so the result of a few evenings and a few hours yesterday . . .

Very nice, what paint process did you use? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

Feeling like I've done this before . . . .

It will be worth-it buddy, that's all you can keep saying (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

It's been worth the countless hours of design and drawing work in order to create the .DXF file.

Is there much demand for door-cards for these? You could sell them if there is?

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Post by: Roadkill on July 28, 2013, 07:02:33 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Very nice, what paint process did you use?

I ground off all the sharp bits, then cleaned the parts in thinners . . . then 3 coats of primer, 3 coats of paint.

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Is there much demand for door-cards for these? You could sell them if there is?

Nah, not much call. Plus I kinda like that no one else has these . . . sure they're not a "pro" job but on the other hand they're probably the best non-pro ones I've seen.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 29, 2013, 08:52:43 am

Thanks to Ryan for popping over yesterday, lending a hand and reminding me what bit goes where.

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All the "old" manual steering parts have now been removed (scary how easy it is to wipe away nearly 2 years of off-and-on work)

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The "new" P/S box is on, loosely, Pitman arm in position and the Idler and complete track rods are on, also (just need to adjust the tracking a little and torque the nuts).

However . . . the drama (I can only call it a drama, now) continues . . . .

The "82-92" intermediate steering shaft that "fits all" doesn't fit mine.

In fact it's 34mm too short for mine (an '83) and about 15mm too short for Ryan's (an '89)

!!!!!

My column is a non-tilt / non-airbag. Ryan's is a tilt but non airbag . . . . . the one I got sent over had a airbag warning sticker on it so must've been from a later 91-92 with tilt AND airbag . . . .

But apparently they're all the same. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Have looked at making a shaft myself which IS do-able but it's the splined connection at the box-end that's got me stumped.

I'm also in discussions with a guy who's breaking an '82 . . . he's getting some dimensions back to me before I spend anymore money !

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Apart from that it seemed to go O.K . . . . . .

I do need a M16 x 1.5 (fine) standard O-ring push-fitting for the P/S box . . . . . . Ironically not even Earl's seem to have these but they're plentiful in the states . . . .

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I'm hoping the guy with the '82 also has something I can modify for this . . . .

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Post by: Andy on July 29, 2013, 09:10:44 am

Cut either end of the spines off, turn down the cut off diameter for a couple of
Inches, turn up a bar with two inside diameters either end to suit, drill and split pin either end 90 degrees apart.

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Post by: Andy on July 29, 2013, 09:11:20 am

Want me to measure my shaft? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on July 29, 2013, 09:28:03 am

Quoting: Roadkill

then 3 coats of primer, 3 coats of paint.

Spray or brush? Looks like spray as it is very smooth. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/thumbsup.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 29, 2013, 10:02:10 am

Quoting: Andy

Cut either end of the spines off, turn down the cut off diameter for a couple of
Inches, turn up a bar with two inside diameters either end to suit, drill and split pin either end 90 degrees apart.

The end near the splined part is actually a tube* which would present problems . . . the other end is 3/4" DD shaft and only about 11mm across the narrowest part.
I'm not sure they'd be the strength left in the material for an extension like that.

* Starts of as a tube and at some point becomes a round bar, then becomes a DD shaft. It's surpisingly complex for what just needs to be a piece of bar !

I can make up the bulkhead end using bits I've got . . . . it's connecting the splined end to that I think will be the problem.

Quoting: Andy

Want me to measure my shaft?

Yes, please. Yours is Airbag and tilt, isn't it ? - Should be the same as the one I now have . . . . give me the overall length (pull back the plastic shroud) end-to-end, when you can.

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Quoting: Cunning Plan

Spray or brush? Looks like spray as it is very smooth.

Spray. I use U-Pol (or Simoniz when tight for pennies) primers. The red paint is mixed (Mazda Colorado Red) by a local company (MKPE) and is excellent quality stuff (very fine spray so produces masses of dust when doing small, odd-shaped parts like that).

Always do a thin coat first, a heavier coat second and just concentrate on a medium thickness coat last which covers everything evenly.

I do that for both priming and top-coating but obviously pay more attention to the final coat of top-coat.

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Post by: Cunning Plan on July 29, 2013, 10:08:30 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Take note kids, this is how it's done.

Good tips, will remember (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 29, 2013, 10:40:18 am

That's what seems to work for me, anyway. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 29, 2013, 04:42:45 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm also in discussions with a guy who's breaking an '82 . . .

Wow. Dreamer.

He wants £100 for that shaft - and wanted £150 !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

I can get one for £50 (inc. P&P & tax) from the states so don't intend to get ripped off ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: FUBAR on July 29, 2013, 05:00:14 pm

probably because you (had to) asked about it, he straight away knows there's a need there, so upped the price (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on July 29, 2013, 08:37:03 pm

Nice to see the door's done!

Shame there more ... challenges with the steering....

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Post by: Titsy on July 30, 2013, 04:47:36 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I can get one for £50 (inc. P&P & tax) from the states so don't intend to get ripped off !

Did you tell him that?

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Post by: Roadkill on July 31, 2013, 10:29:45 am

Quoting: Titsy

Did you tell him that?

Not yet. I'm waiting to see if it's even the right length, first.

That said I've had no reply at all since. May end up making it.

Quoting: Andy

Want me to measure my shaft?

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Post by: Andy on July 31, 2013, 11:19:36 am

Sorry! Been busy with my extra curriculum activities! Will get on to it tonight.

Which bits precisely do you want the length of?

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Post by: Roadkill on July 31, 2013, 12:26:54 pm

Difficult to explain but basically the overall length of the intermediate shaft.

I'll try to take a picture later to clarify.

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Post by: Roadkill on July 31, 2013, 09:03:29 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll try to take a picture later to clarify.

Here ya' go.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2736A_zps1d4a5b8c.jpg)

This is the overall length. The bit on the left is the splined end that clamps to the input shaft of the P/S box (this is hidden under the plastic shroud). The end on the right is an expanded DD shape, that slides over the base of the main steering column. A bolt passes through this bit with a low-profile round head (it locates on the squared shoulder under the head and a nut retains it the other side).

Make sense ?

I suspect yours will measure the same as this, TBH . . . Although it's about 34mm too short for mine.

If you could take some pictures of the end of the steering column as it comes through the bulkhead that'd be handy, too, to see if there's a visual difference between the two.

My theory is that mine has the longest intermediate shaft as there's no tilt or airbag. The shaft got shorter when the tilt mechanism was added and shorter still when the airbag went on (meaning that the main column got longer with the additions - which kinda makes sense).

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Post by: Roadkill on July 31, 2013, 09:45:44 pm

Have sent Earl's an email regarding the P/S hose fitting I need . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Can see myself making these last few bits from scratch . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 01, 2013, 11:47:36 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Have sent Earl's an email regarding the P/S hose fitting I need . . .

The parts are in stock, now ordered and on First Class delivery . . . would be nice to have them for Saturday.

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Post by: Andy on August 01, 2013, 07:00:02 pm

Right, I've put a measuring tape over mine. Can't measure to the bits you're on about, as one ends oily and looks 'delicate', the other is inside the steering box. However, here are some piccies...

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/3e9b92d6-c28b-4761-baac-21ca6fdf2ee2_zpsecfde0e9.jpg?t=1375383475)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/903C64DD-F2A5-4FC6-A9A3-EA13146EF6EC-21442-00000263C3D554F6_zpsc0a7d2c5.jpg?t=1375383157)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/9B7BB028-FF34-4320-B74E-55217C9A2356-21442-00000263B5AC3AFB_zps086c55b5.jpg?t=1375383028)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/76763643-F87C-4386-BA89-2995246D13BD-21442-00000263BB3CCF76_zps2f972e80.jpg?t=1375383095)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/257BAC60-4B2B-4E1E-AB29-6BACDBBEDBAF-21442-00000263B003014F_zpsebbda9bb.jpg?t=1375382965)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/andydpics/560F5B40-96FA-40D4-8118-0C93A9DED6B6-21442-00000263AAD01524_zpsd6044b82.jpg?t=1375382918)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 02, 2013, 08:40:27 am

Quoting: Andy

the other is inside the steering box

????

That plastic shroud is just loose. It locates on the P/S return line nut and is there to shield the rag joint from crap.

The splined joint is under that.

That said I'll compare that pictures to mine and go from there.

Thanks. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: F Body on August 02, 2013, 10:41:46 am

Quoting: Roadkill

That said I'll compare that pictures to mine and go from there.

It doesn't look any different than 4th Gen, if that helps (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 04, 2013, 02:39:58 pm

O.K . . .

I wish I'd have taken some pictures on Friday evening now as it was a bit of a turning point . . .

The steering column issue I'd researched extensively as to why this was different . . . and it definitely seemed different . . .

Anyway. The shaft is a semi-collapse-able one . . meaning that it kind-of telescopic. I'd seen no mention of this - only that people were using shafts from Astro Vans as they had better U.J's, no rag joints and were fully collapse-able.

But that was it.

So I planned to make one using a 1"DD / 3/4" DD U.J connected to a stainless rod with a 3/4" DD / 3/4"-30 spline at the box.

Simple, but it meant buying another ~£130 of U.J's . . .

Long story short, cut the crappy factory U.J off, remove shroud, remove telescopic part, cut and recess a new, longer telescopic part, paint.

Fit original rag-joint to box but this time fit a U.J I already had at the other end into the lower, main column.

All sounds fairly easy but It really wasn't. It took a few hours BUT cost me nothing I didn't already have "in stock"

Plus it mean't progress on Saturday.

So, Saturday.

Column in and connected at both ends. All steering "hardware" torqued and aligned correctly. Wheels roughly tracked and P/S oil cooler installed and part-plumbed.

Basically it's all just hanging on me somehow mounting the power-steering pump so I can complete the fluid circuit . . .

Pictures . . .

The oil cooler

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2738_zps4f69e55b.jpg)

The new / old / new box . . complete with Earl's fittings (another long story)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2739_zps0ef06a84.jpg)

The top of the intermediate connecting to the main column

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2740_zps258d3bb3.jpg)

And an under-car shot . . . . rewind this thread about 5 years and you'll see similar pictures to this.

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(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2742_zps2b1756c0.jpg)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 04, 2013, 02:56:23 pm

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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 04, 2013, 08:49:19 pm

Very, very, VERY nice. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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You must be quite proud at this point, if you do not take into consideration the hassle of the steering. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Andy on August 04, 2013, 10:04:09 pm

Looks mighty mighty fine, but my god those headers are low! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 05, 2013, 08:36:05 am

Quoting: Cunning Plan

You must be quite proud at this point, if you do not take into consideration the hassle of the steering.

Yeah, I suppose . . . I must admit with all the problems in the last 18 months it's probably more tainted pride, now.

It's a learning curve at the end of the day. I've gotta keep reminding myself . . .

Quoting: Andy

but my god those headers are low!

I know. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

One of my next jobs is to make a drawing of the underside profile and wheelbase of the car so I can work out "worst case" scenario speed-bumps. It's all about working out the combination of lead-in / height ratio.

At this stage I do know that "sleeping policeman" style bumps will be a danger. I measured some at 80mm high and with no lead-ins, that's higher than my ground clearance !

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Post by: Roadkill on August 05, 2013, 01:46:34 pm

Just plotted some basic ramp requirements for 100mm, 125mm and 150mm rises.

This is worst case, as I've assumed - for now - that my 70mm clearance effects the whole wheel base (which it doesn't).

The aligned dimensions (top) show where on the wheelbase the strike will occur when moving FROM the right TO the left side.

The bottom right dimension indicates the absolute minimum ramp size I'd need, at that desent, to clear if travelling FROM the left TO the right.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/GroundClearance_zps16d6d891.png)

next job on this is to more accurately plot when the ground clearance improves as I suspect that this will improve matters somewhat.

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Post by: Andy on August 05, 2013, 04:44:33 pm

You need some airbags! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on August 05, 2013, 05:18:41 pm

'twas good progress at the weekend - at least the car is now steerable (to some degree), and the wheel is connected to the wheels :p

Just need the 'special' bracketry now!

Will be interesting to see how close it is to the bumps when getting it out of the estate!!!

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Post by: F Body on August 05, 2013, 06:20:36 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

This is worst case, as I've assumed - for now - that my 70mm clearance effects the whole wheel base (which it doesn't).

Jeeze that's only about 2 3/4" my Maro often struggles with it's 4 1/2"

"insert CP jokes " (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 05, 2013, 08:17:26 pm

Quoting: F Body

"insert CP jokes "

(http://images.dailydawdle.com/late-for-class1.gif)

Am I too late?

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Post by: Incursus on August 06, 2013, 06:53:06 am

Quoting: F Body

my Maro often struggles with it's 4 1/2"

Yeah the Mustang is probably around that and most speed bump are a pain in the exhaust pipe.

Pretty sure I did some damage under there over the weekend, while bringing it back from its temporary storage. Stupidly viscous speed bumps though.

I will take a look one evening...at least it will give me a chance to use my new jack (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 06, 2013, 07:17:56 am

Being as you are a master fabricator, how about making up some protection plates or a skid / belly pan? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on August 06, 2013, 08:29:47 am

I do have an advantage over Martyn's and Chris's cars . . . and that is I have MASSES of ground clearance behind the gearbox. (No exhaust, you see).

This means that although low, the worst case only effects about a 1/3 of the wheelbase so what would ground Chris's Mustang on the rear boxes wouldn't necessarily be an issue for me.

The Camaro is still quite high at the back . . .

Once I've taken some more dimensions I'm hoping they'll paint a more accurate picture.

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Being as you are a master fabricator, how about making up some protection plates or a skid / belly pan?

See -

Quoting: Roadkill On Page 79

We measured the minimum ground clearance at 2 3/4" (70mm). Not sure what to make of that but I already have some unconventional plans if I'm stuck on getting her over speed-bumps . . . .

This'll be an emergency measure.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on August 06, 2013, 09:32:43 am

Quoting: Roadkill

and that is I have MASSES of ground clearance behind the gearbox. (No exhaust, you see).

Tis true I normally get hung up near the middle of the car.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 08, 2013, 01:09:32 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Being as you are a master fabricator

A little master class in bracket making, young grasshopper.

