Near-perfect condition inside and out - fairly high miles but full service history.
Just took her out for a spin - and am very happy. Or as happy as I can be with a Mondeo. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Pics to follow this weekend . . . .
This now brings my current car-total to Four - it's been a while since I've had that many motors sitting around the place !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
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Post by: Fieldy on February 22, 2011, 07:20:34 pm
You won't regret it, one of the most under-rated 2nd hand cars on the market IMO
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Post by: Andy on February 22, 2011, 08:16:51 pm
Quoting: Fieldy
You won't regret it, one of the most under-rated 2nd hand cars on the market IMO
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I like them so much, I have two! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
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Post by: ianjpage on February 22, 2011, 09:47:20 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) sounds good run about then!
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Post by: Incursus on February 23, 2011, 07:36:19 am
They are rather good. Hope I don't have to grow up any time soon and get one though (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 23, 2011, 08:04:23 am
Welcome to the team!
Diesel - yes Estate - yes 6 box - yes Full service history - yes
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Sounds like a great specificaion!! Lets see some pictures!
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Post by: Andy on February 23, 2011, 09:41:35 am
Missed the six speed bit, sweet as! The 130bhp motor with that box = happy days!
This is rather turning into a Mondeo owners club though, me, CP, Fieldy, Ian and now RK. Anyone else want to admit they have one?
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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 23, 2011, 10:26:03 am
haha! Yeah, we will have to initiate RK into the group. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Who is bringing the Cue Cumber this time? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: F Body on February 24, 2011, 07:18:39 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
Welcome to the team!
Jeeze you Guy's are getting far too much like....................
Mondeo Men (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 25, 2011, 08:05:31 am
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Where's the pictures? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Andy on February 25, 2011, 08:30:33 am
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Post by: Andy on February 25, 2011, 03:16:16 pm
Looks like a fat focus estate though (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
The MK3 had it's own look and style. No doubt the MK4 good, but are they running an ST edition? Hmm...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 25, 2011, 03:37:01 pm
I don't really care about speed (hence not bothered about ST version).
Now, space economy, reliability and pulling power really get me off :jackoff:
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I know what you mean though, especially at the front - although I like the back of the estates - they look really wide!
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Post by: F Body on February 25, 2011, 04:33:48 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
I don't really care about speed
You may be on the wrong forum (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/kkk.gif)
Quoting: Cunning Plan
space economy, reliability and pulling power really get me off
Well the main ingredient of a Mondy Estate has to be space, they are fooking huge (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Can't imagine many of your partners being able to park one (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Fieldy on February 25, 2011, 04:43:24 pm
Quoting: F Body
Sorry I just can't get excited about a Mondeo
Take one out for a drive....
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Post by: philoldsmobile on February 25, 2011, 05:51:38 pm
Mondeos are a very competent, but a very dull car (i've driven all bar the MK4).. doesn't mean its a bad car, far from it, they drive very well, they are just very bland. In the market sector they are in, that's to be expected though - a car a keen driver would find exciting would probably be considered twitchy and nervy to the average person.
the best variant I've driven is the TDCi - good compromise between performance and economy, and very smooth for a diesel. the most disappointing was a MK2 ST 24 - just not really as quick as it should be..
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Post by: Roadkill on February 26, 2011, 10:09:41 am
Alright - I'll go out and take some pictures.
I've been busy this morning fixing the fridge (difficult when you can't kneel down) ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/diy.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on February 26, 2011, 10:33:10 am
In fairness to the Mondeo I've only recently driven two other "modern" cars (Parent's '08 Astra and PhilO's Alfa) and I'm happy to say that the Mondy is just as inspiring to drive as either of them.
The Astra is easy and light to drive but offers no excitement. The Alfa is quite "barge-like" in corners considering it's not actually that large, although it goes well. The mondy is a fairly large car (actually quite large) but handles reasonably (even better with air in the front tyres !!) and can out-pull most things on the road once rolling in second, I've found. Add to that that it coasts along at 1700 rpm @ 70mph in Sixth gear and it'll p!ss all over both previously mentioned cars when it comes to economy, capacity and practicality.
I'm impressed, I must say, and I was sceptical at first.
Anyway - here she is :
£1900 with 4 months MoT, 10+ months tax and about £40 of fuel in her !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Absolute bargain for a "base-model" car in such good condition with A/C and Cruise Control.
Edit :
Everything works as well. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: F Body on February 26, 2011, 01:57:52 pm
Surprised it's red, felt sure it would be :
A/ Silver.
B/ Blue.
C/ Black.
Looks tidy enough for a Family man (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on February 26, 2011, 04:13:58 pm
Quoting: F Body
Surprised it's red
Indeed. Lovely colour - slightly better in the flesh I reckon.
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Post by: Andy on February 26, 2011, 06:11:56 pm
Nice man! Is that just A/C or is it Climate control too?
For an LX that's pretty well spec'd. You've got the two things that most people would want on the higher cars but on the base. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Suspicious stain on the drivers seat... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
Been 'looking' at a maroon Ford today....
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Post by: Roadkill on February 26, 2011, 06:28:29 pm
Quoting: Andy
Is that just A/C or is it Climate control too?
Basic A/C - I hate Climate Control anyway. Always thinks it's cleverer than it is !!
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Post by: Fieldy on February 26, 2011, 08:29:21 pm
Quoting: philoldsmobile
but a very dull car
2.0 Zetec-S.... Not dull, at all
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Post by: Andy on February 26, 2011, 08:35:54 pm
Quoting: Fieldy
2.0 Zetec-S.... Not dull, at all
The 1.8 is pretty lively too! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Just out of curiosity, what tyres have you got fitted on yours Fieldy? Mines got Avons all round and the front end is a little lively in the wet. Starting to suspect the tyres are shite.
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Post by: Fieldy on February 26, 2011, 10:26:23 pm
Ha Ha, seriously no idea. I fitted a set of cheap 15" wheels from Gumtree with tyres for £50. I fitted one budget tyre from the scrap yard.
Lets put it this way, I was driving on the M4 today, 75MPH (Roughly, my speedo is about 15mph out at that speed), floor was damp and my traction control started working..... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
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Post by: Andy on February 26, 2011, 10:39:44 pm
Haha, wish I had traction control...
Theres a back road round here, where there's a slight hump back bridge on a bend, nothing tragic. Went over that a bit enthusiastically and the near side lost grip and the right side dragged the steering round. This is making me want to put the Bridgestones I have on the diesel on and do away with the Avons.
I have a damp floor... inside (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
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Post by: HardRockCamaro on February 26, 2011, 10:53:17 pm
The Mondeo, Focus and Fiesta have always sold well as they're damn good cars.
Dependable, and while sometimes uninspiring to look at, a very good drive indeed, always winning group tests against the competition for the driving experience. Suspension and steering are spot on, nice gearbox and driving position etc. And the latest models are generating reviews tat say the build quality is no longer just behind the Germans, it's actually equal or even better...
Ford have sold millions of these things for good reason.
The R&D budget for the suspension tuning division is probably greater than an entire vehicle development budget for some of their competitors...
I remember when the first Mondeo came out, Ford spent over 4 *billion* developing it. And that's back in the v early 90s when 4 billion was a f*** ton of money...
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Post by: philoldsmobile on February 27, 2011, 09:53:14 am
that market sector is so critical, ford had to get the mondeo right. the vectra is just not on the same game, but how many 05 modeos do you see against 05 vectras! ford were outselling the vectra significantly.
the focus I felt (and i have heard others say the same) was always over rated, the 2009 LX I drove last year was falling apart, and in non wearing places too, such as trims on the dash board (itself a very nasty hard cheap plastic) and the trims around the door handles being loose, because they were about 3mm smaller than the opening they 'fitted' into. the 1.8 TDCi was horrible and laggy and the gear ratios poorly chosen. not at all nice.
The tables have turned in the slightly smaller focus sector, and THE car to buy is the Kia C'eed, as good or superior in every way to the focus, with a far better warranty, and cheaper.
the Germans have always managed to sell on badge, but the 3 series is again a relatively decent car, until you see the price. the Merc C class looks superb, but apparently the build quality isn't great. cirtainly the older once i've been in were not as good as you'd like.
Really the only alternative you can really pick against the mondeo is the Volvo V40 / S40 or the Saab 9-3
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Post by: philoldsmobile on February 27, 2011, 10:01:46 am
Quoting: HardRockCamaro
the latest models are generating reviews tat say the build quality is no longer just behind the Germans, it's actually equal or even better...
to be fair, they are saying that about the Citroen C5 too....
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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 27, 2011, 10:12:29 am
Good to see it has roof rails and a towey (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 27, 2011, 01:19:45 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Add to that that it coasts along at 1700 rpm @ 70mph in Sixth gear
The economy is going to blow your mind if you have been used to 20mpg and under!
You should get into the 50mpgs with that. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
I want one (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: HardRockCamaro on February 27, 2011, 03:24:50 pm
The Kia Cee'd is a good car by all accounts, looks like a Toyota to me. It drives pretty well too, but it's not on par with a Focus.
But considering it's a Kia it's amazing how far they've come, and in such a short time...
As an everyday runaround, given the cost of a new focus these days (near 20k for a 1.8TDCI Zetec, sod off) I'd give the Kia serious consideration.
Then again Vauxhall offer a good warranty now, although the Astra I rented was nicer to look at than the current Focus (on it's way out and an all new one due any minute, which is truly excellent from what I've read) both inside as well as out, and it was quiet and smooth, however it was not as nice to drive. The gearbox was awful and the steering lifeless.
With improved looks, quality and a great driving experience, the new Focus should be good. It better be for what they want for one...
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Post by: philoldsmobile on February 27, 2011, 11:53:13 pm
the 09 focus I drove tail end of last year was absolutely awful (dad hated it too), buy comparison his Pug 307 was light years nicer when we got home, smoother, quieter better built and a FAR bigger boot). A guy at work also had a 1.8 TDCI focus from new as a company car (now changed for a BMW118d) and he hated it too, for all the same reasons - nasty engine cheap plastics and very poor build.
its substantially worse than the MK1 focus, the cost cutters had obviously been at work.
the mondeo is much nicer.
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Post by: Andy on February 28, 2011, 11:27:31 am
Bet the Focus electricals will be working in 10 years time though...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Wouldn't say the same for the Pug.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on February 28, 2011, 11:58:13 am
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Post by: Roadkill on March 02, 2011, 01:56:02 pm
Plus the Pug is ugly as hell whereas the Mondeo is simply a little dull - but not offensive. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
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Post by: art b on March 02, 2011, 06:33:48 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
# Posted: 2 Mar 2011 13:56:02 Quote
Plus the Pug is ugly as hell whereas philo is simply a little dull - but not offensive
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Post by: Incursus on March 03, 2011, 07:30:19 am
Quoting: philoldsmobile
the 09 focus I drove tail end of last year was absolutely awful
The steering wheel module is awesome though!
The 11MY will be even cheaper better! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2011, 12:40:11 pm
Some stats for you Merry Mondeo Men . . . .
First full tank (mainly short runs but some longer trips)
Tank = 513.3 miles / 55.19 litre (12.14 gal) = 42.3MPG
Second full tank (pretty much half and half)
Tank = 590.7 miles / 56.56 litre (12.44 gal) = 47.5MPG
Just at the end of my third tank and I'm hoping to get to 50MPG. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Andy on March 23, 2011, 02:00:51 pm
Where you'll see the real advantage is motorway cruising with the 6th gear, 70 with probably a little over 2.5k rpm, happy days!
I am missing my old diesel mondeo and the mpg I got out of it. It was never amazing but at least I wasnt getting to know the petrol attendants name.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on March 23, 2011, 02:34:10 pm
Change at 1500, keep off the boost, you should get well over 50mpg (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Sure, you can hit 60 or 70 when the road allows, but just don't be the first on the road to do it, gradually increase speed - makes a huuuggeee difference. It may feel like you are driving too slowly, but you soon catch all the people up who tank past you away from round-a-bouts at full-throttle, the next slow bit of traffic you can just glide past them.
My 1.8 petrol is doing 40-42mpg (A roads, 40-60mph - so admittedly the best situation to get high MPG with the engine), but still, '97 petrol estate (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Also, tyres at 33psi (massive difference as you know).
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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2011, 05:24:01 pm
Quoting: Andy
Where you'll see the real advantage is motorway cruising with the 6th gear, 70 with probably a little over 2.5k
Try about 1900 RPM @ 70MPH (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Andy on March 23, 2011, 06:19:04 pm
Damn that's good! And as CP says you'll be off the boost.
In which case, I expect better!! Lol
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Post by: HardRockCamaro on March 23, 2011, 06:40:02 pm
My dad drives everywhere at 60 and accelerates gently and plans ahead. He gets 64mpg at the *lowest* out of his Focus TDCi and gets up to 72mpg with a tailwind and on a longer run... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
He just went for a test drive in the new shape Focus 1.6TDCi which has a 6 speed box compared to his 5 speed 06 model. Problem is they want £17k for an entry level poverty spec model, and £19.7k for the Titanium... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
It's supposed to be as well made as the German executive cars (I'm not sure that is a compliment) and as refined. But if you buy the top model and add the toys (self parking etc) it comes in at a german executive saloon price of 29k... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on March 23, 2011, 09:11:46 pm
Quoting: HardRockCamaro
He gets 64mpg at the *lowest* out of his Focus TDCi and gets up to 72mpg with a tailwind and on a longer run...
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Post by: art b on March 23, 2011, 09:14:37 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Try about 1900 RPM @ 70MPH
the one we had did 2.500 rpm at 100... ...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: ianjpage on March 23, 2011, 09:49:47 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
My 1.8 petrol is doing 40-42mpg (A roads, 40-60mph - so admittedly the best situation to get high MPG with the engine), but still, '97 petrol estate
REALLY (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) i get average of 29 out of mine....must be summat up with it! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: HardRockCamaro on March 23, 2011, 10:00:45 pm
My 1.8 Petrol Focus used to get 42mpg on long motorway runs if I really tried. But in London rush hour commutes and if I was in a hurry <cough> it got 24mpg...
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Post by: ianjpage on March 23, 2011, 10:08:07 pm
Hmm might not be anything up then, as my drive is a mix of dual carriageway @ 70, then "A" roads with 30/40/50 limits on, lots of roundabouts, junctions etc so longest 'constant' driving section is 15 mins without slowing / stopping etc....
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Post by: HardRockCamaro on March 23, 2011, 10:19:50 pm
Around 30 sounds about right.
The 1.6 Astra I had as a hire car did 27mpg average which was in v heavy London traffic as in stop start, and mostly 40-50mph dual carriageways with some 70mph.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on March 24, 2011, 08:06:14 am
Quoting: ianjpage
REALLY i get average of 29 out of mine....must be summat up with it!
Quoting: ianjpage
30/40/50 limits on, lots of roundabouts, junctions etc so longest 'constant' driving section is 15 mins without
Yah that won't be helping.
How much pressure do you put on the accelrator peddle? I hardly ever push mine down more than a quarter, if I do it is to over-take a tractor (lots out this way) or a lorry doing 40mph. As I say, I use the gears to accelarate, hardly taking the car above 2k rpm, then 3k to cruise at 65mph.
Lots of talk on the VW forums at the moment about running old 90s diesels with straight vegetable oil - VW Passats, Golfs, Mercedes, some Fords etc. I used to put a 50/50 mix in my old VW T3 Wedge and I would sure do it again if I had a diesel with a Bosch pump (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Fieldy on March 24, 2011, 12:02:02 pm
I have no idea what mine gets, but the rev counter see around 4k revs regularly.... Just sounds nice at that point (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Andy on March 24, 2011, 12:42:46 pm
Quoting: Fieldy
I have no idea what mine gets, but the rev counter see around 4k revs regularly.... Just sounds nice at that point
I hear ya!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on March 24, 2011, 01:21:32 pm
Quoting: Fieldy
rev counter see around 4k revs regularly
You madman, you must be some kind of car freak. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
This forum is for conservative Mondeo owners only (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
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Post by: philoldsmobile on March 24, 2011, 09:00:04 pm
Quoting: ianjpage
REALLY i get average of 29 out of mine....must be summat up with it!
the auto box will make a difference too.....
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Post by: Fieldy on March 25, 2011, 12:38:36 pm
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Post by: Cunning Plan on March 25, 2011, 01:35:19 pm
MKB = Mondeo Kool Boiz (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on March 28, 2011, 10:31:07 am
Update for the 'Boiz.
Got a lowly 45.5mpg out of the last tank but that, unfortunately, included about 3 hours in various rolling traffic jams last thursday.
The next tank went in on Friday morning and after clocking over 300 miles that day the computer was predicting a range of 780 miles out of the tank !!!
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Needless to say that dropped back down to 650 after picking up the trailer, towing the Camaro, hauling half a ton of slate then returning the trailer again.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
I'm staying away for 3 days in Southampton this week which is over 200 miles round-trip so I'm hoping to finally see my 50mpg from this tank . . . It'd be even cooler knowing that it came in the same tank as using it for towing.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on March 28, 2011, 10:50:36 am
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Post by: Roadkill on March 28, 2011, 11:10:24 am
I was gonna get some pics of the towing in action but time was limited and the whole sha-bang caused a major clot in our small cul-de-sac. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on April 04, 2011, 11:49:49 am
Last tank saw 646.1 miles - and that included towing the 'Maro, haulin a trailer and 500kgs of slate !!
I don't see me getting much better than that but I'll keep trying.
Current tank isn't looking great - should be 600miles-ish.
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Post by: Andy on April 04, 2011, 11:59:10 am
Start duct taping door seams once people get in the car, get your neighbour or friend to seal yours once you're in it. Don't forget the obvious like the bonnet, the gaps around the lights etc. Make sure your tyres are pumped up the bursting, in fact go for that ballon effect, less contact with the road, less rolling resistance. Remove the rear seats, or fold them down. That upright action from them isn't very aerodynamic. Don't brake, turn the engine off when going down hill. Disconnect all the fuses in the box to non essential things, ABS, Airbag etc, all of this eats power off the engine. If you can, just get someone to trailer your car about, this is a dead cert to cover miles without burning fuel.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
On a serious note though, have you checked all the filters and that since you got it?
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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 04, 2011, 01:15:59 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
51.2 MPG !!!
That is terrible. That car is broke. However, I will be a good guy and take it off your hands for you, say £300. It's okay, I don't mind being out of pocket on the deal (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on April 04, 2011, 01:55:36 pm
Quoting: Andy
On a serious note though, have you checked all the filters and that since you got it?
No. It is due a service very soon, too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Quoting: Cunning Plan
That is terrible
I was hoping to average 55MPG so it is a little low.
That said it is high mileage so it's not gonna be at it's prime. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
EDIT.
I've had it 6 weeks today and it covered it's 3,000th mile under my ownership today, too, so 500 miles a week should be in the region of 25,000 a year - which is the minimum I'd expect.
