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Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Roadkill on March 14, 2013, 05:31:40 pm: Was originally set to put Outlaw I's on the Camaro but am thinking that Outlaw II's probably promote slightly better brake cooling (maybe ?) and are possibly fractionally lighter (holes).

Outlaw I's :

(http://pptac.http.internapcdn.net/pptac/imagesProducts2/13090.jpg)

(http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr274/stahrman0612/018-1.jpg)

Outlaw II's :

(http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/645/349/39110174018_large.jpg)

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/alhasse/92%20RS/P1000548.jpg)

Dunno. Both are the same price, both are in the sizes I want and with the same offsets . . . .

I think my gut still prefers the plainness of the Outlaw I's . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)

What ya think ?
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Incursus on March 14, 2013, 06:52:16 pm: Outlaws I's ...but then I would say that (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: ianjpage on March 14, 2013, 08:01:48 pm: i'd say outlaw 2's as they not a solid slab of shiny wheel against the matt black, they have breaks (the holes) and i think it'd look better that way....

be interesting to try and do a photochop of a side pic of the maro and put the wheels on it to see what it'd look like
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Cunning Plan on March 14, 2013, 08:29:29 pm: I think Outlaw II, OL I look good, but I don't think they will allow your brakes to cool quickly, especially in the summer. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Amey on March 14, 2013, 09:32:01 pm: I'd say Outlaw 2's. One of the issues with the ol1's is when they lose the shine they don't look as good (I do miss this car though (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)) :

(http://www.yanksrule.co.uk/cars/3rdgenmaro/March%202005/Vickys%20IROC%20007.JPG)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Titsy on March 14, 2013, 10:25:20 pm: 1's will be easier to keep clean as you brake dust won't seep through, but I think I prefer the 2's...
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: FUBAR on March 15, 2013, 12:54:30 am: PhilO had Chromed II's on his Camaro didn't he?

I'd go with II's but Lacquered not chromed. Steve makes a good point, but they are fairly easy wheels to clean at the end of the day as they're not too intricate.

Also any cooling help you can give stock brakes on a 3rd gen is a bonus, no matter how small.
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: F Body on March 15, 2013, 08:01:02 am: If it it has to been Outlaws No.2 looks better.

Do you really want something that shiney with a matt black car (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Titsy on March 15, 2013, 10:19:20 am: Quoting: F Body
Do you really want something that shiney with a matt black car

It's Satin... (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Andy on March 15, 2013, 11:37:11 am: They both look really good, prefer the first one as they kinda look like Centerlines, but then like the way the 2nd ones look on the rear.

What if you went with Outlaw 1's on the front and Outlaw 2's on the rear? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Rob on March 15, 2013, 12:22:28 pm: Quoting: Incursus
Outlaws I's

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Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Amey on March 15, 2013, 12:50:14 pm: Quoting: FUBAR
PhilO had Chromed II's on his Camaro didn't he?

Yeap
(http://www.mkb.cc/gallery/albums/MKB%20At%20AACI%20All%20Clubs%202005/DSC06834.JPG)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Titsy on March 15, 2013, 01:54:43 pm: They look polished rather than chromed...
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Jo on March 15, 2013, 03:50:21 pm: I Like OutLaw I's they look good
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: F Body on March 15, 2013, 04:36:25 pm: I can't persuade you that less is more (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg256/scaled.php?server=256&filename=camaro007.jpg&res=landing)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Andy on March 15, 2013, 07:08:38 pm: What are those?! I love them! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Big Mouse on March 15, 2013, 07:08:58 pm: outlaw 1's for me
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: F Body on March 15, 2013, 07:15:24 pm: Quoting: Andy
What are those?! I love them!

Classic Torque Thrust Wheels (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Andy on March 15, 2013, 07:46:09 pm: They look like they have far more dish?
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Roadkill on March 15, 2013, 10:15:50 pm: Quoting: F Body
Classic Torque Thrust Wheels

No, they're not. They look more like A.R.E Antracite's.

Rare and more than two-and-a-half times the price at £250 per wheel.

Or possibly Rocket's . . ?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Maybe on your Camaro, Martyn, but not mine.

Quoting: FUBAR
PhilO had Chromed II's on his Camaro didn't he?

No, you can't get those one's in chrome.