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Make a cardboard template . . . Concentrate on the connections for each part before worrying about either the overall shape or joining the two.

Note the masking tape ? - This had been cut up and re-jigged numerous times !

Draw around the template onto some appropriate material (I used an old jig I had sitting around at work made from 6mm plate)

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Always drill your holes first (It's easier) . . .

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Rough cut with a angle grinder and THIN (1mm) cutting discs. Outer curves are easy . . inner curves are hard. I make multiple cuts into inner curves and gradually make it close.

Note the obvious lumps, though.

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Next, use a P24 pad on a grinder and work in those outer curves making them nice and even. Take the heavy burrs off as you go. Use a standard grinding wheel to nibble away at the inner curves (it'll be difficult to get it perfect).
Then I use decent quality file to radius all the the edges (I like to be able to run my finger around the edge without fear of splinters). Use a crescent-shaped file to help bring in the inner curves.
Finally I run a P120 pad on a grinder over the two faces to smooth the hole burrs and flatten any marks left by the vice when cutting/drilling.

Compare to original template and correct as necessary.

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Wipe over with thinners and paint.

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Total time was about 2.5 hours including painting and clearing up. It's not quick work . . . that's why I prefer to use the laser-cutter when I can !!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 08, 2013, 01:17:08 pm

Needless to say there is some progress being made. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Thanks to Ian for assistance as required. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

I have a snagging list in the works but the main job is to get this P/S pump fitted . . . finger's crossed for this weekend . . . ?

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 08, 2013, 01:30:38 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I know I'll definitely need a 10mm I.D / 18mm O.D steel spacer 51mm long doing

Andy - would you have time to get this done tomorrow ?

I know it's short notice but I made better-than-expected progress on the bracket and there's a good chance this could go in on Saturday.

Can be 18-20mm O.D although the I/D needs to clear a 3/8" bolt shoulder (so needs to be 10mm).

I should be good to see you over at Jack's tomorrow . . . doubt I'll be in the Caddy, though.

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Post by: Andy on August 08, 2013, 03:07:33 pm

Done! Just so happened to be turning some 3/4" 303 so I've just run a 10mm drill up a bit and put a couple of chamfers on it.

Just need to remember to put it in the car!

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 08, 2013, 04:37:45 pm

You, Sir, Are a star. I will buy you a Coke / Tea / Coffee / etc tomorrow !

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 09, 2013, 09:23:34 am

Bracket fitted after 3 coats of engine enamel.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 09, 2013, 03:56:59 pm

Looking good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 09, 2013, 04:03:19 pm

I need a second pair of hands at some point to finish getting that pulley on. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on August 09, 2013, 05:05:47 pm

ok no probs - which day is best sat or sun, i guess once its on then its time to fit it to the car :)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 11, 2013, 01:26:29 pm

Well, with a bit of final fettling we got the P/S pump fitted and the pulley installed. It took the addition of a washer under each bolt to get the pulley inline but it's all good.

Bloody close to the steering box (about 4mm - just enough gap to get the belt in !!!)

All the pipes are fitted but we couldn't do a pressure test as I need a longer belt, now and can't get one until tomorrow.

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Provided the crank contacts enough of the belt to turn the P/S pump and alternator the steering saga should be over . . . . . although I'm expecting she'll need an additional pulley in there to add tension . . .

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We'll see tomorrow.

Cheers to Andy for the stainless spacer (fits perfect and looks pimp).

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Cheers to Ian, as always, for providing the much needed extra pairs of hands.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on August 11, 2013, 06:56:05 pm

So goooood (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

Keep it coming (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on August 11, 2013, 07:57:46 pm

Dude, looks great! What about engine rock? 4mm is a bit close.

Glad the bits fit though, let me know about those seat spacers.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 11, 2013, 10:13:13 pm

I've got solid motor mounts so am hoping that engine rock won't be an issue !

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 13, 2013, 08:55:30 am

SUCCESS !

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(I hope)

We got the belt - 6PK1183 fitted (O-M-G - what a tight fit !!) and started her up . . . no apparent belt slip . . . blipped the throttle a few times - still no belt slip.

Good new, there, then. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

The belt runs close (within about 1/2") to one of the mounting bosses on the water pump but doesn't flap about enough to cause an issue (will keep an eye on it, though).

As a bonus, the timing tab is still just about visible under the pump and belt, too.

Got a little worried when the steering remained heavy but after adding more fluid the steering was silky smooth and I was turning the wheel easily, lock-to-lock in just over 2.5 turns.

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Did a quick leak-check and so far, so good.

If I didn't know better I'd think the steering saga was over . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

We're not "there" yet, though . . . there's still some snagging jobs to do before she's ready for an MoT.

Soooo close, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Unless something breaks. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on August 13, 2013, 10:12:03 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Got a little worried when the steering remained heavy

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Quoting: Roadkill

but after adding more fluid the steering was silky smooth and I was turning the wheel easily, lock-to-lock in just over 2.5 turns.

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I bet that felt good, worth the effort!

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Come on dude, BIG push whilst it is still warm outside! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 13, 2013, 10:27:24 am

Am hoping to get some done on Saturday . . . It can't be Sunday as I'm looking after the little'un and I'm intending on taking him to Billing.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 27, 2013, 11:13:20 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Did a quick leak-check and so far, so good.

If I didn't know better I'd think the steering saga was over . . . .

Gave it another check yesterday and all good.

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Also got the horn button fitted, most of the under-dash wiring tidied and run the cable under the carpet for the (future) NOS bottle heater.

Did a very short road test and measured up underneath so I can re-do my ground-clearance drawing.

A successful 5 hours !

Thanks to Ian for assistance and Jensen for instantly cheering up when he saw the Camaro pull up onto the drive.

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Next jobs are :

i) Timing
ii) A bit of POR15'ing
iii) Measure up for the seat spacers

Then

iv) M.o.T !!!

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Post by: Roadkill on August 27, 2013, 11:51:25 am

Ground Clearance Updated . . . .

First One shows static, 100mm and 125mm . . .

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Next one shows more aggressive speed bumps - 150mm, 175mm and 200mm

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Compared to the original drawing I did these are much better . . . and these are worst case as the measurements did differ from D/S to P/S slightly.

Ultimately, the real test will be driving it out of the estate for the first time (or attempting to).

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Big Mouse on August 27, 2013, 07:55:56 pm

Had similar issues with the camaro when we went to a 4" exhaust, it used to contact on the collector so Webbo welded some titanium pads; used to last for a year before needing replacements.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on August 27, 2013, 11:06:09 pm

I assume the pads were on a nice solid part of the chassis ?

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 03, 2013, 08:40:13 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Next jobs are :

i) Timing
ii) A bit of POR15'ing
iii) Measure up for the seat spacers

Then

iv) M.o.T !!!

Currently battling through the "bit" of POR15'ing . . . . turns out that I'm actually re-doing the entire engine bay and all 4 arches !

How did that happen ?

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On a sidenote I've also re-jigged the number plate fixings so I can attach (and remove) my "legal" pressed plates over the top of my "totally illegal" plates.

It'll add more credibility to my excuses when I get pulled over. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on September 03, 2013, 08:47:48 am

Been driving with my pressed Ally ones for 12 months, still not been tugged, even with the five-ohh following me on the M40.

Do carry the plastic ones in the boot though.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 03, 2013, 10:13:49 am

Quoting: Andy

Been driving with my pressed Ally ones for 12 months, still not been tugged

I never was with my white fronts and yellow rears but my new ones are white lettering on a black background.

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 10, 2013, 03:36:02 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Currently battling through the "bit" of POR15'ing . . . . turns out that I'm actually re-doing the entire engine bay and all 4 arches !

How did that happen ?

Engine bay was finished last week . . .

Went round touching up little chips here and there from the assembly process, too . . . was gonna do this later but the hood was off, so -

Also finished painting the hood, too . . . the area under the cowl scoop is simply impossible to spray so I brush-painted the inner-sides of the cowl and gloss-rollered the part of the hood under the cowl part. Sounds pikey but you won't see it and it's better than seeing the feint red paint everytime you look through the windscreen !!

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Also spent a hour-or-two re-sticking the weather strip at the bottom of the drivers door. It's always been a problem but I'm hoping Tiger Seal's sorted that.

While I was poncing about doing that Ian was busy re-jigging the seats so we could get a final seating position so I could measure up for spacers.

The driver's seat needed reclining a bit to increase the distance to the steering wheel and me (being me) wanted the passenger side to be the same.

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Finally I spent about 2 hours on my back in the passenger side foot well tidying the cables under the dash . . . there's been numerous additions since Titsy did the first install so it just needed a bit of organising to make it look right.

Still need to POR15 the 4 wheel arches before re-fitting the front arch covers (but that's not critical).

Finish doing the timing is the next (and only) major job to do while Andy turns-up the seat spacers for me . . .

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Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Andy on September 10, 2013, 06:04:17 pm

Turned them up just before finishing tonight. Gonna give them a blat in the rumbler tomorrow morning then post them off first class tomorrow lunch.

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Post by: Cunning Plan on September 10, 2013, 06:21:45 pm

Still really enjoying this thread with the dedication and passion for detail, whilst getting it right and to a high standard. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 11, 2013, 03:02:45 pm

Quoting: Andy

Turned them up just before finishing tonight. Gonna give them a blat in the rumbler tomorrow morning then post them off first class tomorrow lunch.

Cheers, Andy. Much appreciated. I'm trying to get them to buy me a lathe in our workshop but the guv'nor's having none of it.

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Quoting: Cunning Plan

Still really enjoying this thread with the dedication and passion for detail, whilst getting it right and to a high standard.

Thanks, matey. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/hug.gif)

It's dragging on a bit, now, I must admit. It's wearing me down, too. Still hopefully the end is nigh and there'll be good news to come.

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on September 17, 2013, 10:33:16 am

Hmm.

Where to start. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

O.K.

I got the spacers from Andy on the Thursday morning and got the passenger seat half done Thursday night (left work late so didn't make a massive impact) . . .

Friday morning, before Brighton, Ian popped over and we finished the passenger side and fixed the drivers side.

Next mission was to test her over speed bumps . . .

The only way to do this legally was to book an MoT for that day (she's insured but has no tax or MoT - so the only journey she's allowed to do is to an MoT station, basically), so an MoT was booked for the early afternoon.

Good news is that she cleared all the speed bumps leaving the estate in one direction and grazed one on the way back in in another direction.

All pretty good news. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

But with good there's always bad. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Some idiot, in a rush and feeling a little stressed, I suppose, kinda forgot to put the bonnet pins back on (despite Ian reminding said idiot shortly before) . . . .

Anyway, after clearing the ramps the plan was to turn around and head back home the same way (all low speed, no need for the pins) . . . however, by the time I'd reached the main road that'd been forgotten and it made far more sense to me to drive around the estate on the main road and back in from another direction to test the clearance there . . . .

Good idea, eh ?

No.

The timing was still off and she was a little sluggish so I opened her up, heading up the hill to the other entrance to the estate, after the roundabout.

Quick as a flash, the hood took off, clearing the car and landing on the road behind.

I should've been annoyed. I should've been shocked. I should've been panicking.

All I could do was chuckle quietly to myself as Ian left out of the passenger door to inspect the damage.

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If you can't laugh about these things, as they say . . . .

On the plus side the bonnet landed flat, causing minor, minor structural damage and limited cosmetic damage, too.
I'm guessing the raised cowl helped vent the air through the hood to stop it going nose-first into the road (which would've totalled the bonnet) so, I suppose, by design, I was lucky.

As planned, the MoT was cancelled as we were due to head to Brighton, anyway.

I had booked another for Monday afternoon but I'm not happy running at high revs at speed with the timing still noticeably "out".

The bonnet will need a repair and re-spray but with the weather beginning to fail, this, unfortunately, is likely to be next year . . .

Two small steps forward, one large step back . . . .

I'm still aiming to MoT her this month. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on September 17, 2013, 11:46:26 am

And you took the piss out of me when I lost a T-Top in the same fashion.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Andy on September 17, 2013, 11:52:25 am

In fairness, who HASN'T done something like that. Oil filler cap, t-top, bonnet pins. When you do get on the road, the urge gets the better of you and suddenly you're in a world of pain.

At least it didn't cause any damage to the car or anyone else!

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Post by: Roadkill on September 17, 2013, 12:47:52 pm

Quoting: Titsy

And you took the piss out of me when I lost a T-Top in the same fashion....

Yeah, cause it was funny. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

Loosing a bonnet was just f*cking hilarious !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 17, 2013, 02:02:53 pm

I've just ordered a Sealey Gold HVLP gun to repaint the bonnet.

I used a Devilbiss before but they're £260 new and the Sealey is £28.

The Sealey gets 5* reviews and I figure I'm painting Satin so it's worth a go.

I used a Sealey suction gun on the nosecone with a 1.8 tip and the finish came out great so finger's crossed.

Still got just under a litre of Satin paint left, too, which should be enough to re-paint the bonnet both sides if I'm careful.

Got some P40 and filler, too.

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Post by: Titsy on September 17, 2013, 04:37:34 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Yeah, cause it was funny.

I bricked it at the time as i'd just overtaken a brand new Audi A6 and didn't know what direction the spinning lump of glass was heading... Thankfully it headed diagonally towards the verge and not into the path of traffic.

I had considerably less to pick up afterwards though as a tree caused it to come to a very abrupt halt...

It's funny looking back on it, but it was shear panic when it happened (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 17, 2013, 04:41:30 pm

That's what was so weird. I was quite amused by it.

I'm a little sick, though, I suppose. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on October 09, 2013, 07:45:17 pm

Me and Ian had another go at the timing this evening . . .

Got the baseline to about 13-14*, With Full Mech @ 35* . . . Didn't Check with Vac.

That's roughly where "they" reckon it should be so --

It got dark very quick so didn't get a chance to run her up and down the rev band too much. She seemed happy and I backed the idle back down to about 525 RPM.

I also leaned the mix a little as she's been looking a little rich.

We also had a better look at the bonnet after its stint in the air . . . there's more damage than first thought so it'll need more than just a quick cosmetic repair.

If I'm honest my head isn't in it at the moment, I'm not in that place so I don't intend to do any more than I absolutely need to . . . I'll concentrate on getting her out of the weather then wait til next year.