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Post by: HardRockCamaro on April 04, 2011, 07:06:00 pm
If it's all serviced etc then it all comes down to how you drive. I managed to coax 34mpg out of the IROC *once* but that involved clever forward planning in terms of overtaking slower traffic on the motorway etc and careful use of the throttle downhill to gain speed to go uphill plus letting it naturally slow down a little uphill if necessary. It's amazing what difference your driving can make though. I got 33 out of the Cadillac when I did the same and slipstreamed a NAtional Express coach to Birmingham! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on April 05, 2011, 09:30:11 am
Oh, I drive like a saint, believe me. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
I know what you're saying about forward planning - I used to get a steady 18.5mpg out of the '86 CDV around town. But that could drop to 11mpg if you were careless.
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Post by: Incursus on April 05, 2011, 09:51:38 am
Drove like a saint with my last tank a good mix of MK and A road (trips to Northampton(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/work.gif) and Linslade (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shag.gif) driving at 60mph max and gentle acceleration.
24MPG (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif) 23.91 Pence per Mile (fuel at 1.29 per litre)
Normally get 21-22MPG (mostly MK driving) 27ish p/pm (fuel at 1.29 per litre)
using top gear (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dunce.gif) maths, saves me almost a tenner over 300 Miles I think...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Andy on April 05, 2011, 10:06:19 am
That post deserves a thumbs up for use of smilies... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Fieldy on April 05, 2011, 05:30:49 pm
Quoting: Incursus
using top gear maths, saves me almost a tenner over 300 Miles I think...
Meh, spend the tenner and have fun! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 06, 2011, 07:01:50 am
Quoting: Fieldy
Meh, spend the tenner and have fun!
In your toy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)
In your daily (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono.gif)
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Post by: philoldsmobile on April 06, 2011, 06:48:09 pm
Quoting: HardRockCamaro
If it's all serviced etc then it all comes down to how you drive. I managed to coax 34mpg out of the IROC *once* but that involved clever forward planning in terms of overtaking slower traffic on the motorway etc and careful use of the throttle downhill to gain speed to go uphill plus letting it naturally slow down a little uphill if necessary. It's amazing what difference your driving can make though.
absolutely, I got 32 out of the camaro a couple of times, and 28 was easy to achieve on motorway runs.
The mustang never really got quite as good, about 27 was the best, and with the bent crank, 6mpg, while not managing to get the car over 60 mph on an A road run.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
fuel consumption is as much driving style, aerodynamics and weight as it is engine size.
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Post by: Incursus on April 07, 2011, 06:51:32 am
Quoting: Cunning Plan
Quoting: Fieldy Meh, spend the tenner and have fun!
In your toy
In your daily
Indeed tis my daily and £20 a month is £20 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif).
To be honest she's still more fun to drive than your average car even when changing at around 2k.
Though poking the loud pedal occasionally on a sunny afternoon wont break the bank (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on April 07, 2011, 11:38:48 am
Info dump for Key Programming :
From Piston Heads :
Remote Transmitter Programming (410040)
1. Note: A maximum of four keyless entry remote transmitters can be programmed to the generic electronic module (GEM). Programming must be done at the same time for all the transmitters.
Note: To enter programming mode, first make sure that the vehicle battery is fully charged and the anti-theft system is not armed or triggered (if equipped).
Close all doors and fasten the safety belts to make sure conflicting chimes do not sound during programming.
2. Turn the ignition switch from position I to position II at least four times in six seconds.
3. Turn the ignition switch to position I.
4. The GEM is now in the learning mode.
5. Press and hold one of the buttons on the remote transmitter until a chime sounds. This indicates a new transmitter code has been successfully received.
6. After each successful programming, another 10 second learning mode is automatically entered, up to a maximum of four times.
7. To program additional transmitters, repeat step 5.
8. The system will leave the learning mode after the ignition switch is turned to position III, or if no new transmitter is programmed during the 10 seconds, or if four remote transmitters have been programmed.
9. Note: An incorrect programming procedure does not affect the stored codes.
After successful programming, only the new programmed transmitters will be accepted.
10. Test all the programmed transmitters, by activating and deactivating the locking/unlocking functions.
From an eBay seller :
Remote Central Locking Programming Instructions:
Insert the ignition key and turn from position II (Ignition) to position 0 (off) and back four times within three seconds. Remove the ignition key. The locking control system is now in "learn mode" for the next 20 seconds the red warning system LED stays on continuously to indicate this. During the 20 seconds press one of the transmitter buttons. The remotes signal and code number is learned by the locking module and is indicated by flashing the warning system LED. Wait until learn mode times out (20 seconds) or switch the ignition back to ON.
Program a new key (Note you require at least 2 keys to program another)
Insert the first programmed key into the ignition and turn to position II Turn back to 0 and remove the key Insert the second programmed key into the ignition and turn to position II Turn back to 0 and remove the key Key programming mode is now activated and you have ten seconds to: Insert the unprogrammed new key into the ignition and turn to position II Turn back to 0 and remove the key Allow 10 seconds to pass for the system to exit programming
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Post by: F Body on April 07, 2011, 07:05:46 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
51.2 MPG !!!
Jeeze you Ford Boyz must be rich, don't think I could live with a daily driver drinking that much fuel (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
Had a couple of 78mpg's over the last few weeks, but I went 52 miles over to Kettering this morning and managed this :
Title: I'm a MONDEO MAN, now !!!
Post by: HardRockCamaro on April 07, 2011, 07:27:48 pm
Yes but you could put the Panda in the boot of a Mondeo Estate... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: I'm a MONDEO MAN, now !!!
Post by: F Body on April 07, 2011, 07:35:19 pm
Quoting: HardRockCamaro
Yes but you could put the Panda in the boot of a Mondeo Estate...
Quite probably, but how much of the time is it driven one up and empty (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Andy on April 07, 2011, 10:56:17 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Info dump for Key Programming :
RK, Ford Wiki is your friend! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif) MK3 Ford Wiki - Made by Mondeo enthusiasts for Mondeo enthusiasts! Sad, innit! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on April 08, 2011, 08:20:10 am
Quoting: F Body
Quite probably, but how much of the time is it driven one up and empty
Mine's normally one up but always has stuff in the back.
I think I'd get frowned apon turning up to site to see a customer in a Panda, TBH. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: Andy
RK, Ford Wiki is your friend! MK3 Ford Wiki - Made by Mondeo enthusiasts for Mondeo enthusiasts! Sad, innit!
Noted. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: I'm a MONDEO MAN, now !!!
Post by: Roadkill on July 11, 2011, 01:25:30 pm
UPDATE. Not done anything to the Mondy at all.
She's still going strong, clocking up nearly a thousand miles in the last week and a bit.
I have put some RedX injector cleaner through with the last couple of tanks and at the last refil got a whopping 52.3MPG - my best yet.
As I start to do longer and longer journies I hope to increase that further.
Nothing to note, got a couple of light scratches recently and the inside looks like $hit at the moment as been used to haul some SERIOUS weight recently (350kg of paving slabs x 2 and 250+kg of cement as well as multiple tip runs during the CRK building works).
Has an occasional starting issue but since running the injector cleaner that's almost ceased.
Mileage is currently 179,422 miles. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Andy on July 11, 2011, 01:31:21 pm
She's good for another 100k more I'm sure! The only thing that'll start showing it's age are the bushes.
Btw, Mike (who came to the Foos with me) has a 55reg 130 hatchback mondy. He just had his handbrake cable snap but while it was in asked how much he was looking at for a new cambelt. He didn't realise those things run chains for the timing. He was most pleased!
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Post by: Roadkill on July 11, 2011, 01:40:12 pm
Quoting: Andy
He didn't realise those things run chains for the timing
I don't see how it is that different from a N/A diesel - apart from the obvious turbo, extra cooling and different strategy? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif)
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Post by: F Body on August 11, 2011, 05:36:55 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
Keep off that boost!!
You could disconnect the (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/turbo.gif)
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Post by: philoldsmobile on August 11, 2011, 07:06:16 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
Really? Naaah?
I don't see how it is that different from a N/A diesel - apart from the obvious turbo, extra cooling and different strategy?
turbowiesels are designed for higher air flow rates than N/A and higher combustion chamber pressures. If you've pootled a diesel, try this. sit in neutral with a warm idling engine. floor the throttle, and hold the engine on the governor for five seconds. observe the quite remarkable smoke screen. drive it normally, and you wont get so much smoke.
piston crowns etc don't get so hot under extremely gentle use, and the sludge and soot soon gums things up.
even an NA diesel should never live at the bottom of the rev range - in fact, no engine should.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 11, 2011, 07:15:49 pm
Okay makes sense.
But why does driving a car economically usually mean keeping the revs down?
My Mondeo must be really gunked! I never really go above 2k rpm (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/banned.gif)
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Post by: Andy on August 11, 2011, 10:53:37 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
My Mondeo must be really gunked! I never really go above 2k rpm
As much as I try that myself, I weekly give it a good kicking for a couple of reasons, a) Puts a smile on my face, b) reminds me why I like the car enough not to get rid of it.
I think it's a good idea to give it an Italian Tune up ever once in a while.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 12, 2011, 06:49:28 am
After reading more PhilO is right, carbon build-up seems to be the biggest issue from the cylinder not reaching a hot enough temperature to burn it off.
However, it seems this only really happens if you are doing a lot of idling such as sitting in traffic or a delivery driver. Short journeys will also have the same impact. If you drive keeping the revs low, but for long distances you are okay as the cylinders have time to heat up - which is what I do for my commute. Then every now and then, maybe once a week, I give it a blow out by over-taking quicker than I usually would.
Interesting though, always learning :)
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Post by: Incursus on August 12, 2011, 07:07:20 am
Maybe joining the Mondao club soon (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: ianjpage on August 12, 2011, 07:22:38 am
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Post by: Incursus on August 12, 2011, 07:47:19 am
Potential new job (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)
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Post by: Andy on August 12, 2011, 07:51:14 am
Quoting: Incursus
Maybe joining the Mondao club soon
Wooh! Mk1, 2, 3 or 4?
Mk2 are obviously better!
Went skating last night and one of the guys there said mine was very 'retro'. Now it's only a 2000 model so 11 years old, but can you really call that retro?! Probably end up being a future classic and just like my dad saying 'oh when I was a lad them Mondeos were just yer average car!' - he came out with a similar comment when I started talking about MK1 escorts. He can't understand how or why people pay so much for them now!
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Post by: Incursus on August 12, 2011, 07:54:02 am
Quoting: Andy
Wooh! Mk1, 2, 3 or 4?
MK 3 or if I get enough for the Mustang, X-Type.
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Post by: ianjpage on August 12, 2011, 08:08:43 am
Quoting: Incursus
Potential new job
Ooo cool - same company or differnet?
Quoting: Incursus
MK 3 or if I get enough for the Mustang, X-Type.
You be selling the stang.....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on August 12, 2011, 08:26:42 am
Quoting: ianjpage
Quoting: Incursus
Potential new job
Ooo cool - same company or differnet?
Different company. JLR
Quoting: ianjpage
You be selling the stang....
Yeah would be a daily 100 Mile round trip so not suitable for the Stang. and as a second car she's not quite special enough so I'll start looking for a cheap V8 of some kind (3rd gen perhaps), and a place to keep it. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif) Wouldn't want to be yank free for long I'd start to get withdrawal symptoms (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)
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Post by: ianjpage on August 12, 2011, 09:23:25 am
Quoting: Incursus
Different company. JLR
Ah cool - any jobs going there then lol (yeah still looking (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif) )
Quoting: Incursus
Yeah would be a daily 100 Mile round trip so not suitable for the Stang.
Oh yeah defo not ideal car for that !!
Quoting: Incursus
and as a second car she's not quite special enough so I'll start looking for a cheap V8 of some kind (3rd gen perhaps), and a place to keep it.
Not another 3rd gen lol!!!
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Post by: Incursus on August 12, 2011, 09:40:09 am
Quoting: ianjpage
Quoting: Incursus
Different company. JLR
Ah cool - any jobs going there then lol (yeah still looking )
Yeah loads apparently. Mostly PMST roles but I can pass your CV on to Abu, you never know. He works for a company called Altran Technologies and one of their contracts is with JLR.
Quoting: ianjpage
Quoting: Incursus
Yeah would be a daily 100 Mile round trip so not suitable for the Stang.
Oh yeah defo not ideal car for that !!
No I thought about LPG but I wouldn't want to put those kinds of miles on her.
Quoting: ianjpage
Quoting: Incursus
and as a second car she's not quite special enough so I'll start looking for a cheap V8 of some kind (3rd gen perhaps), and a place to keep it.
Not another 3rd gen lol!!!
Yeah not my dream car but cheap and cheerful....well they used to be, not looked for a long time. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: ianjpage on August 13, 2011, 08:41:54 pm
Hmm as much as i am desperate for a new job, the 100 mile commute is off putting i'm afraid (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on August 14, 2011, 10:29:24 am
Yeah It's 40 min - 1 hour trip (one way). I'm fairly used it now though and they pay your travel expenses. There might be some places in Nissan, Cranfield soon.
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Post by: F Body on August 14, 2011, 08:12:22 pm
Quoting: Incursus
Maybe joining the Mondao club soon
It must be some sort of Virus, they are all coming down with it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
MKB = Mondeo Kinky Boys (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 14, 2011, 08:57:43 pm
Quoting: F Body
MKB = Mondeo Kinky Boys
Is that not what this forums is? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
I must change my bookmarks! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wrongforum.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on August 15, 2011, 11:33:59 am
Quoting: Incursus
if I get enough for the Mustang, X-Type
I considered the X-Type.
Couldn't get over paying 75% more for and older, less specced car.
The badge ain't worth that much . . . but you know that already.
Servicing costs more too and it's got a smaller luggage capacity.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono.gif)
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Post by: F Body on August 15, 2011, 11:45:38 am
Quoting: Roadkill
The badge ain't worth that much .
Just wondered what the price difference is between a Mondeo, Vectra and Passat of similar age/mileage are (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on August 15, 2011, 11:52:49 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: Incursus if I get enough for the Mustang, X-Type
I considered the X-Type.
Couldn't get over paying 75% more for and older, less specced car.
The badge ain't worth that much . . . but you know that already.
Servicing costs more too and it's got a smaller luggage capacity.
Yeah I know what your saying and totally agree with you. I've driven both many times and logically the Mondao makes far more sense...but since when have I chosen a car using my brain. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) I did have a look at general service items and they weren't that bad, but then it's mostly Mondao stuff.
Honda Accord, Saab 93 and Volvo S60 are others on the list. Though I'd probably end up with a Mondao, at least for the short term.
Anyway a lot of if's, but's and maybe's before I may have to sell the Mustang.
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Post by: philoldsmobile on August 15, 2011, 12:08:32 pm
why limit yourself, there are some excellent alternatives out there.
How about a volvo S40 (or C70 if you are ok with a petrol) or a Pug 406 HDi (excellent car for the money - ask don shiftini) you could also look into a Saab 9-3 or a honda accord (if you can find the extra £££ - they do fetch good money). the Alfa 159 is excellent but will still fall well outside your budget, as they hold their money like crazy, and still haven't really dipped below £7k for a high miler. the 156 is getting a little old now, but a late model could be had with the 1.9 JTD for about £4k - buy carefully and they are very good cars.
Passats and A4's are ok, not exceptional, and fetch a lot more money than they are really worth.
I'd avoid the Vectra like the plague, aside from being unbearably dull, they have a lot of problems. I'd not jump for joy at an X type either, unles its the 2.5 or 3.0 neither of which are going to be any more economical than the stang (although they will be a lot quicker) the MK3 mondeo is ok, but no better than any other alternative.
whatever you go for, check the DMF carefully, on almost any car they are a £1000 repair when (not if) they fail.
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Post by: philoldsmobile on August 15, 2011, 12:10:29 pm
again, if petrol is ok, I think a Volvo C70 would be my choice of sensible car, in orange (in fact, I was going to buy one before i bought the stang)
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Post by: Roadkill on August 15, 2011, 12:26:21 pm
Quoting: F Body
Just wondered what the price difference is between a Mondeo, Vectra and Passat of similar age/mileage are
Not much when I was looking.
Quoting: philoldsmobile
I'd avoid the Vectra like the plague
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)
They were one of my considerations briefly but after reading reviews I opted to go Ford.
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Post by: Incursus on August 15, 2011, 01:51:44 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: philoldsmobile I'd avoid the Vectra like the plague
They were one of my considerations briefly but after reading reviews I opted to go Ford.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)
Quoting: philoldsmobile
why limit yourself, there are some excellent alternatives out there. How about a volvo S40 (or C70 if you are ok with a petrol) or a Pug 406 HDi (excellent car for the money - ask don shiftini) you could also look into a Saab 9-3 or a honda accord
Quoting: Incursus
Honda Accord, Saab 93 and Volvo S60 are others on the list.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif) tbh I only had a 30min browse to see what out there. I've driven a Volvo V40 and Honda accord and they are both good cars, especially the Accord 2.2 CDti.. or whatever it's called.
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Post by: Incursus on August 15, 2011, 04:53:19 pm
It's the insurance I can't believe 2-3 times that of the Mustang!! for a boring old diesel (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
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Post by: Fieldy on August 15, 2011, 06:11:57 pm
My Mondeo is just under £600, my Blazer is £300.... Both UK cars!!
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Post by: philoldsmobile on August 15, 2011, 06:47:41 pm
Alfa is £396 comp with European breakdown cover, Ducati is £190 with no ncb (couldn't transfer it when I took the policy out, as the shunt was still being investigated)
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Post by: Incursus on August 15, 2011, 07:03:49 pm
Problem is I only have 2 years no claims (previous insurance companies didn't let me accrue it on a classic car) and I'd be doing ~28k mile a year.
Mustang is £360
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Post by: philoldsmobile on August 16, 2011, 07:04:31 am
hmmm.... if you can find an owners club, you can usually get your best deals there for insurance - my £25 per year fees for alfa owner easily outweigh the £200 insurance saving.
The other factor is the more mainstream the car, generally the more it costs to insure, example - maserati 3200GT's are quite cheap to insure, because they never got popular with chavballers in the way ferraris did, who then wrap them round the nearest lamp post.
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Post by: Roadkill on August 16, 2011, 03:44:33 pm
I insured through flux and as I had so many other previous policies they let me have mine for £390-odd IIRC - which I thought was steep !
That was 4 years NC.
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Post by: Incursus on August 16, 2011, 03:57:48 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
I insured through flux and as I had so many other previous policies they let me have mine for £390-odd IIRC - which I thought was steep !
Good to know as I'm with them at the moment. It's the miles that seem to make the biggest difference.
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Post by: Roadkill on August 16, 2011, 04:05:04 pm
Quoting: Incursus
It's the miles that seem to make the biggest difference
Really ?
I think I'm down for 25K / year
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Post by: Incursus on August 16, 2011, 05:46:29 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Really ?
I think I'm down for 25K / year
Yeah, at least on the online comparison sites the difference between 10k and 28k was over £100 per year.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 17, 2011, 07:43:13 am
Quoting: Incursus
Yeah, at least on the online comparison sites the difference between 10k and 28k was over £100 per year.
