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Titsy

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« on: July 01, 2006, 11:39:14 pm »
Well after hearing Graeme's tail of woe of loosing 3rd and reverse gear, it seems tha my, (now Vicky's) Camaro as come out in sympathy....

BTW, to explain why it is now Vicky's; she proclaimed that if I broke anything else on the car (not that I did, I did it to itself...) then she was going to confiscate it from me.... :sad

Anyways, long an short of it is, 3rd gear is no more.... Every time is changes from 2nd to 3rd I loose drive! and the engine just revs.... I don't know if 4th is ok because it never gets there, it can't accelerate past the speed threshold to get there so I havn't a clue....

I had to limp home with it stuck in 2nd, because if I left it in drive, every time I let of the throttle the skipship trys to go into 3rd.......

Any ideas what to do guys??? Anyone heard of this before???

I'm dreading that I might have to pull the engine and trans...



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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2006, 11:59:10 pm »

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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2006, 06:07:31 am »
OK, Checked the fluid this morning having not run the car, so would have been cold, and with the car on a level driveway..... Here are some pics:

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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2006, 07:57:40 am »
your supppose to test trans fluid with the car at running temp' in neutral.
Cold and not running thats what it will show!

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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2006, 08:02:00 am »
K...... will run it when I get home and see....

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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2006, 08:31:05 am »
not wanting to be the bringer of doom, but it sounds like either the clutchpackor brake band between second and third gear has burned out, causing a 'flare' between gears.. (most likely the clutchpack)

you might be lucky, and it could be something else, but its unlikely...

very odd at that kind of milage though........... the 4L60E is normaly good for at least 120,000 miles, and often can go on to double that, even my 700R4 (basicly the same box without the electronic controls) is perfect at 138,000 - and they are known for giving up earlier then the 4L60E

the classic first symptom of low fluid is a reluctance to go into either drive or reverse, or droppping in to neutral then back into drive when coming to a standstill...

try checking the fluid (as steve sugested) with the following method,

get the engine and gearbox up to operating temp (not gonna be fun with 2 gears)

starting in park, engage every gear in turn (including nutral and the gear holds) 3 times, then with the engine still running, in either park or neutral, check the fluid level..

also have a good sniff of the fluid - if it smells strong and pungent, its bad news.

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2006, 10:47:10 am »
LOL vicky got a new car then heheheh!!!

sorry to hear not all is well mate, lets hope it aint too costly too fix!

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2006, 10:49:55 am »
Quoting: Titsy
BTW, to explain why it is now Vicky's; she proclaimed that if I broke anything else on the car (not that I did, I did it to itself...) then she was going to confiscate it from me


I think I might let you off this once.  I do agree that this, probably, wasn't your fault.

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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2006, 11:32:18 am »
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I think I might let you off this once. I do agree that this, probably, wasn't your fault.


You just don't want to claim a car you can't drive...... I bet your waiting till it's in better health so you can claim a runner....

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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2006, 12:13:59 pm »
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You just don't want to claim a car you can't drive...... I bet your waiting till it's in better health so you can claim a runner....


- got found out  

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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2006, 01:31:57 pm »
Quoting: philoldsmobile
try checking the fluid (as steve sugested)



Cool, did I change my name???

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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2006, 02:48:53 pm »
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Cool, did I change my name???


Everyone gets a nickname here, Mate.

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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2006, 09:18:26 pm »
PMSLOL

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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2006, 08:02:46 am »
Without wishing to seem too mercenary, I , uh hum, have a spare 4L60e going begging in my store having suffered from exactly the same trauma as yours.

Had Penn Autos fit new overrun clutch plates, overhaul kit, bush kit, 2/4th kevlar bands plus modified the servo and 3/4 clutch kit to make it a bit tougher - hasn't been used since the rebuild.

Cheaper than a rebuild

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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2006, 08:04:33 am »
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Without wishing to seem too mercenary, I , uh hum, have a spare 4L60e going begging in my store having suffered from exactly the same trauma as yours.

Had Penn Autos fit new overrun clutch plates, overhaul kit, bush kit, 2/4th kevlar bands plus modified the servo and 3/4 clutch kit to make it a bit tougher - hasn't been used since the rebuild.



Yeah i was supposed to ask you about that if you were at the meet on sunday

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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2006, 11:18:34 am »
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have a spare 4L60e going begging in my store




How much would you want to sting me for Ray?

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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2006, 11:18:40 am »
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Yeah i was supposed to ask you about that if you were at the meet on sunday

Didn't know there was a meet on Sunday?

The box is sitting in the store, if you want a look at it let me know

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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2006, 11:19:59 am »
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Didn't know there was a meet on Sunday?


Every first Sunday, Mate, from 3 (ish) - All year round.

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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2006, 11:20:44 am »
Quoting: Big Mouse
Didn't know there was a meet on Sunday?


Every 1st Sunday of the month.

Looks like Graeme's right, we do need an email reminder being sent out.

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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2006, 11:21:26 am »
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The box is sitting in the store, if you want a look at it let me know


Is it ready to use?

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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2006, 11:23:06 am »
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Looks like Graeme's right


im always right

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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2006, 11:25:01 am »
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im always right


Except when you're wrong, of course  

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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2006, 11:28:00 am »

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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2006, 11:35:15 am »
well looks like its the transmision on the chavscort and not the linkage they have managed to get reverse working though

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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2006, 11:39:36 am »
At least you can park now then.....

The "you drive a big American boat" guys have come up with an apt description of my symptoms.... Apparently, full astern is fine, but the engine room is reporting that it can only manage ahead half........