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Post by: Roadkill on October 31, 2013, 03:12:12 pm

She's MoT'ed, now, BTW . . .

Easy pass with no advisories . . . They didn't even need to adjust the headlights !!!

I adjusted the tracking last night, too . . that's pretty darn close, now.

She's now sleeping in a cosy garage for the winter months.

She's technically NOT finished, of course, but I've had enough for this year . . . .

She's still bogging quite a bit at higher revs and once she was hot did pop a few times on the way to the station and back . . . I've also got the bonnet to re-do, too . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

She's 99% there though so I'm as happy as I can be . . .

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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 31, 2013, 03:21:39 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

She's MoT'ed, now, BTW . . .

Congratulations dude (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif) Loads of hard work has gone into that. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

She's 99% there though so I'm as happy as I can be . . .

Bah, you should know, a hobby car is never complete. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on October 31, 2013, 03:28:04 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

She's MoT'ed, now, BTW . . .

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Post by: Titsy on October 31, 2013, 03:55:25 pm

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Post by: ianjpage on October 31, 2013, 06:53:21 pm

cool thats good news, didn't thnk you were going to bother though ???

lol bet they loved the noise of the thingin the workshop!!

Fair enough start afresh next year and get it finished for the summer to do some driving in it!!

not much left to do though

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Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2013, 10:31:24 am

Quoting: ianjpage

didn't thnk you were going to bother though ???

Yeah. I know. I was just sitting there and thought "F*ck it" (I think that a lot, lately) and booked it in . . . an hour later she was being MoT'ed.

Quoting: ianjpage

lol bet they loved the noise of the thingin the workshop!!

It was really good.

All the guys stopped and had a good look round it. When asked how much in total it'd set me back they were utterly stunned when I told them "around £10K" - most were thinking double that.

Another nice thing was that they said it was "as good - if not better" than Tony's work (from Wheels in Motion - knock them if you like but they have some serious high-end stuff go through their shop).

The interior was described as "f*cking sexy" and the overall stance as "porn".

I can't say that all the comments made it all worthwhile (I'd be lying) but it did spur me on to do an even better job of the Cadillac.

EDIT - The guy nearly fell over when I told him I'd sprayed it, too . . . especially when I said it hadn't been post-paint sanded. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

I just need a bigger space . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on November 01, 2013, 10:39:19 am

Quoting: Roadkill

EDIT - The guy nearly fell over when I told him I'd sprayed it, too . . . especially when I said it hadn't been post-paint sanded.

You need to open your own business. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on November 01, 2013, 10:39:38 am

Quoting: Roadkill

been post-paint sanded.

What does this mean?

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Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2013, 11:12:55 am

Quoting: Cunning Plan

You need to open your own business.

See :

Quoting: Roadkill

I just need a bigger space . . . .

Quoting: Cunning Plan

What does this mean?

I should've said "colour sanding". It's the (wet) sanding you do after painting to remove orange-peel, runs and imperfections.

I wasn't too sure how a satin finish would respond to this type of sanding so didn't do it.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on November 01, 2013, 11:20:31 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I wasn't too sure how a satin finish would respond to this type of sanding so didn't do it.

Can't you test it out on the bonnet, as it needs re-doing?

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Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2013, 12:28:20 pm

Quoting: Incursus

Can't you test it out on the bonnet, as it needs re-doing?

I can, yes, and will do when the warmer weather comes back around. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Andy on November 01, 2013, 01:01:17 pm

MOT'd you say? For a year you say? Well that would mean it would be perfectly fine to take part in the Powertour next year! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on November 01, 2013, 01:18:24 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Yeah. I know. I was just sitting there and thought "F*ck it" (I think that a lot, lately) and booked it in . . . an hour later she was being MoT'ed.

lol fair enough, least they had free appointment!!

Quoting: Roadkill

Sounds good then if they thought it that good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grin.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on November 01, 2013, 01:21:47 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

Ahh, that makes sense.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 01, 2013, 01:57:36 pm

Quoting: Andy

MOT'd you say? For a year you say? Well that would mean it would be perfectly fine to take part in the Powertour next year!

I was waiting for you to say that !!

Yes and no. She's running like $hit at the moment - sounds great but at higher revs she ain't great. That on it's own isn't good but the "popping" can be potentially damaging so until I can be sure nothing's gonna go bang I'm not committing to anything.

Quoting: ianjpage

lol fair enough, least they had free appointment!!

They didn't, not really, I just talked it in. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Andy on November 02, 2013, 01:03:22 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Yes and no. She's running like $hit at the moment - sounds great but at higher revs she ain't great. That on it's own isn't good but the "popping" can be potentially damaging so until I can be sure nothing's gonna go bang I'm not committing to anything.

No worries, would be awesome to have a third gen there hauling some ass, god knows I ain't about to be! Need any help or that give us a shout. It also turns out most of the V8UK lads all live around MK! Who would've thunk it! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 04, 2013, 01:48:13 pm

Titsy !!

Further to our conversations on Saturday - -

Would this (X2) work ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Top-Quality-Oxygen-O2-Lambda-Sensor-4-Wire-Universal-TOYOTA-HONDA-ANY-MODEL-/251367206338?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a86a72dc2

A lot cheaper than I was expecting !??

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Post by: art b on November 04, 2013, 10:37:05 pm

well done on the mot...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on November 05, 2013, 08:05:08 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Would this (X2) work ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Top-Quality-Oxygen-O2-Lambda-Sensor-4-Wire-Universal-TOYOTA-HONDA-ANY-MODEL-/251367206338?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a86a72dc2

A lot cheaper than I was expecting !??

Don't get to excited.... You're going to be wanting a wide band sensor setup as a narrow band it only really useful for an engine management system that's aiming at stoich. I'll take a butchers at lunch and post some options.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 05, 2013, 03:12:43 pm

I've found some gauges that come with sensors but only single-sensor set-ups.

All the twin-sensor set-ups I've heard mentioned refer to pre and post-cat set-ups.

Is it an option to run 2 separate set-ups (ie 2 sensors, 2 gauges), effectively monitoring each head separately ?? Almost certainly most expensive but ---- ?

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Post by: Titsy on November 05, 2013, 03:40:58 pm

What autometer gauge series have you got fitted already?

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Post by: Titsy on November 05, 2013, 09:21:23 pm

2x http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/3379/10002/-1 $484 total

or

2x http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/3378/10002/-1 $620 total

either fitted in

1x http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto-Meter/105/10200/10002/-1?parentProductId=752269 $35

sensors are included in each, the more expensive ones have peak hold and alarm settings. Ideal for tuning and a nitrous setup.

not quite as cheap as you would have hoped i'm sure

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Post by: Titsy on November 05, 2013, 09:43:14 pm

or

2x http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lc2.php $378 total

plus

2x http://www.speedhut.com/gauge/GR-AFWB-01/1/Air-Fuel-Gauge-Wide-Band-10-18-(w--warning)-(FOR-INNOVATE) $220 total

plus

1x http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto-Meter/105/10200/10002/-1?parentProductId=752269 $35

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Post by: Roadkill on November 05, 2013, 10:03:27 pm

I'll have a proper look when I'm on the P.C tomorrow.

Thanks. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on November 07, 2013, 01:25:35 pm

I like the Speedhut gauge much more than the Autometer ones (much simpler and easier to read, IMO)

Unfortunately, from my experience, unless you're buying from Jegs or Summit shipping to the U.K becomes a ball-ache !

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Post by: Roadkill on November 07, 2013, 01:38:41 pm

Found the Innovate controller here in the U.K for £118 delivered !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INNOVATE-LC-2-LC-1-AFR-WIDEBAND-CONTROLLER-O2-BOSCH-O2-SENSOR-3877-/300977237961

I'm assuming it's the same deal ???

As for gauges . . .

. . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono2.gif)

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In fact - would two of these work ???? ($470)

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/atm-3370/overview/

??

They're the same as my gauges

And

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/atm-10200/overview/make/chevrolet/model/camaro/year/1983 ($31)

EDIT - that lot comes to $500.91 meaning I'd get a $60 rebate from Autometer, too !! (just checked the terms and conditions and it doesn't say anything about being a US-resident)

http://www.autometer.com/pdf/Race%20to%20New%20Year%20Cash%20Rebate.pdf

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Post by: Titsy on November 07, 2013, 02:15:45 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

In fact - would two of these work ???? ($470)

They will, but with just a dial you have no immediate feedback that something is wrong. It's personal preference, but i'd go for something that either makes it obvious that your running in the danger zone, or that gives you some sort of alert or alarm.

The second choice autometers that I posted are obviously a little more pricy, but with peak hold an alarms they are ideal for tuning things and knowing when something is wrong:

Quoting: Titsy

2x http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto+Meter/105/3378/10002/-1 $620 total

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Post by: Roadkill on November 07, 2013, 02:56:58 pm

Ahh, I get ya . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

$20 cheaper at Summit ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/atm-3378/overview/

(I must admit I've stopped even looking at Jegs, now - they're always more expensive and the International shipping prices and options are rubbish)

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Post by: Titsy on November 07, 2013, 04:19:51 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

$20 cheaper at Summit

Yeah, I didn;t really shopp around as I figured you'd do that. I don;t really rate Jegs, but linked to them as when I went bake in this thread to find what gauge series you had you had links to Jegs.

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Post by: Andy on November 07, 2013, 04:24:49 pm

RK,

I'm on my phone at the minute and loading up pages is taking yonks, can you tell me what ignition system you're using? Does it use any of the original ECU?

I'm planning something...

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Post by: Titsy on November 07, 2013, 04:59:37 pm

No ECU, just a HEI dizzy

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Post by: Roadkill on November 07, 2013, 05:05:32 pm

Quoting: Andy

can you tell me what ignition system you're using?

A key. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Quoting: Andy

Does it use any of the original ECU?

Would be difficult - that went out in a Tesco's carrier bag 7 years ago. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

This project really wasn't planned.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Andy on November 07, 2013, 06:20:10 pm

I have the option to pick up a 70-80's block 350 which was built for a company to test parts on. Waiting to hear more details about it, the selling part would be it being a 4 bolt mains.

Now I'm trying to work out how I would run it, ECU, HEI dizzy etc.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 08, 2013, 12:08:27 am

Don't get hung up on a 4-bolt. Really. Unless your stroking and going for 800bhp it really isn't necessary.

If you do, carb it.

EDIT

I should also add that your axle casings will fail before your 2-bolt mains do . . . as is likely your prop and gearbox . . .

In other words . . Build from the back to the front !! Not the other way around !!!

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Post by: Andy on November 08, 2013, 03:12:54 pm

This has been on my mind. I have no idea how much a new rear end will cost, but am looking for something with a Posi in it.

My gearbox is a 700R4 which is effectively what the 4L60E is in a LS1 just without the electronic control. At least thats what I read.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 08, 2013, 04:24:41 pm

Quoting: Andy

This has been on my mind. I have no idea how much a new rear end will cost, but am looking for something with a Posi in it.

You can fit an LSD to your axle . . . It depends on what ratio's you're running (and what diameter you've got) as to whether it's worth it or not.

That won't protect your casing, though. A common fault is a failure at the point the tubular axle cases go into the gear housing casting.

Quoting: Andy

My gearbox is a 700R4

Good box but if you're gonna be flexing a 350/4-Bolt's muscles then you want a TH350. No question.

EDIT -

If you wanna go fast a 4-bolt won't get you there, not on it's own. The third gens are (relatively) light cars and respond well to suspension upgrades. If you want to shave time off of your 1/4 mile I'd STRONGLY suggest sinking £300-£500 quid into suspension, not double that on a 350.

Just my opinion. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Andy on November 08, 2013, 04:52:40 pm

Thanks RK!

I'm completely open to suggestions at this point. I do want to make it a pretty quick 1/4 mile car but one which is streetable. After seeing the woes my dad has with his lowered the suspension isn't going any lower but I am open to considering upgrading it.

Apart from losing weight, what advantages do tubular K-members give over the pressed steel ones?

The TH350 lacks the overdrive which I'd like to keep. I do intend to keep it as a bit of a cruiser so don't fancy losing the .75 drive. As it stands, it has 3.23 gears and a standard axle. Can't remember for the life of me what spec that means it is though.

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Post by: Titsy on November 08, 2013, 05:28:35 pm

I think the biggest gains I made in reducing my times were in getting it to launch better. I's say a posi, Rear LCA relocation brackets, LCA's, torque arm and panard were a good place to start. I shaved over 0.5 seconds off my time by doing this as a good launch pays dividends.

If you've got plans to add power later then make sure the drive-train is fit for the job.

By changing the rear end LCA geometry so that it angles down towards the rear the axle has to push the rear of the car up in order to move forward. this results in the rubber being planted into the tarmac and you get much better traction off the line.

If your after a meaty trans but still with the OD then this guy builds a pretty robust 700r4:

https://www.700r4l60e.com/store/product.php?productid=10&cat=1&page=1&featured

A higher stall TC will help too as it will put you up in the power band sooner.

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Post by: Roadkill on November 08, 2013, 05:41:06 pm

Quoting: Titsy

I's say a posi, Rear LCA relocation brackets, LCA's, torque arm and panard were a good place to start

Absolutely (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)

I'd also had shocks and springs . . .

From memory didn't you say your Dad's had dropped spindles ? - They're asking for trouble !!!
I've got Eibach lowering springs on mine with plenty of room (it's the headers that kill my clearance - NOT the springs).

I've got Tokico adjustable shocks so you can "dial-in" the stiffness level . . . good price, too.

What size tyres are you running atm ?

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Post by: Roadkill on November 11, 2013, 03:16:59 pm

Getting back to the A/F gauges . . .

I've found the Innovate controller/sensors for £128, each, delivered. Total £256.

Speedhut actually ship to the U.K so their price would be $261.90 delivered (+TAXES).
I've found these on eBay for £131.01, delivered, but reckon getting them from the states would work out a little cheaper . . even with the taxes added.

Also found the dual gauge pod on eBay (US) for £29.18 delivered (+TAXES) (same price as Summit but the shipping is half the price !)

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Post by: Titsy on November 11, 2013, 05:11:21 pm

http://www.mkb.cc/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=4&topic=12004&page=0#1 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Ralph on January 08, 2014, 01:19:37 pm

THIS.CAR.IS.AWESOME!