I can confirm that. going from 15 to 20k they wanted £120 more for me.
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Post by: Incursus on August 18, 2011, 01:50:40 pm
2nd interview next Friday (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: philoldsmobile on August 18, 2011, 08:15:26 pm
Good luck guys!!
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Post by: Roadkill on February 20, 2012, 04:09:12 pm
ONE YEAR AND 22,000 MILES ON . . . . . .
My Mondeo is still going - only one minor service in that time. Have replaced one headlight bulb and put on two tyres for the MoT - That's it !!!
Last tank's MPG averaged 55mpg (that included the snow)
The ONLY faults that have developed are:
A minor hot-start problem - takes a second or two on the starter (MPG not affected). Bulb behind the dash for the trip meter has failed (but still easily visable even at night)
Beat that Alfa Boy (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
EDIT - Current mileage just under 193,000 miles. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on February 21, 2012, 10:11:15 am
5500ish miles in a little over 4 months, 1 service and set of wipers. No issues...other than me busting up an alloy in January and the locking wheel nut key mysteriously vanishing from the ash tray last week (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Getting about 55MPG as well (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) The return trip to work is around 60mpg.
Current mileage 101600 ish
Washed it twice (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on February 21, 2012, 11:38:45 am
Quoting: Incursus
Washed it twice
I pay a crew of people (not poles (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)) to do that for me. :snob:
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on February 21, 2012, 02:54:43 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: Incursus Washed it twice
I pay a crew of people (not poles ) to do that for me. :snob:
Well yeah, never said I'd done it myself (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) Though the Poles do a good enough job for me.
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Post by: Andy on February 21, 2012, 03:12:13 pm
I'm back looking at the market for a new economical ride (yeah, probably not the best place to ask on an American car forum!) sadly a new or old Mondeo is not on the list. I'm limiting myself to 1.6 and will probably settle for a Focus Estate.
Good to hear your rides are holding up well! How's Rob getting on?
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Post by: EDGE on February 21, 2012, 05:39:06 pm
Ive got a 2000 focus estate dude, its awesome! I got the 1.8 as i know the ins and outs of them, the 1.6's are yamaha developed zetecs, you dont actually save much fuel using them as they have to work a lot harder!
the 1.6 is cheaper to tax kf ou get a 2001+, hence i went for a late 2000 1.8. I'd have got the TDCI if i was travelling to work but mpg isnt really an issue as i do less than 5k/year
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Post by: Roadkill on February 22, 2012, 10:39:26 am
Quoting: Andy
I'm limiting myself to 1.6 and will probably settle for a Focus Estate
Quoting: EDGE
Ive got a 2000 focus estate dude, its awesome! I got the 1.8 as i know the ins and outs of them, the 1.6's are yamaha developed zetecs, you dont actually save much fuel using them as they have to work a lot harder!
the 1.6 is cheaper to tax kf ou get a 2001+, hence i went for a late 2000 1.8. I'd have got the TDCI if i was travelling to work but mpg isnt really an issue as i do less than 5k/year
Interesting. I'm currently on the look out for a runaround for when Sammy goes back to work and was initially put off the Focus estates because of the 1.8L - which seemed to be standard on those.
She wants something small so I my even go for a Festa but that seems too small to me.
Focus's are better cars but there's more choice of Festa's, it seems. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Fieldy on February 22, 2012, 03:08:44 pm
That's great Dean.... My Bro-In-Law is shocked at how much he likes his Ford as he thought he would hate it...
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Post by: EDGE on February 22, 2012, 04:42:46 pm
i personally wouldnt fancy a fiesta, they're just a bit too small. THe focus is lovely (i had a mk1 focus when they first came out) so I may be a little biased. They ride very well, they're nippy enough on any motorway. I think the 1.8 has 115hp as standard, not as torquey obviously as the tdci but adequate for a daily runner.
Bits are cheap from eurocar parts, breakers yards are FULL of focuses so you're never left looking for a part. I pulled the front brake system off a focus st170 in a breakers yard and bolted it on to mine, the discs are massive and the calipers are huge. I'd do the upgrade on ANY focus i buy in the future, you simply CANNOT have too much braking power! especially around town when every f**kwit in front of you wants to park in a tiny space theyve seen at the last minute!
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Post by: Andy on February 22, 2012, 05:06:53 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif) last bit deserves that, so true.
I've had to make a serious choice in deciding that I *need* a reliable cheap car that I'm willing to put a fair bit of money into, to last 5-7 years.
I'm looking at less than 40k cars, enough room to fit either my mates or fishing gear in, and in blue.
Ive ruled out diesels, as although I drive about 100 miles a week just commuting, I don't think the offset of diesel works against petrol, so I'm looking at 1600cc or smaller petrols really.
I'm sold on Fords as they're cheap like you say! Might not be as refined as say Hondas or VW's they're still great value for money.
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Post by: Roadkill on February 22, 2012, 05:31:34 pm
Quoting: Andy
VW's
Our secretary has had nothing but problems with her 55 plate Passat - It's literally in the garage every couple of months and it's only got 88K on it !
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Post by: Andy on February 22, 2012, 05:33:37 pm
Yeah, my old lady said to check out the Polio in the garage where she bought hers from, but I'm struggling to find a good review for them. Bloody cheap to insure though! A 1.4 Sport comes in a sub £300 for me!
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Post by: Roadkill on April 18, 2012, 08:52:03 am
Just tipped 196,500 miles today (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif) . . . the big 2-0-0-0-0-0 will be here in June I reckon (doing some training locally so should reduce my miles for April/May).
No problems and no money spent on her . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 18, 2012, 09:47:16 am
Any servicing planned coming up?
Oil and filter change maybe? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on April 18, 2012, 09:59:25 am
Last serviced very late July, 2011 at around 181,000 miles so I'll probably leave it a bit longer . . maybe at the magical 200,000 point ?
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Post by: Andy on April 18, 2012, 10:03:16 am
Quoting: Roadkill
maybe at the magical 200,000 point
Treat her to the finest stuff (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 18, 2012, 11:49:34 am
20k on the same oil (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono.gif)
Still, it's been chugging along so far (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Andy on April 18, 2012, 11:58:22 am
Quoting: Cunning Plan
20k on the same oil
Hmm, How does this fit with you. My Focus was serviced in February, mileage 22.5k, it reckons in the book, the next oil change isn't due till 50k?!
I'm taking the bugger back and getting it done either way, but thats according to the book.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 18, 2012, 02:16:58 pm
There is no way I would leave oil going for 20-odd thousand miles (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/jaw.gif)
I know oil technology has improved, but still, sludge, fuel contamination along with all the metal fragments floating around isn't ideal.
The manual for my gf's Fiesta says Ford recommend 12k intivals but Haynes recommend 6k, especially the filter, which is what we stick to. It is only £20 for oil and a filter for a Ford.
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Post by: Fieldy on April 19, 2012, 10:02:03 am
Quoting: Cunning Plan
There is no way I would leave oil going for 20-odd thousand miles
I have left mine for 25k miles without changing (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
Just had mine MOT'd, advisory on a tyre which I knew about but couldn't source one in time (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: art b on April 19, 2012, 10:31:36 am
you will find its the turbos which wont like dirty oil...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif) and there not cheap or easy to replace...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
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Post by: Andy on April 19, 2012, 10:35:16 am
Quoting: Andy
Hmm, How does this fit with you. My Focus was serviced in February, mileage 22.5k, it reckons in the book, the next oil change isn't due till 50k?!
I'm taking the bugger back and getting it done either way, but thats according to the book.
Ignore that, read the book wrong... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: art b on April 19, 2012, 10:37:31 am
check out the case study half way down the article...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on April 19, 2012, 11:18:35 am
Quoting: art b
you will find its the turbos which wont like dirty oil... and there not cheap or easy to replace.
Quoting: art b
check out the case study half way down the article...
Yup, for £20, I would rather just change the oil.
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Post by: Fieldy on April 19, 2012, 08:33:03 pm
Mine is non-turbo petrol
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Post by: Roadkill on April 20, 2012, 08:04:31 am
Meh.
I figure at nearly 200K she's worn in enough to cope. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Besides I want the old oil to mix with "creosote" to paint the fence with this year and I'm not quite ready to do that yet. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Andy on April 20, 2012, 09:01:46 am
Do you want a drum of creosote? Got a drum at mine thats doing nothing but stinking the place up! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on April 20, 2012, 10:22:41 am
Already have my own smelly drum in the back garden - been saving it for this occasion !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Andy on April 20, 2012, 02:23:53 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif) balls.
Regret buying the thing now. It was a bet my dad set me, saying you can't buy it any more 'yadda yadda' huh, I showed him, bought a whole 25 litre drum. Turns out he didn't want to creosote the shed after all, instead use some nancy boy preservatives.
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Post by: EDGE on April 20, 2012, 03:26:54 pm
creocote is awesome! I use it in our garden on things that I want to last.. everything else gets 'preservative'
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Post by: Roadkill on May 02, 2012, 09:43:16 am
197,050 miles . . . . She had a relative rest last week while I was training. Back to it this week. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on May 02, 2012, 10:31:50 am
Monster!
I am going to get my old Mondeo back on the road to give to my sister, that's at 162k. (Petrol).
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Post by: ianjpage on May 02, 2012, 11:25:20 am
Quoting: Roadkill
197,050 miles . . . . She had a relative rest last week while I was training. Back to it this week.
So is the 200k this week or next then lol
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Post by: Roadkill on May 02, 2012, 11:46:10 am
I average about 2100 miles a month so mid June I reckon. I'll hold off servicing until then. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Titsy on May 02, 2012, 12:15:34 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/grenade.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on May 02, 2012, 12:50:34 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/taunt.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on May 02, 2012, 03:12:21 pm
I'm a risk-taker. What can I say ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: daveyboy on May 02, 2012, 06:00:15 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
20k on the same oil
i ran my astro for over 3 years as a daily and done 37,000 miles in it and i never changed the oil or even had to top it up. it was always run on lpg and every time i checked the oil always looked clear, not like new but it was never black.
tbh, i never spent a penny on it service wise because it just kept going. no advisories on the first 3 mots and on the last i got two, n/s front tyre worn on edge and rear brakes low. i sold it then lol(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on May 24, 2012, 08:34:56 pm
Passed 198,000 today . . . in fairness, with Sammy having her own car and me on training quite a bit, the Mondeo's had a proper holiday of late !
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Post by: Incursus on May 25, 2012, 06:38:33 am
Had to change the o/s/r handbrake cable this week for the MOT on mine....and apparently the tax ran out in April...oops (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Anyway all good now and as I've done about 10,000 miles since the last service in November she'll be getting another while I'm off next week (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Should probably do the Mustang too (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on June 20, 2012, 09:54:15 am
Passing 199,000 today.
Got a few reasonable trips lined up for the next week so will see the big 200K in early July.
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Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2012, 03:39:09 pm
Will try to get video !! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
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Post by: art b on July 03, 2012, 07:25:14 pm
my audi has 186k on the clock... but i only managed 4000 miles in between the mots...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
nice not to be spending so much time driving all over the place..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: ianjpage on July 03, 2012, 08:29:02 pm
Quoting: art b
nice not to be spending so much time driving all over the place..
yeah know what you mean - going from spending 70 quid a week on fuel, to 60 quid every month is much nicer !
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Post by: Incursus on July 04, 2012, 06:38:19 am
Quoting: ianjpage
Quoting: art b
nice not to be spending so much time driving all over the place..
yeah know what you mean - going from spending 70 quid a week on fuel, to 60 quid every month is much nicer !
Not so bad when you it back almost double at the end of the month though (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: ianjpage on July 04, 2012, 11:27:37 am
Quoting: Incursus
Not so bad when you it back almost double at the end of the month though
yup, if you get it back - that was money i was spending and NOT getting back on expenses as those were 'normal' commuting costs - Business miles on expenses rock though (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on July 04, 2012, 06:17:43 pm
Yeah - expenses are great - today alone got me around £110 and the fuel only probably cost £25-max.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
She blitzed the 200,000 mile-mark, of course . . . on about 200,137 at the moment.
She passed it on the way back from Tamworth . . . So as a treat I detoured into Stony Stratford and picked up new Oil & Air filters, 5L of 5W 30 Semi and a can of engine flush. I also chucked in half a bottle of Redex injector cleaner when I filled up earlier, too.
Service parts = £31.00 - my only outlay during the second year of ownership so far (since 20th February that is).
She's been cleaned but I didn't pay for that. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: ianjpage on July 04, 2012, 08:25:11 pm
Changed the Oil and Air Filters earlier this afternoon - Great weather for it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
New oil, too, obviously . . . Even gave the engine bay a wipe round (looks surprisingly a lot better).
Will investigate the belt and decide if I'm doing that too.
Have been a little concerned about the economy she's returning of late but the last tank returned just over 700 miles (which was a 60/40 mix of motorway and town journies) so am happy, there !!
Last tank averaged : 57mpg - Not the best but still perfectly acceptable.
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Post by: Roadkill on October 01, 2012, 09:06:25 am
Economy has now gone up a bit . . . seems she prefers the colder weather ?????
Anyway.
She passed 205,000 miles a few days back.
Still going strong. Nothing to report.
Would guess she'll need new rear tyres for winter. Maybe front brake pads (the first since I've had her). We'll see.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 02, 2012, 09:50:10 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Economy has now gone up a bit . . . seems she prefers the colder weather ?????
I assumed the fuel economy will improve with cooler weather on most cars, due to the denser air. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on October 02, 2012, 01:46:57 pm
I assumed it'd be worse as the car is on "choke" longer . . . ?
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Post by: Andy on October 02, 2012, 02:37:34 pm
Diesels don't have a choke, they just run like a bag of shit for 10 mins after start up. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Mine always performed better in winter, I put it down to the intercooler being a LOT more effective with cold air hitting it as opposed to it be relatively warm all the time under the bonnet.
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Post by: Roadkill on October 02, 2012, 04:00:03 pm
Learn something new everyday . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 03, 2012, 07:53:04 am
Quoting: Roadkill
I assumed it'd be worse as the car is on "choke" longer . . . ?
For the initial start up until the engine is at normal temperature, I guess it would be worse, but for the rest of the journey it should improve due to the cooler, denser air.
Quoting: Andy
I put it down to the intercooler being a LOT more effective with cold air hitting it as opposed to it be relatively warm all the time under the bonnet.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/thumbsup.gif)
Quoting: Andy
Diesels don't have a choke, they just run like a bag of shit for 10 mins after start up.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono2.gif)
Some old Diesels used to. My 87' VW T3 1.6D came with a choke. I assumed they increased the fuelling by moving a valve on the pump and forcing the engine to run rich.
Modern Diesels run a 'cold strategy' controlled by the ECU, much like the Petrol engines. This would be a change in fuelling and air quantity. Some even change the engine timing.
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Post by: Andy on October 03, 2012, 10:56:41 am
Yeah, some of the original diesels did, but even my Mk 2 didn't have one, and that didn't have an ecu. I put it down to there being no advantage of choking off the diesel as its not an explosive combustion but a compressive one. Add to that the diesel is injected directly into the cylinder!
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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 03, 2012, 12:24:13 pm
Quoting: Andy
Yeah, some of the original diesels did, but even my Mk 2 didn't have one, and that didn't have an ecu. I put it down to there being no advantage of choking off the diesel as its not an explosive combustion but a compressive one. Add to that the diesel is injected directly into the cylinder!
Just thought about the differences with Diesel and Petrol.
We are forgetting the glow-plugs!
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dunce.gif)
They warm the cylinder enough for the first start. So, where a choke or cold strategy attempts to run an engine rich or advanced whilst it is cold to allow it to warm up, the glow-plugs just warm the cylinders directly, then as you say, the compression ignition then powers through the rest of the start. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Andy on October 05, 2012, 08:40:04 am
This isn't diesel related but I've noticed my predicted miles to go and MPG figure increase by 20 miles the last week. No change in driving habits I've noticed, in fact I've been using the AC more to clear the screen in the morning. (God bless Ford's Quickclear screen thing!)
I can only think that it's due to the colder air at the moment. Only driving my car really between 6-7 and 8-11pm, so it's always colder.
Anyway, back to the derv talk!
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Post by: Roadkill on October 05, 2012, 01:44:37 pm
Not needed to use the quick clear, yet. It's got down to 4*C a few times, though . . .
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Post by: Incursus on October 05, 2012, 02:02:24 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Not needed to use the quick clear, yet. It's got down to 4*C a few times, though . . .
Used the HFS twice this week though it was damp, cold and 6am (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
On the plus side my bodge fix of the passenger side element seems to be holding (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on October 05, 2012, 03:23:44 pm
Must've been lucky. I leave for site at 6am 2-4 times a week and have just got in and drove off. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Andy on October 05, 2012, 03:34:23 pm
How did you fix/bodge the other side element? I can't believe I currently have a car that it works in, I've never seen one completely clear the screen before, either does half or a good version of a barcode!
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Post by: Roadkill on October 05, 2012, 04:52:08 pm
Mine's spot on. Works 100% . . . .
<= <smug>
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 05, 2012, 06:26:03 pm
My old Mondeo only cleared half the screen, my Pop's Mondeo doesn't work at all, but the HFS in my gf's Fiesta works, for now...... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on October 05, 2012, 07:19:15 pm
Check the three fuses, if they're OK then there are two connectors under the windscreen cowl. Give those a check and clean up (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on October 23, 2012, 03:19:42 pm
DID SOMEONE SAY SERVICING ?
Well and truly got my money's worth out of the front pads - over 36000 miles in my ownership and f**k knows how many before !
Discs were also utterly f**ked and look like the originals. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
£18 for pads, £36 for discs. Not bad. Was hoping they'd last a little longer, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Had a look around while the wheels were off - all looks spot-on . . . no worn lines or boots. Everything looks good.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
To cap it off got both sides done, finished and tools away in an hour !
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Post by: ianjpage on October 23, 2012, 08:49:18 pm
wow they were well adn truly knackered then!
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Post by: art b on October 23, 2012, 10:14:39 pm
you should get a lot better braking now then....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
the ''smaller'' pads must have still been in there when you changed the disc...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif) how do they compare to the new uns..?
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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 24, 2012, 07:45:58 am
Quoting: art b
the ''smaller'' pads must have still been in there when you changed the disc... how do they compare to the new uns..?
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Post by: Titsy on October 24, 2012, 11:33:44 am
Quoting: art b
the ''smaller'' pads must have still been in there when you changed the disc...
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plustwo.gif)
That area being shiny suggests that's what you've been braking on recently...
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Post by: Incursus on October 24, 2012, 11:57:42 am
Quoting: Titsy
That area being shiny suggests that's what you've been braking on recently...
knowing RK metal on metal for a good 1000 miles (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
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Post by: art b on October 24, 2012, 01:18:36 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/funny.gif) but true (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Andy on October 24, 2012, 02:19:15 pm
It takes skill to skim your own brake discs (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on October 24, 2012, 02:26:42 pm
The pads what came out looked like they were once the same but for some reason the inner pads wore like that.
