Author Topic: the dart so far (Read 9506 times)

art b · « **on:** October 29, 2007, 07:02:01 pm »

ive done all the metal work repairs and primed it all, flatted all the paint down,with scotch pads, not sure how much more to do, sealer coat,prime it all,.......

philoldsmobile · « **Reply #1 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:03:44 pm »

eatch them greasy roundabouts in that!!

looking good dude..

art b · « **Reply #2 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:24:22 pm »

temp wheels btw.....

Rocky · « **Reply #3 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:31:37 pm »

You keeping it green? work looks good

art b · « **Reply #4 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:35:40 pm »

yep i think green it is ,was considering orange, fitted new trunk extentions,smoothed all around the doors, and every join in the steelwork has been stripped bare,treated and primed,
will need to see wot else my sprayer thinks need doing, b4 he gets it,

Rocky · « **Reply #5 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:38:27 pm »

If the greens good you can use it as a base coat, but i would non-sand the whole car TBH just incase.

art b · « **Reply #6 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:43:21 pm »

Quoting: Rocky

non-sand

technical term....?
there are a few fish eyes left in the paint, would it need a filler primer, could i do it....?
ive sprayed panels b4....

Rocky · « **Reply #7 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:46:57 pm »

Non-sand is a thinner coat,if you want to get out all the imperfections you need to do a high build coat (filler primer) then cut it back. Primer is easy to paint as it doesnt really matter if you make a mistake.

art b · « **Reply #8 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:52:58 pm »

im getting more tempted each week,

would like a good finish assured b4 the paint goes on,

which high build,and what spray gun ive got a cheap un and compresser.

55starchief · « **Reply #9 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:54:56 pm »

hey art have a look at this site www.paintwithpearl.com some of the guys i know in the US have been using this stuff and had real good results

art b · « **Reply #10 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:58:12 pm »

will look over there,
i dont mind a bit of prep work but will leave the finiish to an expert,

doors/trunk, on or off for painting, i figure off

55starchief · « **Reply #11 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:59:52 pm »

All depends mate, if your going with a solid color either but if your going pearl/candy/mica/metalic i would leave them on

Rocky · « **Reply #12 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:02:13 pm »

Dont need a good gun for primer but i would recommend a gravity gun for thicker application, as for paint you get what you pay for, you can use upol high build primer which is cheaper and a good primer, but if you want a lasting finish i would use standox more expensive but you wont get the shrinkage over time. the best paint i have used is house of colour it paints much better and isnt alot more expensive and lasts. Only drawback is they dont do standard car colours

55starchief · « **Reply #13 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:05:56 pm »

Rocky check out the paint with pearl a guy i know in the usa told me about it and he has been a custom painter for over 20 years, he switched because of the price of HOK there is also SEM who do concentrates that are equaly as good

Titsy · « **Reply #14 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:09:51 pm »

A Candy Green Colour would be

Rocky · « **Reply #15 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:10:09 pm »

Yeah saw some at pomona looks ok, Think its a matter of trying it, i get HOK quite cheap so not too fussed but always good to have more options. Everything in UK is moving to water based or solvent free so getting good paints from here or Germany is becoming a pain. Got myself a new gun while i was out there half the price so cant wait to start using it.

55starchief · « **Reply #16 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:13:47 pm »

Yeah i know what you mean about waterbased, my mates shop is all water based now. I am going to order some of the paint with pearl and use it in the water based binder instead of intercoat clear. I know standox have some pretty cool water based custom colors now as i have the data sheet at work. Hope to buy my first gun in the next couple of months going for a devilbis gti pro

http://www.devilbisseu.com/news.aspx?id=24

Rocky · « **Reply #17 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:22:47 pm »

Quoting: 55starchief

Hope to buy my first gun in the next couple of months going for a devilbis gti pro

Always used devilbiss but have been switching to Iwata both great guns cant go wrong with them,i got mine just for clearcoating as i had it modified so i have around a 15" fan on it

Going to sell alot of mine as i have too many now trouble is i have a few binks guns from the 70's that are still better than alot of modern ones.

art b · « **Reply #18 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:23:11 pm »

i lookin at the solid green a bit more traditional....

so is water based so bad

i assume its a pain to dry...

do manafacturers use it...?

Rocky · « **Reply #19 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:26:20 pm »

Its been on Yanks for years, its not hard to paint but you really need air dryers or leave it longer to dry,its also way more expensive.

55starchief · « **Reply #20 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:27:12 pm »

Quoting: art b

so is water based so bad i assume its a pain to dry...

do manafacturers use it...?

waterbased isnt that difficult, it still has a solvent clear though. You might want to look for a high solid thats what i painted the BBQ with and coverage was amazing.

Quoting: Rocky

Always used devilbiss but have been switching to Iwata both great guns cant go wrong with them

Its going to be a toss up between the devilbiss or a sata but i must admit i like the feel of the devilbiss but they aint cheap, MK paint quoted me £270 each as the gti pro are different for base and clear

Rocky · « **Reply #21 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:30:33 pm »

Not bad for a good gun mine was £525 here got it for around £250 with the dollar against the pound, brought it back in case

55starchief · « **Reply #22 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:30:33 pm »

these are the standox water based custom finishes

http://www.standox.co.uk/portal/en?page=2.3.1_Colour_Detail&category=special&catid=77105971091053277105110116

http://www.standox.co.uk/portal/en?page=2.3.1_Colour_Detail&category=special&catid=82101100328211199107101116

Rocky · « **Reply #23 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:36:23 pm »

Think they are the same as HOK have you got prices for them as most were £300 odd a litre.

55starchief · « **Reply #24 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:38:28 pm »

I havnt got prices on the waterbased but i can remember paying £275 a liter for the daytona paradise when i had a tube frame buggy painted about 8 years ago hmm still have .5 liter of that left at my mates shop be ideal for a bike