Loving the work you have done to this chap it's going to be a weapon!

MOT = Road time! Can't wait to see it tearing up the streets of the Keynes when she is running good!

Not enough awesome shit in MK.

Don't rush getting it on the road though as like you said above you want to make sure she is running sweet! But, god damn when that thing hits the streets it's gonna be EPIC!

Would love to have a snoop round it some time soon!

Let us all know when you decided to take it to a meet or show as I just gotta see that thing rolling!

Keep it up mate the end is in sight!

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Post by: Roadkill on January 08, 2014, 01:37:50 pm

Quoting: Ralph

Would love to have a snoop round it some time soon!

She's in storage over winter but she'll be back at mine in Furzton once I've sold a van I have and have gained an extra parking space back. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

I know I'm going to need to re-visit the exhaust again but will wait for warmer weather . . . Hoping it don't cost too much as well. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Andy on January 08, 2014, 01:45:21 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

I know I'm going to need to re-visit the exhaust again but will wait for warmer weather . . . Hoping it don't cost too much as well.

Whats the plan with that or is nothing drawn up yet?

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Post by: Roadkill on January 08, 2014, 01:59:34 pm

I've been trying (unsuccessfully) NOT to think about it . . .

The cross-over box is a clearance issue but is needed - really - as I said to you regarding cross-overs.

That said mine's far from stock so I may (as an experiment) try and run two straight tubes behind the collectors and just dump them downwards to the road.

The back-pressure is going to be seriously reduced so I'd only do it when I'm able to keep an eye on the AF ratio . . . (which is more money).

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

I'm directing some big money towards the Cadillac this year so want to get that under way . . . hopefully by Spring I can find a few hundred to sort some AFR sensors and gauges . . .

As I say, though . . I'm trying not to think about it at the moment - I've got too much going round in my melon at the moment !!!

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Post by: Ralph on January 08, 2014, 03:04:24 pm

Just slap some screamers on there and get yourself on the road! haha

Yes won't be the best performance wise for the car but you must be gagging to get that thing on the road!

It's an all motor car isn't it no turbos or such so hasn't got to be that complex?

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Post by: Roadkill on January 08, 2014, 03:16:16 pm

My issue is the long tube headers being so low . . . They said it was gonna be a PITA but I did it anyway ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

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Post by: Ralph on January 08, 2014, 03:36:34 pm

Just leave them open where they fall the noise alone will be well worth it! ;)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 08, 2014, 03:41:35 pm

Alas, the burnt valves won't be so good, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Ralph on January 08, 2014, 04:23:30 pm

No squeezing as much exhaust in there as possible would be a good idea

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Post by: Roadkill on February 12, 2014, 02:02:56 pm

Sh!t ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

Was just flicking through my PB library and came across this one from the Spring Nats in '05.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/SpringNats0598.jpg)

Pre-LSD, of course . . . . .

Nearly 9 years ago . . . Yeah, yeah. It makes me feel old. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/old.gif)

Good times . . . . In fact, just before it all went to the crapper, with regards to us and the AACI. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Hopefully similar scenes in the Camaro this year . . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 28, 2014, 11:43:21 am

Insured for another year . . . . MoT'ed until end of October . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

It's crying out for 6 months tax, really. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Incursus on April 28, 2014, 01:38:27 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It's crying out for 6 months tax, really.

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Post by: Andy on April 28, 2014, 01:54:50 pm

If you taxed that today, you could run it at the pod this weekend, then drive it to the South Bucks meet in two weeks time AND THEN to Jacks Hill Cafe meet the Friday following!

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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 28, 2014, 02:03:37 pm

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Post by: Roadkill on April 28, 2014, 06:11:12 pm

Quoting: Andy

you could run it at the pod this weekend

Not from Ibiza I couldn't (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Besides, due to work commitments I've not been getting home til around 8pm most nights recently . . . I just can't be arsed to go anywhere after that.

Weekends aren't safe at the moment, either. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/work.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

EDIT - As it happens, I HAVE taxed it.

I plan to run it (potentially) for 6 months (may, June, July, Aug, Sept & Oct), which should fall in nicely with when the MoT's due (end of Oct).

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Post by: Andy on April 29, 2014, 09:02:06 am

Well I'll be at Jacks Hill Cafe for the May meet, weather permitting as I'm meeting Colin Theobald there to do a bunch of photos and get some info about his car for a feature.

Two birds, one stone? Could include it in the feature :)

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Post by: Roadkill on April 29, 2014, 05:54:53 pm

Quoting: Andy

May meet

What date's that ?

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Post by: Andy on April 29, 2014, 07:55:50 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

What date's that ?

Friday 9th May

Then the following Tuesday will be the South Bucks meet, got those two the wrong way round.

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Post by: Roadkill on May 01, 2014, 07:41:18 am

Quoting: Andy

Friday 9th May

I'm still on holiday, then (get back on Saturday).

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Post by: Roadkill on June 04, 2014, 02:52:31 pm

Further to a conversation on FB, I've realised that I really need to pull my finger out and get the Camaro done.

In my defense . . . ah, well, let's not bother . . . I've just got horny for doing the Caddy and let myself get carried away.

I'll be seeing Stromberg regarding the Caddy's intake on Friday but will tell them to hold fire for a bit to let me get some cash together (depending on how long they think it'll take) so I can spend some money on the Camaro.

Based on previous conversations on here, Titsy recommended 2 "Innovate" controllers to read the A/F mix (one for each bank).

I found these in the U.K, here :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300977237961?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

I'll need two suitable gauges (again, one for each bank) and I decided I preferred these two from Titsy's recommendations :

http://www.speedhut.com/gauge/GR-AFWB-01/1/Air-Fuel-Gauge-Wide-Band-10-18-(w--warning)-(FOR-INNOVATE)

I'll need an A-pillar pod to mount the gauges (no room on the dash) and Speedhut sell these, too (saves shipping) :

http://www.speedhut.com/ecommerce/product/548/Chevrolet-Camaro-1982-1992-Hard-Top-Triple-Full-Pillar-(LHD)

Note that the cluster is a triple-pod for three gauges . . . Well, It makes sense to fit a Vacuum gauge to aid set-up and makes even more sense to go for a Vacuum AND boost gauge to cover all eventualities . . . ! :

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/atm-2601/overview/

That should cover everything . . . . except the mods to the exhaust system itself, of course . . . but that should be pretty cheap. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on June 04, 2014, 03:42:16 pm

Is there not another gauge from speedhut you could use for vac/boost to keep a uniform look? Am I right in thinking you have mechanical gauges for nitrous and fuel pressure under the cowl?

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Post by: Roadkill on June 04, 2014, 06:03:31 pm

Quoting: Titsy

Is there not another gauge from speedhut you could use for vac/boost to keep a uniform look?

They do a vacuum only / boost only IIRC . . . plus it's an electrical feed which I think is unnecessary and works out twice the price . . .

Quoting: Titsy

Am I right in thinking you have mechanical gauges for nitrous and fuel pressure under the cowl?

Yes / no . . . I have a mechanical pressure gauge for NOS on the bottle, plus 2 fuel pressure gauges (one for the fuel line and one for the NOS fuel line) . . . I figure it'd highlight fluctuations and be a back-up if one failed.

Funnily enough I've put 2 electrical-fed gauges on my wish list at Summit today to replace them but they're over $200 EACH so will be a luxury item later on . . . Must admit, I'd prefer the gauges visible in the car . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on June 19, 2014, 11:43:28 am

O.K - Taking full advantage of what will probably be my last massively-high-mileage month (aka mega expenses) - I've now ordered :

Quoting: Roadkill

Based on previous conversations on here, Titsy recommended 2 "Innovate" controllers to read the A/F mix (one for each bank).

I found these in the U.K, here :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300977237961?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

And

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll need two suitable gauges (again, one for each bank) and I decided I preferred these two from Titsy's recommendations :

http://www.speedhut.com/gauge/GR-AFWB-01/1/Air-Fuel-Gauge-Wide-Band-10-18-(w--warning)-(FOR-INNOVATE)

And

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll need an A-pillar pod to mount the gauges (no room on the dash) and Speedhut sell these, too (saves shipping) :

http://www.speedhut.com/ecommerce/product/548/Chevrolet-Camaro-1982-1992-Hard-Top-Triple-Full-Pillar-(LHD)

. . . .

I still intend to buy the vacuum / boost gauge, too, but need to let the dust settle, first. Especially with the Engine crane / load leveler purchase yesterday !!!

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Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2014, 09:42:35 am

The Speedhut gauges are made to order and I had a notification earlier from DHL telling me that they've now been shipped (along with the triple pod).

The Innovate controllers have already arrived so the next piece of the puzzle is the vacuum/boost gauge from Summit . . . .

I'd previously fitted two mechanical fuel pressure gauges under the hood, inline . . one on the fuel line and one on the dedicated NOS fuel line . . . of course, the theory is that these should always be the same but I fitted one on each to check for fluctuations (which there are) . . .

This set-up is great, but I could really do with seeing what's going on in the car . . . So I've found a kit that reads the pressure using a electronic sensor to a gauge (so it's safe to mount inside the car) . . . .

My thinking is that I'll keep the inline mechanical one on the regular fuel line for setting and adjusting the regulator and replace the other on the NOS fuel line so I can see that inside the car . . . the reading from that will tell me any obvious issues (ie. fuel pressure or no fuel pressure) but when NOS is being used will be imperative in insuring I don't cook the motor.

The downside is that this new fuel pressure set-up will cost another $270 (+shipping) and it obviously makes sense to order it with the other bits from Summit.

Money's tight this month so it'll have to wait until payday unless I can sell some $hit on eBay . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 11, 2014, 03:28:56 pm

Less than a pages' worth of posts in 6 months . . pretty poor.

C.P's right, I'm slacking !!

Anyway, to keep him happy some updates on the Camaro front . . .

2 x Innovate A/F Controllers have arrived . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG0606_zps5952fa50.jpg)

Speedhut has also graced me with two of their A/F gauges and a triple-pillar-pod . . . oddly enough though the 2 1/16" gauges struggle to fit in their 2 1/16" pods once you start securing them in . . . So looks like I'll be doing a little modifying, there . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG0676_zps6939c87b.jpg)

Next on the list will be the Vacuum / Boost gauge (to fit in the pillar pod), Electronic fuel pressure sensor and gauge kit plus Dash-mount pod (I'll just screw it on to the top of the dash) - All that front Summit.

I'll order that on Monday, once I've moved some money about . . . . Then it's some more exhaust bits . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on July 11, 2014, 09:57:58 pm

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Mmmm new stuff mmmm.

I really need to think about ordering and shipping my gauges from Summit.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 17, 2014, 09:52:16 am

Quoting: Roadkill

Next on the list will be the Vacuum / Boost gauge (to fit in the pillar pod), Electronic fuel pressure sensor and gauge kit plus Dash-mount pod (I'll just screw it on to the top of the dash) - All that front Summit.

Now ordered.

Once it arrives I'll bring the Camaro back to Castle Roadkill and start fitting it all.

I'll also measure up for the next generation in the exhaust system, too . . . the exhaust parts are all U.K-based so I'm hoping I'll be able to turn that part around pretty quick . . . .

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Post by: Andy on July 17, 2014, 11:40:38 am

Quoting: Roadkill

I'll also measure up for the next generation in the exhaust system, too . . . the exhaust parts are all U.K-based so I'm hoping I'll be able to turn that part around pretty quick . . . .

I've just picked up a Hedman Hedders set of headers and y-pipe if you would like to have a look / use for measurements?

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Post by: Roadkill on July 17, 2014, 02:15:08 pm

Thanks but they'd be no good to me . . . the LT1 has different sized (and shaped) exhaust ports so you're limited on what headers you can have with a LT1-in-a-third-gen combo.

I want to keep with the Long-tubes but am going to play with header extensions without a cross-over.

It's only money ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

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Post by: Andy on July 17, 2014, 10:31:18 pm

Ah yeah, forgot about that.

Well anyway, they're sat in a box at the moment, so if they're any use at all feel free to give me a shout.

I've got a few things lining up at the moment and I'm undecided which way to take things... i'll update my thread now. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Ralph on July 28, 2014, 11:46:04 am

Really looking forward to seeing this one day! Keep at it chap as it's going to be one mean motor once you are done! (Is anyone ever really done with a project?)

Got to push to get it rumbling round at least once this year ;)

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Post by: Roadkill on July 29, 2014, 08:29:27 am

More shiny things arrived over the weekend . . . I must admit I'm struggling to find time to do anything this year.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Childcare has become an issue, meaning I typically have to look after the little'un all weekend almost every weekend . . . when he was younger you could plonk him down and he'd watch his DVD's so I could get on . . now he just wants to be outside "helping" - which is great, but his "help" typically triples the time a job would take (or makes it simply impossible to do safely).

With a bit of luck things should be more settled by September or October but that ain't gonna help getting the Camaro finished or the Caddy started . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Hey-ho . . here's the shiny things . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG0757_zpsb964e861.jpg)

That's now all the stuff I need from the states for the Camaro . . . The rest I should be able to buy here or make.

I'm hoping to bring the Camaro back home in the next couple of weeks and get these bits fitted . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on September 16, 2014, 12:48:54 pm

Most would be thinking that I've given up and lost interest in the Z28 entirely.

On the outside of things, you'd be forgiven, too.

However, the amount of obstacles I've had this year is shocking . . . Ignoring work, family and other commitments, the car is now 5 miles away from me in a garage I don't have comfortable access to whenever I like.

That said, 5 months ago I bought road tax and when I had some spare time I went over to charge the battery . . . Long story short, after trying every setting on 3 different battery chargers AND trying for an hour to jump-start her I've come to the conclusion that she's killed a SECOND battery !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wall.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG0907_zpse37c9172.jpg)

She's now had (and killed) 2 decent quality batteries and I'm baffled. I obviously don't want to spend a fortune on a third, only for it to happen again so the best I can do is put a cheapie on there and manually disconnect it before any period of storage.

There's something very screwy going on.

I'm now left with just weeks of useable weather but still no time to put into getting her any further forward.