Almost as if the centre section was tougher material . . ?
Funny thing is the brakes were always very good and never made a noise or snatched . . . I was quite shocked to see the discs were that bad as they gave no hint of it . . .
EDIT - I was just about down to the metal tabs on the ends of the brackets so suppose it could've been that that created the groove but, again, with all the driving I do I should've felt that sooner.
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Post by: Roadkill on November 19, 2012, 02:22:33 pm
Just ordered a new screen washer pump off ebay - £5.99.
My fault the old one died, really . . . I purposely let the water level drop to nothing so I could flush out the tank . . but in priming the totally empty tubes burn't out the old pump !
It obviously didn't have long left and it's an easy swap so I'm not too bothered.
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Thinking about it it's the first thing that's actually broken on the car in some manner which isn't a "serviceable" item, as such*
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*Unless it's an Alfa, then every part is a seviceable item according to PhilO
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Post by: Incursus on November 20, 2012, 08:18:09 am
Had mine just over a year now, done 26000 miles ish though has cost me more than yours (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)
2 new wheels and a wing mirror £134, 2 tyres £170 and the injectors £500.. Around £80 on service consumables. = £884
Of course she's earn't me over £5k after fuel expenses and the insurance is literally half what it was last year thanks to Chris Knott.
Not included the original cost of the car either so a profit of around £2.5k (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on November 20, 2012, 10:24:24 am
Do you work at one fixed place of work, Chris, or at multiple locations ? (I ask as for mileage allowances you can't claim for travel to a fixed place of work - unless they've changed that in which case I need to put in more (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif))
So I don't get paid to travel to my offices in Leighton Buzzard but do to, say, London, as it's not classed as my fixed place of work.
It's worth triple-checking as my former Director had to pay back over £7000 in falsely claimed mileage when we were audited a few years back ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
In the last calendar (not tax) year, my total costs have be £31 service parts, £54 brake parts, £6 washer pump. She'll need two new rear tyres for the MoT in December @ £45 each, fitted.
Quoting: Incursus
2 tyres £170
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) - My £45 ones have done 20,000 so far and haven't even worn half way, yet . . . what do you get out of £85 tyres ?
Current mileage is just under 209,000 . . . .
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Post by: Andy on November 20, 2012, 10:47:24 am
£45 a tyre?!
Serious? They must be a Chinese brand of some sort or you get a killer deal.
Stuff like brakes and tyres I will spend a premium on. It hurts the bank, but I'd like to know I'm rolling safe. My tyres are circa £90 a corner and are Michellins, I apparently pay a premium as they're 16" but still reasonable on my opinion.
Was reading on pistonheads about some Chinese brand tyres are being sold without E marks and are banned in German.
Might have opened a can here and don't mean to cause offence, would like to know how they react when driving in the wet/other conditions.
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Post by: Incursus on November 20, 2012, 12:18:51 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Do you work at one fixed place of work, Chris, or at multiple locations ?
Altran pay 25 pence per mile for me to travel to work and I can claim the other 20p per mile (for the 1st 10,000 miles) off the tax man as expenses tax relief, via a P87 though only if I'm not travelling to the same place for more than 2 years.
Quoting: Roadkill
what do you get out of £85 tyres ?
Actually looking back they were £137 for the pair (fitted). They were a well reviewed tyre in the mid price bracket, (HANKOOK K425 KINERGY) I try not skimp too much on tyres, safety first and all that. They were also supposed to be more fuel efficient than other tyres but I didn't notice any difference. They came fitted at them work, got them from Event Tyres, a fair price imo (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
I've only done about 4000 miles on them so far they but handle the motorways and wet country roads fine, including an emergency brake last week. The back end did slip out a little on a muddy round-a-bout last week but I don't know what tyres are on the back, at least one them is a cheap tyre put on by the garage I bought the car from.
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Post by: Andy on November 20, 2012, 12:23:22 pm
Event Tyres are a good bunch, really good prices for what they offer and how flexible they are!
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Post by: Incursus on November 20, 2012, 12:28:26 pm
Quoting: Andy
Event Tyres are a good bunch, really good prices for what they offer and how flexible they are!
Indeed, couldn't fault the guy/company and it saved me wasting precious weekend time getting tyres fitted (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on November 20, 2012, 12:38:56 pm
My cheapie tyres are good.
Quiet enough on the motorways, good in the wet. Have handled 4 heavy/emergency braking scenarios and cope with country lanes fine.
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I could drive the car harder I suppose by why would you, it's a diesel hearse !?
For the record they're 16" "Autogrip F100's" . . . both "E" marked and "DOT" marked . . . Been on the car (front) for about a year, now.
Think I had them in the snow last winter . . don't remember them being particularly bad or good . . .
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Post by: Cunning Plan on November 20, 2012, 02:08:26 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
- My £45 ones have done 20,000 so far and haven't even worn half way, yet . . . what do you get out of £85 tyres ?
Quoting: Andy
£45 a tyre?!
Serious? They must be a Chinese brand of some sort or you get a killer deal.
I paid £30 a tyre for (from memory) 185/70/14 for Firestones all round, then when the front wore first (as they always do), I replaced the fronts alone with 'Khumos'? They would happily do 25/30k on the front.
Those rear Firestones I bought back in 2009-ish are STILL going after 50k on my old Mondeo which has now been scrapped (banger raced) and are now on my Pop's Mondeo which has done a further 20k, yet they still have plenty of rubber left! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/banjo.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on December 11, 2012, 02:32:10 pm
She passed 210,000 miles today. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/worship.gif)
No major issues to report - replaced a headlight bulb earlier (in stock in my roll-cab so £ free) and still need to fit the £5.99 washer pump . . . will need to do that this weekend as it's due for an MoT next week . . .
Also, as mentioned will need 1 or two tyres, too.
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Post by: Incursus on December 11, 2012, 02:37:32 pm
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Also lost a headlight bulb yesterday, that's the third since I bought her! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on December 11, 2012, 03:49:50 pm
I think I've replaced two, now, in just under 40,000 miles . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on December 11, 2012, 03:57:04 pm
I blame the Auto on/off system and 6am starts...and 26000 miles a significant chunk of that in the dark/dusk/dawn.
EDIT: of course I have no idea how long the bulbs had been on there when I bought it but they blew fairly soon and within a month of each other.
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Post by: Andy on December 11, 2012, 04:20:19 pm
Beat 4 in a month. That's how many I had to replace in the time I owned that cougar. It's not so much shits and giggles when everytime you have to remove the headlight unit. Mind you, blowing bulbs was the tip of the iceberg for that thing!
210k... Nearly at the moon!
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Post by: Roadkill on December 11, 2012, 05:22:37 pm
I'm going for quarter of a million . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
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Post by: art b on December 11, 2012, 06:21:28 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
I think I've replaced two, now, in just under 40,000 miles . . .
god them fords are money pits...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on December 19, 2012, 04:05:35 pm
Just put two side light bulbs in, too !
Off to the MoT station I go . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Post by: Roadkill on January 03, 2013, 12:05:07 pm
Passed the MoT no problem (in fact the words "amazing" were uttered regarding the condition considering the high mileage)
However, between Chrimbo and New Year the N/S/F spring snapped which left the old girl near-crippled.
The new spring was just £19 but after reading up on it I decided that I didn't have the time (or daylight) to do it myself so I dropped it off this morning to be sorted (should be £40 labour).
Just need to finish fitting the washer pump - B@stard of a job as there's just no room in there - will need to go in from the wheel arch.
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Post by: ianjpage on January 03, 2013, 12:32:11 pm
cool not too bad toget the spring sorted, plus prob a bit safer than trying to do it at home!!
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Post by: Andy on January 03, 2013, 01:12:25 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Just need to finish fitting the washer pump - B@stard of a job as there's just no room in there - will need to go in from the wheel arch.
Good luck, I know how much of a ball ache it was on my Mk2. Its hid well away on a MK3 too..
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Post by: Incursus on January 03, 2013, 02:01:25 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Just need to finish fitting the washer pump - B@stard of a job as there's just no room in there - will need to go in from the wheel arch.
Does the pump run both the front and back washers? I remember when the front pump went on my ..Maestro..I think it was.. we just swapped the tubes over and ran the front washers from the rear pump switch (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
the N/S/F spring snapped
Nothing to do with taking round-a-bouts at 50mph was it? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on January 03, 2013, 02:09:00 pm
Quoting: Incursus
Does the pump run both the front and back washers?
Yeah.
Quoting: Incursus
Nothing to do with taking round-a-bouts at 50mph was it?
It was more like 55mph, actually . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
But, No, it just went . . . it made itself known going over a speed bump but it had been noisy just before then and I didn't take the speed bump fast at all.
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Post by: Roadkill on January 03, 2013, 02:11:19 pm
Quoting: Andy
Its hid well away on a MK3 too..
Yep, looks about right. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
I've got it disconnected and hanging by the wiring at the mo.
Didn't have a small enough socket (at home) to take the liners out so had to abandon it.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on January 07, 2013, 07:48:31 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
the N/S/F spring snapped
You would think Ford would have learnt from the MK1 and MK2 springs snapping to find a higher quality spring or redesign them. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
At least that spring snapped after massive mileage rather than 100k ish (when my old Mondeo's one snapped). My sister's husbands MK2 also had a spring go at 90k. My Dad's Mondeo spring snapped at 110k-ish.
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Post by: Roadkill on February 27, 2013, 03:28:34 pm
Passed 215,000 yesterday . . . already on 215,350 this morning ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: art b on February 27, 2013, 08:56:13 pm
250k is looming ...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
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Post by: Andy on February 28, 2013, 08:20:24 am
Nearly made it to the moon! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on March 06, 2013, 05:03:00 pm
Finally got that washer pump fitted, too.
What a F*cking ball ache !
The eBay seller sent me the wrong pump (didn't notice til I had the old one sitting next to it) so I had to use the top part of the old pump and the bottom part of the new one, dremel-down the connectors and turn one of them through 90 degrees !!
Went to clip it in place and found that the body of the new one is slightly too big so forced it in place . . . . connected it up, tested - all good.
Put some water in and it's leaking out of one of the water pipe connectors !!!
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Drained the tank and disconnected the pipe, smeared some araldite on the pipe at the pump then clipped it back on.
No leaks - all working fine.
Total time over three attempts . . . about 4 hours !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on April 25, 2013, 03:52:07 pm
Recent expenditures :
£17 - For a New, genuine Ford Hub cap that I lost to an EPIC pot hole a few weeks back.
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£9 - For a second hand Ford aerial "whip" (I managed to loose mine after taking it off so we could rest the Camaro's bonnet on the roof !!!)
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£81 - Parts and Labour for the N/S/F wheel bearing.
Current MPG is on 57.1.
Another big milestone is looming. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sofa.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on April 26, 2013, 06:34:50 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Another big milestone is looming
A service? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on April 26, 2013, 08:32:03 am
Quoting: Incursus
A service?
Nah, that's yearly in July. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on April 26, 2013, 09:06:12 am
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) I've been doing mine twice a year..between 10-15k miles.
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Post by: Roadkill on April 26, 2013, 09:20:08 am
I figure mine's so old every 25,000-odd miles will be O.K. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on May 01, 2013, 04:10:25 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Another big milestone is looming.
Passed 220,000 miles yesterday !!!
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Clutch isn't sounding too healthy these days but I'll keep going til it falls apart !!!
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Post by: Roadkill on May 28, 2013, 04:16:11 pm
After a week's rest the noise from the clutch has gone away (for now) !!!
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She's officially done the distance to the moon today at 221,600 Miles.
Rear brakes squeak every now and then so next time I get a minute and it's not p!ssing down . . . . . . .
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Post by: Incursus on May 29, 2013, 06:54:03 am
Quoting: Roadkill
She's officially done the distance to the moon today at 221,600 Miles.
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110,000 more than mine (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on May 29, 2013, 08:17:07 am
Quoting: Incursus
110,000 more than mine
Another couple of years'll sort that. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
After a week's rest the noise from the clutch has gone away (for now) !!!
The noise came back !!! - But not as loud and only occasionally so that's still better !!!
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Post by: Cunning Plan on May 29, 2013, 08:17:45 am
Quoting: Roadkill
She's officially done the distance to the moon today at 221,600 Miles.
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Post by: Fieldy on May 29, 2013, 09:20:29 am
Yep, twice the miles of mine. Still prefer my mk2 over my wife's mk3 but hey ho, I still haven't even serviced my mk2, think I've done about 35k miles since buying it, over 3 years.
The mk3 we have has been booked in for a service, figured I owed it one as it only had 2 advisories for its mot, which I knew about both before putting it in.
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Post by: Incursus on May 29, 2013, 10:00:21 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: Incursus 110,000 more than mine
Another couple of years'll sort that
More like 3-4 years at my current rate... I don't expect it to last that long though.
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Post by: Roadkill on May 29, 2013, 10:34:36 am
Quoting: Incursus
I don't expect it to last that long though.
That's what I said nearly 50,000 miles ago ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on May 29, 2013, 11:38:38 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: Incursus I don't expect it to last that long though.
That's what I said nearly 50,000 miles ago !
Indeed, you never know.
To be fair it's running better than ever and passed it's MOT with flying colours (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) (advisors on front tyres, number plate & inner driveshaft cv boot).
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Post by: Roadkill on June 12, 2013, 09:17:13 am
This could be the beginning of the end . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
Have done a bit of research on the "squeak" I'm getting when changing down gears and it's looking like it could be the clutch slave cylinder. Not a big deal, maybe, but apparently to replace them you need to drop the gearbox . . . . Which means you should also be replacing the clutch and flywheel too (and the starter motor according to Ford) . . .
Meh.
On top of that I had a flashing glow-plug light about a week ago (symptoms are about 50% engine power, sluggish after 10mph) . That quickly went away. Then came back and also put the engine management light on too.
Then they both went out. Again.
Then last night the plug light came back on. This morning that light is back out but the engine management light is back on again !
It doesn't seem to be storing any codes, though ??
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There seems to be a pattern. She's never had a physical issue when starting from cold. Every time the glow plug light has come on (when there's been a loss of power) it's been when she's been started from hot.
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Post by: Andy on June 12, 2013, 09:35:46 am
If the slave cylinder is needing replacing then yeah, best to do the clutch to, then if the clutch needs replacing the DMF should be replaced as well. That is what everyone recommends as you don't want to be 10k down the road and find the DMF is borked. Only when it is really borked are you likely to start having issues with the starter. That comment about changing it to is only if the DMF has been playing up for a long time.
Have your tried the in built diagnostics to see if it has any codes? You may need a more specific code reader than just a generic OBD2 one. If the light is coming up a code is being thrown and should be readable somehow. That said, even with the code it could be cryptic what is actually going wrong.
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Post by: Incursus on June 12, 2013, 09:54:13 am
Quoting: Roadkill
On top of that I had a flashing glow-plug light about a week ago (symptoms are about 50% engine power, sluggish after 10mph) . That quickly went away. Then came back and also put the engine management light on too.
Then they both went out. Again.
Then last night the plug light came back on. This morning that light is back out but the engine management light is back on again !
It doesn't seem to be storing any codes, though ??
There seems to be a pattern. She's never had a physical issue when starting from cold. Every time the glow plug light has come on (when there's been a loss of power) it's been when she's been started from hot.
Ideas ?
Hmm . . .
Sounds like one or more of your injectors has worn out, as it sounds identical to the issues I had. Not surprising really as they normally go somewhere between 100-130K. Around £500 a pair if you get a garage to do it or you can risk getting used ones off Ebay £150 ish quid each if you wanted to do it yourself...though I can't remember if they have to be coded to the ECU.
Edit: The poor running degraded to almost unusable after around 200 miles for me, that and your clutch issues though...sounds like it's time to find another car.. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on June 12, 2013, 09:56:02 am
Quoting: Andy
Have your tried the in built diagnostics to see if it has any codes?
Apparently (according to the thread added the link to) the dash only display dash fault codes, not engine codes ?
I'll try to get it somewhere to get the codes read. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on June 12, 2013, 10:02:10 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Apparently (according to the thread added the link to) the dash only display dash fault codes, not engine codes ?
I'll try to get it somewhere to get the codes read.
Steve just happened to have a reader when my car broke, though It was borrowed.
I have some kit I can borrow from work though I've not used it to read DTC's off a Ford before..in theory it should work.
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Post by: Roadkill on June 12, 2013, 10:04:50 am
Chris - was yours like it all the time or or-and-on ? As I've already done 300+ miles since the issue first appeared.
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Post by: Roadkill on June 12, 2013, 10:06:02 am
Quoting: Incursus
Steve just happened to have a reader when my car broke, though It was borrowed.
He tried one on mine but apparently the 2005's won't necessarily talk to the reader - only 2006 and onwards.
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Post by: Incursus on June 12, 2013, 10:12:12 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Chris - was yours like it all the time or or-and-on
The first pair started on and off and went to on all the time within 200 mile or so, the second pair was on and off for about a week before I had them replaced.
Quoting: Roadkill
He tried one on mine but apparently the 2005's won't necessarily talk to the reader - only 2006 and onwards.
Pretty sure it's 2003 onwards for the diesel but I can't remember where I read that...also mines 2005 and it read fine.
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Post by: art b on June 12, 2013, 10:37:51 am
Quoting: Incursus
.sounds like it's time to find another car.
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Post by: Roadkill on June 12, 2013, 10:56:14 am
I don't plan to replace the Mondeo immediately.
As Sammy's not using her Focus, I'll just tax that and use that short-term. It's not as economical as the Mondeo but there's no point getting another car if one's sitting there taking up space and doing nothing.
The tax runs out on the Mondeo at the end of the month (it's also due a service then, too) so I'm hoping WORSE CASE to try to limp until then.
I've got a 110-mile round trip to do later today and a few 250-milers later this month so we'll see.
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Post by: Titsy on June 12, 2013, 11:17:21 am
It might have been the app I was trying to use with it TBH... I couldn't remember which one I used with Chris's car, but have since tried the app we were using on yours with mine and it was a PITA... We can try again if you like. I can do a flying visit (and it will need to be flying) on the way home tonight if you're in before 6pm...
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Post by: Roadkill on June 12, 2013, 11:32:30 am
Will be in just before 6pm (unless the car breaks down !) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on June 19, 2013, 08:31:55 am
Titsy managed to pull the code "P2263" from the Mondeo . . .
And so begins the vain attempt to preserve the old girl a little longer.
On Monday night I took off and cleaned the EGR valve and then checked the pipes to the Turbo.
The EGR speaks for itself but the pipes underneath (a mix of metal and rubber pipes joining them) looked O.K.
There were drips of oil forming right at the bottom of this pipe but I figure it's just a build up of oil vapour condensed and seeped out the join ?
I wouldn't thought it would've affected the turbo ???