As Titsy said - there polished rims with a fine-cut (like a record) face.
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Roadkill on March 15, 2013, 10:20:04 pm: Quoting: Big Mouse
outlaw 1's

Quoting: Jo
OutLaw I's

Quoting: Rob
Outlaws I's

Quoting: F Body
Outlaws No.2

Quoting: FUBAR
I'd go with II's

Quoting: Titsy
I think I prefer the 2's

Quoting: Amey
Outlaw 2

Quoting: Cunning Plan
Outlaw II

Quoting: ianjpage
outlaw 2's

Quoting: Incursus
Outlaws I's

Hmm.

4 for Outlaw I's and
6 for Outlaw II's.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

Think I'm gonna need to do some photoshopping !!
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Roadkill on March 15, 2013, 11:04:40 pm: Here's another Satin Black car with Outlaw I's . . . (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/Duster_%2850%29.jpg)

(http://www.mkb.cc/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/Duster_%2849%29.jpg)

I think I'm still leaning towards the I's . . . . even though II's would be more sensible . . .
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Jo on March 16, 2013, 08:18:33 am: Still the I's, they just look the nuts.
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: F Body on March 16, 2013, 05:22:35 pm: Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: F Body
Classic Torque Thrust Wheels

No, they're not. They look more like A.R.E Antracite's.

True they are similar to Torque Thrust wheels (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Quoting: Roadkill
Maybe on your Camaro, Martyn, but not mine.

Violate the F Body.......Never (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rtfm.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Big Mouse on March 16, 2013, 05:42:56 pm: Quote from: Roadkill
Here's another Satin Black car with Outlaw I's . . .

Sod the outlaws, just give me that!!!(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Cunning Plan on March 16, 2013, 07:26:07 pm: Quoting: Big Mouse
Sod the outlaws, just give me that!!!

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/plusone.gif)

Who's is that? It is a Chevy Nova right? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)

It is now my wallpaper (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/security.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Titsy on March 16, 2013, 11:28:19 pm: That was Chris's Plymouth Duster, before he put it in a ditch and found it had tin worm...
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Cunning Plan on March 17, 2013, 10:16:29 am: Quoting: Titsy
That was Chris's Plymouth Duster

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/sad.gif)

Quoting: Cunning Plan
Chevy Nova right?

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/stupid.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Andy on March 17, 2013, 10:33:20 am: (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/Akmel/8th%20May%20Rockingham/IMG_0790.jpg)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Cunning Plan on March 17, 2013, 11:41:24 am: That is super nice! (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/jerkoff.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Cunning Plan on March 17, 2013, 11:41:54 am: What engine was it? What year? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Andy on March 17, 2013, 02:44:08 pm: Quoting: Cunning Plan
That is super nice!

That day if I remember correctly, it decided to turn vegetarian. Also have a 'before' shot of RK Z28.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/Akmel/8th%20May%20Rockingham/IMG_0785.jpg)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: F Body on March 17, 2013, 03:31:53 pm: Quoting: Andy
Also have a 'before' shot of RK Z28.

The 3rd Gen has aged very well (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Is that at Rockingham (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Andy on March 17, 2013, 04:51:45 pm: Is indeed, AMVO stand that got me a 'strongly worded email' from a former president of the AACI when I posted the photos on their forum.

I think there are a few cars from the club on there.
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Incursus on March 17, 2013, 05:25:28 pm: Quoting: Cunning Plan
What engine was it? What year?

1972 with a 318ci
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Roadkill on March 17, 2013, 08:06:00 pm: I was looking back at all the work I put into that Duster ... I'd kill to have that level of free time now.

I'm still proud of the work I did on that car .... and the tin worm was no surprise. All Mopars suffer in the same places .... I remember screwing the inner and outer rear quarters together with screws and nuts before fibre glassing it up as it had to be done on a budget.

Happy days.

Rattle can 4 teh win !!!11
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Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Andy on March 17, 2013, 08:17:55 pm: Is there a build thread around for that anywhere?
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Roadkill on March 17, 2013, 10:46:55 pm: I don't think so - I think it was a bit before the MKB became independent so we were limited by the AACI.

There are a few pictures on the gallery - not all but a selection.

It was a cool car. But I would say that. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Incursus on March 18, 2013, 08:07:17 am: Quoting: Roadkill
I was looking back at all the work I put into that Duster ... I'd kill to have that level of free time now.

Indeed, just finding an hour to turn the Mustang over (not literally(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif) ) once a week is a challenge let alone a project like that.