As mentioned above, I HAVE been buying stuff in readiness, but I think the best I can hope for is to do the work over winter . . . maybe . . . if I get the time.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

To add to the pile of stuff, I've ordered some bits for the "next generation" of exhaust . . . This will be made up pretty much entirely to aid tuning the motor but I'll test it on the open road, as well just to see what happens . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG0892_zps536621b1.jpg)

I've also had a response regarding the replacement hood . . . I need to make a phone call . . .

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Post by: Cunning Plan on September 16, 2014, 02:20:51 pm

Still reading this project with interest!

I know you won't give up, but I honestly do not know how you find the time to do anything with this project when you already have so many others as well. So, the fact that you are saying that you do not have the time, yet you somehow push it slightly further forward is impressive.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

When this one is finished, or as finished as you would like or can go with, what will it be used for?

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Post by: Roadkill on September 16, 2014, 03:22:45 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

what will it be used for?

It'll be occasional "general" use and I'll run it down the strip, too . . . see how that bug bites.

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Post by: Andy on September 16, 2014, 05:39:49 pm

With only a couple of weekends left of RWYBs at the Pod, fancy coming up on Saturday 27th September for the Saturday Night Special? I'm going to be gunning for the 15s with my stock 305 engine.

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Post by: ianjpage on September 16, 2014, 09:34:13 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

That said, 5 months ago I bought road tax and when I had some spare time I went over to charge the battery . . . Long story short, after trying every setting on 3 different battery chargers AND trying for an hour to jump-start her I've come to the conclusion that she's killed a SECOND battery !

How the heck's it killed another battery, especially a deep cycle one, something must be slowly and consistently draining it somewhere....

Quoting: Roadkill

To add to the pile of stuff, I've ordered some bits for the "next generation" of exhaust . . . This will be made up pretty much entirely to aid tuning the motor but I'll test it on the open road, as well just to see what happens . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Titsy on September 17, 2014, 09:29:42 pm

Should be easy to narrow down as it could only be what's been connected to the battery side of the cut-out... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: art b on September 17, 2014, 09:57:11 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

she's killed a SECOND battery !

disconnect the battery when not in use....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: F Body on September 18, 2014, 06:03:59 am

Quoting: art b

disconnect the battery when not in use....

I bought one these couple months ago (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231244915669?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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Post by: Roadkill on September 18, 2014, 08:30:59 am

It's not a simple task to disconnect the battery when it's hidden under all of the plastic rear trim in the boot.

It's looking like that's the way forwards, though.

I tried to use the "Recondition" setting on my charger last night but it did the same thing . . . got to a certain point, then errored-out.

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Post by: Jamieg285 on September 18, 2014, 12:34:48 pm

What about fitting a racing style disconnect switch, somewhere more accessible?

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Post by: Cunning Plan on September 19, 2014, 06:33:04 am

Quoting: Jamieg285

What about fitting a racing style disconnect switch, somewhere more accessible?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on September 19, 2014, 02:35:45 pm

Quoting: Jamieg285

What about fitting a racing style disconnect switch, somewhere more accessible?

That was kinda what I was thinking but there's not a lot of space on the rear panel to mount one to . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I'm thinking something like this and then mount it underneath the car, behind the bumper . . . ?

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/sum-830050/overview/

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Post by: Roadkill on October 31, 2014, 11:10:33 am

Well, complete failure on my part this year. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

Work has dominated pretty-much everything for me this year, meaning the little time I had left has been mainly put into "family time".

That said it's still a failure. Progress on the Camaro - ignoring some fairly major purchases - has been zero.

6 months ago I bought tax to see me to the start of November and here I am with the car not even moving an inch since being parked up over a year ago.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Progress on the Caddy is also behind (not entirely my fault) but that's a different story.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

I need to address work issues over the winter . . . I'm not happy with the amount of time I put in (ie. the little amount of "free" time it allows me) so I either cut back next year or I find a less demanding job.

Work to live, not live to work and all of that . . . .

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

I don't think it's helped having the Camaro stored away from home, either . . it's not far away, but there's no constant reminders and it's too easy to forget it even exists.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono.gif)

2014 has been my worst year for progress ever.

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Post by: Roadkill on January 13, 2015, 06:28:01 pm

I'm currently compiling a shopping list of stuff to compliment the bits I bought last year (but didn't fit) for the Camaro.

I think, looking at things realistically, the Cadillac project won't be started this year as I still have two major purchases before I allow myself to start (Carburetion and suspension) so it makes sense that I concentrate on (finally) finishing the Camaro.

It's still too cold to actually start doing anything physical so I may as well buy the bits in readiness.

Here's to hoping 2015 is more successful than 2014 . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on January 13, 2015, 08:03:43 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It's still too cold to actually start doing anything physical so I may as well buy the bits in readiness.

Surprised, I did not think the cold would bother you? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

I think, looking at things realistically, the Cadillac project won't be started this year as I still have two major purchases before I allow myself to start (Carburetion and suspension) so it makes sense that I concentrate on (finally) finishing the Camaro.

Still impressive project management buddy, two major projects, plus other small projects you have completed whilst working on them and other usual commitments. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 14, 2015, 09:19:50 am

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Surprised, I did not think the cold would bother you?

Hmm. Yes and No.

If I'm motivated and enthusiastic then, no, the cold I can deal with . . .

Problem is, at the moment, I'm motivated but need to generate the required amount of enthusiasm - one without the other's no good in cold weather. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Add to that that I cracked a bone in my hand, just behind the knuckle in a couple of places late last month and the cold just antagonises it at the moment.

I lost the plot a bit in 2014 so am just gonna make sure I ease into it this year . . .

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Post by: Ralph on January 14, 2015, 09:27:41 am

Right!

MOT'd and Taxed last year but didn't go anywhere...

Surely this is the year of the Cammy!

I think you need to make a rolling jobs list, each forum post should be updated with the jobs listed and each one crossed off with each post.

Targets & deadlines man! That's what we need (we don't care what you need) haha

But honestly, if you need some labour to help get it done, don't hesitate to rally the troops and throw a spanner party. Would love to see this out and being enjoyed this year. Just re read the whole thread, get that timing sorted and have some fun!

From MK to most of the local meets there are no speed bumps ;)

Shout if you need a hand! Even if it's just so we stand there make tea and shout motivational quotes at you.

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Post by: Roadkill on January 14, 2015, 09:51:41 am

Hahahahaha. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

O.K, then. The list (as I remember it) :

* Buy / Replace battery (purchase lined up for this month)
* ~~Buy /~~ install (exterior) battery kill switch ~~(purchase lined up for this month)~~
* Remove existing exhaust system (long story - I think I've explained ?)
* Measure up for new pipes / design new stubby pipes
* Buy / make remaining bits needed for exhaust (bends, straights & flanges)
* TiG together and install
* Fit Sensors to exhaust, run wiring inside of car
* install both controllers inside car in accessible position, wire up
* Remove D/S A-pillar cover, test fit new triple-pod pillar, test fit gauges
* Install 2 x A/F gauges, 1 x vac gauge to pods, run lines, install pillar
* Replace manual fuel pressure gauge under bonnet with take-off
* Install fuel pressure gauge in car, run lines to take-off and wire up
* Remove clutch pedal, mark up for cutting (it's never been right)
* cut/weld clutch pedal, paint and replace
* Remove rear harness points
* Design and make strengthened harness points
* Paint and replace
* Trim (and cap) bolts protruding on the underside of car (under seats)
* POR15 missed areas under wheel arches
* Front wheel liners (what to do) ???
* Repair hood (I'll need to have a strengthening plate made, too)
* Respray hood (got the paint already)
* Investigate gauges (some behave oddly)

That's all I can think of for now . . . . Oh, yeah -

* Time / tune
* MoT & Tax
* Try not to crash it !!

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Post by: ianjpage on January 14, 2015, 04:53:05 pm

that's a fairly long list (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

But means more tinkering with cars time (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 14, 2015, 05:37:05 pm

It's not actually that bad . . . Not too much fabrication so that's a bonus !

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Post by: ianjpage on January 14, 2015, 06:44:11 pm

Yeah very true just a fair bit of tinkering (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Ralph on January 16, 2015, 07:55:36 am

Woohoo!!

Excellent, that list isn't too bad actually. The last one may be the hardest part haha

There are a few bits on that list you can do once she's been smoked about a bit.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

Got any pics of the damaged hod? Don't think I saw any posted?

Can see you and the Caddy about 8 or so minutes in to this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdbpuozrmg8

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Post by: Roadkill on January 16, 2015, 03:19:33 pm

Quoting: Ralph

Got any pics of the damaged hod?

No, From the top it looks O.K (minor cracks) but there's a nasty crack underneath that'll need sorting.

Quoting: Ralph

Can see you and the Caddy about 8 or so minutes in to this!

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One of the Caddy's few outings last year . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on January 16, 2015, 05:26:47 pm

Quoting: Ralph

Can see you and the Caddy about 8 or so minutes in to this!

Where? I missed it? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

Quoting: Ralph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdbpuozrmg8

Great video, thanks for posting! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 20, 2015, 08:47:55 pm

For Ralph - just a few purchases . . . but I'm warming up. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

O.K, then. The list (as I remember it) :

* ~~Buy /~~ Replace battery
* ~~Buy /~~ install (exterior) battery kill switch
* Remove existing exhaust system (long story - I think I've explained ?)
* Measure up for new pipes / design new stubby pipes
* Buy / make remaining bits needed for exhaust (bends, straights & flanges)
* TiG together and install
* Fit Sensors to exhaust, run wiring inside of car
* install both controllers inside car in accessible position, wire up
* Remove D/S A-pillar cover, test fit new triple-pod pillar, test fit gauges
* Install 2 x A/F gauges, 1 x vac gauge to pods, run lines, install pillar
* Replace manual fuel pressure gauge under bonnet with take-off
* Install fuel pressure gauge in car, run lines to take-off and wire up
* Remove clutch pedal, mark up for cutting (it's never been right)
* cut/weld clutch pedal, paint and replace
* Remove rear harness points
* Design and make strengthened harness points
* Paint and replace
* Trim (and cap) bolts protruding on the underside of car (under seats)
* POR15 missed areas under wheel arches
* Front wheel liners (what to do) ???
* Repair hood (I'll need to have a strengthening plate made, too)
* Respray hood (got the paint already)
* Investigate gauges (some behave oddly)

That's all I can think of for now . . . . Oh, yeah -

* Time / tune
* MoT & Tax
* Try not to crash it !!

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Post by: Ralph on January 22, 2015, 08:18:24 am

Good man! See that's instant progress haha

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Post by: Roadkill on January 22, 2015, 12:03:29 pm

I just bought the last bits for the next, next, next generation of exhaust pipe (or at the least the pipes I need for testing the A/F mix).

This design is just an extension to the collectors, no cross-over and dumping down on to the road . . . fairly un-glamorous but it'll ensure free-flowing gas while I play with the tuning and mix etc . . .

I do need to have the collector flanges made, though, so need to measure these and do a design . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

EDIT - the stuff I ordered from Summit is now in the country and the tax and duty is pre-paid so I should have that early next week.

I reckon I'll be ready to go as soon as the warmer weather arrives (or when the Camaro gets evicted from its current home). (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 25, 2015, 12:39:58 am

Hopefully the beginning of a good year, project-wise but I/we actually made some progress on the Camaro !

Ha ! Never saw that coming did ya !?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

I spent about an hour Friday night fitting the 2 x A/F gauges and the boost gauge into the triple-pod pillar cluster . . . bit of Dremeling needed but all O.K.

Spent about 5 hours solid doing bits and bobs, with Ian's assistance earlier . . . Some generally good - albeit not earth-shattering - progress.

No photos but we got the A-pillar cover off and modified to take the new triple-pod, got that and the gauges physically installed, got the new fuel pressure gauge and its pod mounted to the dash, removed the dash-pad and modified it enough so it would fit back into place with the new pods and wiring in place . . . I've also ordered a couple of minor bits in order to get the new gauges connected . . .

Next job will be to start plumbing the take-off for the fuel pressure gauge and running the cables / lines from the other new gauges while Ian faffs with the wiring.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

* Buy / Replace battery (purchase lined up for this month)
* ~~Buy /~~ install (exterior) battery kill switch ~~(purchase lined up for this month)~~
* Remove existing exhaust system (long story - I think I've explained ?)
* Measure up for new pipes / design new stubby pipes
* ~~Buy /~~ make remaining bits needed for exhaust ~~(bends, straights &~~ flanges)
* TiG together and install
* Fit Sensors to exhaust, run wiring inside of car
* install both controllers inside car in accessible position, wire up
* Remove D/S A-pillar cover, test fit new triple-pod pillar, test fit gauges
* Install 2 x A/F gauges, 1 x vac gauge to pods, run lines, install pillar
* Replace manual fuel pressure gauge under bonnet with take-off
* ~~Install fuel pressure gauge in car~~, run lines to take-off and wire up
* Remove clutch pedal, mark up for cutting (it's never been right)
* cut/weld clutch pedal, paint and replace
* Remove rear harness points
* Design and make strengthened harness points
* Paint and replace
* Trim (and cap) bolts protruding on the underside of car (under seats)
* POR15 missed areas under wheel arches
* Front wheel liners (what to do) ???
* Repair hood (I'll need to have a strengthening plate made, too)
* Respray hood (got the paint already)
* Investigate gauges (some behave oddly)

That's all I can think of for now . . . . Oh, yeah -

* Time / tune
* MoT & Tax
* Try not to crash it !!

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Post by: Ralph on January 27, 2015, 08:35:11 am

Top stuff mate!!!

Satisfying seeing that list get smashed out too!! Keep at it mate.

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Post by: Roadkill on January 28, 2015, 03:34:37 pm

Well, nothing's ever simple . . . I must've spent around 2 hours figuring out the best / best looking / cheapest approach to getting the vacuum line from the new gauge to connect to the engine . . I've ordered a collection of odds and sods from eBay and think I've covered it.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

I've also drawn up 2 different drawings for the new header flanges, printed each at actual size and cut them out ready to offer up.

Based on this I've also ordered a small piece of 6mm 304 Stainless plate so it'll be ready to go once I've confirmed which of the templates are O.K.