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Post by: Incursus on June 19, 2013, 08:48:50 am
Does yours have an electronic turbo actuator? Mines vacuum..which is odd as they were on pre 2003 models as far as I can tell (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
EDIT: I did all these easy fix checks before discovering it was the Injectors, Turbo issues generally produce smoking exhaust (black)
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Post by: Roadkill on June 19, 2013, 10:09:22 am
What code was yours showing ?
I'll look at the actuator tonight. No black smoke (unless you boot it hard when off of limp mode).
The link above matches my symptoms EXACTLY (even down to turning off the motor at speed and restarting while rolling to clear the fault - done this 6 times already before reading that thread).
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Post by: Titsy on June 19, 2013, 10:10:58 am
Quoting: Incursus
I did all these easy fix checks before discovering it was the Injectors, Turbo issues generally produce smoking exhaust (black)
The code is for a turbo boost performance loss. I would have expected a code relating to injectors if that was the case...
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Post by: Incursus on June 19, 2013, 10:19:43 am
Quoting: Roadkill
What code was yours showing ?
The second time it was P0251 but then the symptoms were different as well.
1st time I didn't get the code but the symptoms were more like yours, I'm not saying it's your injectors just sharing my experience...at the end of the day it could even be a clogged fuel filter (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Titsy on June 19, 2013, 10:24:49 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Just found this. My issues are exactly the same so sounds promising . . .
This does look promising... Worth checking given the number of miles you've done it's entirely possible you've dislodged one of the wires with vibration. NB, the look to be welded not soldered, which is probably why the guy had to clean the pads back to copper to solder it.
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Post by: Roadkill on June 19, 2013, 10:32:10 am
If I take this part off (and there's an issue) can someone (more skilled with an iron) sort it for me ?
The soldering iron I have in my roll-cab is akin to soldering with a heated cold-chisel, accuracy-wise. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on June 19, 2013, 10:44:02 am
Quoting: Roadkill
If I take this part off (and there's an issue) can someone (more skilled with an iron) sort it for me ?
The soldering iron I have in my roll-cab is akin to soldering with a heated cold-chisel, accuracy-wise.
Sure, my iron should be good enough for that kind of work if it can be cleaned back to the copper.
Be interested to see if you have the electronic actuator (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on June 19, 2013, 11:32:41 am
I'll have a look tonight but can't risk disabling the car tonight as I need Thursday, maybe Friday. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on June 19, 2013, 01:13:10 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
After :
WTF did you use to clean that? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on June 19, 2013, 01:22:21 pm
Initially a screwdriver . . . then thinners, kitchen roll and finger nails. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
NO man should not have one of these in his arsenal !
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Post by: Roadkill on June 20, 2013, 11:22:32 am
Had a look last night (later than expected as it took ages for the motor to cool down enough for me to lay across it !!) . .
It's definitely an electronic actuator. I took off the C-clip and moved the ram back and forth and it seems free and fairly smooth at the turbo end.
I didn't take the actuator off last night as I couldn't risk disabling her last night.
I'll park her up and remove it tomorrow night . . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on June 27, 2013, 08:48:30 am
Didn't attack the Turbo Actuator until last night as I needed her to clock some heavy miles on Monday and Wednesday so -
Anyway. Got the actuator off (literally a 2-minute job including finding the tools).
Took it apart and surely enough there appears to be at least one broken connection.
Have brought it into work today so am gonna try soldering it on my lunch break.
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Fingers crossed . . . .
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Post by: Andy on June 27, 2013, 09:54:28 am
That'd be extremely awesome if that's the fault. And what a find! Would be interesting to see how many cars may have been written off due to a similar simple fix like that!
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Post by: Titsy on June 27, 2013, 11:10:50 am
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Post by: Roadkill on June 27, 2013, 12:55:31 pm
At this stage I must announce that I will NOT be giving up my day job . . . . .
I had two wires with duff connections . . . due to lack of expertise / heavy handedness I managed to break one of the 4mm long wires off completely !!!
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Somehow I managed to get it back on . . . roughly . . . here's how it turned out . . .
I'm not sure if the blob of solder over the right-hand wire will effect it somehow ???
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Despite the look of it they do all have solid connections, now . . . and it did take some scrubbing with a needle file to get down to copper.
Will re-fit tonight unless someone tells me that the right-hand wire needs improving.
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Post by: Incursus on June 27, 2013, 02:04:24 pm
That's what I call a solder bridge (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Andy on June 27, 2013, 02:17:12 pm
Be-Jesus!
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Post by: Roadkill on June 27, 2013, 02:36:14 pm
But it shouldn't affect anything should it ?
I'm thinking thin wire now resembles a bit of rope . . . it won't alter the resistance and affect the signal through the wire/solder blob or something daft like that ???
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Post by: Titsy on June 27, 2013, 03:29:35 pm
Not pretty, but should be alright... Have you made sure to blast out any debris with a can or air or air line? you don;t want any debris causing a short and blowing up the board...
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Post by: Andy on June 27, 2013, 03:38:15 pm
It should be fine, as long as there is actually continuity then it'll be ok. As Titsy says, check the board is clean before powering up.
Fault finding with all those smd would be a pain in the arse!
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Post by: Roadkill on June 27, 2013, 03:44:13 pm
No airline - just puff power - but, yes, I have made sure I've got as much crap out as possible.
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Post by: art b on June 27, 2013, 05:41:48 pm
looks serviceable,
no wonder they are a common fault ...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
those connections look designed to fail...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on June 27, 2013, 07:31:02 pm
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Post by: Roadkill on June 28, 2013, 08:25:03 am
Hmm.
Well that ain't great.
Put it all back together last night and started her up. No flashing light. Took her for a drive - got 50 yards up the road and the light started flashing - WTF ??
She's never put the light on when stone cold before and never while moving so I thought (hoped) it was maybe a throw-back from the ECU . . .
Cleared the error by doing the old trick of getting to speed and turning her off, getting to second-stage ignition and pausing before re-starting (all above 50mph)
Took her for a drive through town, stop-start-stop-start to warm her up, then up the A5 to get her really toasty.
Pulled into a lay-by. Turned her off . . . and on again - no flashy lights. Did it again. No flashy lights.
Drove back into town and pulled into a bus stop. Repeated again with no issues.
Get back home parked up. Turn off. Pause. Start up again. Still no flashy lights.
At this point I'm hopeful it was just the ECU complaining.
So.
This morning.
Goes out. Starts her up. No issues.
Drive 14 miles, through town, through the country roads, up the bypass and into Leighton Buzzard . . . . About 500 yards from work and the light starts flashing !!!
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(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Really.
Gets to work. Turn her off. Wait. Start her back up again (normally without doubt the light would be flashing) but no flashy light.
It's now gone from a very predicable, manageable fault to a totally erratic will-it-won't-it fault.
In short. About 10 times WORSE !!!
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Question is, is this a good sign. What I did obviously had some effect. Is it worth trying to re-do the soldering again, this time tidier or am I really grasping at straws.
The actuator comes off and apart in minutes so it's not a major big deal to have another look I suppose . . .
???
What do we reckon ?
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Post by: Roadkill on June 28, 2013, 08:50:14 am
I'm thinking that for £9, replacing the fuel filter will eliminate another possible fault . . unlikely but possible.
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Plus it hasn't been done in at least 55,000 miles . . . .
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Post by: Andy on June 28, 2013, 09:00:44 am
Never heard of that method for resetting the ECU. Disconnect the battery for half an hour and then let it re learn your driving.
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Post by: Incursus on June 28, 2013, 09:15:39 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Cleared the error by doing the old trick of getting to speed and turning her off, getting to second-stage ignition and pausing before re-starting (all above 50mph)
I think I can safely say WTF? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) I never heard that before..
Quoting: Andy
Disconnect the battery for half an hour and then let it re learn your driving.
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Then go find your radio code (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
And get another code read off Steve.
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Post by: Roadkill on June 28, 2013, 09:45:20 am
I never said re-set the ECU. I said clearing the error - which it does.
The guy in the thread I linked to did the same, too. Not a problem as long as it's not dark (ie. you need your headlights).
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Post by: art b on June 28, 2013, 10:01:42 am
ah intermittent electrical faults ....drive ya mad.. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)
get a secondhand unit to swap out ...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
247 spares interpart [daventry]
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Post by: Andy on June 28, 2013, 10:28:25 am
I still got to say I've never heard of something like that. That is beyond insane for resetting a code. Resetting the ECU via disconnecting the battery will do the same thing.
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Post by: Roadkill on June 28, 2013, 10:32:55 am
Unfortunately on my way to work in the rain I don't fancy pulling over, popping the bonnet, getting out my tool kit, disconnecting the battery . . . . . waiting half an hour, then reconnecting and starting only to find the fault immediately comes back.
Killing the engine at speed clears it (and gives me my Turbo back) EVERY time.
My way is quicker and I don't get wet or dirty. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
EDIT - I'm not saying this would clear every code - but it remedies this particular fault, short term and if that's enough for me to complete my journey then all well and good.
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Post by: Roadkill on June 29, 2013, 06:42:52 pm
Bought a new soldering iron and attacked the solder joins again. Got two looking good and tidy but the one on the board just would not take solder.
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I tried multiple times and scratched the terminal down so far it was almost level with the board but still wouldn't take the solder.
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Evenually found some "Leaded" solder that stuck to the terminal but f**k was it difficult to work with and would not flow. In the process of working it I broke the 4mm wire so it's now 3mm. Had to re-do one of the decent looking joins again . . . the two solders got mixed (and didn't like that) but in the end I'm 95% sure I got decent connections this time.
Problem is it didn't work. I tested it last night and it was going good but the light came on and hasn't really been off since . . .
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I re-read some other threads and have now checked the inter-cooler pipe, cleaned the Actuator connectors and MAF connectors, have cleaned the MAF itself and re-set the ECU by disconnecting the battery for an hour.
I've also replaced the fuel filter.
I drained the old filter and checked the contents . . . a bit of grit but no metal particles so the fuel pump should be good.
All of this and no change. The light is now on most of the time.
Total cost was £9 for the filter but I'm still thinking actuator.
Dunno.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on June 29, 2013, 10:45:38 pm
Does it drrive okay with the light on? Or is it in limp mode?
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Post by: Roadkill on June 30, 2013, 06:55:33 am
It's in limp mode (no turbo).
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Post by: Roadkill on July 01, 2013, 09:10:50 am
I've ordered a "used - but tested good" actuator off of eBay for £60 . . . I figure if it doesn't work I can flog it again and get my money back so it's a cheapie try-out.
Of course, if it doesn't work - I really am out of ideas.
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Post by: Incursus on July 01, 2013, 11:12:04 am
Quoting: Roadkill
I've ordered a "used - but tested good" actuator off of eBay for £60 . . . I figure if it doesn't work I can flog it again and get my money back so it's a cheapie try-out
Shame mine doesn't have the same really.
Quoting: Roadkill
Of course, if it doesn't work - I really am out of ideas.
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Post by: Roadkill on July 01, 2013, 12:40:08 pm
Not one person has suggested injectors with that fault code or I would consider it.
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Post by: Incursus on July 01, 2013, 01:46:36 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Not one person has suggested injectors with that fault code or I would consider it.
Yeah I know, it's just that the symptoms are so similar and I went through all the same fault finding activities you have before giving up and taking it to the garage.
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Post by: Roadkill on July 01, 2013, 03:01:21 pm
Where did you take it, out of interest ?
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Post by: Incursus on July 02, 2013, 06:44:27 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Where did you take it, out of interest ?
A.E.H. Inwards in LB . Nobby recommended them, they didn't mess me around and did me proud with the Mustang's MOT (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on July 02, 2013, 08:56:57 am
Well, I should get the replacement actuator today (hopefully) so that'll be the first thing.
Will go from there . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on July 02, 2013, 07:52:29 pm
Weeeeelllllllllllll . . . .
I did a couple more tests earlier . . . the ram to the turbo gate was pretty smooth in operation so I've never thought this was the issue.
That said I wanted to test it anyway.
A way of doing this (apparently) is to start the car and bring the revs up . . if the gate is getting stuck you should hear the actuator clicking as the worm gear inside is trying to open the gate.
(No clicking).
so i disconnect arm from actuator, bring up to 2500 revs and move the arm back and forth . . . I could clearly hear the turbo spinning so felt fairly safe to put the "new" actuator on.
Bolted it up in seconds (I could do it with my eyes closed, now), started her up and no lights.
Good so far.
Gun her up to 4,000 revs . . . still no light.
Take her for a long run. Pull in and shut her off when she's nice and hot. Re-start. Nothing.
Get diesel (I'm feeling lucky) . . still no lights on start-up.
Drive home, park up, shut off, start up. Nothing.
No lights and by now the EML has also turned itself off, too !!
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I *think* it's sorted.
I'm certainly hoping so as I've just put another 6 months tax on her . . . normally I'd go for a year but I'm not pushing my luck !!!
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Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2013, 09:47:16 am
O.K. so to summarise this last little issue . . .
Total time researching issue : 1.5 hours Total time testing/checking/repairing issue : 4.5 hours Total cost of repair parts : £75 (Actuator was £60 but I opted for next day delivery for £15) Misc : £9 for Fuel filter (much needed), £14 for Soldering Iron (an improvement on my old one).
It's been a headache but I can't complain.
On the plus side I've got a job in Ipswich on Friday and the mileage the Mondeo will earn me from that will pay for all the expenses.
And with a wipe over with thinners, some masking, a spray of primer left over from a previous job and a top-coat of satin black I've had sitting in my garage for years -
Ta-dah !!
I did both sides in the end as I just about had enough paint and the paint didn't quite match the original colour . . .
Given her age I haven't made much of a fuss. I gave it a quick bashing and T-Cut and it looks better. Pity it cracked the paint otherwise you (or I should say, "I") wouldn't notice it.
Also changed the Oil £20, Oil Filter £4 and Air Filter £4 last night, too . . . along with the recent fuel filter she's the most serviced she's ever been !!!!!!
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Have got the rear pads to do tonight then she's all up-to-date.
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Post by: Roadkill on July 17, 2013, 10:44:10 am
Well this one's been a battle but she passed 225,000 earlier today.
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I was considering replacing her with a 300C towards the end of the year but £6000 for a 7 year old 300C seems a bit silly. '08 Plate (new shape) Mondeo's are going for £3,500 and with my generally good experiences with Mondeo's to date I'd be daft not to get another.
Who knows, though . . this one might hang on a bit longer.
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Post by: Incursus on July 17, 2013, 10:56:36 am
Quoting: Roadkill
'08 Plate (new shape) Mondeo's are going for £3,500 and with my generally good experiences with Mondeo's to date I'd be daft not to get another.
Yeah, looking to get a new(er) shape nearer the end of the year/early next year, should have saved enough to pickup a 40k mile Titanium X by then...give or take.
Prices may drop slightly near the the end of the year as the new 2013 model should be out by then. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
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Post by: Andy on July 17, 2013, 10:59:14 am
Save up for the new face lift... It's actually really nice!
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Post by: Incursus on July 17, 2013, 11:05:15 am
Quoting: Andy
Save up for the new face lift... It's actually really nice!
Yeah... maybe in 3-4 years time when the next car starts to die.
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Post by: Roadkill on July 17, 2013, 12:09:39 pm
Quoting: Incursus
Prices may drop slightly near the the end of the year as the new 2013 model should be out by then.
Yeah, that's why I'm hoping my current one survives a little longer . . . . prices of the current new model will probably drop about 30% when the new one comes out.
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Post by: Incursus on July 24, 2013, 08:47:16 am
Mmm just read a few articles that suggest the New Mondeo release date has been pushed back to late next year (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on July 24, 2013, 12:05:58 pm
I don't think mine will hold on til then !
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Post by: Incursus on July 25, 2013, 10:54:56 am
Hmm got my eye on one but need to save another month...unless someone wants to give me £1k for the Mondeo (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on August 16, 2013, 09:35:56 am
Quoting: Incursus
Hmm got my eye on one but need to save another month.
Was rubbish didn't even bother asking for the keys (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Got another Mondy to look at this weekend and a wildcard to test drive this evening.. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Best I've been offered for the old Mondeo? £600 (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif) I paid just over £2k not even 2 years ago.
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Post by: Roadkill on August 16, 2013, 10:02:06 am
Quoting: Incursus
Best I've been offered for the old Mondeo? £600
I reckon you'll get more than that on eBay - I saw a '06 TDCi with over 200,000 miles up for a grand !
I reckon I could punt mine for £750-850 with a carefully written advert and some good pictures.
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Post by: Andy on August 16, 2013, 10:18:35 am
Depreciation is the biggest draw back with Furds! 10 a penny, sadly even if its well looked after it still won't hold with the market being flooded with others.
The positives you should spin are either the lack of the dreaded DPF and it having its DMF (if its had it done). My old diesel (wish I'd kept it now) would be a dream nowadays, no DMF, no DPF, no worry of the turbo dying, still did about 500 to a tank. There's a lot to be said for agricultural engineering!
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Post by: Incursus on August 16, 2013, 11:15:14 am
Quoting: Roadkill
I reckon I could punt mine for £750-850 with a carefully written advert and some good pictures
Mine is considerably more tatty than yours..though higher spec and runs perfectly.
Quoting: Roadkill
I reckon you'll get more than that on eBay
Yeah, even We Buy Any Car offered £500 not not much to loose giving it a punt on Ebay... might even try and "T-Cut" off the handprints that have been on there since I got it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
Quoting: Andy
Depreciation is the biggest draw back with Furds! 10 a penny, sadly even if its well looked after it still won't hold with the market being flooded with others.
Indeed hence the wildcard I'm looking at tonight, the Mondeo's will half in value in the 2 years I plan to have it where as this one will only lose about a 1/4...going on todays prices, ages etc. On the other hand the Fords are relatively cheap to maintain and really good cars.
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Post by: Incursus on August 19, 2013, 07:35:07 am
Still a Mondeo Man (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
59 plate Titanium x in storm grey 48K on the clock, should do me a couple of years.(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on August 21, 2013, 02:39:09 pm
You know it makes sense. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Andy on August 21, 2013, 04:40:29 pm
Wow! Nice! Git any pics? The Tit X models look the nuts!
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Post by: Incursus on August 21, 2013, 07:24:35 pm
Just got it home, bit dark for pics but will try and take some tomorrow.
All good so far though doesn't seem to play music over the bluetooth...maybe I'm just spoilt with Jags and Range Rovers (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Andy on August 21, 2013, 11:37:49 pm
Sadly the only draw back with the Bluetooth Ford unit, won't stream audio. Have you Etis'd it?
See if it has any nice options! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on August 22, 2013, 06:54:59 am
Quoting: Andy
Sadly the only draw back with the Bluetooth Ford unit, won't stream audio. Have you Etis'd it?
Yeah, looks like I could update the module but they're not cheap and I'm not that bothered, I can still use my old bluetooth->FM transmitter jobby for long journeys, to plumb in the Satnav & tunes.
Mostly listen to the radio on my commute..which is now DAB (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Yup Etis'd it but no surprises, my old Ghia was fairly high spec so the only new bits to go wrong are the adaptive headlights, curry warmers, bluetooth/voice control thingy and keyless start.
