picked up a new, old mig welder ....

[art b]

got this yesterday ....

murex 200 amp ,single phase,

it dident  look very big on ebag....

but its 26inches tall....


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[Titsy]

[art b]

it can only improve my welding ..

gave it a clean up ...it came with a roll of wire ..

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there are alot of gubbins indide ...



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[Cunning Plan]

Looks usable!  

Does a 2-phase and 3-phase welder plug into 240 mains as well or are they hard wired?

[art b]

you can use some 3phase as single phase, on a 13amp plug,

but for the higher settings they will pull 15 amps plus..

i suspect mine can be 3 phase...

[Roadkill]

So.

Whatcha making ?  

[Cunning Plan]

Quoting: art b

you can use some 3phase as single phase, on a 13amp plug,

but for the higher settings they will pull 15 amps plus..

If you did want to run a 3-phase welder as a 3-phase, how is it done?

What I mean is, is there a different connection like the 110V mains connectors?

Quoting: Roadkill

Whatcha making ?

Finishing that bus so I can have a ride hopefully

[art b]

Quoting: Roadkill

So.

Whatcha making ?

vw welding..

Quoting: Cunning Plan

If you did want to run a 3-phase welder as a 3-phase, how is it done?  

What I mean is, is there a different connection like the 110V mains connectors?  

you connect it to 3 phases...
or as a single you use 1 phase and a neutral...

[Titsy]

Three phase connector (but then you have to have a three phase supply and you only really get that on commercial premises...:

[Cunning Plan]

Quoting: Titsy

Three phase connector (but then you have to have a three phase supply and you only really get that on commercial premises...:

Quoting: art b

you connect it to 3 phases...
or as a single you use 1 phase and a neutral...

Aha, that's what I was wondering!


Next question, why are there 5 connections? I would have thought it would be 4: 1 for each phase and 1 neutral

[art b]

One per phase
One neutral
One earth...

Although you don't always need a neutral with some three phase equipment..

[Cunning Plan]

Quoting: art b

One per phase
One neutral
One earth.

Ah, okay.

Quoting: art b

vw welding

Does that mean we can have an update on your Bus project thread then?

[art b]

Quoting: Cunning Plan

Does that mean we can have an update on your Bus project thread then?  

done ..

[Titsy]

[art b]

[art b]

i have bought a bottle of argon gas mix  

5000L of gas for £33

it will give around 8 hrs of welding time...

may be having a go this weekend ...

[Jamieg285]

Quoting: art b

5000L of gas for £33

Where do you store it:

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[Cunning Plan]

Quoting: Jamieg285

Where do you store it:

[art b]

Quoting: Jamieg285

Where do you store it:

as its stored at 230 bar

5m3  fits into a boc Y bottle

[Roadkill]

Quoting: art b

5m3 fits into a boc Y bottle

Ah, but that's not technically 5000 litres.  

[art b]

Quoting: Roadkill

Quoting: art b
5m3 fits into a boc Y bottle


Ah, but that's not technically 5000 litres.  

well im led to believe a room that is 5.2 m3 ...will have 5000 l of air in it

[Cunning Plan]

Quoting: Roadkill

Ah, but that's not technically 5000 litres.  

Quoting: art b

well im led to believe a room that is 5.2 m3 ...will have 5000 l of air in it

RK, it's your turn now...........

[Jamieg285]

I need a refund then, as my bottles only got 20lt in it

[Roadkill]

Gas may occupy 5,000 litres of volume when released into the atmosphere, but clearly, under pressure, it's not 5,000 litres as it's in liquid form so is a fraction of that.

It's like saying that a full kettle holds 3,000 litres of steam . . . technically it does but there's other factors involved.

[art b]

Quoting: Roadkill

Gas may occupy 5,000 litres of volume when released into the atmosphere, but clearly, under pressure, it's not 5,000 litres as it's in liquid form so is a fraction of that.

so it is 5000 L of gas ..