On a completely separate note, I've also bought a pair of black fishnet tights . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/gay.gif) . . more on that, later.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 29, 2015, 12:30:37 am

Another £120 in "bits" spent today . . . I do keep kidding myself when I say there's nothing left to buy BUT, there really isn't anything left to buy, now.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 29, 2015, 08:02:13 am

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crossed.gif) that's the last bit of spending

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Post by: Roadkill on January 29, 2015, 09:50:29 am

It'd be nice, yeah. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Hadn't budgeted any money at all in January for the Camaro but ended up feeling guilty and decided to act on it . . . . with the new battery it's got up to over £400 this month !

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)

I need to draw a line somewhere . . . probably a few grand ago. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)

Anyway, Friday, Sammy's working til 6.15pm so I *plan* to be back over at around 6.30pm . . . hopefully some of the stuff I ordered last night shows up.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on January 29, 2015, 10:07:59 am

This is the problem when you are already financially committed to a project, once you put money in, it is hard to stop and leave it because the money you have already put in would be wasted unless it was finished (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cry.gif)

I'm currently on a unnecessary spending freeze at the moment for certain reasons. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on January 29, 2015, 12:31:00 pm

This month truly has been a typical "little bit here . . . little bit there" kinda thing.

Some of the vacuum fittings were only £4 but once you've bought several to cover (hopefully) any eventuality it really adds up.

My relationship with the Camaro is a bit twisted at the moment . . . I know I need to get her done before I start hating her and there's a real risk of that.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

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Post by: ianjpage on January 29, 2015, 12:36:13 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

It'd be nice, yeah.

Well apart from all the fuel you'll burn when driving her (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

Anyway, Friday, Sammy's working til 6.15pm so I *plan* to be back over at around 6.30pm . . . hopefully some of the stuff I ordered last night shows up.

OK sounds good (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 02, 2015, 10:46:49 am

Quoting: Roadkill

* ~~Buy / Replace battery (purchase lined up for this month)~~ DONE
* ~~Buy / install (exterior) battery kill switch (purchase lined up for this month)~~ (98% DONE)
* Remove existing exhaust system (long story - I think I've explained ?)
* Measure up for new pipes / design new stubby pipes
* Buy / make remaining bits needed for exhaust (bends, straights & flanges)
* TiG together and install
* Fit Sensors to exhaust, run wiring inside of car
* install both controllers inside car in accessible position, wire up
* ~~Remove D/S A-pillar cover, test fit new triple-pod pillar, test fit gauges~~ DONE
* ~~Install 2 x A/F gauges, 1 x vac gauge to pods, run lines, install pillar~~ DONE
* ~~Replace manual fuel pressure gauge under bonnet with take-off~~ DONE
* ~~Install fuel pressure gauge in car, run lines to take-off~~ and wire up - 75%
* Remove clutch pedal, mark up for cutting (it's never been right)
* cut/weld clutch pedal, paint and replace
* Remove rear harness points - STARTED
* Design and make strengthened harness points
* Paint and replace
* Trim (and cap) bolts protruding on the underside of car (under seats)
* POR15 missed areas under wheel arches
* Front wheel liners (what to do) ???
* Repair hood (I'll need to have a strengthening plate made, too)
* Respray hood (got the paint already)
* Investigate gauges (some behave oddly)

* Time / tune
* MoT & Tax
* Try not to crash it !!

Updated. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

That list isn't very fair, as it doesn't show all the work that was involved in fitting the "kill switch" . . . originally I'd planned to fit it on the (-) side of the battery so it just breaks the circuit when switched off but, on doing extensive reading, decided to install it as per the NHRA guidelines on the (+) side so the switch actually kills the car when running . . this meant running a second cable the full length of the car, as well as other alterations.

This isn't for racing purposes, more for peace of mind, security and to reduce the risk of killing the battery while in storage. This set-up still leaves the alternator "live" when the switch is off but that's all.

Quoting: Roadkill

On a completely separate note, I've also bought a pair of black fishnet tights . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/gay.gif) . . more on that, later.

Another, surprisingly time consuming job, not on the list . . . with the ducting, vents and speakers removed from under the dashboard, you can see through the windscreen, through the holes in the dash, to the red (unpainted) bulkhead and the wiring below . . . this always irritated me but not enough to remove the dash pad and actually do anything about it.

Well, fitting the pod and the fuel pressure gauge meant removing the dashpad so out came the fishnets (no, not used these were brand new before you say anything, C.P) . . . with a lot of faffing and a little more adhesive -

Before -

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1123_zps1a09b932.jpg)

After -

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1124_zps500b9cce.jpg)

A pic of the gauges in the main pod after a bit of fettling with the Dremel -

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1118_zpsf57ba995.jpg)

My version of the vacuum take-off for the new boost/vac gauge . . . the AutoMeter supplied Tee-piece was crap !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1125_zps6f6cd74c.jpg)

The sensor thingy for the electronic fuel pressure gauge installed -

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1126_zpsde10f802.jpg)

The kill switch mounted underneath the car -

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1131_zpsaaaefe32.jpg)

Sorry, I know, it needs a clean . . .!

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1129_zps608e564a.jpg)

And finally, another job not on the list . . .

I decided to raise the air cleaner up 1" so the engine got as much of the cool air (theoretically) from the cowl scoop as possible . . . . This, again, took longer that anticipated but now leaves just a few millimetres clearance under the hood . . . It means that I *could* get away with a 3" Cowl if I had to (mine's a 4") by removing the spacer . . . we'll see what happens when I come to repair the hood . . . options, though.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1128_zps4eed78e8.jpg)

The next jobs are to continue with the wiring under the dash, connecting the various bits and bobs up, then move under the car and address the exhaust.

Thanks to Ian for assistance . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 02, 2015, 12:09:24 pm

Great progress! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill

so out came the fishnets (no, not used these were brand new before you say anything, C.P)

Me? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) Pffff, you mean Artb. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)

Have I missed something? What do the fishnets actually do? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 02, 2015, 01:08:12 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Have I missed something? What do the fishnets actually do?

hopefully stop you from seeing -

Quoting: Roadkill

through the windscreen, through the holes in the dash, to the red (unpainted) bulkhead and the wiring below

We'll know soon.

The gaps are bigger than they look and the wiring clearly visible . . . with the fishnets in place it *should* stop you from seeing it at all, but still give the look of the stock dashpad.

Hopefully. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 02, 2015, 03:06:41 pm

Quoting: Roadkill

The gaps are bigger than they look and the wiring clearly visible . . . with the fishnets in place it *should* stop you from seeing it at all, but still give the look of the stock dashpad.

aha! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/thumbsup.gif)

Goth Roadkill? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/stir.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/taunt.gif)

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Post by: Roadkill on February 02, 2015, 05:01:58 pm

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Goth Roadkill?

I was never a Goth . . . . much to my friends at the time's dismay. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)

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Post by: Ralph on February 03, 2015, 12:40:19 pm

Some ace progress chap!

You won't hate it, just make sure you come out to play once it's done! ;)

Motor looks pretty tough!

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Post by: Roadkill on February 05, 2015, 09:22:14 am

5 Jobs on that list all revolve around the exhaust (again) . . . . I think, for my sanity, it makes sense to have a crack at these next . . . there's also a few other jobs that involve jacking the car up that could be tackled at the same time relatively quickly.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

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Post by: Ralph on March 13, 2015, 01:06:15 pm

It's been well over 4 weeks now... Come on man! 4 weeks until the V8UK Full Power Launch event! :D :D :D

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Post by: Roadkill on March 16, 2015, 11:07:18 am

There was some progress, wasn't there ?

:tongue:

Work has been aimed at the garage recently . . . . the Camaro becomes homeless VERY soon so will be back at mine next month . . . I doubt I'll have time to do anything more before then.

:down:

Garage is looking good, though.

:up:

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Post by: Ralph on April 07, 2015, 09:36:04 am

Hope you have been working steady on this so it's ready to roll up on Sunday! That would make me happy!

Seem to remember you turned up to last years FPL in the Caddy!

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Post by: Roadkill on April 08, 2015, 09:22:15 am

Haha, no.

No work on the Camaro, it would've been brought back home by now but I've lost my only free parking space to the wife's new car, meaning I have to get other projects (ie. the garage floor) finished to get a space back !

The meet over in Aylesbury is on my radar but I've got a lot on at the moment, plus it'll mean leaving the missus and nipper at home OR taking two cars as the Caddy is not kiddie-friendly.

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Post by: Ralph on April 09, 2015, 08:18:17 am

Ah that's a shame, one day I will see that Camaro in action! haha

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Post by: Roadkill on May 15, 2015, 08:46:35 am

The floor in the garage is finished, meaning the Cadillac is back in the garage, meaning I've gained a parking space back, meaning the Camaro is back home !!!

Although brought back on a trailer (cheaper than taxing and MoT'ing) she did drive on and off the trailer under her own power (looks like we've finally cured that mysterious battery-draining problem as the battery had sat for 5 months untouched) although she did pop a 5A fuse to the fuel pump.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1568_zps4ezabhm6.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/IMAG1568_zps4ezabhm6.jpg.html)

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Post by: Cunning Plan on May 15, 2015, 09:53:10 am

Quote from: Roadkill on May 15, 2015, 08:46:35 am

we've finally cured that mysterious battery-draining problem

:clap3:

Quote from: Roadkill on May 15, 2015, 08:46:35 am

had sat for 5 months untouched

:nono: :rtfm:

Quote from: Roadkill on May 15, 2015, 08:46:35 am

lthough she did pop a 5A fuse to the fuel pump

Frustrating, there is always something.

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Post by: Ralph on May 28, 2015, 10:03:51 am

ITS HOME! And looks amazing!

Hope this inspires you to crack on with it!

What's the next move with it?

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Post by: Roadkill on May 28, 2015, 03:53:14 pm

Next jobs are to check that the new engine cut-off switch is working, check the vacuum gauge is receiving a reading . . . . . . after those, there's some wiring that needs to be under behind the dash (IIRC) then more to be put in for the A/F gauges and sensors . . . then jack the car up to start re-re-re-re-addressing the exhaust.

Hopefully put some time in this weekend dependent on weather and child-wrangling arrangements.

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Post by: Roadkill on June 03, 2015, 09:21:22 am

Some good news . . . !

Cut-off switch is working perfectly and kills the motor while running, prevents battery drain when in storage and acts as an additional theft deterrent. 3 x :up: !!!

Vacuum gauge is also getting a reading, too, so this'll help with the tuning later on . . . :up:

Myself and Ian only got about 2-3 hours in on Saturday so Ian was working on wiring for the lighting side of the new gauges while I made up and installed this . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1637_zpstol0xgte.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/IMAG1637_zpstol0xgte.jpg.html)

. . . . under the dashboard - it's the twin controllers which'll be reading the A/F mixture.

Next jobs are to install 4 x relays for the new stuff, wiring to connect it all and then (maybe ???) get the dash pad back on.

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Post by: ianjpage on June 03, 2015, 10:02:10 am

Quote from: Roadkill on June 03, 2015, 09:21:22 am

install 4 x relays for the new stuff, wiring to connect it all and then (maybe ???) get the dash pad back on.

Yup that's the plan, install relays, few more bits for the AF modules and then yeah dash can go back on!!!

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Post by: Roadkill on June 03, 2015, 10:44:01 am

It'll look like a airline cockpit with all those new gauges . . . :tongue:

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Post by: art b on June 03, 2015, 12:34:58 pm

Quote from: Roadkill on June 03, 2015, 10:44:01 am

It'll look like a airline cockpit with all those new gauges . . . :tongue:

:ORIG-pics:

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Post by: Roadkill on June 03, 2015, 01:28:34 pm

I will, once the dash pad is back on. :tongue:

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Post by: art b on June 03, 2015, 01:42:31 pm

:up:

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Post by: FUBAR on June 03, 2015, 10:13:33 pm

This is looking even cooler than before :cool:

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Post by: Titsy on June 04, 2015, 12:20:34 pm

:up:

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Post by: Roadkill on June 22, 2015, 10:10:22 am

After picking the worst possible day, weather-wise, on Saturday we (myself and Ian) did finally manage to get a few bits done on the Camaro.

Not earth shattering - but -

I purchased some black screws to replace those that held the cluster-pod to the A-pillar . . . turns out that they were perfect for holding the original plastic (upper) trim to the new (ally) trim on the doors - so the old, zinc, screws got swapped-out.

O.C.D +1 point.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1769_zps0wwq9wly.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/IMAG1769_zps0wwq9wly.jpg.html)

I replaced the (again zinc) screws in the cluster-pod, and found one I couldn't fit previously (due to it being parked in a garage) so - technically - the cluster fitting was completed.

O.C.D +2 points.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1771_zpsaqecjab2.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/IMAG1771_zpsaqecjab2.jpg.html)

And for anyone wondering about the "fishnet stockings" mentioned earlier - here's what they're for -

With all the ducting removed from the dash, it was previously easy to look through the vent-holes and see the (red) bulkhead and all the new wiring . . . My fishnets prevent this.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1774_zpsbginz8yf.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/IMAG1774_zpsbginz8yf.jpg.html)

While I was faffing about with these trivial bits and bobs, Ian was finalising the wiring for the new gauges to enable the dashpad to go back on. We'd previously modified the D/S front corner to allow a tight fit against the new cluster-pod so knew it'd fit . . . however I had a minor issue when I snagged my stockings (Ooo-er) but that was quickly resolved and the dashpad fitted and fixed down.

ROADHOUSE !!!

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1775_zpsngk7pvoy.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/IMAG1775_zpsngk7pvoy.jpg.html)

Next job(s) required getting under the car and I intend to make some timber ramps to do this (long story) . . . .