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Post by: Andy on August 22, 2013, 07:20:55 am
I will warn you, the Bluetooth/voice control for inputting phone numbers sucks balls.
You have to say the numbers and took me a bit to long to realise saying 'ohh' doesn't get you a zero. It can only take about 4 numbers at a time as well. Oh and some times she throws a strop and just ignores you, which is nice and rude.
*hits voice button*
me: Phone
*awkward pause*
her: COMMAND PLEASE!
Me: Phone
Her: COMMAND PLEASE!
Me: PHOOOONE!
Her: Radio.
Me: Cancel! Cancel, forget it!
Her: Command canceled.
Then we just sit in silence for the rest of the journey.
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Post by: Titsy on August 22, 2013, 07:44:45 am
Quoting: Incursus
Yeah, looks like I could update the module but they're not cheap and I'm not that bothered, I can still use my old bluetooth->FM transmitter jobby for long journeys, to plumb in the Satnav & tunes
It must have an aux input at least... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on August 22, 2013, 08:32:24 am
Seems to understand everything I've tried so far but I would never bother trying to read a phone number to it..
Doesn't seem to have a command to switch to DAB on FM/AM which seem like a bit of an over sight..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Though it's far less effort to move my thumb an inch (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif) The novelty will wear off soon enough... though "Climate" > "De-mist" is fairly dramatic... whoooosh!
Just disappointed "Kit!, super pursuit mode!" doesn't work... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on August 22, 2013, 08:52:32 am
The only thing I hate about the Titanium models is on the estates they have the horizontal chrome trim under the windows. On a pale coloured car it looks O.K but on a darker coloured one it's enough to stop me buying one - looks stuck-on and tacky !
Mine's still going for the mean time . . . I'm morbidly curious as to when and how she's gonna go . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on August 22, 2013, 08:57:00 am
Quoting: Titsy
It must have an aux input at least...
Yeah in the glovebox same as the old one.
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Post by: Incursus on August 22, 2013, 09:01:59 am
Quoting: Roadkill
The only thing I hate about the Titanium models is on the estates they have the horizontal chrome trim under the windows. On a pale coloured car it looks O.K but on a darker coloured one it's enough to stop me buying one - looks stuck-on and tacky !
Yeah not as bad as my old Ghia though that had bits of chrome just randomly dotted all over the place.
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Post by: Roadkill on August 22, 2013, 10:55:21 am
I'm after a black estate next so will be opting for another poverty spec just to avoid that trim piece.
There's a guy who's got a new-shape titanium estate in black near the local shop. First time I saw it I honestly thought he'd added that trim himself. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
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Post by: F Body on August 22, 2013, 01:13:29 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
There's a guy who's got a new-shape titanium estate in black near the local shop. First time I saw it I honestly thought he'd added that trim himself.
Like this (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Andy on August 22, 2013, 01:42:50 pm
I saw the Tit X Sport the other day, that I think does away with the silly chrome trim and ups the aggressive look with chin spoilers and ST style grills.
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Post by: Incursus on August 22, 2013, 05:26:17 pm
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Post by: F Body on August 23, 2013, 01:49:04 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
Ford always have unusal colours that no other manufacturer have thought of
You mean like undercoat Grey (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
and Clitoris Blue (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
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Post by: Andy on August 23, 2013, 02:20:25 pm
Martin, if your clitoris looks that shade of blue, you should get it seen to! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on August 23, 2013, 02:21:20 pm
Or maybe it's be "seen to" enough !?
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Post by: Andy on August 23, 2013, 02:27:35 pm
I'm expecting CP to chirp in with 'Blue waffle', but seeing as he hasn't....
DO NOT GOOGLE AT WORK... Or ever!
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Post by: F Body on August 23, 2013, 03:41:59 pm
Quoting: F Body
Clitoris Blue
Because every *unt has that colour (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: F Body on August 23, 2013, 03:44:37 pm
Quoting: Andy
I'm expecting CP to chirp in with 'Blue waffle', but seeing as he hasn't....
DO NOT GOOGLE AT WORK... Or ever!
Well if someone say's don't do something, your bound to do it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
I now really wish that I still didn't know what "Blue Waffle" is, but how the hell did it get called Blue Waffle (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 24, 2013, 12:42:57 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/ontopic.gif)
You don't have me in here with the inappropriate discussions, no sir, I keep it all sensible.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/smirk.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on August 27, 2013, 12:21:54 pm
Well nearly 300 miles put on it now.
The engine is certainly more refined though overall MPG seems to be about the same, a little better around town but so far not quite as good on the motorway.. saying that the A/C's been on for a good chunk of those journeys so the jury is still out.
~50mpg currently 50/50 town/motorway & A-roads.
No really bad comments so far though the steering wheel is a degree or two off center and something strange and slimey/waxy has been split in the boot, covering the entire boot liner... you can't see it but can feel it, tried Vanish carpet shampoo/stain remover but that didn't shift it.. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Andy on August 27, 2013, 12:48:57 pm
Does yours have electric steering? That's a fun thing to play with if you ever get bored.
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Post by: Incursus on August 27, 2013, 01:23:43 pm
Quoting: Andy
Does yours have electric steering?
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Has a steering column going through the floor..so not drive by wire, if that is what you mean.
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Post by: Andy on August 27, 2013, 01:44:19 pm
From 2008 onwards Ford fitted electronic assistance steering, it's a regular steering setup but you can adjust the level of feedback and how easy it is to turn the wheel either at speed or in town. Mine has three setting, Comfort Sport and Normal. If you drive up the motorway you really notice the assist kicking in and hindering much wheel movement in sport mode, but stop and change into comfort and it moves a lot more freely about the place.
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Post by: Incursus on August 27, 2013, 01:52:57 pm
Nope pretty sure it doesn't have that..I've certainly not found a setting or button.
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Post by: Andy on August 27, 2013, 02:10:48 pm
Think it's on the stalk control (talking from a focus point of view) where on the scroll menu you can go into Settings and the. It has steering. If its not there then it's not fitted.
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Post by: Incursus on August 27, 2013, 08:08:59 pm
Not fitted then.
Did notice the other night my headlights go cross-eyed when they first switch on..kinda cool..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/crazy.gif)
The corner lights are surprisingly useful on dark country roads as well (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
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Post by: F Body on September 05, 2013, 10:54:23 am
Well you Mondeo boys had better start saving for a 2nd hand Vignale (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on September 05, 2013, 01:27:00 pm
My Mondeo's a work horse. Alloy wheels and lots of unnecessary options are simply NOT an - err - option.
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Post by: F Body on September 05, 2013, 05:07:23 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
The only thing I hate about the Titanium models is on the estates they have the horizontal chrome trim under the windows. On a pale coloured car it looks O.K but on a darker coloured one it's enough to stop me buying one - looks stuck-on and tacky !
Well I never parked next to a 63 Reg Fockus at the Doctors Surgery tonight, see anything familiar (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sick.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on October 10, 2013, 10:31:31 pm
She blitzed the 230,000 mile barrier earlier today.
No issues to note over the last 5,000 miles.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on October 11, 2013, 06:40:03 am
Quoting: Roadkill
She blitzed the 230,000 mile barrier earlier today.
No issues to note over the last 5,000 miles.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on October 11, 2013, 09:27:17 am
To be honest there is a list of minor issues that will start acting like nails in her coffin . . . nothing major at the moment but any one (or any combination) could effectively end her.
i) The clutch / gearbox is noisy sometimes on start up (It's occasional and goes away quickly). Been like it off-and-on for nearly a year so - ?
ii) The brakes squeal once they're HOT. I've had them apart and can't see any issues. They're well copper-slipped and the pads have plenty of life, discs are good. They work absolutely fine and she stops straight as a die. I will have another look soon as she's due new rear tyres.
iii) If you down-shift (and effectively engine brake) there's a sharp and definite squeak. This has been present for the last 20,000 miles and rarely occurs as I rarely drive her that hard . . . I've read that it's the clutch slave cylinder seal that's failed but after this long it should've failed completely a long time ago.
iv) The Mechanism to release the tailgate doesn't always work when it's hot and the sun has been on the back of the car - this has baffled me but entering winter it's not likely to be a problem again any time soon.
v) I know the N/S rear trailing arm bush is knackered. It should fail the MoT in December on that.
vi) It will need 2 rear tyres for the MoT in December. They're fine now but won't be with another 5,000 miles on them.
vii) She smokes on start up. Always has a little but month-by-month it seems to get a little worse (could be me imagining it as she barely looses any oil between services).
viii) There's a recent new noise that sounds like a wheel bearing on it's way out but it's so quiet it's hard to pin-point. It sounds like it's coming from the front but it's really so quiet that you only hear it going less than 20mph - even then - occasionally.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
We'll see.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on October 11, 2013, 12:27:53 pm
Will it's certainly doing better than my old one, only got to 140,000 and needed the injectors doing. Though once done it drove perfectly.
No complaints on the new one but its only done 51k.
Cruises very nicely and handles very well for such a big car.
Only downside so far is the price of new tyres is a fair bit more but that's 18" wheels for you, also can't play music over the Bluetooth (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif) though finding Teamrock radio sorted that out nicely (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on December 03, 2013, 12:45:28 pm
THE GOOD NEWS . . .
I'm glad I only opted for 6 months tax in May !
THE BAD NEWS . . .
She's terminal. Multiple failures . . . May not even last the week.
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Post by: Andy on December 03, 2013, 12:51:56 pm
Which are?
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Post by: Incursus on December 03, 2013, 12:54:34 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
She's terminal. Multiple failures . . . May not even last the week.
Doh! Best put a new one on your letter to Santa (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on December 03, 2013, 01:08:28 pm
So, last night I went to leave work . . . turned the key to be confronted by a high-speed grinding noise (think of a dremel kind of noise).
O.K, so the starter motor is on it's way out . . .
Likely cause ? Failing DMF, moving about, sheering the tops of the rivets off and the swarf caused is attracted to the magnet in the starter.
There's been gradual, increasing noises from the clutch/flywheel area for well over a year . . It's gotten particularly worse over the last 4 months so I've known this was coming . . . so much so that I hadn't actually brimmed the tank in that time.
So -
Required immediately :
DMF & Clutch kit £218 + £250 for fitting Re-con Stater £50 + £40 for fitting
Total : £558
But the MoT is required in two weeks so . .
Required on or before the 18/12/13 :
Trailing arm bushes £32 + £80 for fitting Rear brake pads (already bought) - Can fit myself MoT test cost £40
I also have a wheel bearing on its way out but I'm struggling to pin point which one . . . . fronts are cheaper, but with more labour so it's gonna be around £55-£70 parts and labour, too.
Total : £207-£222
The tax is due at the end of December = £96 (for 6 months)
Also two of the tyres, even IF they pass the MoT will need replacing very soon and another one has a puncture/slow leak that needs repair . . . so add another £100 before the end of February . . .
All in -
£861 - £876 for her to survive the month . . . with another £100 coming very shortly after . . . and that's assuming nothing more shows up on the MoT !!!
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Post by: Incursus on December 03, 2013, 01:26:49 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
£861 - £876 for her to survive the month .
More that the cars worth and who knows what else is just round the corner..on the other hand, better the devil you know..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on December 03, 2013, 01:39:22 pm
Sammy's Focus has been sitting there doing nothing for just under a year, now . . . so I figure, chuck some tax on for £123 and use that.
It's done zero miles since the last MoT (which is due in January)
I'm going to carry on using the Mondeo for a couple of days, though - there's still a good £25 of diesel in her !
I'll probably stick her on eBay this week, though. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on December 03, 2013, 01:47:03 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Sammy's Focus has been sitting there doing nothing for just under a year, now . . . so I figure, chuck some tax on for £123 and use that.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on December 03, 2013, 02:04:52 pm
Quoting: Incursus
More that the cars worth and who knows what else is just round the corner.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)
My Pop's in a similar situation with his '99 1.8 Petrol Mondeo, the shocks have both gone at the front, meaning new shocks are needed and getting both struts out (AGAIN - as one spring had already broken a while ago), the windscreen has a massive crack in it, the cabin-fan only works on the windscreen demist-setting, the central locking is temperamental, the rear door handles stick, it needs at least one, possibly two new front tyres, the tax AND MOT are due in January and it generally drives like crap. Also not taking into account what else it will fail the MOT on.
The car is only worth £250/300 maximum and only then if it had a full MOT, tax etc.
It's now one of those cars where the MOT and Tax is worth more than the car.
He has to do quite a lot of miles, so I just said we will go and get another car for £500 / 1k, preferably this time, not a Ford.
You have done quite well with this one, but I have totally lost respect for them. In the family we have owned, 3 Mondeo's, 3 Fiesta's and a Ka, all of which have been pretty terrible and for anyone interested, I can list all of the faults.
I fully appreciate that sometimes it is not so much the car that is the problem, but instead, the way it has been treated by the previous-owner, so I do not judge a brand that quickly. However, after 7 Fords, all with quite a few issues, you can clearly tell they are built to a budget, which is a shame as the Engines are not too bad. The biggest disappointment was the '58 Fiesta that we spent 6k on. Nope. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/nono.gif)
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/ranton.gif)
:offtopic:
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Post by: Roadkill on December 03, 2013, 02:46:58 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Sammy's Focus has been sitting there doing nothing for just under a year, now . . . so I figure, chuck some tax on for £123 and use that.
(this is also code for "I'll gain back a car parking space for potential, future use" )
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)
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Post by: art b on December 03, 2013, 10:54:49 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
The biggest disappointment was the '58 Fiesta that we spent 6k on. Nope.
you ford boys, crack me up....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
I saw that on VZi. Funny ad, but couldn't believe that someone paid 1k for... THAT!
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/jaw.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on December 04, 2013, 02:37:09 pm
Speaking of eBay . . . The Mondeo just went on !
Yes, there's a few little white lies in there, but nothing about the condition of the car. I lied my a$$ off about getting a company car, though, simply as I, without fail, get stupid offers of P/X and figured saying I've got a new car on the way would stop this.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on December 04, 2013, 04:35:24 pm
A well written, concise ad sir (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/thumbsup.gif)
Much better than how most are written, with little detail about the car or in size 10000billion font. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
P.S. Fancy a PX? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on December 04, 2013, 04:40:36 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
Fancy a PX?
Yeah, sure, how about a handful of £10 notes . . . the rest in cash. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: F Body on December 04, 2013, 06:15:19 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Recent full set of new Ford wheel trims
How much for the wheel trims (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: art b on December 04, 2013, 10:17:11 pm
that was a quick 3 yrs....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on December 05, 2013, 12:19:43 am
Well, it's 2 years, 10 months ...... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on December 06, 2013, 02:30:33 pm
I think the DMF has really gone now . . it seemed like the starter wouldn't engage on Wednesday night when I left work so I had to bump-start her to drive her home . . .
I'm currently using Sammy's Focus but will do a little investigating this weekend to see if I can improve the Mondeo's starting . . . if only to make it worth a few more ££ !
I've just had a look for replacements but don't think I'll bother until at least the spring . . assuming the Focus holds up that long. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
I do already miss the big central arm rest, the heated front screen, the cruise control and the nice flat, low bumper and tow bar which I used to put my work boots on when I pull up to site.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
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Post by: Andy on December 06, 2013, 04:48:50 pm
Aww man :( sad to see a faithful steed die!
It's a real shame there isn't a solid flywheel replacement. DMFs, DPFs are going to be the things that kill off old faithful diesel cars of the future. Should've stuck with my old diesel Mondy, no ECU, no DMF, no DPF. Nice old fashion turbo unit.
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Post by: Roadkill on December 06, 2013, 05:02:27 pm
Quoting: Andy
It's a real shame there isn't a solid flywheel replacement
There is. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
O.K, she's still a potential ticking timebomb (isn't every car ?) but by investing just over an hour removing the starter, cleaning it, carefully oiling it and then replacing it - Hey presto ! She starts on the button, without hesitation.
I checked the starters teeth - they actually look really good considering . . . I also tried to force movement on the flywheel but I couldn't feel any.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
The next stage, I reckon, will be to thoroughly abuse her tomorrow as I have a LOAD of bricks and concrete that'll need taking to the tip . . . If she survives that I think it's worth trying to MoT her a week early (before the auction ends) and go from there.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rock.gif)
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Post by: art b on December 07, 2013, 08:54:10 pm
meh ....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif) ive already bid a £1
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Post by: Cunning Plan on December 09, 2013, 09:34:24 am
Quoting: Roadkill
The next stage, I reckon, will be to thoroughly abuse her tomorrow as I have a LOAD of bricks and concrete that'll need taking to the tip . . .
I suppose, as she's still going I should try to book her in for an MoT to see what happens . . . then, based on the outcome, decide whether to pull the auction or not.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on December 09, 2013, 02:49:30 pm
Here's a few pics to keep CP happy . . .
The starter - after a good clean out . . took quite a bit of working back-and-forth to get it all moving again . . .
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Post by: art b on December 10, 2013, 11:23:07 am
nice 3d graphic,(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif) its usually bits of rubber or bits of springs that come out of the dmf..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
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Post by: art b on December 10, 2013, 11:24:50 am
i used to drive a 1.8 td escort and it never needed a dmf...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on December 10, 2013, 12:37:38 pm
Quoting: art b
i used to drive a 1.8 td escort and it never needed a dmf...
Never needed or didn't have a DMF? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: art b on December 10, 2013, 01:03:06 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
Never needed or didn't have a DMF?
both ...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
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Post by: Andy on December 10, 2013, 02:59:56 pm
Same here, only the TDCi Mondies had them, before they ran solid flywheels.
Apparently they make the Diesel engine smoother a more passenger friendly regards vibrations from the engine.
I never really noticed much difference and quite often had mine mistaken for a petrol when in it. However outside it sounded like a good old tractor!
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Post by: Roadkill on December 12, 2013, 09:31:04 pm
Interesting . . . . She took yet more concrete-carrying abuse today before going in for an MoT.
She failed on rear tyres (as suspected), trailing arm and a blow in the back box.
I've already paid the money for the MoT . . . assuming I bodge the back box with a bandage, I'm looking at £90 for tyres plus £40 for the arm (can easily fit that myself).
I'd originally assumed it was one of the main trailing arm bushes but it turns out its the (estate only) lower arm which is an easy fix - bonus !
So £130 to get it through the MoT . . . . . ignoring the DMF - which is noisy - but still behaving fine . . .
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on December 12, 2013, 09:43:07 pm
Required immediately :
DMF & Clutch kit £218 + £250 for fitting - Ignore that for now Re-con Stater £50 + £40 for fitting - Removed and Cleaned = £0
Total : £0
Required on or before the 18/12/13 :
Trailing arm bushes £32 + £80 for fitting - £40 for the part, I can fit Rear brake pads (already bought) - Will get garage to fit £30 (need special tool) MoT test cost £40 - Already Paid
I also have a wheel bearing on its way out but I'm struggling to pin point which oneNo mention of this in the MoT. . . . fronts are cheaper, but with more labour so it's gonna be around £55-£70 parts and labour, too.