Quoting: Roadkill
I remember screwing the inner and outer rear quarters together with screws and nuts before fibre glassing it up as it had to be done on a budget.

Held together better than the "welding" job a previous owner did on the inner wings (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif)

Quoting: Andy
Is there a build thread around for that anywhere?

I did start a Geocities(?) website many years ago (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Roadkill on March 18, 2013, 11:01:23 am: I reckon you should post up a "post-build" build thread.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)

I regret not having the shell off you, now. But it was probably the right choice.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/can.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Incursus on March 18, 2013, 11:39:12 am: Quoting: Roadkill
I reckon you should post up a "post-build" build thread

TaaDaa!!

http://www.mkb.cc/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=32

Well pics anyway, the order's looks a bit jumbled though.
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Roadkill on March 18, 2013, 04:57:21 pm: Hahaha, I remember all the "deletes" now . . . . Delete door handles, delete door locks, delete truck lock, delete fuel filler, delete front and rear side markers, delete badges . . . . .

Adding the scoops was my single favourite bit. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)

Remember the test scoop I did out of cardboard ? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Roadkill on March 18, 2013, 05:59:17 pm: (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif) (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/rofls.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/normal_Duster_%2819%29.jpg)

(http://www.mkb.cc/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/normal_Duster_%2820%29.jpg)

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/shame.gif)

(http://www.mkb.cc/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/normal_Duster.jpg)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Incursus on March 19, 2013, 08:15:00 am: Quoting: Roadkill
Remember the test scoop I did out of cardboard ?

yup...pretty sure there is a pic somewhere. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/chiny.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Motorama on March 19, 2013, 07:14:47 pm: I guess its a certain look you are after but the Outlaw style wheel is probably my least favourite of all styles, except maybe white 8 spoke Wellers, lol. I think it looks/will look better with the Torq Thrusts. IMO

If you do buy the Outlaws or anything else for that matter i am still interested in the TTs
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Fieldy on March 20, 2013, 04:26:36 pm: Outlaw I ..... For sure.....
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Roadkill on March 21, 2013, 05:32:41 pm: And the winner was . . . . . .

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/Roadkill-Auto/IMAG2223_zps29c17215.jpg)

The Outlaw II's just looked a little too busy for me . . . .

Note also the new black alloy wheel nuts (should be rust proof) - I think they add a little something to the whole look.

(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/wink.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Titsy on March 21, 2013, 05:35:51 pm: Very Mad Max (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Motorama on March 21, 2013, 10:23:46 pm: I was also going to say very Mad Max, it looks good.
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: art b on March 21, 2013, 10:57:11 pm: (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: F Body on March 22, 2013, 12:34:56 pm: Gotta say that I'm pleasantly surprised (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)

Still worried about the alloy door panels and no heater (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cold.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: FUBAR on March 22, 2013, 12:47:19 pm: (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cool.gif)
Quoting: Titsy
Very Mad Max

That is exactly what I was going to say! Very
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: ianjpage on March 22, 2013, 04:07:00 pm: That looks good - even with white lettering outwards (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Incursus on March 22, 2013, 09:24:33 pm: I think I would keep the white lettering..(http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/dontknow.gif)
Breaks up the black.
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Roadkill on March 22, 2013, 10:00:24 pm: Yep, that's the plan.

Wasn't 100% sure until I got them back on the car but as soon as I saw I knew.

I'm happy. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/up.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Andy on March 23, 2013, 08:13:22 am: See, white lettering does look cool on post 1970's cars (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/tongue.gif)

In all seriousness, looks flipping great! Really nice finish, wheels suit it.

Are they protected with a surface treatment or will you have to keep them polished?
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Cunning Plan on March 23, 2013, 01:19:48 pm: Very, very nice. Amazing work and skill RK (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/party.gif)

I think the white-letters look perfect on that setup. (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/cowboy.gif)

So is it all done now minus the door-cards? (http://www.mkb.cc/forum/smileys/huh.gif)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: ianjpage on March 23, 2013, 05:06:45 pm: @cp - almost the list of things i can think of are:
door cards
steering
exhaust (supports / bracketry)

then the snagging ;)
Title: Outlaw I's or Outlaw II's ????
Post by: Roadkill on March 24, 2013, 06:25:21 pm: Yeah, basically what Ian said.

I still don't agree that post 70's cars work with white lettered tyres.

I personally think they work on mine but wouldn't necessarily on a standard third gen.