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Post by: Roadkill on June 22, 2015, 10:20:06 am

Updated list :

* ~~Buy / Replace battery (purchase lined up for this month)~~
* ~~Buy / install (exterior) battery kill switch (purchase lined up for this month)~~
* Remove existing exhaust system (long story - I think I've explained ?)
* Measure up for new pipes / design new stubby pipes
* Buy / make remaining bits needed for exhaust (bends, straights & flanges)
* TiG together and install
* Fit Sensors to exhaust, run wiring inside of car
* ~~Install both controllers inside car in accessible position, wire up~~
* ~~Remove D/S A-pillar cover, test fit new triple-pod pillar, test fit gauges~~
* ~~Install 2 x A/F gauges, 1 x vac gauge to pods, run lines, install pillar~~
* ~~Replace manual fuel pressure gauge under bonnet with take-off~~
* ~~Install fuel pressure gauge in car, run lines to take-off and wire up~~
* Remove clutch pedal, mark up for cutting (it's never been right)
* cut/weld clutch pedal, paint and replace
* Remove rear harness points
* Design and make strengthened harness points
* Paint and replace
* Trim (and cap) bolts protruding on the underside of car (under seats)
* POR15 missed areas under wheel arches
* Front wheel liners (what to do)
* Repair hood (I'll need to have a strengthening plate made, too)
* Respray hood (got the paint already)
* Investigate gauges (some behave oddly)

That's all I can think of for now . . . . Oh, yeah -

* Time / tune
* MoT & Tax
* Try not to crash it !!

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on June 22, 2015, 07:23:11 pm

Quote from: Roadkill on June 22, 2015, 10:20:06 am

Try not to crash it !!

Yeah.. especially not on its first outing.. :whistle: :tongue:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Ralph on June 24, 2015, 11:51:28 am

That's got to be a couple weekends work! Surely?!?! :p

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Post by: Roadkill on June 24, 2015, 12:20:41 pm

Quote from: Ralph on June 24, 2015, 11:51:28 am

That's got to be a couple weekends work! Surely?!?!

You don't have kids, do you ?

:tongue:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Ralph on June 24, 2015, 01:15:41 pm

Not a chance haha so, with the kids multiplier... are we looking at 4 weeks or 4 years? :p

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Post by: Roadkill on June 24, 2015, 01:42:10 pm

How about somewhere in the middle of those two ?

I'm hoping to attack the harness points and clutch pedal next . . should have a look at that this weekend - both will need a little fab work.

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 29, 2015, 01:27:07 pm

Got a few hours in yesterday with the help of Ian . . . I'm at a stage now where I need to get stuff laser-cut and fabbed up . . . Our workshop is totally rammed so I reckon there'll be quite a wait involved . . .

:(

Still, lots of things off the list :

Updated :

* Buy / Replace battery (purchase lined up for this month)
* Buy / install (exterior) battery kill switch (purchase lined up for this month)
* Remove existing exhaust system (long story - I think I've explained ?)
* Measure up for new pipes / design new stubby pipes
* ~~Buy /~~ make remaining bits needed for exhaust (~~bends, straights &~~ flanges)
* TiG together and install
* Fit Sensors to exhaust, ~~run wiring inside of car~~
* Install both controllers inside car in accessible position, wire up
* Remove D/S A-pillar cover, test fit new triple-pod pillar, test fit gauges
* Install 2 x A/F gauges, 1 x vac gauge to pods, run lines, install pillar
* Replace manual fuel pressure gauge under bonnet with take-off
* Install fuel pressure gauge in car, run lines to take-off and wire up
* Remove clutch pedal, mark up for cutting (it's never been right)
* cut/weld clutch pedal, paint and replace
* Remove rear harness points
* ~~Design and~~ make strengthened harness points
* Paint and replace
* Trim (and cap) bolts protruding on the underside of car (under seats)
* POR15 missed areas under wheel arches
* Front wheel liners (what to do)
* Repair hood (I'll need to have a strengthening plate made, too)
* Respray hood (got the paint already)
* Investigate gauges (some behave oddly)

That's all I can think of for now . . . . Oh, yeah -

* Time / tune
* MoT & Tax
* Try not to crash it !!

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on June 29, 2015, 04:16:26 pm

Quote from: Roadkill on June 22, 2015, 10:10:22 am

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG1775_zpsngk7pvoy.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/IMAG1775_zpsngk7pvoy.jpg.html)

As a gauge pervert, this picture gets me :jerkoff:

So, what have you got there from top left to top right? :pass:

Also, to save me scrolling back through, where did you purchase them from?

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 30, 2015, 02:11:56 pm

Quote from: Cunning Plan on June 29, 2015, 04:16:26 pm

So, what have you got there from top left to top right?

I dunno - I can't remember !!!

Pillar Pod Top to Bottom : A/F Right Bank, A/F Left Bank, Vacuum/Boost.
Dash Pad : (Electric) Fuel Pressure.
Dash Plate (Main) L-R : Speedometer, Tachometer
Dash Plate (Small) L-R : Voltmeter, Oil Pressure, Water Temp, Fuel Gauge.

Quote from: Cunning Plan on June 29, 2015, 04:16:26 pm

Also, to save me scrolling back through, where did you purchase them from?

Most were Autometer, so were a boxed kit on eBay (U.S), the rest from Summit (don't tend to use Jegs anymore). A/F Gauges were from somewhere else (I'd need to scroll back through myself) !!

Switches and warning lights were from Vehicle Wiring Products.

On a side note, I've sent the drawings to the workshop of the bits I need so will just have to sit and wait, now. :can:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on July 01, 2015, 01:28:00 pm

Quote from: Roadkill on June 30, 2015, 02:11:56 pm

Pillar Pod Top to Bottom : A/F Right Bank, A/F Left Bank, Vacuum/Boost.
Dash Pad : (Electric) Fuel Pressure.
Dash Plate (Main) L-R : Speedometer, Tachometer
Dash Plate (Small) L-R : Voltmeter, Oil Pressure, Water Temp, Fuel Gauge.

Nice, although, having the A/F meters one over the other would poke at my OCD as it is like having more importance of one over the other. However, I am not sure where else you would put them, it's pretty crowded! :huh:

Quote from: Roadkill on June 30, 2015, 02:11:56 pm

Most were Autometer, so were a boxed kit on eBay (U.S), the rest from Summit (don't tend to use Jegs anymore). A/F Gauges were from somewhere else (I'd need to scroll back through myself) !!

Switches and warning lights were from Vehicle Wiring Products.

Noted.

Why is the light switch not straight? :pokey:

:stir:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on July 01, 2015, 01:39:45 pm

Quote from: Cunning Plan on July 01, 2015, 01:28:00 pm

However, I am not sure where else you would put them

Exactly, there's really nowhere else.

Quote from: Cunning Plan on July 01, 2015, 01:28:00 pm

Why is the light switch not straight?

The push/pull switch is also a potentiometer that controls the dimness of the dashboard lights (so it will only be straight if the lights are totally dim in the dash)

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on July 01, 2015, 02:02:16 pm

Quote from: Roadkill on July 01, 2015, 01:39:45 pm

The push/pull switch is also a potentiometer that controls the dimness of the dashboard lights (so it will only be straight if the lights are totally dim in the dash)

Aha, the Cherokee's switch is similar, but the rotation controls the interior lights and brightness. Although the symbol is less annoying to be at an angle (similar to this):

(http://www.staticwhich.co.uk/media/images/adhoc/defrost_light-bulb_gallery-319794.jpg)

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Ralph on September 14, 2015, 12:36:47 pm

Has this car not been finished yet? :p

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 06, 2015, 10:15:06 am

No.

No further progress.

It's been my busiest year at work ever, added to the fact that - due to various reasons - the work scheduled on the house in 2016 has been pulled forward to now.

I don't have a lot of spare time at the moment, but what I do, I'm spending on the house.

The Camaro (and Cadillac) (and bike) will have to wait . . . Unfortunately.

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on October 23, 2015, 07:59:40 pm

Having now given up on getting the laser-cutting done I need at work, I've now found a local company who've quoted to cut the bits I need to get the Camaro back on her wheels.

Price is good, I just need to finish one of the designs and run a piece of stainless over to them as they've given me a silly-cheap deal if I supply the material.

I really am hoping, if nothing else, to get her back on her wheels before the end of the year . . . .

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on October 23, 2015, 08:55:58 pm

Oh wow they really being crap and the workshop then :(

least you got somewhere local then...

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 03, 2016, 02:36:09 pm

Quote from: Roadkill on October 23, 2015, 07:59:40 pm

I really am hoping, if nothing else, to get her back on her wheels before the end of the year . . . .

:rolleyes:

I should know better . . . .

I'm still waiting for the bits mentioned above to be done but it "should be this week".

On a separate note I dropped the two harness points off to be stiffened this morning and also the clutch pedal that needs to be modified (should make for faster gear changes).

I'm hoping to have everything back within the next week or so so I can press on . . . .

But, again, :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 04, 2016, 04:19:31 pm

Quote from: Roadkill on February 03, 2016, 02:36:09 pm

On a separate note I dropped the two harness points off to be stiffened this morning and also the clutch pedal that needs to be modified (should make for faster gear changes).

BOOM !

Progress ! :lol:

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160204_1436391_zpsxzpzdbpc.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160204_1436391_zpsxzpzdbpc.jpg.html)

Pedal modified, stiffeners added to harness points. :up:
Will grab a spare few minutes to tidy the welds up and get some paint on them . . . may even look at "the list" again, to see where we are . . . :sofa:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on February 05, 2016, 08:57:33 am

Keep it coming.. :cowboy:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 08, 2016, 06:00:10 pm

Picked up the stainless flanges for the "next generation" exhaust.

Checked and all good . . . need to remind myself what I intended to do so am waiting for a dry weekend day for that so I can crawl under and have a lookie.

Will check my paint stocks so I can linish and generally clean up the harness mounting points and clutch pedal before re-installing.

Not enough time . . . . :smirk:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 10, 2016, 01:32:40 pm

Reminded myself what's going on under the Camaro last night. Also re-painted the clutch pedal so it'll be ready to re-install.

So list updated again :

* ~~Buy / Replace battery~~
* ~~Buy / install (exterior) battery kill switch~~
* ~~Remove existing exhaust system (long story - I think I've explained ?)~~
* ~~Measure up for new pipes / design new stubby pipes~~
* ~~Buy / make remaining bits needed for exhaust (bends, straights & flanges)~~
* TiG together and install
* Fit Sensors to exhaust, run wiring inside of car
* ~~Install both controllers inside car in accessible position, wire up~~
* ~~Remove D/S A-pillar cover, test fit new triple-pod pillar, test fit gauges~~
* ~~Install 2 x A/F gauges, 1 x vac gauge to pods, run lines, install pillar~~
* ~~Replace manual fuel pressure gauge under bonnet with take-off~~
* ~~Install fuel pressure gauge in car, run lines to take-off and wire up~~
* ~~Remove clutch pedal, mark up for cutting (it's never been right)~~
* ~~cut/weld clutch pedal, paint and~~ replace
* ~~Remove rear harness points~~
* ~~Design and make strengthened harness points~~
* Paint and replace
* ~~Trim (and cap) bolts protruding on the underside of car (under seats)~~
* POR15 missed areas under wheel arches
* Front wheel liners (what to do)
* Repair hood (I'll need to have a strengthening plate made, too)
* Respray hood (got the paint already)
* Investigate gauges (some behave oddly)

. . . . . Basically concentrate on getting the clutch pedal in and the harness points finished. Also work on getting the exhaust sorted and TiG'ed.

That's all pretty simple and I *plan* to do that before easter, leaving the last few jobs to do in - hopefully - better weather.

:chiny:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 12, 2016, 10:43:49 am

Got the clutch pedal all finished and ready to go back in last night . . . Hopefully will re-fit this weekend.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160211_2203521_zpskgyfsdap.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160211_2203521_zpskgyfsdap.jpg.html)

Ironically, the welding is better now than it was on the original . . . . that makes me happy as the new clutch is HEAVY !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160211_2204331_zpsysldcvnh.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160211_2204331_zpsysldcvnh.jpg.html)

Just to put it into perspective, I've had around 2" cut off the length of the pedal and still think it's going to be proud of all the others . . . It baffles me how the yanks thought having a clutch that you could operate with your knee (almost) was O.K ???

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/f2d7abd4-e17b-41b1-8aec-a399efcc36b2_zpsi5ipfhw4.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/f2d7abd4-e17b-41b1-8aec-a399efcc36b2_zpsi5ipfhw4.jpg.html)

Also made up a jig for the collector flange welding . . . Not sure if it's normal but the flanges are both rotated on the back of the headers by about 5* . . . . as such, it was pretty critical that these were welded in the right place.
The holes are drilled for the sensor bosses.
All parts were dropped off this morning for "Stage 1" of the welding process (Stage 1 will convert 5 pieces into 2 on each side, so I can get the final fit spot-on).

Tonight's job is cleaning up the modified harness points and getting some paint on them . . . . again, I'm hoping to re-fit these this weekend.

:up:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on February 18, 2016, 08:34:39 pm

The exhaust bits have been TiG'ed (to "stage 1"), I just need to pick them up. :P

I didn't get the harness brackets back on (opting to work on other things) but here's a little photo, just to prove they're done.

:up:

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160216_101617_zps8rhlv3mx.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160216_101617_zps8rhlv3mx.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Cunning Plan on February 19, 2016, 12:29:18 pm

Nice job dude. :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 16, 2016, 09:57:24 am

O.K, so with the nice weather comes more time to get stuff done - albeit not much - but baby steps are better than no steps.

I got the clutch pedal re-fitted over the weekend (it was shortened and re-angled as it stood massively proud of the other pedals - bravo, GM). The pedal is now flush with the brake pedal so appears a million times better . . . I haven't tested it running but it feels SO MUCH better under foot, switching between pedals is as it should be and the travel shouldn't have been effected.

No pictures but I'm tentatively going to call that one done.

I also got the (previously modified and painted) harness points back in and refitted. These are much more rigid so I'm happy.

Again, no pics but that's another off the list.