Total : £70
The tax is due at the end of December = £96 (for 6 months)
Also two of the tyres, even IF they pass the MoT will need replacing very soon and another one has a puncture/slow leak that needs repair . . . so add another £100before the end of February . . . For the MoT
It was nearly £1000 a week ago . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) . . It all depends on how long that DMF lasts . . . .
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Post by: Andy on December 13, 2013, 12:06:07 am
Better the Devil you know and all that jazz...
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Post by: Incursus on December 13, 2013, 08:52:54 am
Quoting: Roadkill
Will get garage to fit £30 (need special tool)
What special tool? I did mine on the MK3 Mondeo with a pair of long nose pliers...unless they're different on the Estate? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on December 13, 2013, 09:03:41 am
Quoting: Incursus
Quoting: Roadkill Will get garage to fit £30 (need special tool)
What special tool? I did mine on the MK3 Mondeo with a pair of long nose pliers...unless they're different on the Estate?
Or you could use an old silicone gun (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on December 13, 2013, 02:20:58 pm
Quoting: Incursus
unless they're different on the Estate?
They are, actually. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
I tried with long nose pliers but they wouldn't turn in . . . I tried putting pressure on but apparently it's common for them not to wind back without major effort (or special tool).
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Post by: Incursus on December 13, 2013, 02:31:40 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: Incursus unless they're different on the Estate?
They are, actually.
Yeah you have to turn them in a different direction..
Quoting: Roadkill
I tried putting pressure on but apparently it's common for them not to wind back without major effort (or special tool).
I did have to give one side a technical tap with a hammer before it would catch, though for the sake of £30 it was a bit of a bugger...well one side was.
P.S they take fecking ages to wind in.
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Post by: Roadkill on December 13, 2013, 04:26:53 pm
Quoting: Incursus
Yeah you have to turn them in a different direction..
Not just that, the calipers are different (in fact the set-up on the estates at the rear is all different, it seems).
I tried giving it a hefty blow with a hammer - nothing.
I tried turning it both C/W and A/C/W constantly for a few minutes each. Nothing.
After that I got bored. I'll pay somebody else to do it . . . Can't be ar$ed to have another look . . especially not when I'm restricted to weekends . . .
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Post by: Roadkill on December 19, 2013, 12:47:35 pm
Well, she's MoT'ed again - no advisers.
December's been the most expensive month to date . . . in fact she's cost more this month than she has in the average 12-month period previously ! :
Brake Pads £16 (inc. del) Trailing Sub Arm £40 (inc. del) MoT £40 2 x Tyres £90 Puncture £15 Bulb (from stock) £0 Exhaust repair (P40 from stock) £0 Total Labour £50
Total £251 assuming the DMF don't fail tomorrow. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on December 19, 2013, 04:22:07 pm
Not bad, anymore than that and I think you would have been right to sell or scrap it and bought something else.
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Post by: Roadkill on January 08, 2014, 10:19:27 am
Quoting: Roadkill
assuming the DMF don't fail tomorrow.
Weeeellll . . . .
The starter is making a racket again and taking a couple of go's to get started meaning that either it's picked up more existing crap floating around in the bell housing OR it's picked up new crap from the flywheel breaking down.
Either way it'll become unusable within a day or two again . . . .
Repairs will be in the region of £550 which is still cheaper than a new car and when I got the car it was £800-£1000 below market value at the time so I shouldn't complain.
My long-term plan will be to get the next shape Mondeo but I'm waiting for the "new" shape to come out so it devalues the current one.
Buying a new replacement this year though is simply out of the question . . . I've got too many other things planned !!
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Post by: Andy on January 08, 2014, 10:27:43 am
Quoting: Roadkill
My long-term plan will be to get the next shape Mondeo but I'm waiting for the "new" shape to come out so it devalues the current one.
Just bare in mind the new diesels are a lot more grief than the Mk2 or Mk3 ones.
If you thought DMF was bad, try knackered DPFs or ones that are blocked. Now by the new MOT standard, if it had a DPF fitted, it has to have one, so you can't bypass them.
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Post by: Incursus on January 08, 2014, 11:07:57 am
Quoting: Roadkill
My long-term plan will be to get the next shape Mondeo but I'm waiting for the "new" shape to come out so it devalues the current one.
Should be out end of this year/early next year.
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Post by: Roadkill on January 20, 2014, 10:52:52 am
After actually having to scrape ice of Sammy's Focus this morning (arrgh, old cars !) I decided to buy the Solid flywheel conversion, clutch, slave cylinder and new starter for the Mondeo.
I figure it's the cheapest option, long term, as the Focus is costing me nearly twice as much to run as my Mondeo - especially on motorway runs.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
So, £225 for the flywheel and clutch and £57 for the starter . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
I'll wait til they get here and then worry about how much it is to fit them. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
On the plus side she'll drive like a new car again. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
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Post by: Incursus on January 20, 2014, 12:49:43 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
After actually having to scrape ice of Sammy's Focus this morning (arrgh, old cars !)
Not just old cars, I had to scrape the ice off Katie's 6 month old Mini this morning as the battery in the Mondeo went kaput..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif) Heated windscreens fortehwin!!1
Ahh well £50 for a new battery and 45 minutes of knuckle scraping to get the battery swapped (have to remove a buttload of plastic covers and the air box..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)) and jobs a goodun...even found the radio code (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Quoting: Roadkill
On the plus side she'll drive like a new car again.
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Post by: Andy on January 20, 2014, 03:14:39 pm
I absolutely love hearing people complaining about having to scrape ice off their screen. As I sit, in my 'Climate' spec Focus, watching the heated screen and air con quickly deforest and clear my screen and mirrors!
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Post by: Incursus on January 20, 2014, 03:35:23 pm
Quoting: Andy
I absolutely love hearing people complaining about having to scrape ice off their screen. As I sit, in my 'Climate' spec Focus, watching the heated screen and air con quickly deforest and clear my screen and mirrors
Indeed and the geek in me still likes to use the voice command "Auto defrost on!"...even though it's only one button press.. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/lol.gif)
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Post by: art b on January 26, 2014, 10:54:40 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
I decided to buy the Solid flywheel conversion, clutch, slave cylinder and new starter for the Mondeo.
should be interesting to see how much difference there is when fitted .(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
.i suspect not much ..
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Post by: Roadkill on January 30, 2014, 10:43:19 am
Quoting: art b
should be interesting to see how much difference there is when fitted .
I'll find out later - she's in the garage having the new flywheel, clutch and starter fitted.
There's a lot of talk about the solid flywheels chewing up the gearboxes due to the "shock loads" . . . but, to be honest, I drive her pretty gently anyway so I'm not too concerned.
On top of that I only need her to survive until next February and the parts are all within warranty up until then.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Looking forward to driving her again, TBH. The Focus has been fine but lacks the refinements of the Mondeo !
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Post by: Roadkill on January 31, 2014, 12:51:38 pm
Well, reports so far regarding the solid-mass flywheel are pretty good.
Start up is no different . . . low-speed driving isn't noticeably different . . . booting it is where you notice it - a little less refined but it's certainly more fun !!!
The only downside so far is when you turn the engine off . . . you get that old-skool diesel "chudder-chudder" which the DMF hid nicely.
I've also got a vibration at 1600-1800 revs when accelerating hard (but that could be the engine cover as I know one of the clips don't line up properly - I'll check it out this w/e).
Not noticed any "pull" on the drive-train but as I say, I generally drive her pretty gently.
On the plus side I also got the power steering fluid replaced for free !!
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Post by: Roadkill on March 10, 2014, 04:47:05 pm
Over a month-on with a solid mass flywheel and it's going O.K* . . . Idle is actually smoother, I noticed recently, with the SMF . . . which is a little bonus . . .
Now for the * : However - She's developed a little issue recently . . .
About a week ago I ran her about 20 miles into the reserve (ie. passed 0 miles in the tank) and after that I noticed a definite mis-fire.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Fair enough, silly me. So I thought blocked injector(s) caused by rubbish from the tank . . . add to that the fact that I haven't run any injector cleaner in her for over 6 months (I used to do this every 2 months or so) - it all pointed to injectors.
So I put in some injector cleaner in and a splash of diesel (to keep the mix ratio pretty strong) . . . 100 miles later and no improvement . . . worse in fact.
Bugger.
Fooked injectors ?
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So I set out this morning . . . now, she's been a bit smokey recently, but today the smoke has turned to a smoke-screen at times with thick clouds of the stuff pumping out the back . . .
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
So I check the "MPG" setting and it's showing 2mpg less than normal . . .
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Surely if she's mis-firing because of a blockage that'd be using LESS fuel . . . ?
So I guess she's over-fueling . . . . meaning the ECU-thingy is over-compensating for too much air.
So there's a leak . . .
Ta-dah !
The pipe just south of the EGR valve has gone . . err . . . south.
Ford want £70+ for a replacement but I've managed to find an "as OEM" one on ebay for £18.50 with free P&P.
I'll wrap it up in gaffer tape tonight to try and limp through the next day or so.
Could've been worse . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
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Post by: Titsy on March 10, 2014, 05:49:29 pm
That's what Chris had on his last one when he was driving it away... It put out a hell of a smoke screen on the motorway so we took it straight back to the dealer and they changed out the pipe there and then.
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Post by: Incursus on March 10, 2014, 06:39:10 pm
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/yup.gif)
went again a few months before I replaced the car..
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Post by: Titsy on March 10, 2014, 10:48:38 pm
I'm guessing it's a weak point as the one they put on was off of another car on the lot, so would already be aged.
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Post by: Roadkill on March 11, 2014, 11:42:37 am
The old one appears to be original so it's done pretty good.
The new one from eBay should be here Thursday but I won't have time to fit it until the weekend so I made a quick "repair" last night.
It's holding so far . . . . I'm keeping the revs below 2,000 which isn't a major problem as that's how I *tend* to drive her anyway.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on March 11, 2014, 08:43:29 pm
Good logical mechanical knowledge to find and repair bodge the issue (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/clap3.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on April 25, 2014, 09:00:46 am
She passed the 240,000 mark a few days ago . . . . I'm hoping that the Quarter-million mark will happen in July/August so I can coincide it with her yearly service !
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Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2014, 09:27:35 am
She passed 245,000 last week . . now nudging 246,000 miles today . . .
I'm at the end of my current project tomorrow / Saturday so have booked a couple of days off for myself and the Mondeo to recover next week. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
She's due a service this month so I'm gonna get her cleaned on Monday, then do the service Tuesday / Wednesday when I'm off.
She needs another two hub caps, too. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/ebayanim.gif)
No issues to report except I've had a "noise" that sounds like a wheel bearing for the last 7 months . . . It's not a wheel bearing as it passed the MoT and I've recently jacked her up to re-check the bearings.
It's road-speed dependent, not engine rev dependent, so the only other thing I can think of is maybe a worn driveshaft ??
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(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
I may take her to the garage and let someone have a look next week, too . . .
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Post by: Cunning Plan on July 03, 2014, 10:21:40 am
Quoting: Roadkill
No issues to report except I've had a "noise" that sounds like a wheel bearing for the last 7 months . . . It's not a wheel bearing as it passed the MoT and I've recently jacked her up to re-check the bearings.
It's road-speed dependent, not engine rev dependent, so the only other thing I can think of is maybe a worn driveshaft ??
My old Mondeo only used to make a 'bearing-like' noise on this one section of road around one particular corner, everywhere else it was okay. I didn't find out what it was and I just drove it as it was.
I think driveshafts are a good possibility, although it could still the wheel bearing with the weight on it at a certain angle and speed, it just maybe only slightly worn and not worn enough to show when you test it (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on July 03, 2014, 11:47:39 am
It was initially only present on long bends (like the southbound entry of the M1 at J9 near flamsted) . . but now it's in a straight line after 30-40mph, too . . .
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Post by: Roadkill on July 28, 2014, 02:04:33 pm
Note.
Oil changed at 247,550 miles on 27/07/14
That is all.
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Post by: Roadkill on August 05, 2014, 09:36:14 am
I got a record 689 miles out of the last tank (after the oil change) !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
. . And it was far from an ideal example . . . probably barely half the mileage was "longer" journeys (35-odd mile trips to Hatfield) . . . . the rest being made up of 3-mile runs to the town centre or 14-mile trips to work.
Admittedly, I was very low on diesel when I filled up but I tend to average 620-650 per tank . . . and that's normally made up of longer journeys.
The service has nearly paid for itself ! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on August 14, 2014, 08:49:00 am
It's with a heavy heart that I must report that I believe my Mondeo is critically ill.
I've had a "noise" since before her MoT, last December, but only in the last couple of months has it been loud enough to work out roughly where it was coming from.
It seems to be the front nearside so I hoped wheel bearing, although it didn't sound quite like one . . . It wasn't, I checked and it was fine.
Maybe drive shaft, then ?
The drive shaft does have a bearing, apparently, but this is on the other side . . . I took her to the garage yesterday and after a test drive and a few tests, the verdict was gearbox.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
I also have a buggered rear shock, too (nothing major in itself).
A unknown secondhand gearbox will be around £100, labour at least £300.
Shocks will be £50, labour around £80.
Tax and MoT run out at the end of December.
She passed 249,000 miles yesterday.
I think the plan will be to re-new my AA membership and try to get her to December.
Maybe Santa will buy me something nice for Christmas. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 14, 2014, 12:01:06 pm
The Mondeo I had, the bearing from the gearbox to the driveshaft was worn as well. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)
However, mine was only 160k.. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/confused.gif)
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Post by: art b on August 16, 2014, 09:40:47 am
i did hear that if you get a mondy...up to 250k..
Fruad will give you a brand new one ...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on August 26, 2014, 03:12:31 pm
I'm hoping she gets us back to the U.K..... The gearbox is getting pretty noisy .....
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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 26, 2014, 07:43:10 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
I'm hoping she gets us back to the U.K
Where are you good buddy? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Titsy on August 27, 2014, 11:05:55 am
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Post by: Cunning Plan on August 31, 2014, 02:44:44 pm
I had no idea you could get a Ford that high in miles! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on September 01, 2014, 09:06:33 am
Interesting.
I've had a noise which is almost certainly the gearbox for a while, now . . .
But I've also had a "slight" blow in the exhaust . . . and a loud turbo-wizz noise and banging from the rear of the car.
Meh, it's dying, I thought but noticed, while rocking the car to check the water level in Belgium last week that there was a light metallic knocking noise.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Long story short, I had a look yesterday and it turns out that the "slight" blow is actually a completely severed pipe, just forward of the flexi.
Good news is that the part is £23 including postage and that this is the cause of the knocking noises from the rear and likely to be the cause of the turbo noise, too.
I was going to bodge it but figured with the time, hassle and effort, I may as well stump up and buy the new bit of pipe.
It should be coming from eBay this week so fingers crossed It's just the gearbox issue I'm left with.
The original diagnosis of the rear shocks causing the noise at the rear, I think, isn't the case . . . I reckon it's been like that for years and it's never caused any issue but we'll see.
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Post by: Andy on September 01, 2014, 09:31:58 am
Might be worth a drain and refill of gearbox oil just for the sake of it?
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Post by: Roadkill on September 01, 2014, 09:43:23 am
We checked the oil . . it's to the brim and looks pretty good.
It sounds like there's none in it at all . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: ianjpage on September 09, 2014, 01:36:07 am
Take it you sorted the exhaust / bumper out?
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Post by: Roadkill on September 09, 2014, 08:21:31 am
Yeah . . Kind of.
I fitted the new flexi-section . . it was a cheap pattern-part so fitted great at one end but crap the other . . . There's a little blow but not enough to bother me . . .
I think it was the new section that caused the failure on the obviously weakened bit at the back.
For those who didn't see on FB, on Saturday night while driving home the rear box broke off, fell and managed to jam into the block-paved road and rip-off most of the back bumper !!
Thankfully the outer skin is plastic, so I managed to hammer (and kick) it about 90% back into shape . . . There's a few cracks in the paint, now, too.
So now the exhaust ends just behind the rear wheels and, without the last hanger, rattles on the rear axle like a muthaf*cka !
I can't justify further expense or time at the moment so temporarily wrapped rubber sheet over the axle to deaden the noise.
I run her to Liverpool yesterday and it's sounding like the rubber needs replacing already !
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
The back box is only £35 or so but it looks like you have to cut the old pipe off and sleeve the new section further back (as the original rear section is half the length of the car).
I really don't have the time at the moment so it's gonna have to wait.
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Post by: ianjpage on September 09, 2014, 11:25:31 pm
Ah not ideal then.....
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Post by: Roadkill on October 20, 2014, 09:03:18 am
I've still not fitted a new back box . . . the back, severed pipe, is rattling around a lot but I have the stereo up pretty loud, anyway to hide the ever increasing noise from the gearbox !!!
I've put just over a thousand mile on the spare so far . . . (getting my money's worth) . . I'm kinda expecting the gearbox to blow up any day so am reluctant to spend too much money !!
She's juddering a tiny bit under light-to-medium acceleration . . . this happens fairly periodically so I've picked up some injector cleaner (£3) which resolves this.
She passed the 255,000 mile-point on Friday . . I'm not sure how much further the gearbox will hold out . . . I'm hoping December (when the tax and MoT run out) at least but . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
On the plus side, with all the runs up to Liverpool I've been doing recently she's been achieving some epic MPG - especially for an old girl.
. . It must be the skinny tyre on the front !!! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
She's filthy and looking really sorry for herself, now, but she's still going . . . Currently loaded up with over 1/4 tonne of site tools in the boot (which I bought back from Liverpool on Thursday and are going to Dagenham today) . . . Who knows . . . she may see 2015 yet.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 20, 2014, 10:45:01 am
Quoting: Roadkill
achieving some epic MPG
That really is epic for a big estate car! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
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Quoting: Roadkill
Who knows . . .
Hopefully, as it is been an interesting read for what should be the definition of a daily driver.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 20, 2014, 10:49:06 am
Quoting: Roadkill
I had a blow-out last week . . . .
Are you missing hub-caps or is that just where you have taking it off to get the wheel off? I ask as I have a set of 15" official Ford trims from my old Mondeo, although your wheels are probably 16". (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on October 20, 2014, 11:53:23 am
Quoting: Cunning Plan
Are you missing hub-caps
I'm missing 2 out of 4 . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Quoting: Cunning Plan
although your wheels are probably 16"
Yeah, they are. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/down.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on October 21, 2014, 09:02:18 am
In - what can only be called a guilt trip - I stumped up and paid for a new back box, hanger and two new genuine ford wheel covers last night.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Once I've cleared the boot out of crap and can get the wheel (with the flat tyre on it) out I'll get a new tyre fitted, too.
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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 21, 2014, 03:35:57 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
I stumped up and paid for a new back box, hanger and two new genuine ford wheel covers last night.
I think someone is confident that it will pass another MOT... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
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Post by: art b on October 22, 2014, 12:41:41 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
I think someone is confident that it will pass another MOT...
or selling ...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
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Post by: art b on October 22, 2014, 05:21:44 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
I had a blow-out last week . . . .
meh cll that a blow out....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
i had this last week ...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/beavisnbutthead.gif)
i was doing 55 on the a5 and just felt a slight vibe on the front of the car...
i was quite surprised as this tyre was on the back..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)
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Post by: Roadkill on October 23, 2014, 03:56:33 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
I think someone is confident that it will pass another MOT...
I have little doubt it would pass . . . The gearbox issue isn't a MoT failure, but would still mark the end of the line.
Quoting: art b
or selling ...
I ALWAYS keep that option open . . . As when the DMF went, I put it up on eBay straight away before eventually deciding to keep her going.
Art, never seen a side wall go like that before . . . you're lucky not to have f*cked up the rim . . .
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Post by: art b on October 23, 2014, 04:19:26 pm
Quoting: Roadkill
Art, never seen a side wall go like that before . . . you're lucky not to have f*cked up the rim . . .
i was surprised ... it was a michelin tyre and the inner wall was perfect ...(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
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Post by: Cunning Plan on October 23, 2014, 07:19:58 pm
Under-inflated?
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Post by: art b on October 23, 2014, 07:32:04 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
Under-inflated?
id imagine.... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
as it has a fookin great hole in it....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Title: I'm a MONDEO MAN, now !!!
Post by: art b on October 23, 2014, 07:32:34 pm
Quoting: Cunning Plan
Under-inflated?
only at the bottom....(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: I'm a MONDEO MAN, now !!!
Post by: Cunning Plan on October 24, 2014, 07:26:15 am
Quoting: art b
only at the bottom....
You will start a new trend. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rice.gif)
Title: I'm a MONDEO MAN, now !!!
Post by: Roadkill on January 05, 2015, 09:50:20 am
I decided to get the old girl (the Mondeo, I mean) a personal gift for Christmas . . . So I made sure I passed 260,000 miles on Christmas eve.
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
She had her (overdue) MoT this morning and passed, with one minor advisory (rear number plate).
She's now taxed for another six months - as that was due, too - so all I can do is keep my fingers crossed a bit longer . . . . !
(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: I'm a MONDEO MAN, now !!!
Post by: Cunning Plan on January 05, 2015, 05:27:14 pm
We want 300k! We want 300k! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/evilgrin.gif)
Title: I'm a MONDEO MAN, now !!!
Post by: Roadkill on January 05, 2015, 05:51:03 pm
So do I, but I don't think the gearbox will hold out that long !!!
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Post by: Roadkill on March 17, 2015, 01:30:56 pm
Mini update . . . She passed the 265,000 mile mark last week and is still as noisy as hell.
If she broke down and died tonight I wouldn't be surprised !
I got another puncture and while putting the spare on stripped one of the wheel nuts (which are fooked, BTW, totally worn-out, probably due to the excessive amount of times the wheels have come off for new brakes/pad/tyres etc . . ) so a new set of wheel nuts are on order before getting the tyre repaired/replaced (it's near the mark).
:rolleyes:
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Post by: Roadkill on March 23, 2015, 05:20:33 pm
Not often your wheel nuts wear out, but after so many miles it can be forgiven, I suppose . . . !
That spring-shaped bit is actually the threaded part of the nut I pealed off the stud !!!
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Post by: Roadkill on June 22, 2015, 10:34:21 am
Well, with tax due at the end of the month, the noise from the front end now almost deafening and a rattling from the back (as well as being only a few miles shy of 270,000) I was ready to sell the old girl but thought I'd give her one more chance.
I had a look over the weekend and discovered that the "noise" had been misdiagnosed before and the fix could be a lot easier (and cheaper) than anticipated.
So I took her to the garage this morning.
The "noise" turns out to be a failed wheel bearing (so really cheap and easy to fix) . . . that said the way it'd failed was "weird, so probably never sounded or felt like a wheel bearing going" (his words, not mine).
Next up was the rattling from the back.
Turns out that both my rear shocks are beyond dead (not surprising considering what I regular put the car through AND the fact that they told me they were knackered about 3 years ago !!!
Although, I said, that wasn't the noise I'd heard from the back . . .
2 minutes of looking and both the main rear-arm bushes have failed (as in collapsed !!). Got money's worth, for sure.
I've also got a rear flexi brake line that's at the point of failure so have left the car with them.
I had a budget of £500 in mind as, basically, if I had to pick up a cheap snotter to get me by that'd be the minimum I'd end up spending . . . . That said, I've told them no more than £400 so should be good . . . . Plus this way there's a chance that the engine will get to 300,000 miles.
:up:
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Post by: art b on June 22, 2015, 10:44:29 am
Like...
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Post by: Cunning Plan on June 22, 2015, 01:14:15 pm
Like..
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Post by: Incursus on June 22, 2015, 07:17:30 pm
Like :up:
P.S. Got notification today that my company car should be available for handover 27th Aug, if you're still interested in mine.
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Post by: Roadkill on June 23, 2015, 08:26:15 am
Should have said that before I spent £364 fixing mine - I'm gunning for 300K, now !
Picked up last night and WOW. Totally different.
Obviously the noise which I thought (and was told) was the gearbox (and so terminal) is now gone . . . Without realising it I crept up to 90+mph on the bypass this morning and even then the car was whisper quiet, smooth and comfortable.
The rear shocks have helped a lot. It definitely feels better now then it did even when I first bought it over 4 years ago.
It handles better, brakes better - everything reacts better and smoother. I'm very happy (especially as my expenses for this month alone covered the repairs) :up:
The garage even topped up my washer fluid. :up: :up:
I'm happy, the Mondy literally feels as good as new . . . The various issues have caused two tyres to become worn un-even so they'll be next on the list (although not urgent).
She's due a service in July so that's next . . . . Once I've finished doing some work in the garden I'll even then get her cleaned !!!!
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Post by: Incursus on June 23, 2015, 08:28:55 am
annual service and roadkill, not words i'd put together .. :lol:
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Post by: Roadkill on July 01, 2015, 12:46:58 pm
I had ulterior motives . . . I'd ran out of my creosote/engine oil mix the night before and needed some to continue on a garden-related project.
If I hadn't have run out of that, I'd have pushed it another month or two. :P
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Post by: art b on July 01, 2015, 04:06:15 pm
like :up:
[wheres our like button...?]
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Post by: Cunning Plan on July 01, 2015, 05:05:53 pm
Sexually Love :up:
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Post by: Roadkill on October 06, 2015, 10:25:38 am
Passed 275,000 miles this morning . . . . Mileage has been quite light recently as I had one project at Heathrow but the other just round the corner in M.K.
Next project is in Crawley (Gatwick) so the mileage will be racking up pretty quick on the run-up to Christmas. :up:
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Post by: Roadkill on December 16, 2015, 09:40:06 am
Passed the 280,000 mark a few days ago.
Replaced 2 tyres due to wear and tear in late November, then got a puncture in another so replaced that last week (the tread was fairly low so didn't bother asking for it to be fixed).
Got some grumbles from the front - I suspect a wheel bearing is on its way out (again) - think I had a dud fitted before. :smirk:
ABS light came on last week . . . the ABS kicks in for the first few braking operations (ABS light off), then the ABS light comes on and the braking returns to "normal" . . . although I'm guessing it wouldn't come on in a full-on emergency stop.
Not keen on letting a garage plug her in to tell me whatever they want to say so have ordered a OBD-2 fault reader off of eBay for £7.95 . . . never realised they were so cheap !
MoT's due in late December so need to get this resolved pretty quick (especially with the bad weather potentially round the corner).
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Post by: art b on December 16, 2015, 11:38:15 am
Impressive.... :clap:
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Post by: Roadkill on December 16, 2015, 04:23:37 pm
I get that a lot . . . .
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Post by: ianjpage on December 16, 2015, 04:57:23 pm
ABS light came on last week . . . the ABS kicks in for the first few braking operations (ABS light off), then the ABS light comes on and the braking returns to "normal" . . . although I'm guessing it wouldn't come on in a full-on emergency stop.
Not keen on letting a garage plug her in to tell me whatever they want to say so have ordered a OBD-2 fault reader off of eBay for £7.95 . . . never realised they were so cheap !
Mine had that, turned out to be a broken wire on one of the rear speed sensors. Think it was a common fault on the Mondeo.
IIRC My cheapie OBD2 Reader didn't pick up on the fault though.. Probably only has the common, cross OEM codes. I had to use some Jag diagnostics software and CANayzer from work to read that one.
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Post by: Titsy on December 16, 2015, 10:51:13 pm
I'd go with what Chris said, it sounds like one of the wheel speed sensors isn't reading speed pulses (probably a poor or corroded connection). This means that when you apply the brake the ABS system thinks that a wheel is locked up and intervenes. If the light only comes on around braking events then that's just the car saying, woh there buddy, I had to step in there to calm it down a bit as the road is wetter than an otter's pocket...
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Post by: Roadkill on December 17, 2015, 12:40:07 pm
Yeah, I'd read about the rear sensors . . . apparently the first thing to do is check the connectors (that are under the rear seat).
The ABS kicks in a few times before the light comes on, once the light is illuminated (it stays on), the brakes work "normally" (I suspect the ABS is actually disabled at this point).
I know what you're saying, though . . . I don't pretend to understand any of the electrical side of how it operates but I do fully understand the mechanical principle. It's either going to be a dodgy connector, failed sensor or broken/separated ABS ring.
If it was warm and sunny, I'd be out there at lunch having a look but it's not, so I'm waiting for the code read to hopefully at least point me to the correct corner !
:P
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Post by: Roadkill on December 21, 2015, 03:32:08 pm
Hmm, hooked the code reader up and it's not showing any codes.
Ideas ???? :pass:
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Post by: Incursus on December 21, 2015, 09:35:04 pm
Visual check of the speed sensors tbh. Unfortunately I no longer have the diagnostic kit I used on mine. :down:
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Post by: Cunning Plan on December 22, 2015, 10:21:30 am
Hmm, hooked the code reader up and it's not showing any codes.
Ideas ???? :pass:
I have always found the cheap OBD readers useless for 'older' cars.
Try the check on the speed sensors as Incursus says, if that does not show anything obvious, then perhaps ask a buddy at a garage to plug it in to a professional reader?
I know someone in Fenny Stratford who will happily do it for beer money if you need them.
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Post by: Roadkill on December 28, 2015, 11:53:55 pm
PM the details, please, my usual place is starting to go south.
Scratch that, just checked with him and the garage owner is getting annoyed with 'private' favours being done, it would have to be booked in through the garage instead, which, will not be beer money. Sorry dude :(
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Post by: Roadkill on January 04, 2016, 04:04:07 pm
Took the Mondeo to Andy's this morning in the end . . . didn't give them any notice, just showed up at 8am and they looked at it almost straight away.
I left it with them but the ABS is now sorted (buggered sensor), another wheel bearing fitted (I think that makes all 4, now), a couple of bulbs and she's all MoT'ed, too.
:up:
All-in £300. :(
A bit more than I wanted to pay, but I can't complain . . .
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Post by: Incursus on January 04, 2016, 09:28:08 pm
Ouch. Least it's sorted though.
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Post by: Roadkill on January 07, 2016, 09:28:30 am
In fairness I could've investigated the ABS issue further myself and probably saved £100 but every chance I got it was pi$$ing down with rain and didn't fancy hunting all four corners of the car for hours in that.
It didn't help that both the MoT and Tax was due at the same time (well planned ABS issue, well planned) !
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Post by: Roadkill on January 08, 2016, 03:45:38 pm
She got treated to a £10 clean today (first one in well over a year) !!
All nice and shiny but it does highlight the scratches and marks caused by hard labour. :(
Still, the plan is to get to 300,000 miles, no less, now. Onward !!!!!
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Post by: ianjpage on January 08, 2016, 03:49:16 pm
what's she on now then??
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Post by: Roadkill on January 12, 2016, 12:11:13 pm
281,000 . . . she had a good break over Christmas as we mainly used Sammy's bus when we went out anywhere.
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Post by: Roadkill on May 10, 2016, 02:52:53 pm
288,000 miles but she's got issues.
Got a clunking from the back . . sounded like a cracked spring but checked and can't see anything . . . not too fussed - it's just a bit irritating.
Worse, though, is an overall loss of power (I'd guess around 10-15%) and she's going into limp mode when pulling hard (up hill or over-taking from "lower speeds" in 6th gear).
From what I've read, it's sounding like sticking vanes inside the turbo . . . this can be due to gunk build-up (likely as I drive it like a granddad) or due to it being worn out (also likely owing to the mileage).
I get a bonus from work on payday so a replacement car is feasible but I'd ear-marked that money for cool stuff . . . not a replacement daily. :can:
Will need to investigate . . . . :chiny:
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Post by: Incursus on May 11, 2016, 11:47:43 am
Time for that pickup truck then. :up:
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Post by: Roadkill on May 12, 2016, 10:14:02 am
Tempting. It really is but I've ear-marked my bonus money for the Cadillac's carburetors plus I'm now hell-bent that I want to get 300,000 miles out of the Mondeo !!!! :rofl:
O.K, so on Tuesday night I started randomly taking bits off around the turbo . . . got about 45 mins in when I realised the turbo is cast into the exhaust manifold meaning the whole thing has to come off and that, in order to get that massive lump out, a whole load of other stuff needs to be removed to make way . . . . .
F-U-C-K T-H-A-T, thought I. She'll go to the scrap yard before I do all that.
I reckoned I could split the turbo in situ (what did I have to lose ?) so pushed on.
Long story (very long story) short, yes, it's possible to do this and yes, it's quicker, it's an utter ball ache to say the least.
I cracked open the turbo expecting to find gunk galore on the "actuator ring" (that's my name for it) which drives the 11 "variable vane thingy-me-bobs" (again, my name for them).
But no.
No gunk. Worse, probably . . . it was dry and sooty in there and the ring (when operated by hand) was stiff and difficult to turn.
At least there's an obvious issue, so I pumped the fekker full of WD40 to shift the soot. Also cleaned the exhaust side of the "whirrly bit" (my name for it).
Unfortunately the "actuator ring", once lubricated is prone to dropping out and taking with it the 3 "tiny little cotton-reel roller-bearing wotsits" (my name) . . . These wotsits space the ring away from the face of the casting correctly so are fairly critical. :)
I lost one, then found it, then lost another while re-assembling (and found it again).
In the end I used bearing grease to effectively stick them in place while I reassembled it. The theory worked and I got it all back together and started her up without any immediate codes, flashing warning lights or explosions.
The cost :
The "outlay" was pennies in WD40, a washer from stock to replace one I lost and about 3 hours time.
The verdict :
A definite improvement in low-speed response, better overall response and generally an increase in power - that said it's not as good as it was a year ago (but I must remember her age and mileage).
I purposely tested her in high load conditions, changing into 6th gear at 40mph and stamping on the accelerator . . . . she fought for about 5 seconds before going into limp-mode (fair enough, as it was a unlikely demand). I then did a much more likely test, changing into 6th at 50mph and applying about 75% throttle. This time she managed it without issue.
I put 250 miles on her yesterday without incident.
I don't think this has cured the problem (clearly the turbo is very worn) but it's certainly improved the situation . . . . whether it's improved it enough to get me another 12,000 I can't say.
No photos as it was utterly p!ssing down with rain Tuesday night and I was just concentrating on getting it done. :tongue:
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Post by: Roadkill on June 16, 2016, 10:17:48 am
The saga continues !!!!
The issue with the turbo hasn't gone away . . .
It did get better, but has slowly returned. I can normally prevent it from going into limp mode by changing how I accelerate under load but it's a PITA for sure. I've got about 6 months left MoT so was planning to push it to the end of the year (this should get me to 300,000 miles, too) but I don't know . . .
Late last week the high pressure hose on the power steering failed, ejaculating P/S fluid everywhere (!!!). Thankfully it happened at the office so I only had to drive it 16 miles home without P/S. I ordered a second hand pipe of eBay (£10 + £3 P&P), finished fitting it last night (about 90 minutes off-and-on) and filled it up. Seems O.K, it's noisy at full lock but it's still working air out (plus the pump was running dry for nearly an hour).
Meh. :pass:
I did spend a few minutes last night wiping over the engine / covers as the P/S fluid covered everything !
The tax is out at the end of this month so the plan is to see how she's behaving for the next week after which she'll either be sold/part-ex'd or kept (depending how the week goes !!!)
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Post by: Roadkill on June 30, 2016, 10:09:52 am
Oddly enough, since putting her back together and re-fitting the battery (I had to remove it while I did the P/S hose) she's behaved much better ?? ??
:pass:
She's only gone into "limp mode" once since - that's two weeks whereas it was happening nearly every day (sometimes twice a day !) before.
:chiny:
Dunno, don't care.
She passed 290,000 yesterday so I'm determined to reach the big 3-0-0-0-0-0 now !!!
Onward !!!!!!!!
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Post by: Roadkill on July 12, 2016, 12:10:03 pm
As it just seems to be me posting on here now, I'll continue entertaining myself . . . . :can:
After going nearly 2 weeks with only one "Limp mode" occurrence, I re-taxed her this month til the end of the year.
Since then she's gone into limp mode almost daily - sometimes up to 3 times a day !!! :rtfm:
F**king typical.
Still, I'm pushing on.
In a bizarre side-effect - I'm guessing caused by the even gentler way I'm driving her now - this happened :
Even if you take it with a generous pinch of salt, that's still pretty f*cking amazing for the old girl.
She's sitting at 291K today, with around 1000 miles scheduled for next week alone - wish us luck !!!
:grenade:
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Post by: ianjpage on July 12, 2016, 04:48:08 pm
Wow surprised it still going! Fingers crossed the milestone of 300k is reached
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Post by: Roadkill on September 02, 2016, 08:15:04 am
295,000 + miles . . . . and 70+ MPG !!!
:sofa: :up:
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Post by: Titsy on September 05, 2016, 11:46:24 am
:up:
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Post by: Roadkill on September 12, 2016, 04:51:08 pm
296,000 + Miles . . .
The plan is to keep her to 300k then put what's left on eBay . . .
As a pick-up truck is still a little out of my price range at the moment, I've lined up two potential replacements . . . . Both practical (2.0L turbo-diesels) but both a *little* interesting in their own separate ways . . .
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Post by: Roadkill on September 23, 2016, 08:30:00 am
297,000 + . . .
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Post by: ianjpage on September 23, 2016, 08:11:49 pm
so close to 300k!!! fingers crossed it get's there!
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Post by: Roadkill on October 05, 2016, 08:55:32 pm
298,000+ .....
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Post by: Roadkill on October 17, 2016, 10:14:04 am
299,000+
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Post by: Incursus on October 19, 2016, 06:30:03 am
So close! How many of those miles are yours again?
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Post by: Roadkill on October 20, 2016, 09:52:32 pm
About 129,000
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Post by: Roadkill on October 27, 2016, 04:37:08 pm