I've also, off-and-on, been doing bits to the exhaust stubs . . . they're now cut, and assembled on a jig which I'll be taking to get TiG'ed later today.
Once I have them back they can go on, the sensors be fitted and she can finally go back on all 4 wheels (!!!!!!!!!!)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160516_090753_zpsg0ivdfr0.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160516_090753_zpsg0ivdfr0.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 16, 2016, 08:32:28 pm

Titsy -

Sensor length = 85mm
Cable length = 610mm
Connector length = 60mm

5-Wire

0 258 007 057

418082 12

982 / H

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160516_212200_zpsoliyba9q.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160516_212200_zpsoliyba9q.jpg.html)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160516_212233_zpsakmxo3ye.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160516_212233_zpsakmxo3ye.jpg.html)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160516_212325_zpsfo54t3of.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160516_212325_zpsfo54t3of.jpg.html)

Ideally need the cable length 800mm at least

:up:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 16, 2016, 09:17:26 pm

Datasheet for reference:
http://www.bosch-motorsport.com/media/catalog_resources/Lambda_Sensor_LSU_42_Datasheet_51_en_2779111435pdf.pdf

I'ts an Innovate system right? so does it not have a cable from the sensor to the unit as follows, and can you not feed the cable to the logger through the panel the other way and have the connector outside the car? these connectors are meant to survive that type for environment and are fully sealed.

https://tunertools.com/prodimages/large/IN-3897-1.jpg

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 16, 2016, 10:48:12 pm

Yes, the connector will pass through but it'll leave the chunky connector union in a pretty tight space under the brake booster.

I'd need to check - it's probably do-able but definitely not ideal.

:chiny:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 16, 2016, 11:47:11 pm

The link cable looks pretty long, can it not be routed to a better spot?

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 17, 2016, 11:01:19 am

The issue will be the length of the cable the sensor end. The firewall is pretty packed now so the points where we went through were more necessity then choice.

The problem is, ideally, I need to go through where the pedal box is. If I go either side the cable isn't long enough (assuming I keep that big connector in the car).

The chunky connector can be outside but, at best, it'll be right over the exhaust header and crammed under the steering column, with no real way of securing it.

******

Obviously, from reading the above posts, I managed to bully the workshop into TiG'ing up the exhaust stubs there and then so I could re-fit them last night.

Pic :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160516_174033_zpsyevsqvzn.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160516_174033_zpsyevsqvzn.jpg.html)

I've ordered some heat wrap to go around the stubs . . . I purposely angled them up to maximise ground clearance but the trade-off was obviously that they're now close to the floor pan.

Also a pic of the harness points re-fixed.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160516_170856_zpsc6dfjvem.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160516_170856_zpsc6dfjvem.jpg.html)

The pedals :

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160516_170911_zpshrtkkm4s.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160516_170911_zpshrtkkm4s.jpg.html)

This view goes to show how stupid the original lay-out was . . . bare in mind the clutch pedal in stock form protruded 75mm further than it does now !

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160516_170928_zpsbecwbmgd.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160516_170928_zpsbecwbmgd.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 17, 2016, 12:46:30 pm

This 'might' be what you want, but best to check with Innovate support...

http://www.lambdasensor.com/main/bosch/price.pl?item=0258007359

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 17, 2016, 01:37:19 pm

Looks the same. The limited info reads the same and the cable should be ideal.

Have emailed their technical support dept . . . Fingers crossed.

Ta. :up:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 23, 2016, 03:54:17 pm

Well, clearly their tech support are sh!t as they haven't bothered responding.

:pass:

:chiny:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 25, 2016, 12:22:37 pm

Try Bosch instead...

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: FUBAR on May 25, 2016, 04:33:45 pm

Exhaust is nicely done m8, that is going to be LOUD!!

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 26, 2016, 09:24:07 am

Quote from: Titsy on May 25, 2016, 12:22:37 pm

Try Bosch instead...

That was my thinking but they've got so many different sites . . . I've found an email for their automotive side but it's not specifically a technical dept.

I'll ping them an email today and see what comes back.

One thing I'm pretty sure of though is that the longer sensor you found should work . . . . the ***only*** possible difference I can see is the number of holes in the end of the sensor itself . . . . on doing some research this controls the heat exposure to the sensor . . . more holes, more heat, less holes, more shielding . . . .

On further reading, one of the codes the Innovate kit likes to throw is "Code 8" which relates to the sensor over-heating . . . . . so it's obviously pretty sensitive, meaning it's worth being conscious of it.

:chiny:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on May 26, 2016, 09:29:11 am

Quote from: FUBAR on May 25, 2016, 04:33:45 pm

Exhaust is nicely done m8, that is going to be LOUD!!

Maybe. Maybe not.

The "original" gathered gases (and noise) from both heads (so 350 cubic inches worth of engine) and dumped it out the side.

The stubbies will each handle 1/2 the amount so it'll be more like two 3-litre engines . . . plus they're under the car and pointing to the road so that'll deflect the noise immediately meaning it's already - theoretically - lost some force before it gets to your ears.

I don't expect it to be louder, but I think it'll be prone to higher-pitched noises / "raspy-ness"

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on May 26, 2016, 04:58:25 pm

The contact details on the data sheet for the sensor you have are as follows:
Europe: Bosch Engineering GmbH Motorsport Robert-Bosch-Allee 1 74232 Abstatt Germany Tel.: +49 7062 911 9101 Fax: +49 7062 911 79104 motorsport@bosch.com www.bosch-motorsport.de

Try them and tell them what your after and what you have currently.

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 06, 2016, 08:47:32 am

Hmm, seems the Curse of the Camaro is still present :

"Hi Mr Witham,

Thank you for your email.

Unfortunately we don't have a similar lambda sensor with a longer cable. This particular sensor is quite specific and only fits a Seat Leon and Toledo with AUQ engine codes between 2000-2004.

Apologies.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards"

:chiny:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on June 06, 2016, 11:14:20 pm

Maybe ask about extending the wires yourself and what wire is appropriate for the job. Just double check that it won't have any consequences for the operation and accuracy of the sensor...

At least 'the Bosch' came back to you...

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 07, 2016, 09:07:15 am

I'm pretty sure Bosch would never suggest that cutting and splicing one of their sensors would be O.K so I didn't ask.

I did do a load of reading that suggests that it's perfectly fine and normal.

There seems to be some difference of opinion on whether to solder or crimp the connections but I haven't found anywhere that suggests "special" wire - just standard (non-solid core) wire of a matching gauge.

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 16, 2016, 10:31:46 am

O.K, so - with no other option - I decided to extend the Lambda sensor cables.

I wanted to minimise the extension so opted for 6" (150mm) overall. I also extended both sensor cables as on hindsight, although the one on the R/H/S wasn't too bad, it wasn't ideal.

I'm not au fait when it comes to electrical stuff so did my best. I allowed 1/2" overlap either end, twisted them and melted in solder. It seemed to take nicely and by the second or third connection I was making a pretty neat job of it. (Go me !).

There's probably an easier way of doing this but my crude set up did the job. :)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160613_194848_zpsroglg3ot.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160613_194848_zpsroglg3ot.jpg.html)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160613_201823_zps7jpoukvv.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160613_201823_zps7jpoukvv.jpg.html)

After making the connections, I tightly wrapped each one in insulating tape, pulled the original cable wrap back and added heat-shrink to the end which will mostly be inside the car (this overlapped the original wrap by 30mm or so).

This is a pic to compare the first modified one to the original (the second was done the following evening).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160613_202706_zps8jkof3pu.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160613_202706_zps8jkof3pu.jpg.html)

I did re-fit the exhaust stubs but now have different bolts (socket heads) as the old hex-headed ones interfered with the pipe slightly.

The plan is to remove the stubs, wrap them in exhaust heat wrap, secure wrap, re-fit stubs using new bolts, fit sensors and run cables into car.

Once at this stage internal connections are straight-forward and she can go back down on 4 wheels (finally).

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on June 16, 2016, 11:00:53 am

Quote from: Roadkill on June 16, 2016, 10:31:46 am

Once at this stage internal connections are straight-forward and she can go back down on 4 wheels (finally).

:up: been on stands for a lil while now!

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Incursus on June 16, 2016, 11:03:12 am

Looks good to me..make a sparky out of you yet.. 😉

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Titsy on June 17, 2016, 11:56:25 am

Hmm, I would have put heat shrink over the joints. Water get's into everything under a car, and a bit of corrosion over time could throw the measurements out...

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 17, 2016, 12:04:49 pm

I hear what you're saying but I didn't use heat shrink there for three reasons :

1) I wasn't sure, that with the thickness of the heat shrink, that the main sleeve would fit back over (insulation tape is easier to remove / alter).
2) The main sleeve is sealed at the sensor end (no water in there), my new piece of heat shrink over-laps the original sleeve tightly so shouldn't let water in (the other end is inside the car so that shouldn't be an issue).
3) I didn't have any heat shrink that size. :tongue:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 17, 2016, 02:38:53 pm

My guv'nor said that we could all go home if we wanted to watch the match yesterday afternoon . . . . which was a genuine surprise as I wasn't aware there was a match on (or who was playing for that matter) but turns out England was playing which meant I got to go home earlier and get a couple of hours' work done on the Camaro - Goooooooo, sports team !!! (only funny if you've seen the Lego movie).

Got the exhaust stubs removed and the wrap installed (yes, Ryan, soaking it does make it easier - thanks). It was bloody awkward and I'm glad I opted to remove them from the car. The wrap is retained at each end with stainless jubilee clips (the ones supplied with the wrap are crap - NEVER bother using them).
Eagle-eyed viewers may note that one wrap stops slightly shorter than the other - yes, I ran out but not even my OCD demanded it be put right (we're talking a mere 3" too short . . . oo-er)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160617_125036_zpssh8og1j5.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160617_125036_zpssh8og1j5.jpg.html)

So, still wet, they went back on, complete with new bolts (the socket-headed ones were easier to work with so I'm glad I got these). Sensors were fitted and cables run and secured so not to come in contact with the exhaust.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160617_142743_zpsl1bbsm05.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160617_142743_zpsl1bbsm05.jpg.html)

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I spent a few minutes connecting everything up but nothing's tested yet. The chunky connectors - now the cables have been extended - are perfectly positioned albeit the connecting cable is about 6-foot long and just coiled up under the dash !!!

Everything's pretty-much still hidden out of the way, though and it's still pretty neat so I'm happy.

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160617_142701_zpsmzofrhft.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160617_142701_zpsmzofrhft.jpg.html)

I'm probably jumping the gun a bit but I plan to drop her back on her wheels either tonight or tomorrow and charge the battery.

Hopefully before the end of the weekend I'll have her running and see how things lie. :chiny:

The "list" is now as follows :

* POR15 missed areas under wheel arches
* Front wheel liners (what to do ? - will probably just replace)
* Repair hood (I'll need to have a strengthening plate made, too, probably)
* Respray hood (got the paint already)
* Investigate gauges (some behave oddly) / test "newly" fitted ones

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 20, 2016, 08:42:05 am

Got the wheel liners cleaned up and re-fitted, then dropped the Camaro back on her wheels Friday night (didn't do much else).

Still need to re-fit the cover that protects the fuel filler, though (couldn't get under to do this at the time).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/20160617_2016111_zpsukbrydqi.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Roadkill-Auto/media/20160617_2016111_zpsukbrydqi.jpg.html)

Went out on Saturday and put the battery on charge . . . . . . 8 hours later we went out but the battery still wasn't charged (I was getting worried). Took it off charge, put it back on Sunday.

It finally finished charging around lunchtime but I was busy doing other bits so got back to it around 6pm (just before it starting pi$$ing down !!).

My neighbour kindly offered to help me get the bonnet off so I could quickly check everything over before trying to start her . . .

All looked O.K, so gave the key a turn . . . :sofa:

She started good considering, settled down pretty quick and idled off choke without issues.

Initial thoughts are there may be something iffy going on with the right bank . . . the LH A/F gauge is sitting steady (on idle) around 14.3 . . . but the RH A/F gauge is fluctuating wildly from 14-18. May have a cylinder down or rocker adjustment off (??)

Not really thought anymore about it. :chiny:

The next job is to have a big re-shuffle to get the Caddy out of the garage and the Camaro in (so I can remove the hood to repair it) . . . .

<<EDIT>>

I'm also fitting lanyard to the front 2 bonnet pins so I don't get a repeat performance of "The flying bonnet in F-major" :smirk:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 28, 2016, 08:26:06 am

Not much of an update but I gave the Camaro a pretty good clean before putting her in the garage . . . also checked over everything (lights, wipers, horn etc . . . ) all working fine but I do have an issue with the door poppers which'll need investigation.

:chiny:

The irregular reading from the RH cylinder bank I think may be from the stubby exhausts being a tad short (which I couldn't avoid) . . . the reading is more settled at slightly higher RPM but erratic at idle (around 540 RPM) . . . my guess is that at low idle, clean air is being drawn up into the pipe enough to alter the readings. I'll run the engine at a steady higher RPM (around 1000 RPM) and see what I'm getting.

Going to hop off the Camaro for a week or so as I have other jobs that are currently more pressing.

Was nice to drive her though . . . . even if only for a few yards !

:up:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on June 28, 2016, 12:08:00 pm

Quote from: Roadkill on June 28, 2016, 08:26:06 am

I do have an issue with the door poppers which'll need investigation.

What's up with them??

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 28, 2016, 01:45:30 pm

On pressing the button on the remote you can hear the D/S relay clicking but it's not firing the solenoid . . . . on the P/S I can't even hear the relay clicking - nothing.

Pushing the buttons "hidden" on the rear does nothing, either (I can't hear the relays but am obviously further away).

:pass:

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on June 28, 2016, 02:25:15 pm

Quote from: Roadkill on June 28, 2016, 01:45:30 pm

On pressing the button on the remote you can hear the D/S relay clicking but it's not firing the solenoid . . . . on the P/S I can't even hear the relay clicking - nothing.

Pushing the buttons "hidden" on the rear does nothing, either (I can't hear the relays but am obviously further away).

:pass:

Hmm, guess the battery is all OK as it started....only thing might be worth checking is the fuses as there is a fuse between the relay and the solenoid (i think!)

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: Roadkill on June 28, 2016, 03:13:19 pm

Checked all the fuses I could find, including inline ones - all good.

Battery was freshly charged.

Title: Re: Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)
Post by: ianjpage on June 28, 2016, 09:14:47 pm

Quote from: Roadkill on June 28, 2016, 03:13:19 pm

Checked all the fuses I could find, including inline ones - all good.

Battery was freshly charged.

I think the ones for the poppers come from one of the 2 small fuse blocks on the firewall in teh passenger footwell...so if they good then very odd, don't think there any more, the system is obviously working to an extent if you can hear the relay firing, it sounds like the solenoid isn't getting power...which is controlled by the relay and the fuses...so if fuse OK and relay clicking then very odd one....might mean pulling a door card off and seeing if you get 12v at the solenoid +ve connector

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